Mod this up! He brings up some VERY valid points that most idiots^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople don't even think about when they advocate laws that erode our rights.
Question: I keep seeing references to https. I thought that was only used when a site needed you to transmit information; but, I'm seeing allusions to being able to use it for general web-browsing.
Is this the case - can it be used for everyday web-browsing? And if so, where can I find information on doing this?
Why not? What's the difference between a cease & desist letter going to/dev/null before you ever see it, and a subpeona not being handed directly to you? None at all. The court can't punish you for not ceasing and desisting if you didn't know that you were being asked to.
Judge: "What measures did you take to ensure that the defendant would receive your request?"
Plaintiff: "We emailed him a cease & desist letter."
Judge: "And what proof do you have that he actually received it?"
Ignoring cease and desist letters will often result in a complaint being filed, at which point you are in litigation
How can a corporation prove that you ever receved the email in the first place? What if I have a filter that sends all emails to/dev/null unless the originating address is allowed to reach my inbox? In such a circumstance, I would never receive their cease & desist letters. There isn't a damn thing they (the corporation) could do about it either, because it is my right to filter my email as I choose. Even if no such filter existed, how could they [the Evil Corporation] prove that I received the email?
Suppose I registered a domain for the sole purpose of using it for email, and have no website for it at all. Or as an IRC server. or as a BBS. Or maybe I haven't decided on a use for it yet; however, I registered it out of good faith.
Then a year later, Big Corporation comes in and decides that somehow Im infringing on their trademark. Does the lack of a website validate Big Corp's attempt at theft? I think not - the lack of a website does not give any support to attempted theft. Domains DO have more uses than just websites.
Okay, I've been reading the comments, and I keep seeing your posts which say exactly the same thing. To make things worse, so far, every single one has been "(Score:3, Interesting)" or "(Score:3, Informative)". Some moderator must be smoking crack, because your posts are becoming redundant - you don't need to beat us upside the head with your link.
flame-bait me, or whatever you will - Im just sick of these "linux virus research" replies.
-- Sygnus (who will be looking for these to show up in Meta-Moderation)
If Mattel succeeds in getting the logfiles, what do they plan to do with them? If they think they're going to be able to take any action against people who download source code, they're going to get bit - and hard. As has been stated in the DeCSS case, source code is not (yet) illegal, and any legal action against people for possessing such code would be illegal.
I don't see why these companies see the need to keep their lists encrypted anyway. Consumers should have the right to see exactly *what* the software they purchase is blocking. One possibility could be to set up a search engine that searches through the list so parents can see what comes up when they search for, say, 'breast'. That would allow parents to make a more informed decision about the blocking software.
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Let's test this:
2 3 5 7 11 13 17
(2*3)+1=7
(3*5)+1=16
(5*7)+1=36
(7*11)+1=78
(11*13)+1=144
(13*17)+1=222
This doesn't seem to hold up very well.
2000-07-24 16:13:10 Stephen King Releases New E-Novel (articles,news) (rejected)
*and* I linked to the king site instead of the *.pdf
'nuff said
Mod this up! He brings up some VERY valid points that most idiots^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople don't even think about when they advocate laws that erode our rights.
Is this the case - can it be used for everyday web-browsing? And if so, where can I find information on doing this?
EXCUSE ME?!?! Most pedophiles are straight men - NOT homosexuals! Get your fucking facts straight before you go around calling gays pedophiles!
Thank you for brightening my day
To any future linux versions of Myth
*sigh*
Why not? What's the difference between a cease & desist letter going to /dev/null before you ever see it, and a subpeona not being handed directly to you?
None at all. The court can't punish you for not ceasing and desisting if you didn't know that you were being asked to.
Judge: "What measures did you take to ensure that the defendant would receive your request?"
Plaintiff: "We emailed him a cease & desist letter."
Judge: "And what proof do you have that he actually received it?"
Plaintiff: "Uhh...."
How can a corporation prove that you ever receved the email in the first place? What if I have a filter that sends all emails to /dev/null unless the originating address is allowed to reach my inbox? In such a circumstance, I would never receive their cease & desist letters.
There isn't a damn thing they (the corporation) could do about it either, because it is my right to filter my email as I choose. Even if no such filter existed, how could they [the Evil Corporation] prove that I received the email?
the correct url is: http://www.forumspot.org/
awww damn! Wish I still had moderation points. This was fscking hilarious :)
Someone mod this up 'funny'
[I have never seen a place that allowed a nick longer than 9 characters..]
Uhh, try irc.nevernet.net, for example..
> I always thought Dax was way sexier than 7 of 9...
;)
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Dax was nothing more than a big, intelligent slug, basically, and you find him attractive? ewwwwwww
Oh wait, you must mean Jadzia, Dax's host
Huh?
Suppose I registered a domain for the sole purpose of using it for email, and have no website for it at all.
Or as an IRC server.
or as a BBS.
Or maybe I haven't decided on a use for it yet; however, I registered it out of good faith.
Then a year later, Big Corporation comes in and decides that somehow Im infringing on their trademark. Does the lack of a website validate Big Corp's attempt at theft?
I think not - the lack of a website does not give any support to attempted theft. Domains DO have more uses than just websites.
--
Syg
Okay, I've been reading the comments, and I keep seeing your posts which say exactly the same thing. To make things worse, so far, every single one has been "(Score:3, Interesting)" or "(Score:3, Informative)".
Some moderator must be smoking crack, because your posts are becoming redundant - you don't need to beat us upside the head with your link.
flame-bait me, or whatever you will - Im just sick of these "linux virus research" replies.
--
Sygnus (who will be looking for these to show up in Meta-Moderation)
If Mattel succeeds in getting the logfiles, what do they plan to do with them?
If they think they're going to be able to take any action against people who download source code, they're going to get bit - and hard.
As has been stated in the DeCSS case, source code is not (yet) illegal, and any legal action against people for possessing such code would be illegal.
I don't see why these companies see the need to keep their lists encrypted anyway. Consumers should have the right to see exactly *what* the software they purchase is blocking. One possibility could be to set up a search engine that searches through the list so parents can see what comes up when they search for, say, 'breast'.
That would allow parents to make a more informed decision about the blocking software.
--
Sygnus
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