Apple would be much better of with Real for now. Because soon they will loose to the world. So it is much better to be with the world and fight microsoft.
1. Some people are doing similar things already. Look at it carefully. All he does is repacked some spare parts. It's not a complete system and by the time you make it complete system it will cost about the same as cheapest eMac. But no warranty, no support, no style and only hype. Marathon was offering rack mount Power Macs way before XServe, but they did not get in trouble.
2. It's not a clone. The only way it could have real success (and only probable problem for Apple) if a big manufacturer would make it, using their own motherboard and all other parts from the market.
3. I understand why Apple does not want clones. What I do not understand is why Apple does not make a $200-$400 part, sell it to clone maker along with permition/ability to buy and install OSX. So if Apple then can make about $500 per clone, it should not hurt them. Then companies like IBM could make servers, SGI could make hi-end graphics systems and direct their current customers to OSX
4. If all this will work out and price will be low and Apple won't kill him it will be permanent backorder company.
5. if someone so desparete for cheap mac, just buy used, or even non-working one, and fix it. it will be cheaper than iBox
Right now there is no alternative to exchange/outlook. and corporate and small-mid business can not really function well without it. It is a HUGE problem for Linux, BSD, *nix and Mac communities and even for wintel world. But there is a way out. It could be and should be done by several different ways: 1. A company with resources (redhat, sun, oracle, apple, ibm etc) should create a server framework similar to hotmail or.mac, but with calendar, appointment, mail and other group mail capabilities. And allow its clients create and administer groups, add users, use their own domain names and get enough disk space for all that. It will be a good competitor to a remote exchange. It should not be free, but should not cost a fortune, small business should be able to easily afford it. 2. Exchange is just a database, customized for corp. groupware and outlook just a front end to it. micro$oft does not make the bast database. there two alternative lines. Oracle which is better, faster and more popular on one hand and mysql and other oss databases on the other hand. thus it gives way for two+ customized databases combined with a customized mail program, evolution is one of them. this way oracle can make money and provide real-fighting alternative and free world would get their mysql kind of free solution. i am sure that clients will pop up like mushrooms after rain. oracle even made some noise about it already. 3. combination of first two solutions - more like the first one but portable, so people can start using it as a service, but at certain moment move it to internal server. 4. and of course just old fashion way, bunch of people get together and write an open source free full-featured alternative. it's a great thing, but it will take years and will be weak and will not be a m$ competitor for a long time. In any case, I think all four should be done and that's the way to stop the monopoly. I believe that if Apple, Sun, IBM and Redhat would just get together on this we can pull it off in 18 month.
It looks like that Microsoft got enough money to buy our new President. So soon they can ask for a nuclear strike on countries that illegally use their software.
People must be financially responsible for not making proper effort in securing their sites. If nike.com can prove that they tried and still got problems they will not loose the case, but if tehir ISP can prove that they neglected, why they should not be responsible
Netscape has lost this war indeed, and mostly not because Microsoft is evil and just flooded market with bad product, but because Netscape folks were not any better, they were "good" because they were against Microsoft. That's not good enough. Opera has a better chance if we all would support it. And Mozilla is far behind, with the same weak interface that is not as flaxible as IE one.
Alan, Haw about Linux really use unicode through all the OS? There is Unicode Conference is going on in San Jose, is anyone from Linux core develores being there?
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Apple would be much better of with Real for now.
Because soon they will loose to the world.
So it is much better to be with the world and fight microsoft.
This is just a big noise, no meat story
1. Some people are doing similar things already.
Look at it carefully. All he does is repacked some spare parts. It's not a complete system and by the time you make it complete system it will cost about the same as cheapest eMac. But no warranty, no support, no style and only hype.
Marathon was offering rack mount Power Macs way before XServe, but they did not get in trouble.
2. It's not a clone.
The only way it could have real success (and only probable problem for Apple) if a big manufacturer would make it, using their own motherboard and all other parts from the market.
3. I understand why Apple does not want clones. What I do not understand is why Apple does not make a $200-$400 part, sell it to clone maker along with permition/ability to buy and install OSX. So if Apple then can make about $500 per clone, it should not hurt them. Then companies like IBM could make servers, SGI could make hi-end graphics systems and direct their current customers to OSX
4. If all this will work out and price will be low and Apple won't kill him it will be permanent backorder company.
5. if someone so desparete for cheap mac, just buy used, or even non-working one, and fix it. it will be cheaper than iBox
Right now there is no alternative to exchange/outlook. and corporate and small-mid business can not really function well without it. It is a HUGE problem for Linux, BSD, *nix and Mac communities and even for wintel world. But there is a way out. It could be and should be done by several different ways: .mac, but with calendar, appointment, mail and other group mail capabilities. And allow its clients create and administer groups, add users, use their own domain names and get enough disk space for all that. It will be a good competitor to a remote exchange. It should not be free, but should not cost a fortune, small business should be able to easily afford it.
1. A company with resources (redhat, sun, oracle, apple, ibm etc) should create a server framework similar to hotmail or
2. Exchange is just a database, customized for corp. groupware and outlook just a front end to it. micro$oft does not make the bast database. there two alternative lines. Oracle which is better, faster and more popular on one hand and mysql and other oss databases on the other hand.
thus it gives way for two+ customized databases combined with a customized mail program, evolution is one of them. this way oracle can make money and provide real-fighting alternative and free world would get their mysql kind of free solution. i am sure that clients will pop up like mushrooms after rain. oracle even made some noise about it already.
3. combination of first two solutions - more like the first one but portable, so people can start using it as a service, but at certain moment move it to internal server.
4. and of course just old fashion way, bunch of people get together and write an open source free full-featured alternative. it's a great thing, but it will take years and will be weak and will not be a m$ competitor for a long time.
In any case, I think all four should be done and that's the way to stop the monopoly.
I believe that if Apple, Sun, IBM and Redhat would just get together on this we can pull it off in 18 month.
It looks like that Microsoft got enough money to buy our new President. So soon they can ask for a nuclear strike on countries that illegally use their software.
People must be financially responsible for not making proper effort in securing their sites. If nike.com can prove that they tried and still got problems they will not loose the case, but if tehir ISP can prove that they neglected, why they should not be responsible
Netscape has lost this war indeed, and mostly not because Microsoft is evil and just flooded market with bad product, but because Netscape folks were not any better, they were "good" because they were against Microsoft. That's not good enough. Opera has a better chance if we all would support it. And Mozilla is far behind, with the same weak interface that is not as flaxible as IE one.
Alan, Haw about Linux really use unicode through all the OS? There is Unicode Conference is going on in San Jose, is anyone from Linux core develores being there?