What kind of stupid class is this? Find 10 security holes in *nix? Each person?
What makes this professor think the standard set of *nix based programs even contains 250 security holes? Generally, FLOSS is better secured than proprietary software.
But by the looks of things, he is looking for minor things like writing past an array, not full-blown arbitrary code execution. But I still don't think this is reasonable at all.
As previos posters have suggested, take your case to the administration. You don't deserve an F because you can't find 10 security holes in the most secure operating system and associated software suite that exists.
Nobuo Uematsu is one of the best composers of the present time. This is not about a bunch of video game fanboys with too much time and money on their hands, this is about a bunch of music afficionados going to a concert.
What is stupid or gay about a bunch of music afficionados going to a concert? If you think of the music as separate from the game, that's whay it becomes. And yes, Nobuo Uematsu's music is good enough to stand on its own and not as part of Final Fantasy.
Before I stopped downloading music (for ethical reasons) I used to download and listen to Final Fantasy music all the time, while I wasn't playing the game. And I don't even like Final Fantasy that much.
So, before you think that this will just be a bunch of people who live in their parents' basement dressed up like Cloud, think again. It really is good music.
I never said robotics competition will make people more scared of being called nerdy geeks than a programming fair, I simply said that most high school students are too lazy to partake in such a thing.
Really? TI-BASIC is really simple and powerless, I can't imagine something that people actually use for something productive on computers would be at all similar.
Example: You only have 27 variables to use, all of them global. You can only name them a one character letter from A to Z or theta.
I didn't say it is a very powerful or good language, just that it is one. Anything that allows you to give instructions to computer systems is a programming language.
I don't make games with it, I make useful math programs to cut out the busy work on homework and tests. I am not doing it to challenge myself, I am merely doing it to make my life easier.
Also, I know it's easy, that was my point. I was trying to point out that people get excited about programming, even if it is a really trivial thing.
I really don't like it when everyone assumes that we are all stupid, ignorant, lazy, and badly behaved. That is a large portion of us, but it is not all of us. That is why I try to write and speak as properly as I can. It's also why I don't like stupid things like 1337. It disgusts me so much what some people are doing to the reputation of the rest of us, so I try to combat it as much as I can by writing and speaking properly. I even use full words in text messages.
So please, everyone, don't take what you see in chat rooms as the definition of all teenagers and high school students, because it really isn't.
I am a high school student, so I beliewe I am qualified to answer you.
First, be forwarned. I don't mean to sond cynical, but there is not a whole lot that has to do with science and technology that would excite most students. Even if it does, a lot of people are too scared of being called a "nerd" or a "geek" and thereby having their social status for the rest of the four years ruined to show that excitement.
There are, however, some. I don't think that a robotics competition is a good idea, however. I don't know about most schools, but at mine there are not a lot of people interested in robotics. Besides, it would take a lot of work, and a lot of the most brilliant people are inherently lazy.
I think the programming fair was a great idea, however. Every time I write a program to do the simplest thing on my TI-84+ graphing calculator (such as convert celsius to fahrenheit for instance) people gape at me with awe and amazement and ask, how did you DO that? This includes jocks, socialites, and various other groups of people who would normally not be caught dead showing an interest in the "nerdy" fields of computers or technology.
If you put on a programming fair, you are not going to be able to teach anyone computer programming in a day, but you will spark their interest. Give away a few CDs with C tutorials on them or something, and maybe, just maybe, a few kids will try them out.
Also, expect the bit-head population to turn out in force at your fair. You can even put some of them to good use, having them help the newbies who have no idea what's going on.
In conclusion, programming fair=good, robotics competition=bad.
This is actually very easy to do. Video morphing software is easy to come by, and if you find a picture such as the ones on bushorchim.com, in which the facial features of both subjects are lined up at least somewhat, it becomes trivially easy.
I have done it BTW, but I don't have the MPEG anymore (there have been drive reformats between then and now.)
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What kind of stupid class is this? Find 10 security holes in *nix? Each person?
What makes this professor think the standard set of *nix based programs even contains 250 security holes? Generally, FLOSS is better secured than proprietary software.
But by the looks of things, he is looking for minor things like writing past an array, not full-blown arbitrary code execution. But I still don't think this is reasonable at all.
As previos posters have suggested, take your case to the administration. You don't deserve an F because you can't find 10 security holes in the most secure operating system and associated software suite that exists.
This is good> .
No matter how stupid the P2P laws are, it is good when they are enforced. It is not anyone's right to break the law, no matter how silly the law is.
And I bet you would just love intellectual property laws if you had any intellectual property.
Are you reading at -1?
If so, you will realize that above posters have said it was "gay" and "the place where I can kick the most nerd ass at once"
Those people are who I'm trying to convince
Heh, that guy's the sherriff in my town. I live in Northwest Phoenix by the way.
Nobuo Uematsu is one of the best composers of the present time. This is not about a bunch of video game fanboys with too much time and money on their hands, this is about a bunch of music afficionados going to a concert.
What is stupid or gay about a bunch of music afficionados going to a concert? If you think of the music as separate from the game, that's whay it becomes. And yes, Nobuo Uematsu's music is good enough to stand on its own and not as part of Final Fantasy.
Before I stopped downloading music (for ethical reasons) I used to download and listen to Final Fantasy music all the time, while I wasn't playing the game. And I don't even like Final Fantasy that much.
So, before you think that this will just be a bunch of people who live in their parents' basement dressed up like Cloud, think again. It really is good music.
Yep :)
sorry, wrong.
I actually saw an ad in my local newspaper for a $100 PC. No joke.
No, it's just because I use the Dvorak keyboard, on which W is right next to V.
Thanks for notifying me, I will update the thing to say very instead of wery.
And, The Anti-1337 Manifesto, that is a very good name! I think I'm going to use it.
Before computers, there were difficulties getting people to respect parole and probation.
With computers, there are difficulties getting people to respect parole and probation.
But we seem to have dealt with the problem so far, so why can't we deal with it nowadays?
I never said robotics competition will make people more scared of being called nerdy geeks than a programming fair, I simply said that most high school students are too lazy to partake in such a thing.
Tell them that no matter how abstract it is, the benefit of programming is a relatively high-paying white-collar job in the future.
If I am able to make the program, I obviously know the stuff well enough to be able to skip practicing it 100000 times.
Oh nevermind, I'm stupid, I thought you were calling me an idiot.
And I don't even know anything about Java, so I don't know how powerful or good it really is.
Really? TI-BASIC is really simple and powerless, I can't imagine something that people actually use for something productive on computers would be at all similar.
Example: You only have 27 variables to use, all of them global. You can only name them a one character letter from A to Z or theta.
I have read it (before you told me to) and agree completely.
I didn't say it is a very powerful or good language, just that it is one. Anything that allows you to give instructions to computer systems is a programming language.
Please enlighten me, why am I an idiot?
Java is a real programming language. What makes you think it isn't?
You are right. However, I think that the fair could be structured in such a way as to make people not think of it as such a nerdy thing.
I don't think any jocks would show up unless forced to, but it might appeal to "average" people.
What does HTML have to do with programming?
Excel scripting, maybe.
Java, good.
But why not teach them Java only instead of things that they could easily learn in a week of their own time?
Both of you should read this:
Why I hate 1337
I don't make games with it, I make useful math programs to cut out the busy work on homework and tests. I am not doing it to challenge myself, I am merely doing it to make my life easier.
Also, I know it's easy, that was my point. I was trying to point out that people get excited about programming, even if it is a really trivial thing.
I used "however" 3 times...what are you talking about?
Thank you :)
I really don't like it when everyone assumes that we are all stupid, ignorant, lazy, and badly behaved. That is a large portion of us, but it is not all of us. That is why I try to write and speak as properly as I can. It's also why I don't like stupid things like 1337. It disgusts me so much what some people are doing to the reputation of the rest of us, so I try to combat it as much as I can by writing and speaking properly. I even use full words in text messages.
So please, everyone, don't take what you see in chat rooms as the definition of all teenagers and high school students, because it really isn't.
I am a high school student, so I beliewe I am qualified to answer you.
First, be forwarned. I don't mean to sond cynical, but there is not a whole lot that has to do with science and technology that would excite most students. Even if it does, a lot of people are too scared of being called a "nerd" or a "geek" and thereby having their social status for the rest of the four years ruined to show that excitement.
There are, however, some. I don't think that a robotics competition is a good idea, however. I don't know about most schools, but at mine there are not a lot of people interested in robotics. Besides, it would take a lot of work, and a lot of the most brilliant people are inherently lazy.
I think the programming fair was a great idea, however. Every time I write a program to do the simplest thing on my TI-84+ graphing calculator (such as convert celsius to fahrenheit for instance) people gape at me with awe and amazement and ask, how did you DO that? This includes jocks, socialites, and various other groups of people who would normally not be caught dead showing an interest in the "nerdy" fields of computers or technology.
If you put on a programming fair, you are not going to be able to teach anyone computer programming in a day, but you will spark their interest. Give away a few CDs with C tutorials on them or something, and maybe, just maybe, a few kids will try them out.
Also, expect the bit-head population to turn out in force at your fair. You can even put some of them to good use, having them help the newbies who have no idea what's going on.
In conclusion, programming fair=good, robotics competition=bad.
This is actually very easy to do. Video morphing software is easy to come by, and if you find a picture such as the ones on bushorchim.com, in which the facial features of both subjects are lined up at least somewhat, it becomes trivially easy.
I have done it BTW, but I don't have the MPEG anymore (there have been drive reformats between then and now.)