That he thinks that all actions should be logged and easily traced back to whoever committed said action. It also means that they want some better backdoors built into existing encryption products, but the CIA is having a hard time getting them into the open source ones.
I wonder if the CIA/NSA/FBI/etc has people who help program OSS so that they can incorporate little hooks into things?
Two wrongs definitely do make a right. We should ignore all wrongdoings providing we can find someone else who is doing wrong.
No, you clearly don't get it: the whole worlds press is this way. Not just the US press. BOTH stories should be getting coverage in all markets. I was responding to someone pointing at the US as if they're the only purveyor of this stupidity.
Dow has no plans to clean up the facility and no plans to compensate the survivors.
LOL MICAHEL
You're a complete fuck you and you know it. Why don't you get your head out of your ass and actually look past the "AMERIKAN CORPORATIONS ARE TEH SUCK!" viewpoint you have.
They have compensated to the tune of almost $500,000,000 and they have helped to clean the site up.
WHERE'S your BULLSHIT outrage against the Indian government for doing nothing? They had a 51% share in the plant for fuck sakes.
Today's one of those days when you can really see the difference between what the US is talking about and what the world media is covering by looking at google news and comparing it to the international sites.
Because as we all know the massive UN/French Oil for Food corruption (netting Saddam over $20 billion and the French over $1 billion), the French killing of unarmed protestors in the Ivory Coast, without first firing warning shots, (the videos are out there for anyone to see), and the ineptitude of the UN in doing absolutely anything about the problems in Africa are all getting tons of play in the European press!
But, you know, David Blunkett might get to see someone who he thinks might be his son.
Given the current situation in the USA, where corporations have the same rights as people then they should bear the same responsibilities.
You're right. The COMPANY should be held responsible. Not someone who probably had no idea there were safety issues at the site.
As CEO of the company Warren Anderson is the person in which these responsiblities rest.
He's Chairman, but that doesn't matter really. Someone can, and should be, held personally responsible if their actions lead to the problem. Did Warren Anderson order that safety issues be ignored? Did he know about the problems, but did nothing? Then he might be personally responsible. Simply being at the head of a company when some of the people way down the chain from you massively fuck up is in no way a reason for you to personally be charged for murder.
To extend the analogy - who effectively is responsible for Abu Ghraib? To extend your badly formed analogy: clearly it's the Bushilter and Cheniburton! Give me a break.
Had he personally known about or had ignored the problems at the site then he is responsible. Had he issued orders that the site bypass certain regulations, then he would be responsible.
Simply sitting at the head of a huge multinational corporation when something bad goes wrong in no way makes you criminally liable for the action. They want to try him for murder. What next, one of your employees rapes another one, and the Chairman is brought up on rape chargers?
Shh... that doesn't fit in with Michael's anti-company world view! Companies are EEVIL!
Talk about posting a absolutely one-sided story using marginally true facts. It's very Michael Moore like actually, using half truths to paint a picture of something that doesn't actually exist.
And the chairman should be brought to trial for what reason? It's horrible what happened, but he had nothing to do with the problem. It's not like he was telling the factory to cut corners and not to follow regulations.
He had probably never spoken to anyone at the site, ever. We're not exactly talking about a small company here.
yes we all witnessed the amazing weather prediction technology that much of Europre employs with the amazing deaths of 10s of thousands of old people (not from Korea or Japan) in "englightened" France last year.
When was the last time that happened here in the stupid US?
Good point, why would I ever want to download "things" at a fairly constant 2.6-2.8Mbps (on my 3 Mb connection) from newsgroups when I can do so at a very inconsitent 50-100Kbps from a torrent?
And from torrents I get the added benefit of not only downloading the file, but uploading to everyone else and broadcasting my IP address all over the place.
there's some neocon advantage. like they insist on making your credit easily available to the individual, and a nice side effect is it's very easy for them to get a copy too
LOL - Yes. Those super evil super powerful neocons are everywhere. The term "neocon" is the liberal's answer to the word "liberal".
And anyways... who's "they"? ? "They" could already get this information. Credit card companies? Same thing. They pull this data all the freaken time (anyone else getting 3-6 credit card offers a day?)
Slashdot Mirror
Oh yes... the BushCheniburton company, right? Yes, that's why we got involved in the Korean war!
I think you have a complex about the Military Industrial Complex.
That he thinks that all actions should be logged and easily traced back to whoever committed said action.
It also means that they want some better backdoors built into existing encryption products, but the CIA is having a hard time getting them into the open source ones.
I wonder if the CIA/NSA/FBI/etc has people who help program OSS so that they can incorporate little hooks into things?
In Japan, only old people read hoaxes.
Two wrongs definitely do make a right. We should ignore all wrongdoings providing we can find someone else who is doing wrong.
No, you clearly don't get it: the whole worlds press is this way. Not just the US press. BOTH stories should be getting coverage in all markets. I was responding to someone pointing at the US as if they're the only purveyor of this stupidity.
Dow has no plans to clean up the facility and no plans to compensate the survivors.
LOL MICAHEL
You're a complete fuck you and you know it. Why don't you get your head out of your ass and actually look past the "AMERIKAN CORPORATIONS ARE TEH SUCK!" viewpoint you have.
They have compensated to the tune of almost $500,000,000 and they have helped to clean the site up.
WHERE'S your BULLSHIT outrage against the Indian government for doing nothing? They had a 51% share in the plant for fuck sakes.
Today's one of those days when you can really see the difference between what the US is talking about and what the world media is covering by looking at google news and comparing it to the international sites.
Because as we all know the massive UN/French Oil for Food corruption (netting Saddam over $20 billion and the French over $1 billion), the French killing of unarmed protestors in the Ivory Coast, without first firing warning shots, (the videos are out there for anyone to see), and the ineptitude of the UN in doing absolutely anything about the problems in Africa are all getting tons of play in the European press!
But, you know, David Blunkett might get to see someone who he thinks might be his son.
No, it was at the planters peanut factory. Those evil peanut makers that cause all those people who are allergic to peanuts to die!
Given the current situation in the USA, where corporations have the same rights as people then they should bear the same responsibilities.
You're right. The COMPANY should be held responsible. Not someone who probably had no idea there were safety issues at the site.
As CEO of the company Warren Anderson is the person in which these responsiblities rest.
He's Chairman, but that doesn't matter really. Someone can, and should be, held personally responsible if their actions lead to the problem. Did Warren Anderson order that safety issues be ignored? Did he know about the problems, but did nothing? Then he might be personally responsible. Simply being at the head of a company when some of the people way down the chain from you massively fuck up is in no way a reason for you to personally be charged for murder.
To extend the analogy - who effectively is responsible for Abu Ghraib?
To extend your badly formed analogy: clearly it's the Bushilter and Cheniburton! Give me a break.
Instead of spending time on Slashdot, maybe you should go and educate your British friends about Auschwitz.
No. That is incorrect.
Had he personally known about or had ignored the problems at the site then he is responsible. Had he issued orders that the site bypass certain regulations, then he would be responsible.
Simply sitting at the head of a huge multinational corporation when something bad goes wrong in no way makes you criminally liable for the action. They want to try him for murder. What next, one of your employees rapes another one, and the Chairman is brought up on rape chargers?
Shh... that doesn't fit in with Michael's anti-company world view! Companies are EEVIL!
Talk about posting a absolutely one-sided story using marginally true facts. It's very Michael Moore like actually, using half truths to paint a picture of something that doesn't actually exist.
Corporate interests has played a large role in nearly all US interventions since WW2.
Millions of people have been killed, directly or indirectly.
Economical power is political power.
Yes, the massive corporate interests in Korea and Vietnam!
LOL - what have they been teaching kids these days?
And the chairman should be brought to trial for what reason? It's horrible what happened, but he had nothing to do with the problem. It's not like he was telling the factory to cut corners and not to follow regulations.
He had probably never spoken to anyone at the site, ever. We're not exactly talking about a small company here.
That text to speech is pretty good.
Only a little glitch on "important assets" "announce alarms" and "dispatching".
When a laptop screams 'I'm being stolen! I'm being stolen!' and no one can here it, is it really making noise?
yes, just as soon as you stop saying Kleenex, band-aid, coke, etc.
check that - 5GB every 30 days
my current ISP has a newserver that's limited to about 5mb every 30 days, although they only really clamp down on you if you go hog wild
The newsserver I pay for saturates my connection.
I am tempted to bump my internet connection up to 6Mbps (for $20 more a month) and see if the newsserver can still keep up.
yes we all witnessed the amazing weather prediction technology that much of Europre employs with the amazing deaths of 10s of thousands of old people (not from Korea or Japan) in "englightened" France last year.
When was the last time that happened here in the stupid US?
Good job guys! Keep up the good work!
Good point, why would I ever want to download "things" at a fairly constant 2.6-2.8Mbps (on my 3 Mb connection) from newsgroups when I can do so at a very inconsitent 50-100Kbps from a torrent?
And from torrents I get the added benefit of not only downloading the file, but uploading to everyone else and broadcasting my IP address all over the place.
Sorry to have to do this but:
The phrase That was the two is improper. I could have let one time go without correction, but it has now been stated twice.
Correct form: Those were the two
Thank you, drive through.
But are they adding support for NZB files? That's the real question.
Thank you! I've actually been looking for that number recently. My google searches all ended up in sites with less than dubious appearances.
+37 Informative
Rather tell my father that than my mother...
(or your mother! HEEHEE!)
there's some neocon advantage. like they insist on making your credit easily available to the individual, and a nice side effect is it's very easy for them to get a copy too
LOL - Yes. Those super evil super powerful neocons are everywhere. The term "neocon" is the liberal's answer to the word "liberal".
And anyways... who's "they"? ? "They" could already get this information. Credit card companies? Same thing. They pull this data all the freaken time (anyone else getting 3-6 credit card offers a day?)
In North Korea, only old people design nuclear bombs to kill YOU!
I'd prefer:
In Soviet Korea, only old people kill you to design nuclear bombs!