First, of all you've been watching too many episodes of the X-Files. It's turned your brain into a vegetable.
You say, but X-Files is about the gov't being evil and has nothing to do with terrorism.
That's not the point.
Look at your post:
Why are they infringing on the right of people to kill hundreds in senseless slaughter? Those terrorists should be allowed their privacy to make weapons.
What the hell does privacy have to do with weapons or mass murder? Why not privacy so no one knows you have 3 nipples?
Having your body shown naked is a matter of privacy. Finding guns, knives, drugs, bombs, etc. is a matter of secrecy.
To detect concealed weapons you only need to see outlines.
The fear here is that people are being treted as objects to whatever degree, which goes against the true purpose of privacy, to encourage respect between people. How much easier is it going to be for a disgruntled non-terrorist to plan some shit if people are not respected as human beings but seen as objects?
I really wish society would stop blaming inanimate objects, I just might to do something...
intimate with his/her lover not the command line. God if I hear that again I'm going to burst. Tell me what is so intimate about the commandline: 1. I want to do something 2. Read how to do it 3. Do it Intimacy with your computer is collecting stray lines of code and stringing them for fun. Nobody does that. Both newbies and some unix users need to swallow their pride. I switched away from Windows when I realized what a whining stuck-up ass it turned me into.
Go doubleclick on your girlfriend's lips the next time you're on a date. And when she gives you choices, totally ignore her and whine about why you have to lift a finger before getting down to business.
Now you're going to tell me a GUI is easier than an interface that mimmicks human interaction: the command line?
Repeat after me, Bill Gates did not invent the computer. Bill Gates did not invent the computer. come on now you can do it. Bill Gates makes money the same way, any salesman does, ripping off people with gimmicks.
If I'm not mistaken you're not allowed to commit suicide. That is you cannot move so that w/o the oppnent making a move you put your king in harm's way.
1. White 2. Black 3. White 4. Black 5. White
Now unless 2 + 2 = 5, (hint hint: the chess game at the end of 1984), there's no way black wins.
Oh quit whining. The game of licensing is speak up if you want something. Make a viral BSD if that's what you need and please for Pete's sake quit whining.
I suggest we disinfect the Witless General Apathy Virus. It may be fashionable and a "sign of professionalism", but it has to go.
Second tell me how it's patentable. Even the USPTO's rules vaguely mention the question of something being non-trivial. Only a web illiterate would see this as non-trivial.
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Yay now the internet is no longer virtual. I can experience reality in the privacy of my own home to the fullest extent and we no longer need John Calvin's Big Brother beause we can feel shame as soon as the computer says: "Thou shalt not do that nor go there, but I shall not prevent thee for it is the will of God."
I'll agree that not many people, not enviromentalists, naturalists, utopianists, scientists, have a clue what they're talking about.
However, there is such a thing as a shallow short-sighted approach.
Think about what script kiddies do all day and compare it to building a useful product for personal use or to sell.
They scan ports. Geneticists scan gene sequences. Script kiddies are likely not to even know what all those ports do. Well guess what? Geneticists have no clue how genes work. Yeah I studied all that crap about who can have blues and which rabbit is going to be an albino. The point is that they don't know what that geen has to do with eye color. They just figured it all statistically without any clue as to how it all works. Now they're going to take sequences they found in many organisms to try to synthesize a life form? Good luck. Why don't we just cut and paste sequences from Windows, BeOS, Linux, MacOS, QNX, and BSD from different architectures and see what happens.
And btw:
If we wanna save the environment, well, that is for us. Not for the spotted owls. If we think it's actually for some dumb birds. we're deluding ourselves.
Go study complexity theory and ecosystems. It should reduce some of that hubris.
The fact is nature isn't for anyone. It's just there and it moves and changes. Look at the damned Red Spot. If trees grew there it could not develop.
Frankly, extreme environmentalists and Manifest Destiny freaks are the same shallow bunch.
C'mon you're telling me you're going to runaway because of the current performance for web video. Hello? Every new technology has to catch up with the old especially when the basis of that tecvhnology is extremely widespread and heavily tapped to such an extent that all new technologies have an uphill battle.
I mean c'mon, do you watch TV for content or do you flip channels to find the clearest one. Or to put thiungs into perspective. How many people here buy linux/bsd for the install routine as opposed to using it. Raise your hands (journalists put your hands down unless you use it not install at home.)
Requiring someone to be a minor, however, is an abomination. My younger brother has a copy of Microsoft Windows legally licensed, according to their EULA, but Caldera's Linux distribution requires you to be 18, so you can verify that the license applies to you? Get real people, I think not. I wholeheartedly disagree with everyone who thinks we should be nice to Caldera -- they've trampled the rights of the Free Software / Linux community, and if they are allowed to do so, other companies will follow suit. What will be of your beloved GPL then? Nothing. It'll be a meaningless collection of bites on a hard drive.
The problem is Corel at the moment. Second I think it's time Corel read their own licenses. I w ould settler out of court if they could provide positive proof of that.
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301st to try is a matter of performance problems. Real email address a way to deal with abuse. Certain countries, well that slipped through. 18 it makes no sense and reeks of legal paranoia as opposed to the fact the GPL is a reaction to a real threat.
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Corel is not the first order distributor for the distro. Debian is.
Debian decided to put stuff under the GPL, therefore they cannot change it.
As for/. jumping the gun, that's what/. is for a public discussion. This isn't a news wire, this isn't a chat room, it's a discussion forum. Just because everyone knows about it makes it no different than posting on USENET or a mailing list.
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I happen to like my ISP they refuse to censor material. Chack SNET's policy web page at SNET.net.
So what's the moral of the story? Find yourself a medium that you control, don't depend on renting space from other companies. How you do that is up to you.
This is a reason to opt for T1 Lines asd ADSL. Of course the roads aren't paved with gold. Are you saying only rich people should have protection.
Similarly, the FBI (or anyone else) does not have to get any sort of legal document to tell an ISP to wipe out your web site. All they have to do is ask nicely, and get the ISP to agree that they shouldn't be supporting this. Then, subject to the agreement that you have with your ISP (which almost ALWAYS protect the ISP, and practically never gives you any say in anything at all), your pages get trashed. End of story. Nobody's constitutional rights were stomped on at all.
Hello, Earth to Garin. Let's not even talk about possibilities of mass censorship here. And I won't even go into the question of tact and attitude, or should I say manners. I don't have to.
1. That same ISP often gets money by using my site to advertise. Therefore it is obviously my content and my resources he/she/it is making money from.
One must remember something extremely important: free speech is protected.... HOWEVER.... Nothing says that anyone else must support your message with their resources. For example, you have the right to publish and distribute your own magazine, but you do NOT have the right to demand that an arbitrary magazine publishes your essays.
You're so wrong. So fucking wrong. I'm the publisher not the ISP. This is like saying that the publisher is the company giveing me collocated space on a server I paid for. Or even if I didn't didn't. Whatever the deal is it's my server
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1. The net is just a connection end of story. It has no magic of its own. It's the people that count.
2. If the novelty doesn't wear of businesses will never grow into healthy long lasting companies always just another fad coming through.
3. Real net users don't go on vacation on the net. They milk it for all it can offer. Like tutorials on every programming language that exists or cookbooks.
Can't we move past the hype already? "Computers should be... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
I have just added several signed values that equal 10 (note signed means may include signs).
Find the values to decrypt a message that you're not to open till xmas. "Computers should be... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
Well It's about time people got a clue. Privacy isn't about shame and vice. It's about being recognized as an individual (which newsjerks falsely equate with uniqueness). It's about having personal control over your time, lifestyle, and your FRREEDOM of ASSOCIATION. Laws are made to deal with exceptions, not to tell the whole world what to do.
Consider the case of Harrison Bergeron (Vonnegut rules): He has an implant that prevents him from concentrating whenever he has illegal thoughts.
Now say everything you do or say is monitored. Do you really think the game stops there? Remember we're talking about humans being the monitors. Paranoia doesn't die when a particular fear is resolved. Paranoia just shifts its focus.
Sure, monitoring all phone calls will satisfy the majority of people working 40hrs a week completely detached scared to death of the world around them.
It will satisfy them about a month, if the news stations could abstain from playing the fear card (NBC and Y2K ring a bell?). Most likely that'll be a week.
Next you'll find that people are still afraid because the problem hasn't been solved and they know it. They know subconsciously that all that has happened is that they treated symptoms of fear and security agencies have made a killing.
So what next? Speculative profiling. Gateway thoughts (similar to that farce the gateway drug). Attitude adjustment counseling.
So what's wrong with checking up on people? IT'S RUDE. It doesn't merely show a lack of class, but also it shows a lack of respect. You are a permanent suspect from the day you're born. You have no dignity. But the worst part is this:
IT IS DISRUPTIVE. Expressing an idea, producing a work, making a product, and being able to have stress-free periods to do so requires that you are not interrupted. It requires that you are not spending 90% of your time second guessing yourself wondering whether your work violates some vaguely defined votemagnet law.
It gets so ridiculous that such harrassment can be used in place of actually infringing on people other rights because it is so disruptive it hindrance in the same way as actually infringing on their rights. "Computers should be... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
I'm curious how this is dishonest. Unless every damned distro is dishonest. The insurance package is a bit far fetched, though as the cost of a blank CD is trivial. Anyhow it's unnecessary, you can make money off the GPL period. No undocumented APIs required:) All the GPL does is make the market extremely competeitive. Now, hands up, tell me who wouldn't like to see the software market evolve already. "Computers should be... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
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As for the Anti-religious nature of most techies these days. So what? Religion is a way to cheat at sprituality knowing you'll never have any substance but everyone else will think you do.
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First, of all you've been watching too many episodes of the X-Files. It's turned your brain into a vegetable.
You say, but X-Files is about the gov't being evil and has nothing to do with terrorism.
That's not the point.
Look at your post:
Why are they infringing on the right of people to kill hundreds in senseless slaughter? Those terrorists should be allowed their privacy to make weapons.
What the hell does privacy have to do with weapons or mass murder? Why not privacy so no one knows you have 3 nipples?
Having your body shown naked is a matter of privacy. Finding guns, knives, drugs, bombs, etc. is a matter of secrecy.
To detect concealed weapons you only need to see outlines.
The fear here is that people are being treted as objects to whatever degree, which goes against the true purpose of privacy, to encourage respect between people. How much easier is it going to be for a disgruntled non-terrorist to plan some shit if people are not respected as human beings but seen as objects?
I really wish society would stop blaming inanimate objects, I just might to do something...
intimate with his/her lover not the command line. God if I hear that again I'm going to burst. Tell me what is so intimate about the commandline: 1. I want to do something 2. Read how to do it 3. Do it Intimacy with your computer is collecting stray lines of code and stringing them for fun. Nobody does that. Both newbies and some unix users need to swallow their pride. I switched away from Windows when I realized what a whining stuck-up ass it turned me into.
Go doubleclick on your girlfriend's lips the next time you're on a date. And when she gives you choices, totally ignore her and whine about why you have to lift a finger before getting down to business.
Now you're going to tell me a GUI is easier than an interface that mimmicks human interaction: the command line?
Repeat after me, Bill Gates did not invent the computer. Bill Gates did not invent the computer. come on now you can do it. Bill Gates makes money the same way, any salesman does, ripping off people with gimmicks.
Oh and By the way, it's **n*x not Un*x.
Go read IBM or HP's internal memos if that's what you want.
And frankly I think it shouldn't be moderated down only so that we get more discussion about how disturbingly narrow minded your comment is.
I doubt it. Very much.
If I'm not mistaken you're not allowed to commit suicide. That is you cannot move so that w/o the oppnent making a move you put your king in harm's way.
1. White 2. Black 3. White 4. Black 5. White
Now unless 2 + 2 = 5, (hint hint: the chess game at the end of 1984), there's no way black wins.
Oh quit whining. The game of licensing is speak up if you want something. Make a viral BSD if that's what you need and please for Pete's sake quit whining.
I get sick myself. What I would like to know is:
1. Where does the USPTO get off not having an email address? It takes minutes to set it up.
2. Where do we go to pressure them to change?
I suggest we disinfect the Witless General Apathy Virus. It may be fashionable and a "sign of professionalism", but it has to go.
Second tell me how it's patentable. Even the USPTO's rules vaguely mention the question of something being non-trivial. Only a web illiterate would see this as non-trivial.
Yay now the internet is no longer virtual. I can experience reality in the privacy of my own home to the fullest extent and we no longer need John Calvin's Big Brother beause we can feel shame as soon as the computer says: "Thou shalt not do that nor go there, but I shall not prevent thee for it is the will of God."
Man what a beautiful world.
Then all the money made from frivolous lawsuits could go to Free Software.
I'll agree that not many people, not enviromentalists, naturalists, utopianists, scientists, have a clue what they're talking about.
However, there is such a thing as a shallow short-sighted approach.
Think about what script kiddies do all day and compare it to building a useful product for personal use or to sell.
They scan ports. Geneticists scan gene sequences. Script kiddies are likely not to even know what all those ports do. Well guess what? Geneticists have no clue how genes work. Yeah I studied all that crap about who can have blues and which rabbit is going to be an albino. The point is that they don't know what that geen has to do with eye color. They just figured it all statistically without any clue as to how it all works. Now they're going to take sequences they found in many organisms to try to synthesize a life form? Good luck. Why don't we just cut and paste sequences from Windows, BeOS, Linux, MacOS, QNX, and BSD from different architectures and see what happens.
And btw:
If we wanna save the environment, well, that is for us. Not for the spotted owls. If we think it's actually for some dumb birds. we're deluding ourselves.
Go study complexity theory and ecosystems. It should reduce some of that hubris.
The fact is nature isn't for anyone. It's just there and it moves and changes. Look at the damned Red Spot. If trees grew there it could not develop.
Frankly, extreme environmentalists and Manifest Destiny freaks are the same shallow bunch.
C'mon you're telling me you're going to runaway because of the current performance for web video. Hello? Every new technology has to catch up with the old especially when the basis of that tecvhnology is extremely widespread and heavily tapped to such an extent that all new technologies have an uphill battle.
I mean c'mon, do you watch TV for content or do you flip channels to find the clearest one. Or to put thiungs into perspective. How many people here buy linux/bsd for the install routine as opposed to using it. Raise your hands (journalists put your hands down unless you use it not install at home.)
Gah when will the novelty wear off so we can see these babies used in real life, not in this ridiculous only techies would care circus.
Okay my bad. But the point is still the same. They have no business fucking with the license
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
"Computers should be
Requiring someone to be a minor, however, is an abomination. My younger brother has a copy of Microsoft Windows legally licensed, according to their EULA, but Caldera's Linux distribution requires you to be 18, so you can verify that the
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
license applies to you? Get real people, I think not. I wholeheartedly disagree with everyone who thinks we should be nice to Caldera -- they've trampled the rights of the Free Software / Linux community, and if they are allowed to do so, other companies will follow suit. What will be of your beloved GPL then? Nothing. It'll be a meaningless collection of bites on a hard drive.
The problem is Corel at the moment. Second I think it's time Corel read their own licenses. I w ould settler out of court if they could provide positive proof of that.
"Computers should be
C'mon are you really this dumb?
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
301st to try is a matter of performance problems.
Real email address a way to deal with abuse.
Certain countries, well that slipped through.
18 it makes no sense and reeks of legal paranoia as opposed to the fact the GPL is a reaction to a real threat.
"Computers should be
Corel is not the first order distributor for the distro. Debian is.
/. jumping the gun, that's what /. is for a public discussion. This isn't a news wire, this isn't a chat room, it's a discussion forum. Just because everyone knows about it makes it no different than posting on USENET or a mailing list.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
Debian decided to put stuff under the GPL, therefore they cannot change it.
As for
"Computers should be
I happen to like my ISP they refuse to censor material. Chack SNET's policy web page at SNET.net.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
So what's the moral of the story? Find yourself a medium that you control, don't depend on renting space from other companies. How you do that is up to you.
This is a reason to opt for T1 Lines asd ADSL. Of course the roads aren't paved with gold. Are you saying only rich people should have protection.
Similarly, the FBI (or anyone else) does not have to get any sort of legal document to tell an ISP to wipe out your web site. All they have to do is ask nicely, and get the ISP to agree that they shouldn't be supporting this. Then, subject to the agreement that you have with your ISP (which almost ALWAYS protect the ISP, and practically never gives you any say in
anything at all), your pages get trashed. End of story. Nobody's constitutional rights were stomped on at all.
Hello, Earth to Garin. Let's not even talk about possibilities of mass censorship here. And I won't even go into the question of tact and attitude, or should I say manners. I don't have to.
1. That same ISP often gets money by using my site to advertise. Therefore it is obviously my content and my resources he/she/it is making money from.
One must remember something extremely important: free speech is protected.... HOWEVER.... Nothing says that anyone else must support your message with their resources. For example, you have the right to publish and distribute your own magazine, but you do NOT have the right to demand that an arbitrary magazine publishes your essays.
You're so wrong. So fucking wrong. I'm the publisher not the ISP. This is like saying that the publisher is the company giveing me collocated space on a server I paid for. Or even if I didn't didn't. Whatever the deal is it's my server
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"Computers should be
1. The net is just a connection end of story. It has no magic of its own. It's the people that count.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
2. If the novelty doesn't wear of businesses will never grow into healthy long lasting companies always just another fad coming through.
3. Real net users don't go on vacation on the net. They milk it for all it can offer. Like tutorials on every programming language that exists or cookbooks.
Can't we move past the hype already?
"Computers should be
can be undone, as well.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
Fool! hehe.
I have just added several signed values that equal 10 (note signed means may include signs).
Find the values to decrypt a message that you're not to open till xmas.
"Computers should be
Well It's about time people got a clue. Privacy isn't about shame and vice. It's about being recognized as an individual (which newsjerks falsely equate with uniqueness). It's about having personal control over your time, lifestyle, and your FRREEDOM of ASSOCIATION. Laws are made to deal with exceptions, not to tell the whole world what to do.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
Consider the case of Harrison Bergeron (Vonnegut rules): He has an implant that prevents him from concentrating whenever he has illegal thoughts.
Now say everything you do or say is monitored. Do you really think the game stops there? Remember we're talking about humans being the monitors. Paranoia doesn't die when a particular fear is resolved. Paranoia just shifts its focus.
Sure, monitoring all phone calls will satisfy the majority of people working 40hrs a week completely detached scared to death of the world around them.
It will satisfy them about a month, if the news stations could abstain from playing the fear card (NBC and Y2K ring a bell?). Most likely that'll be a week.
Next you'll find that people are still afraid because the problem hasn't been solved and they know it. They know subconsciously that all that has happened is that they treated symptoms of fear and security agencies have made a killing.
So what next? Speculative profiling. Gateway thoughts (similar to that farce the gateway drug).
Attitude adjustment counseling.
So what's wrong with checking up on people? IT'S RUDE. It doesn't merely show a lack of class, but also it shows a lack of respect. You are a permanent suspect from the day you're born. You have no dignity. But the worst part is this:
IT IS DISRUPTIVE. Expressing an idea, producing a work, making a product, and being able to have stress-free periods to do so requires that you are not interrupted. It requires that you are not spending 90% of your time second guessing yourself wondering whether your work violates some vaguely defined votemagnet law.
It gets so ridiculous that such harrassment can be used in place of actually infringing on people other rights because it is so disruptive it hindrance in the same way as actually infringing on their rights.
"Computers should be
I'm curious how this is dishonest. Unless every damned distro is dishonest. The insurance package is a bit far fetched, though as the cost of a blank CD is trivial. Anyhow it's unnecessary, you can make money off the GPL period. No undocumented APIs required :) All the GPL does is make the market extremely competeitive. Now, hands up, tell me who wouldn't like to see the software market evolve already. ... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
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top. Not that I haven't enjoyed said silliness, I just think this one should be up at the top.
... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
As for the Anti-religious nature of most techies these days. So what? Religion is a way to cheat at sprituality knowing you'll never have any substance but everyone else will think you do.
"Computers should be
who cares anyhow. ... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.
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You must not work in IT do you.
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Gee that was helpful.
As a matter of fact I do. And since I do, I know that this can be very easily automated.
I have half a mind to put together a demonstration as soon as I get myself a CD Writer.
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