Well back in 1995 many search engines thought they were going to get by on subscription services. It didn't work so they switched to banner ads. Banner ads not working and switching subscription services? I dunno.
On the other hand, services like that Yahoo! offers a mailbox space upgrade to 25Mb for $15 a year are okay.
I have worked at high-tech companies (silicon valley startups) since I was 14 (legal age to work). I'm not going to tell you about myself but it is partly because I know a friggin lot of stuff. It's not about what you know though, it's about who you know. To work that young you need a flexible job so you need to find some connections to people who can hire you for odd hours. At 15 you need your mother to drive you to work probably. Emphasize that you want to learn even if you are the only one who has any idea how to set up a firewall. McDonald's pays people our age minimum wage so don't expect much more than that. When you know more people, have more experience and have references, then you can move on. Also as it has been noted throughout, if you do work for your school you can point out that you have experience oustide hacking around on the web. Or even better would be to deny you did work for the school and start with odd jobs for people you know. Fix computers, set up little networks, etc.
You're also not bound to a contract if you were drunk when you agreed to it. So maybe if you got drunk, agreed to it, then mumbled instructions to someone across the room to reverse engineer the protocol, which is a legal means of making a compatible system, then they wrote a spec and gave it to someone to write the code for it, it would be okay. Right?
But then the evil corporation would be able to take your code, change it and sell it to you, infringing on your rights and all that good stuff. Let's not get into that though.
- The part of the DMCA that makes the ISP not accountable for serving your copy of css_descramble.c is a Good Thing.
- The judge said in papers previously posted here that they would need to prove the method for descrambling this was obtained by unreasonable means. Reverse engineering was reasonable means according to him.
And of course the guy himself didn't write the code and I didn't understand that he was charged with anything even.
But that still doesn't mean you shouldn't still be posting copies of the code on your school builliten boards.
Which file system? The one in the pre-Rn series, which was BeOS 8 or so, had a database-like file system. That was over 3 years ago though. The one in BeOS after that was quite different, the journaling file system or whatever. I've been out of that loop for a while..
Having developed extensively on LinuxPPC and mkLinux, BeOS, MacOS as well as you-name-it unix for x86 and Solaris/sparc I can tell you MacOS is the same speed or marginally quicker running computationally large programs than Linux or BeOS. Really.
Windows may be an awful kludge on x86 but it isn't so for MacOS.
mkLinux has been around for a long time. Apple couldn't even support its own systems though. It flopped kinda. But this was back before free software was cool. I think their BSD focus for that slot is a better idea though.
The G4 processor isn't theirs anyway, it's the Motorola 7400 which you can get all the specs you want on. Since the switch to the PCI bus (in 1995?) their systems have used OpenFirmware which supposedly (it was buggy as far as compatibility) was to make it possible for other OS's, such as for a while hints of Solaris and Windows NT as well as the free unixen. This has been covered in other recent discussions though.
A fairly unpublicized website mentioning how to get Linux running on your mac is not a marketing toy. Compare IBM which makes servers that run on the same processor. NetBSD also runs on Power Macs, as well as their Darwin OS. They aren't selling more computers because they run Linux. Their MacOS X Server even competes with these possibilities (sort of).
But don't start your own. It might sound like fun but you won't have time to do any of the fun part, you'll spend it all trying to get money and hire people and deal with all of the tiny little snags like the broken water cooler. I suppose it depends on what your idea is though.
When I read the DMCA it sounded like, in some part at least, a Good Thing.
One part of it shifts the blame for distributing copyrighted material from the ISP to the originator. Imagine the insanity of constantly cancelled accounts and snooping possibilities that could be necessary without this.
Is that copying stuff will make it to the average idiot. Someone will always DeCSS or whatever. The average idiot doesn't have two tape decks or two VCR's next to eachother to dupe stuff.
MP3's are laking it to the average idiot now, compared to three years ago when there was hardly a player for windows yet. The million screaming girlies who bought their copy of ricky martin didn't download the mp3. Someday soon they might though. for a lot of them it's still "mp3 sucks. it takes 40 minutes to download one song." The screaming girls control the record industry and the record industry pretends it has authority over the market.
There was a box in Scientific American this month that linked the downward trend in violence to legalized abortion. I think that violence, not entirely unaffected by media attention, is becoming more socially unacceptable and violence we normally would have normally passed off as bad childhood (not that my opinion and the curious attempt to link the two figures are related) is now from the evils of society. As for guns and violence: even I go out and blast holes in paper targets and clay pigoens but I can't stand to play Quake. As for the extremety of violence, you got me.. probably not thought out attempts for attention (note the recent one that didn't know why he did it, and a previous recent incident where the guy after a few shots started crying). Of course we could always blame radical ideas found on the internet..
Before i thought Katz's articles were hokey, but this is plain dumb.
Corporations are in no way bigger than the government.. The largest company here, General Motors, took in $178 billion last year which is dwarfed by the government's $1,721 billion last year. Microsoft has only recently crossed $10 billion. Intel $25 billion. IBM $78 billion.
You can't be scared of knowledge; someday someone is going to map the entire thing. Now it would obviously be better if it is public knowledge instead of an evil corporation tinkering with it all.
No way are any major implications of this going to errupt overnight. We won't see armies of Bill Gates clones running around anytime soon, nor are we going to have viruses to specifically wipe out Linux programmers. We'll deal with it when it comes.
We have to remember the government doesn't (yet) have total control and in many cases, not really much at all. Our internet is too abstract to make silly rules like who can see what. If it's filtered one way there are a billion of ways to get at it another way..
If DeCSS is on a server in Antarctica, what can the motion picture association do? Influence the government funding the outpost there? Try to get the lines cut? This simply doesn't work when there are a million copies everywhere.
Nobody wants someone telling them what to look at online, and because nobody can actually do this from the top down, it takes the end-user (you) to agree to it. Otherwise you can get around any means of restricting information.
Tear gas can't be lobbed at millions of angry netizens.
it's silly when time is wasted dwelling on the code review policies of the freebsd-core or how a license that grants near unlimited use short of credit where credit's due is too restrictive to people who take to needing several pages of terms or some goofy comments from people we all know
what positive impact will discussions like this one or this one have on the future of computer software?
The real problem is that the people who created the problem, the ones writing books and giving lecture series, will have to find new work. And the newspapers and evening news will have to find a new ongoing story. I think we need a poll for the next big thing. Eurodollar? Abnormal weather patterns?
I wonder how many of you have read the GPL.. it requires interactive programs to state that the software is licensed under the GPL.. an advertising clause couldn't be worse as they seem to both serve the same purpose.. other than that the two licenses have very different purposes.. one is to ensure your code is free and remains open and to prevent inclusion into anything that isn't under the same terms.. which isn't a really bad idea but eliminates commerical possibility.. which makes it "free" in the freedom of some unnamed software developer but restricted still.. strangely the other provides the obvious copyright and disclaimer of warranty and beyond that is nearly in the public domain.. it has been written and the author probably had fun doing it so anyone can use it for anything they want.. and previously credit was to be given where credit is due. one is sort of a passive "free" and the other is an active "free" but some would say intrusive.. also another fairly popular free software package released under a license similar to the one used by BSD which is Apache.. in the case there i would think that style of (non)restriction serves it quite well
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Well back in 1995 many search engines thought they were going to get by on subscription services. It didn't work so they switched to banner ads. Banner ads not working and switching subscription services? I dunno.
On the other hand, services like that Yahoo! offers a mailbox space upgrade to 25Mb for $15 a year are okay.
The U.S. gave up on a project to blast a harbor into park of Alaska using nuclear explosives.
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http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/VirtualClassroom/Ch
Yes that butterfly flapping its wings in China has an effect on the thunderstorms a month later in New York.
yup
I have worked at high-tech companies (silicon valley startups) since I was 14 (legal age to work). I'm not going to tell you about myself but it is partly because I know a friggin lot of stuff. It's not about what you know though, it's about who you know. To work that young you need a flexible job so you need to find some connections to people who can hire you for odd hours. At 15 you need your mother to drive you to work probably. Emphasize that you want to learn even if you are the only one who has any idea how to set up a firewall. McDonald's pays people our age minimum wage so don't expect much more than that. When you know more people, have more experience and have references, then you can move on. Also as it has been noted throughout, if you do work for your school you can point out that you have experience oustide hacking around on the web. Or even better would be to deny you did work for the school and start with odd jobs for people you know. Fix computers, set up little networks, etc.
You're also not bound to a contract if you were drunk when you agreed to it. So maybe if you got drunk, agreed to it, then mumbled instructions to someone across the room to reverse engineer the protocol, which is a legal means of making a compatible system, then they wrote a spec and gave it to someone to write the code for it, it would be okay. Right?
Nanosaur is just a goofy demo game really. Not a reason to buy a computer.
But then the evil corporation would be able to take your code, change it and sell it to you, infringing on your rights and all that good stuff. Let's not get into that though.
Oh yeah.
Remember the GNU definition of "free" software wouldn't be possible without being able to enforce copyrights.
Remember that.
- The part of the DMCA that makes the ISP not accountable for serving your copy of css_descramble.c is a Good Thing.
- The judge said in papers previously posted here that they would need to prove the method for descrambling this was obtained by unreasonable means. Reverse engineering was reasonable means according to him.
And of course the guy himself didn't write the code and I didn't understand that he was charged with anything even.
But that still doesn't mean you shouldn't still be posting copies of the code on your school builliten boards.
Which file system? The one in the pre-Rn series, which was BeOS 8 or so, had a database-like file system. That was over 3 years ago though. The one in BeOS after that was quite different, the journaling file system or whatever. I've been out of that loop for a while..
Having developed extensively on LinuxPPC and mkLinux, BeOS, MacOS as well as you-name-it unix for x86 and Solaris/sparc I can tell you MacOS is the same speed or marginally quicker running computationally large programs than Linux or BeOS. Really.
Windows may be an awful kludge on x86 but it isn't so for MacOS.
mkLinux has been around for a long time. Apple couldn't even support its own systems though. It flopped kinda. But this was back before free software was cool. I think their BSD focus for that slot is a better idea though.
The G4 processor isn't theirs anyway, it's the Motorola 7400 which you can get all the specs you want on. Since the switch to the PCI bus (in 1995?) their systems have used OpenFirmware which supposedly (it was buggy as far as compatibility) was to make it possible for other OS's, such as for a while hints of Solaris and Windows NT as well as the free unixen. This has been covered in other recent discussions though.
A fairly unpublicized website mentioning how to get Linux running on your mac is not a marketing toy. Compare IBM which makes servers that run on the same processor. NetBSD also runs on Power Macs, as well as their Darwin OS. They aren't selling more computers because they run Linux. Their MacOS X Server even competes with these possibilities (sort of).
Work for a startup. It's way cool.
But don't start your own. It might sound like fun but you won't have time to do any of the fun part, you'll spend it all trying to get money and hire people and deal with all of the tiny little snags like the broken water cooler. I suppose it depends on what your idea is though.
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Proving they obtained the code improperly would be pretty difficult considering this, no? What could they do really?
When I read the DMCA it sounded like, in some part at least, a Good Thing.
One part of it shifts the blame for distributing copyrighted material from the ISP to the originator. Imagine the insanity of constantly cancelled accounts and snooping possibilities that could be necessary without this.
I dunno there were a lot of chicks playing games at the last computer show I was at.
Is that copying stuff will make it to the average idiot. Someone will always DeCSS or whatever. The average idiot doesn't have two tape decks or two VCR's next to eachother to dupe stuff.
MP3's are laking it to the average idiot now, compared to three years ago when there was hardly a player for windows yet. The million screaming girlies who bought their copy of ricky martin didn't download the mp3. Someday soon they might though. for a lot of them it's still "mp3 sucks. it takes 40 minutes to download one song." The screaming girls control the record industry and the record industry pretends it has authority over the market.
Do you think the open source thing is kinda lame and missing the point?
Who is it that comes to work with you?
There was a box in Scientific American this month that linked the downward trend in violence to legalized abortion. I think that violence, not entirely unaffected by media attention, is becoming more socially unacceptable and violence we normally would have normally passed off as bad childhood (not that my opinion and the curious attempt to link the two figures are related) is now from the evils of society. As for guns and violence: even I go out and blast holes in paper targets and clay pigoens but I can't stand to play Quake. As for the extremety of violence, you got me.. probably not thought out attempts for attention (note the recent one that didn't know why he did it, and a previous recent incident where the guy after a few shots started crying). Of course we could always blame radical ideas found on the internet..
Before i thought Katz's articles were hokey, but this is plain dumb.
.. The largest company here, General Motors, took in $178 billion last year which is dwarfed by the government's $1,721 billion last year. Microsoft has only recently crossed $10 billion. Intel $25 billion. IBM $78 billion.
Corporations are in no way bigger than the government
You can't be scared of knowledge; someday someone is going to map the entire thing. Now it would obviously be better if it is public knowledge instead of an evil corporation tinkering with it all.
No way are any major implications of this going to errupt overnight. We won't see armies of Bill Gates clones running around anytime soon, nor are we going to have viruses to specifically wipe out Linux programmers. We'll deal with it when it comes.
We have to remember the government doesn't (yet) have total control and in many cases, not really much at all. Our internet is too abstract to make silly rules like who can see what. If it's filtered one way there are a billion of ways to get at it another way..
If DeCSS is on a server in Antarctica, what can the motion picture association do? Influence the government funding the outpost there? Try to get the lines cut? This simply doesn't work when there are a million copies everywhere.
Nobody wants someone telling them what to look at online, and because nobody can actually do this from the top down, it takes the end-user (you) to agree to it. Otherwise you can get around any means of restricting information.
Tear gas can't be lobbed at millions of angry netizens.
is an advantage of commercial software
it's silly when time is wasted dwelling on the code review policies of the freebsd-core or how a license that grants near unlimited use short of credit where credit's due is too restrictive to people who take to needing several pages of terms or some goofy comments from people we all know
what positive impact will discussions like this one or this one have on the future of computer software?
The real problem is that the people who created the problem, the ones writing books and giving lecture series, will have to find new work. And the newspapers and evening news will have to find a new ongoing story. I think we need a poll for the next big thing. Eurodollar? Abnormal weather patterns?
... keil
all that i've known sounded like they had nothing better to do
If you read the previous post http://slashdot.org /article.pl?sid=99/09/11/1418247&threshold=6 the article says
..he would still use FreeBSD if he could do it over again..
I wonder how many of you have read the GPL .. it requires interactive programs to state that the software is licensed under the GPL .. an advertising clause couldn't be worse as they seem to both serve the same purpose .. other than that the two licenses have very different purposes .. one is to ensure your code is free and remains open and to prevent inclusion into anything that isn't under the same terms .. which isn't a really bad idea but eliminates commerical possibility .. which makes it "free" in the freedom of some unnamed software developer but restricted still .. strangely the other provides the obvious copyright and disclaimer of warranty and beyond that is nearly in the public domain .. it has been written and the author probably had fun doing it so anyone can use it for anything they want .. and previously credit was to be given where credit is due. one is sort of a passive "free" and the other is an active "free" but some would say intrusive.. also another fairly popular free software package released under a license similar to the one used by BSD which is Apache .. in the case there i would think that style of (non)restriction serves it quite well