(Score:1) by NSA_Guy on 10:22 3rd February, 2000 MDT (User Info)
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Hello this is NSA chief of covert operations Bill McHansen
Damn you figured out our little scheme to assassinate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H um I mean talk to the members of slashdot. However we will eventually achieve our objective. Good day.
The person who can build with the LEGOs would not be on par with the person with the knowledge, they would be playing a different game all together.
Maybe so but the goal is still the same. To get into college.
There is a different kind of intelligence at work when a person uses LEGOs as opposed to memorizing material. The whole point of the LEGOs is to level the playing field for people who didn't have the resources to learn the material that someone else had to luxury of having access to or the time to learn it.
Funny I can take the material that I supposedly "memorized" and apply it in various situations (such as posting to slashdot) without just reciting the things chapter and verse.
Could someone please tell me in the late 20th century early 21st century in America how exactly can one *not* get a HS education? Maybe if they have a severe series of operations or maybe they are physically beaten up on the way to school then it might prevent this. However even the poorest student in the USA has some local school where he/she can get access to education. Now if the school sucks or dosn't teach right isn't the issue. It's wheather you can *learn* from teh HS and get a diploma. Technically if you get D-s all the way through HS there are still colleges that will take you. As far as time well why do you even do anything? People in the late 20th century seem to think that they have less and less time then people in earlier periods of history. As I recall in the early 20th century we had people who really didn't have a whole lot of time because they were working to death. Quite frankly I think such a hellish time was absolutely scary. I don't think HS students are so pressed for time (you really don't need a job at all in HS) that they can't even read a book or do some homework.
Let's face it, life isn't all peachy everywhere for everyone. People are put at a disadvatage sometimes and should not be denied opportunities for it. This is the basis of using LEGOs. It's an opportunity for certain people who are disadvantaged to prove that they can hack it in school. You can't honestly expect ghetto kids to stop dodging bullets to learn trig or expect some kid in the swamps to study poetry or whatnot while he waits for his pops to beat his ass because he is drunk again. The LEGO thing makes things more fair because they are blocks that can go together in a way to make something.
You know people must think that everywhere at every time that people absolutely *HAVE* to live where they are. If I live in complete and desperate poverty or are dodging bullets or what not I can always get up off my ass and actually leave. Hell if I am homeless or a bum I can always leave. People just don't realize that there are alternatives. Maybe if say a group of well armed thugs decided to take out the little ol' gang members perhaps we could actually get some peace. I mean they want to threaten others why don't we threaten them?
Basically you are saying that because johnny is too busy not getting killed or maimed in some way that he can't learn? Exactly how many of these cases are actually happening? I would like some reliable figures that indicate that the use of legos and alternative testing measures are actually an effective measure to giving these people an equal chance. If I can't do basic algebra how can I do say entry level calculus or say even good programming. The concepts of varibales and equations are basic to programming and without the ability to actually know these things I think that you can't do it well.
My point is if you are bright, but for some reason unable to learn the things that you and I have had the opportunity to learn, the LEGO test is basic enough to let a person like this demonstrate that he is smart enough to go to college.
So colleges now become the centers of remedial education. These people will undoubtally end up taking level 0900 classes or equivelent and not starting out in freshmen level classes like the rest of the people.
Don't knock it. I did well on the SATs and I think that it counts for something. Let's face it: you can bullshit your way through it to some degree, but the difference between someone with a 1100 and someone with a 1500 is pretty big. Granted, it's hardly the only measure of aptitude or potential, and is of limited worth to anyone except those who did well (and get to brag:). But I had seriously mediocre grades in HS, but my SAT and SAT II scores got me into a highly-ranked school, so I can't complain.
Ok that seems reasonable. The tests are to test general knowledge and such. If you can prove that you know something that's a good thing.
But you're arguing with slashdot-terminal, the uber-right wing fuck who couldn't possibly see beyond the whiteness of his own skin.
I think that was uncalled for. Let's get things straight ok?
1. How do you know I am white? Have you actually traced my identity to an actual person? I actually have taken great pains to distance myself from an actual identity.
2. I don't see how advocating the current system actually hurts anyone including minorities. The only people who really get hurt are people who don't like tests. I am actually a test phobe. I hate tests with a passion. However once you get into college of any sort (even a crummy one) you have to take tests all the time. So why not get over your phobia now.
3. Are you a person who is non-white? Can you show that I have callously disregarded you in any way. Considering I have never seen you either I think that I can't even prove you aren't white.
If you don't like my arguments then fine. However I grew up in reality where tests were the norm and studying was something that was expected. I will not allow the world to move on with what I perceive to be misguided dumbing down of the curriculum. However if people want to make it trivial for people like me to succeede while I put in less actual work then fine. I really don't care. I can actually spend half or less the time I devote to studying and staying up late at night to get all my work done. In other words no skin off my nose at all.
I know many people who can build with legos AND have shown a knowledge of "the" material through a standardized test.
Ok I should have been a little clearer. I meant to say that if all you can do is build with legos then that is a poor indicator of intelligence. I have a younger brother who was able to play with legos in the 4th grade. Does that mean he can get into college? I didn't think so.
I hope people respond to it in the nice way that they should, and agree that this is a positive step, helping minorities and the disadvantaged as it is intended to. I know that Mensa certainly has 'culture fair' test which rather than requiring a good knowledge of the subtleties of English or Maths as many IQ tests require, uses spatial awareness as the basis instead - in a direct attempt not just to get the stereotyped arrogant British toffs that might be the only ones to get good scores on old style tests.
A little bit of grammer check (this really gets on my nerves) 'maths' is not necessarily proper grammer. If I want to talk about math in the plural form I say just math or mathmetics. How exactly if I actually *read* the books does my race have anything to do with getting accepted to college. If I am black does that make me unable to learn? If I am "disadvantaged" how does it prevent access to information? I was rather poor through my childhood and was still able to gain access to public libraries (ever heard of this new thing called the "free" library started in the 19th century and Carnagie). Somehow I doubt that everyone and their mother wants to get into MENSA anyway. It might look good as just another feather in your cap but that dosn't mean much.
I'm all for alternate testing techniques, especially if the courses that this is being used as a requirement for are technique based rather than courses that do require prior knowledge (of literature, for example).
We really do not have that much of a problem at least in the US of getting information to people. The public school environment will at least produce a basic level of information that can be used to create more information and generally be allowed to give a better result. Alternate testing techniques could be employed under the ADA or something similar however college is usually for people who went to HS. High School education or GEDs are not exclusive as they were in times past.
I really think that standards are declining if people use legos to get into college. I actually wanted to take the ACT test to get into college and I feel that it was worth it. I can't realistically believe that anyone who can build with legos can actually be on par with someone who has actually shown a knowledge of the material through a standardized test.
One thing to keep in mind (regarding old SF vs. new SF) is that fact that the basic nature of people does not change (just take a look at history). It doesn't really matter whether people are running around in reflective space suits and wielding death rays or fusion-powered armor and hauling plasma cannons; the technology is just there to help tell the story (whatever that story may be), which is invariably about people.
Well I think it matters. If you look at things like star trek their society is fundamentally different. Do you happen to see any bums on Earth? Are there panhandlers outside Starfleet Academy? No. People work for the hell of it and to gain status. I think this is fundamentally different from what we do today. Some of the ideas that I actually look at are taken from science fiction. What I generally don't like is where we take good ideas and put them in a package that makes it seem like crap. Suppose I get a car with a superior engine, 1,000 miles to the gallon, can achieve speeds of 200 Mph and go from 0 - 60Mph in say 2.3 seconds. This car will also run off of urine or almost anything that is put in the tank (including sugar). No suppose I take this an put it into a pinto's chasis. Now do you like the car as much? Will you buy it if all you see is the outside of the car? First impressions matter. Human nature can change based on what the human has. If I can say do something a little more efficiently then I will be able to have more time to ponder the great questions.
But predictions are, in my opinion, what science fiction is all about! As I said above, I generally view the technology as an aid for the story. A story itself is about people. Ever read a work of SF (or any literature, for that matter) that didn't have any characters?:-)
Predictions are nice however not all of them are acurate. A great deal of the future concepts of what society will be like are crappy. Here is a popular one:
Man builds intelligent cyborgs. Cyborgs serve man for a time. Eventually cyborgs say "fsck this" and decide to kick ass. Man is destroyed, forced underground, or enslaved.
Now we can see that even with the possibility that cyborgs are strong they are most likely not invincible. Humans obviously will not invest trillions of $$ without control.
Modern SF is every bit as "preachy" as classic SF. It's just a different kind of preaching. It's the change in the zeitgeist, the prevailing philosophy of the time, that makes it seem more hokey or preachy now than it may have 50 years ago. But it's good to read the stuff that's stood the test of time; there's a reason it did stand.
Does anyone have any opensource sf (ala gutenberg) out there? I know that probably Edward Belemay's "Looking Backward" (supposedly how a time traveler from the 19th century ends up in the year 2000) is most likely out there are there others?
I believe a good solutoin for this problem is the "cached" version Google keeps in his own database... i always try to access the real link first.... but the backup is on much occasions the only solution....
Here here! Now that is what I call an inovation. I can't tell you how many times this has saved me.
The vast majority of people who use search engines like altavista don't want to index the whole web. They just want to index either their web sites or some database content. For instance, my company builds intranet libraries for financial services companies. Part of the work involves receiving large feeds of stories from various sources, and our customers want to do free text searches on those stories. We use oracle for our main database, but oracle is very bad at solving this particular problem, so we need to use another database (such as the alta vista search engine) to do the text indexing.
So your saying that essentially the main function that this particular things was created for will not be used? Also that most of the things released under the GPL and various other liscences are usually associated with business applications? I am sorry but a great deal of the "practal" applications seem frightfully dull. Is there a way that a truly interesting use of this search engine can be utilized for something a little bit more relaxed such as say analyzing content on the web and creating a better series of topologigraphic maps of the internet? Now *that* would be cool. Transfering the data to an ascii environment would be even cooler.
I'm amused how in English, "a fraction of" implies "a fraction less than zero", when of course "a fraction of" could be, for example, "eight thirds".
I don't think that's right. A fraction of (since I do speak basically only English and it is my native tongue) refers to a part of. I have never heard that it means less than zero anywhere. Plus anything less than zero is negative and there are not many ways you can have negative quantities in terms of something like a dictionary unless the dictionary had a method of erasing memory engrams.
The article doesn't mention that Altavista is going to open source theit source code. It says that the source code will be given to applicants who can present a "real" web site they are running. It would be great news if the source code would truly be GP-licensed or whatever OS license model Altavista would choose, but I doubt they will do that. Also remember that the search engine that you can obtain from Alta Vista is not the same as the one that's running their web site. It used to be downloadable before, and my information is that it does not scale as good as the AltaVista.com web page search engine does.
Another little piece of info regarding the use of a search engine. Basically you need a large ammount of disk space (on the order of terabytes) to actually get a search engine up and running. You need that database or else when I want to look at ancient Zulu fingernail clippings I will not find them in your search engine. This really will not empower many people to do anything special at all.
Yes, a lot of people have heard of this guy. MOST of us geeks have! Sorry you haven't, your missing out on some great writing and your life is poorer for it's absence.
Actually to back up the original poster I have never actually heard of this guy either. Did he create anything new recently? What was his last major work?
The great masters of Science Fiction have been gone for a century now. Of course, they're not gone, they are exactly as present in the literary world as they were when they were still alive. No great books have up and disappeared from the earth that I can remember.
The poster is refering to the use of new talent in the area. I am sure that Win 3.11 is a cool shell/sub-operating system but that dosn't mean there is any quality development on it. How about kernel 0.99 or so? Debian beta 0.98? I didn't think so. Generally the lack of new talent kills a medium.
=============================================== Ok now that I am protected I have a little critique on this post.
We're losing all the old great masters of science fiction. I guess this is inevitable, but modern science fiction just isn't the same.
I would say that it's a little more realistic in terms of what humanity will actually do. Come on. Do you really think that peole will actually go around in flying saucers and wear crappy reflective space suits and kill aliens will the "Evil Death Ray of Doom"(tm)? I think the recent incarnations of Star Trek and such are far more realistic then people who actually believed that there was a whole civilization on mars. Ever read some of the stuff Bradbury created? If people genuinely believe that science will make people like that they have to take a step back and look at themselves. What early science fiction is more of is just like myths and legends. Generally these things are obviously not real and have no truth to them they are just teaching some kind of early prophecy or moral. I look to science fiction to see how realistically we can achieve various elements. Having people in reflective spandex just dosn't cut it.
I think modern writers can learn something from the Great Old Ones.;) In the Campbell era, there were genuinely new ideas, examination of social issues without being preachy or satirical, great writing and (oddly absent from many modern writers) a great knowledge of science. You can find pieces of that puzzle everywhere now, but the specialization leaves us with few authors who try to be great in everything.
In the beginning everything is new. You remember the joke about the chicken crossing the road? Well at one time in history it was really knee slapping funny too. However we have things like cliches and things like that and because of this we have to do things differently or rish looking like a fool. Maybe these guys are equivelent to Mel the programmer of bygone days who wrote everything in machine code and did it better than people do now. Maybe these guys were better than we think. However time they are a chinging. Generally I want something that dosn't think that PCs are not a reality that only the 5 richest kings of Europe can have them, that humans will turn into mutated creatures and live underground, etc. In short I want a picture of the mid to far future that I like.
So while we're mourning, and catching up our anthology collections, let's think about where we want science fiction to be going.
Something that isn't so far flung that it makes Santa and the Tooth Fairt, The Easter Bunny and The Great Pumpkin seem to be fact. I want more use of technology and less reliance on unrealistic social and political predictions of the future.
I have to say it but if all data is copyright of someone or something else and is intellectual property then all data will have to be redone with various research having to be reexamined. This is compeltely unacceptable. Is there a good enough database tool that would allow an individual to get a large quantity of data say now before any potential laws are actually passed and then have it become open sourced?
Why didn't you simply create the source in secret or using a forged identity or perhaps an alias? If one wishes for something to spread in some way the usual method to do so is to allow the talent to not be destroyed or diluted in any way. My question did you consider the possibilities about breaking this encryption scheme and what kind of response you would have generated?
I am wondering about the actual price of this thing. I would really like to see a cheap computer that could attract people in my boat and not just high end people with thousands of dollars. Will this just be another toy of the ecconomic elite?
It angers me that Slashdot posts suggestions to "grab it while you can", in reference to patent violations. If a patent is truly violated, I would hope that any developers out there would honor that patent and discontinue their [potentially illegal] use of the code.
That's nice so mathmetical notions of creating a good expression are impossible to use. So what happens then is that you have to use something that you develop that would be crappy and not worth doing. The author makes thousands and you can't even hold a candle to them. Nice.
To actually say that some idiot promoting foolish slogans to get people to easily remember soda is foolish. What is more interesting is the interface designs that the syndicate used to have a massive monitoring network from all the major vending sites for soda and their product. Also what was brought up in those series of things was the use of a human/machine interface that was employed to transmit data from the monitering party to the individual who was networked. Quite interesting. Has any research been done about machine/human interfaces for say transmitting simple words or vould sounds to the person't vocal center of their brain?
Really quite interesting that people would be commenting on a complex that I think that most slashdotters would abhor and usually keep a wide bearth away from. I can think of only one application of anything geek related in this and that is the use of computers and various graphics programs to create the commercials. Aside from that everything else is just bad. 1. Sports -- generally the goals of sports and computing are opposite of each other. Want proof how many professional athleates have ever written a working program that actually did anything useful? I don't think anyone could really name one at all. 2. Commercials in general. Numberous times I have actually seen quotes that have indicated that television is a medium which is used as an opiate for the masses and is generally one of the vehicles by which we approach a totalitarian state. My question in this case is exactly why is this something that is good? 3. The super bowl. I couldn't think of a bigger waste of a peson's time than to be in front of a television when an event of little political or social importance is going on. Is the victor of the super bowl actually going to become the unquestioned lord and master of the world? No. Does football have anything to do with anything relating in even a smal;l way with computers. 4 Advertising in general. Advertising is not a field that lends itself to openness and the use of fair tactics of any sort. If you disbelieve this just look at how deceptive advertisements for automobiles are. Some bozo is driving his car along a mountain road or along a track at speeds well over the legal limit or some red neck is taking his 4x4 through the most unimproved area he can find and that is supposed to make an impression on people (and hey it's not technically illegal because they have little notices in 1pt fine sans serif font at the bottom of the screen). If this is the direction that the technical community is taking I want out before we have the next release of windows or linux to be codenamed Buckaroo or something equally corny. 5. Taco? Well this is a little suprise but I guess evolution can work in reverse can't it? Most humans usually decrease their mental abilities after age 20 or so and a general atrophy of physical and psychochemical elements also occurs about then so I guess it's not that much of a suprise?
The above comments are not necessarily flames or anything else however does sporting minutiae such as the super bowl actually count as something that is technically noteworthy? Theoretically if the entire human race is enslaved by reptilian creatures from the planet zoron it shouldn't appear on slashdot unless they make the drivers that run their spaceships opensource and run on linux. To sum up this little post: sports and commercials relating to sporting events are far removed from the sphere of technical influence and necessity of the part of the human race that actually counts that it is almost laughable. Does anyone have any hard facts about the actual image hardware/software that was used? Did anything actually revolutionary that is technically important actually go down then? PS. I make an offering of a dead cow to the first god that represses the posting of the actual results from the super bowl from slashdot.
How can they say that the GUI's are hard to use? Sounds like it was written by someone who has never seen XFree86. It's almost as simple to use as Windows or MacOS.
Actually what makes it hard is the ammount of system resources your typical program is using. Take an example I went from version 1.1.10 of the gimp 1.1.14 and suddently more and more memory was being sucked into the program. Wheras a perfectly good program had once run on my machine 16MB or physical ram and 20MB of virtual the machine needed even more. So now I have something like 38virtual just to make sure the memory dosn't just magically run out.
If people would just optimeze the development the UI could be more user friendly and still be interesting.
Ha! I'm glad you read this board. Was beginning to think it was filled entirely with the clueless.
No I am not clueless. When discussing man one is usually directed to the most ancient examples whereby one can gain a better understanding of the current or cases where desperation is the norm.
I certainly have, and I've been pleased with the general results. Larger, more proactive government that offers more services to its citizens (and despite what right-wingers in disguise like Bill Clinton will tell you, the era of big government is most definitely not over by any stretch of the imagination.) I believe that we will see socialized health care within the next 20 years, which will be a Good Thing (TM). In addition, the iron grip that the totalitarian right wing has held on social issues has been steadily dissolving since the 60s. This is another Good Thing (TM).
Well since you know so much about America it is worthy to point out that in fact Bill Clinton's first attempt to push a new health care bill failed in his first term. Another thing that you do not understand is that ideas of what is right and wrong fade and ebb over time. All we have to have is another little thing like the great depression to get everyone interested in order and stability and all the freedoms that have supposedly been gained over the years will be slowly taken away in favor of getting things better. We are actually getting closer to a period of intollerance in our affairs.
And this is just America. I note that you conveniently ignore the rest of the world, most notably Europe, where benevolent socialism is in and heartless practices and ancient superstitions are out.
And you ignore that policies that make a country powerful: population, land, and power. We in the USA are concerned with China because concievably if it were an even fight they could do serious damage if they really wanted to. That's why all the little fuss over the stoler nuclear warhead designes for the recent warheads. European population growth is actually decreasing and I think will be headed for negative growth over the next few years. America and Asia are the hot spots for people and power in the next few years. Socialism may be in now however socialism was in reaction to what was percieved as a problem. The minute a new problem is found you will find a new solution no matter how extreme it is.
An interesting aside. You say "ancient practices and ancient superstitions" are out? Well let's look at that one now. Major hub for Christianity (that's what I assume you are refering to) major Cathedrials and monuments in France, Endland, and Germany. Oh and all that little pagan stuff that is so en vouge with a lot of people (which is largely superstitious and very ancient usually what people did before Christianity came along). This would mean that ancient superstitions are actually in within Europe not just in other places. Unless all your churches are along the line of God Almighty's Church of Healin' and Miracles founded by an ex-Steel worker in Kansas or some strange group of people who think that wearing their shoes on their heads is really neato.
Heh. Hardly.:-)
Actually if you want to kill a bill in the Senate one method is to attach riders onto the bill. One of the methods I heard about was that people would put a clause onto the bill that says that the Communist part is the only political part in the united states. Guess what happens to the bill? Yup gone finished fineato. People want to live in a way that does not create misery and the best way is to have money with which to exchange for goods at a fair exchange rate. This is largely how the world works. People don't want inflation and they don't want marginal lives. How do leftist policies actually change what people basically want and satisify them?
That's nice, but completely meaningless. Count me out.
Not necessarily because having money is one of the best ways of creating a positive environment (at least in part) for a family. I know. Having money eliminates at least the basic problems of crime, disease, hunger, want, etc. And for most people who are in the USA those "ancient superstitions" are actually a good way to satisfy all the major higher level problems. People can also study in college and gain the technical abilities that they need without even encountering leftism as anything that is necessary to learn. People who are doing things in technical areas are usually not the type to read War and Peace and the works of Karl Marx.
The democratic socialist movement is making huge advances in membership. Although I'm sure that you would prefer the old, inhuman system of randite capitalism, some of us prefer to take this imperfect system and kick out the door where it belongs. Face it, not everyone buys into your notions of the benefits of capitalism with which people like you are brainwashed at a young age. Get over it: human society and brotherhood are the important aspects of human civilization. Capital is merely one way of forming a living, but it is hardly the best.
Give me a good example of a strong world power that impliments anything that has anything to do with capitalism and I will believe you. Russia has fallen, Chian is essentially using capitalistic ideas, Cuba is a speed bump now that their big brother Russia is out of the running, North Korea can barely feed it's own people. Now I guess that leaves Vietnam and maybe some other isolated places. Please to some acurate political and intelligence forcasting and tell us again precisely how capitalism is inferior to foo and how and where foo is implimented.
Things are changing, here, and elsewhere. Be prepared.
Sounds like the hippies of a 20-30 years ago. Generally this will not happen. The average person does not agree with this statement. And what you are forgetting is that for any sort of massive change usually top officials and the military have to be behind it. Last I checked I think that military people like getting paid on a regular basis and the top officials were quite amiable towards capitalism because it pays them to like it.
p.s.: although it is probably pointless to argue with a brainwashed capitalist like yourself, advertising on Slashdot is tacky as hell.
No you know what's really getting tacks? It's thinking that the 60's are still alive and that other nations even using military force could easily topple the USA in the next 10 years at least. I suggest you look at the political analysis at stratfor under their predictions of the decade for the major political areas of the world or maybe take a look at Jane's Intelligence Review at your local library or get a subscription (yeah it's expensive but it will put all those little fears to rest that the US is going anywhere). These sources are quite unbiased and quite good reading.
What I am wondering is which country you are actually from and exactly what kind of things that they do there that make it a good place to live for the "average person" not just the governmetn or the rich how exploit the region.
And Marx was essentially a means by which the ancient enemy of all honorable peoples could continue the essential "we are the world" hypocrisy of JudeoChristianity despite the disruptions of post-Enlightenment forces like Darwin.
Well if you don't think that tyrants of the world were there before Jews and eventually Christianity you are wrong. Ever hear of people like Ghengis Khan, How about Mao? Maybe hitler? I seriously doubt Hitler was a church going man at all.
There is a reason why Drawin's theories and study of genetics were suppressed in the empires spawned by Marx/Engels, and it is essentially the same reason they are taboo in in much of JudeoChristiandom as well as the newest religion of Empires, Political Correctness:
Tell me how is evolution politically correct. Most of what I have seen in the world in terms of political correctness has essentially been groups whom they think are under represented are suddently in a position to exploit a government or a faction for their own self interest.
The real and enduring opposing interests, until we take responsibility for them as a technological civilization, are genetic self interests. Within JudeoChristianity, Marxism and Political Correctness (not to mention lesser forms of hypocrisy such as Nationalism) we are all supposed to identify as one people so that those instinctively less prone to having their kin-altruism abused can exploit us at their leisure -- until there are no people left who are capable of morality.
Hmm. This really dosn't 'jive' with what most people think. What exactly is a "genetic self-interest". Why do people now that we posess technology have to make so form of choice in terms of genetics? You know computers and people's genes don't have to mix you know. We could have computers and still ride around on cammels use swords and ride in chariots. Nothing says that technology has to do anything it's just an add on feature.
Now honestly what I really have a shaky grasp of is the last sentence of this little thing.
Within JudeoChristianity, Marxism and Political Correctness (not to mention lesser forms of hypocrisy such as Nationalism) we are all supposed to identify as one people so that those instinctively less prone to having their kin-altruism abused can exploit us at their leisure -- until there are no people left who are capable of morality.
Tell me why nationalism is hypocritical in it's motives and aims. The aim is simple to create a nation state. How the people choose to relate to that state is a function of their choice and governmental impact. Nationalism does everything it says it does it just dosn't do it well all the time like every form of government. Oh by the way usuaully the more "fairy tale" forms of government you read about in fantasy books usually hint at one of two things:
1. Control by a government that is eventually embraced through a carefully constructed form of information.
2. Biological intervention in the form of having a way to easily transcend the unpopularity or the problems associated with that regime. Usually this means that they are into the inner self or a strong myth base or even the fact that they can leave.
The last part of that sentence translates (again correct me if I'm wrong) says:
"The peole who don't agree with the program and feel united are then enslaved by the people who don't get with it."
I'm sorry but this just is wrong. That would mean that hippies would rule the world and eventually kill "morality".
Now I am a little confused about what you mean by "morality" in this case. Usually that word is associated with clear cut ideas of what is right and wrong. This is usually associated with nation states and strong governments and not anarchy. So are you saying that anarchy is the best form of government (oops no Christians or Jews or any organized large religion that has a code of conduct) and that all others are repressive?
This just sounds like so many ideas lumped together. You should seperate all the ideas out and process them one by one. It might make it longer but for the majority of people in the world it's a little easier to understand.
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by NSA_Guy on 10:22 3rd February, 2000 MDT
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Picture is a little jacked up, someone fix the horizontal.
Hello this is NSA chief of covert operations Bill McHansen
Damn you figured out our little scheme to assassinate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H um I mean talk to the members of slashdot. However we will eventually achieve our objective. Good day.
The person who can build with the LEGOs would not be on par with the person with the knowledge, they would be playing a different game all together.
Maybe so but the goal is still the same. To get into college.
There is a different kind of intelligence at work when a person uses LEGOs as opposed to memorizing material. The whole point of the LEGOs is to level the playing field for people who didn't have the resources to learn the material
that someone else had to luxury of having access to or the time to learn it.
Funny I can take the material that I supposedly "memorized" and apply it in various situations (such as posting to slashdot) without just reciting the things chapter and verse.
Could someone please tell me in the late 20th century early 21st century in America how exactly can one *not* get a HS education? Maybe if they have a severe series of operations or maybe they are physically beaten up on the way to school then it might prevent this. However even the poorest student in the USA has some local school where he/she can get access to education. Now if the school sucks or dosn't teach right isn't the issue. It's wheather you can *learn* from teh HS and get a diploma. Technically if you get D-s all the way through HS there are still colleges that will take you. As far as time well why do you even do anything? People in the late 20th century seem to think that they have less and less time then people in earlier periods of history. As I recall in the early 20th century we had people who really didn't have a whole lot of time because they were working to death. Quite frankly I think such a hellish time was absolutely scary. I don't think HS students are so pressed for time (you really don't need a job at all in HS) that they can't even read a book or do some homework.
Let's face it, life isn't all peachy everywhere for everyone. People are put at a disadvatage sometimes and should not be denied opportunities for it. This is the basis of using LEGOs. It's an opportunity for certain people who are
disadvantaged to prove that they can hack it in school. You can't honestly expect ghetto kids to stop dodging bullets to learn trig or expect some kid in the swamps to study poetry or whatnot while he waits for his pops to beat his
ass because he is drunk again. The LEGO thing makes things more fair because they are blocks that can go together in a way to make something.
You know people must think that everywhere at every time that people absolutely *HAVE* to live where they are. If I live in complete and desperate poverty or are dodging bullets or what not I can always get up off my ass and actually leave. Hell if I am homeless or a bum I can always leave. People just don't realize that there are alternatives. Maybe if say a group of well armed thugs decided to take out the little ol' gang members perhaps we could actually get some peace. I mean they want to threaten others why don't we threaten them?
Basically you are saying that because johnny is too busy not getting killed or maimed in some way that he can't learn? Exactly how many of these cases are actually happening? I would like some reliable figures that indicate that the use of legos and alternative testing measures are actually an effective measure to giving these people an equal chance. If I can't do basic algebra how can I do say entry level calculus or say even good programming. The concepts of varibales and equations are basic to programming and without the ability to actually know these things I think that you can't do it well.
My point is if you are bright, but for some reason unable to learn the things that you and I have had the opportunity to learn, the LEGO test is basic enough to let a person like this demonstrate that he is smart enough to go to
college.
So colleges now become the centers of remedial education. These people will undoubtally end up taking level 0900 classes or equivelent and not starting out in freshmen level classes like the rest of the people.
Don't knock it. I did well on the SATs and I think that it counts for something. Let's face it: you can bullshit your way through it to some degree, but the difference between someone with a 1100 and someone with a 1500 is pretty :). But I had seriously mediocre grades in HS, but my SAT and SAT II scores got me
big. Granted, it's hardly the only measure of aptitude or potential, and is of limited worth to anyone except those who did well (and get to brag
into a highly-ranked school, so I can't complain.
Ok that seems reasonable. The tests are to test general knowledge and such. If you can prove that you know something that's a good thing.
But you're arguing with slashdot-terminal, the uber-right wing fuck who couldn't possibly see beyond the whiteness of his own skin.
I think that was uncalled for. Let's get things straight ok?
1. How do you know I am white? Have you actually traced my identity to an actual person? I actually have taken great pains to distance myself from an actual identity.
2. I don't see how advocating the current system actually hurts anyone including minorities. The only people who really get hurt are people who don't like tests. I am actually a test phobe. I hate tests with a passion. However once you get into college of any sort (even a crummy one) you have to take tests all the time. So why not get over your phobia now.
3. Are you a person who is non-white? Can you show that I have callously disregarded you in any way. Considering I have never seen you either I think that I can't even prove you aren't white.
If you don't like my arguments then fine. However I grew up in reality where tests were the norm and studying was something that was expected. I will not allow the world to move on with what I perceive to be misguided dumbing down of the curriculum. However if people want to make it trivial for people like me to succeede while I put in less actual work then fine. I really don't care. I can actually spend half or less the time I devote to studying and staying up late at night to get all my work done. In other words no skin off my nose at all.
I know many people who can build with legos AND have shown a knowledge of "the" material through a standardized test.
Ok I should have been a little clearer. I meant to say that if all you can do is build with legos then that is a poor indicator of intelligence. I have a younger brother who was able to play with legos in the 4th grade. Does that mean he can get into college? I didn't think so.
I hope people respond to it in the nice way that they should, and agree that this is a positive step, helping minorities and the disadvantaged as it is intended to. I know that Mensa certainly has 'culture fair' test which rather than
requiring a good knowledge of the subtleties of English or Maths as many IQ tests require, uses spatial awareness as the basis instead - in a direct attempt not just to get the stereotyped arrogant British toffs that might be the only
ones to get good scores on old style tests.
A little bit of grammer check (this really gets on my nerves) 'maths' is not necessarily proper grammer. If I want to talk about math in the plural form I say just math or mathmetics. How exactly if I actually *read* the books does my race have anything to do with getting accepted to college. If I am black does that make me unable to learn? If I am "disadvantaged" how does it prevent access to information? I was rather poor through my childhood and was still able to gain access to public libraries (ever heard of this new thing called the "free" library started in the 19th century and Carnagie). Somehow I doubt that everyone and their mother wants to get into MENSA anyway. It might look good as just another feather in your cap but that dosn't mean much.
I'm all for alternate testing techniques, especially if the courses that this is being used as a requirement for are technique based rather than courses that do require prior knowledge (of literature, for example).
We really do not have that much of a problem at least in the US of getting information to people. The public school environment will at least produce a basic level of information that can be used to create more information and generally be allowed to give a better result. Alternate testing techniques could be employed under the ADA or something similar however college is usually for people who went to HS. High School education or GEDs are not exclusive as they were in times past.
I really think that standards are declining if people use legos to get into college. I actually wanted to take the ACT test to get into college and I feel that it was worth it. I can't realistically believe that anyone who can build with legos can actually be on par with someone who has actually shown a knowledge of the material through a standardized test.
One thing to keep in mind (regarding old SF vs. new SF) is that fact that the basic nature of people does not change (just take a look at history). It doesn't really matter whether people are running around in reflective space suits and
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wielding death rays or fusion-powered armor and hauling plasma cannons; the technology is just there to help tell the story (whatever that story may be), which is invariably about people.
Well I think it matters. If you look at things like star trek their society is fundamentally different. Do you happen to see any bums on Earth? Are there panhandlers outside Starfleet Academy? No. People work for the hell of it and to gain status. I think this is fundamentally different from what we do today. Some of the ideas that I actually look at are taken from science fiction. What I generally don't like is where we take good ideas and put them in a package that makes it seem like crap. Suppose I get a car with a superior engine, 1,000 miles to the gallon, can achieve speeds of 200 Mph and go from 0 - 60Mph in say 2.3 seconds. This car will also run off of urine or almost anything that is put in the tank (including sugar). No suppose I take this an put it into a pinto's chasis. Now do you like the car as much? Will you buy it if all you see is the outside of the car? First impressions matter. Human nature can change based on what the human has. If I can say do something a little more efficiently then I will be able to have more time to ponder the great questions.
But predictions are, in my opinion, what science fiction is all about! As I said above, I generally view the technology as an aid for the story. A story itself is about people. Ever read a work of SF (or any literature, for that matter) that
didn't have any characters?
Predictions are nice however not all of them are acurate. A great deal of the future concepts of what society will be like are crappy. Here is a popular one:
Man builds intelligent cyborgs. Cyborgs serve man for a time. Eventually cyborgs say "fsck this" and decide to kick ass. Man is destroyed, forced underground, or enslaved.
Now we can see that even with the possibility that cyborgs are strong they are most likely not invincible. Humans obviously will not invest trillions of $$ without control.
Modern SF is every bit as "preachy" as classic SF. It's just a different kind of preaching. It's the change in the zeitgeist, the prevailing philosophy of the time, that makes it seem more hokey or preachy now than it may have 50 years
ago. But it's good to read the stuff that's stood the test of time; there's a reason it did stand.
Does anyone have any opensource sf (ala gutenberg) out there? I know that probably Edward Belemay's "Looking Backward" (supposedly how a time traveler from the 19th century ends up in the year 2000) is most likely out there are there others?
I believe a good solutoin for this problem is the "cached" version Google keeps in his own database... i always try to access the real link first.... but the backup is on much occasions the only solution....
Here here! Now that is what I call an inovation. I can't tell you how many times this has saved me.
The vast majority of people who use search engines like altavista don't want to index the whole web. They just want to index either their web sites or some database content. For instance, my company builds intranet libraries for
financial services companies. Part of the work involves receiving large feeds of stories from various sources, and our customers want to do free text searches on those stories. We use oracle for our main database, but oracle is very bad at
solving this particular problem, so we need to use another database (such as the alta vista search engine) to do the text indexing.
So your saying that essentially the main function that this particular things was created for will not be used? Also that most of the things released under the GPL and various other liscences are usually associated with business applications? I am sorry but a great deal of the "practal" applications seem frightfully dull. Is there a way that a truly interesting use of this search engine can be utilized for something a little bit more relaxed such as say analyzing content on the web and creating a better series of topologigraphic maps of the internet? Now *that* would be cool. Transfering the data to an ascii environment would be even cooler.
I'm amused how in English, "a fraction of" implies "a fraction less than zero", when of course "a fraction of" could be, for example, "eight thirds".
I don't think that's right. A fraction of (since I do speak basically only English and it is my native tongue) refers to a part of. I have never heard that it means less than zero anywhere. Plus anything less than zero is negative and there are not many ways you can have negative quantities in terms of something like a dictionary unless the dictionary had a method of erasing memory engrams.
The article doesn't mention that Altavista is going to open source theit source code. It says that the source code will be given to applicants who can present a "real" web site they are running.
It would be great news if the source code would truly be GP-licensed or whatever OS license model Altavista would choose, but I doubt they will do that. Also remember that the search engine that you can obtain from Alta Vista is
not the same as the one that's running their web site. It used to be downloadable before, and my information is that it does not scale as good as the AltaVista.com web page search engine does.
Another little piece of info regarding the use of a search engine. Basically you need a large ammount of disk space (on the order of terabytes) to actually get a search engine up and running. You need that database or else when I want to look at ancient Zulu fingernail clippings I will not find them in your search engine. This really will not empower many people to do anything special at all.
Yes, a lot of people have heard of this guy. MOST of us geeks have! Sorry you haven't, your missing out on some great writing and your life is poorer for it's absence.
Actually to back up the original poster I have never actually heard of this guy either. Did he create anything new recently? What was his last major work?
The great masters of Science Fiction have been gone for a century now.
Of course, they're not gone, they are exactly as present in the literary world as they were when they were still alive. No great books have up and disappeared from the earth that I can remember.
The poster is refering to the use of new talent in the area. I am sure that Win 3.11 is a cool shell/sub-operating system but that dosn't mean there is any quality development on it. How about kernel 0.99 or so? Debian beta 0.98? I didn't think so. Generally the lack of new talent kills a medium.
[slashdot-terminal@slashdot slashdot-terminal]$ flameshield --verbose --activate --abestos
;) In the Campbell era, there were genuinely new ideas, examination of social issues without being preachy or satirical, great writing and (oddly absent from many
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Ok now that I am protected I have a little critique on this post.
We're losing all the old great masters of science fiction. I guess this is inevitable, but modern science fiction just isn't the same.
I would say that it's a little more realistic in terms of what humanity will actually do. Come on. Do you really think that peole will actually go around in flying saucers and wear crappy reflective space suits and kill aliens will the "Evil Death Ray of Doom"(tm)? I think the recent incarnations of Star Trek and such are far more realistic then people who actually believed that there was a whole civilization on mars. Ever read some of the stuff Bradbury created? If people genuinely believe that science will make people like that they have to take a step back and look at themselves. What early science fiction is more of is just like myths and legends. Generally these things are obviously not real and have no truth to them they are just teaching some kind of early prophecy or moral. I look to science fiction to see how realistically we can achieve various elements. Having people in reflective spandex just dosn't cut it.
I think modern writers can learn something from the Great Old Ones.
modern writers) a great knowledge of science. You can find pieces of that puzzle everywhere now, but the specialization leaves us with few authors who try to be great in everything.
In the beginning everything is new. You remember the joke about the chicken crossing the road? Well at one time in history it was really knee slapping funny too. However we have things like cliches and things like that and because of this we have to do things differently or rish looking like a fool. Maybe these guys are equivelent to Mel the programmer of bygone days who wrote everything in machine code and did it better than people do now. Maybe these guys were better than we think. However time they are a chinging. Generally I want something that dosn't think that PCs are not a reality that only the 5 richest kings of Europe can have them, that humans will turn into mutated creatures and live underground, etc. In short I want a picture of the mid to far future that I like.
So while we're mourning, and catching up our anthology collections, let's think about where we want science fiction to be going.
Something that isn't so far flung that it makes Santa and the Tooth Fairt, The Easter Bunny and The Great Pumpkin seem to be fact. I want more use of technology and less reliance on unrealistic social and political predictions of the future.
I have to say it but if all data is copyright of someone or something else and is intellectual property then all data will have to be redone with various research having to be reexamined. This is compeltely unacceptable. Is there a good enough database tool that would allow an individual to get a large quantity of data say now before any potential laws are actually passed and then have it become open sourced?
Why didn't you simply create the source in secret or using a forged identity or perhaps an alias? If one wishes for something to spread in some way the usual method to do so is to allow the talent to not be destroyed or diluted in any way. My question did you consider the possibilities about breaking this encryption scheme and what kind of response you would have generated?
I am wondering about the actual price of this thing. I would really like to see a cheap computer that could attract people in my boat and not just high end people with thousands of dollars. Will this just be another toy of the ecconomic elite?
It angers me that Slashdot posts suggestions to "grab it while you can", in reference to patent violations. If a patent is truly violated, I would hope that any developers out there would honor that patent and discontinue their
[potentially illegal] use of the code.
That's nice so mathmetical notions of creating a good expression are impossible to use. So what happens then is that you have to use something that you develop that would be crappy and not worth doing. The author makes thousands and you can't even hold a candle to them. Nice.
To actually say that some idiot promoting foolish slogans to get people to easily remember soda is foolish.
What is more interesting is the interface designs that the syndicate used to have a massive monitoring network from all the major vending sites for soda and their product.
Also what was brought up in those series of things was the use of a human/machine interface that was employed to transmit data from the monitering party to the individual who was networked. Quite interesting.
Has any research been done about machine/human interfaces for say transmitting simple words or vould sounds to the person't vocal center of their brain?
Really quite interesting that people would be commenting on a complex that I think that most slashdotters would abhor and usually keep a wide bearth away from.
I can think of only one application of anything geek related in this and that is the use of computers and various graphics programs to create the commercials. Aside from that everything else is just bad.
1. Sports -- generally the goals of sports and computing are opposite of each other. Want proof how many professional athleates have ever written a working program that actually did anything useful? I don't think anyone could really name one at all. 2. Commercials in general. Numberous times I have actually seen quotes that have indicated that television is a medium which is used as an opiate for the masses and is generally one of the vehicles by which we approach a totalitarian state. My question in this case is exactly why is this something that is good?
3. The super bowl. I couldn't think of a bigger waste of a peson's time than to be in front of a television when an event of little political or social importance is going on. Is the victor of the super bowl actually going to become the unquestioned lord and master of the world? No. Does football have anything to do with anything relating in even a smal;l way with computers.
4 Advertising in general. Advertising is not a field that lends itself to openness and the use of fair tactics of any sort. If you disbelieve this just look at how deceptive advertisements for automobiles are. Some bozo is driving his car along a mountain road or along a track at speeds well over the legal limit or some red neck is taking his 4x4 through the most unimproved area he can find and that is supposed to make an impression on people (and hey it's not technically illegal because they have little notices in 1pt fine sans serif font at the bottom of the screen). If this is the direction that the technical community is taking I want out before we have the next release of windows or linux to be codenamed Buckaroo or something equally corny.
5. Taco? Well this is a little suprise but I guess evolution can work in reverse can't it? Most humans usually decrease their mental abilities after age 20 or so and a general atrophy of physical and psychochemical elements also occurs about then so I guess it's not that much of a suprise?
The above comments are not necessarily flames or anything else however does sporting minutiae such as the super bowl actually count as something that is technically noteworthy? Theoretically if the entire human race is enslaved by reptilian creatures from the planet zoron it shouldn't appear on slashdot unless they make the drivers that run their spaceships opensource and run on linux.
To sum up this little post: sports and commercials relating to sporting events are far removed from the sphere of technical influence and necessity of the part of the human race that actually counts that it is almost laughable.
Does anyone have any hard facts about the actual image hardware/software that was used? Did anything actually revolutionary that is technically important actually go down then? PS. I make an offering of a dead cow to the first god that represses the posting of the actual results from the super bowl from slashdot.
How can they say that the GUI's are hard to use? Sounds like it was written by someone who has never seen XFree86. It's almost as simple to use as Windows or MacOS.
Actually what makes it hard is the ammount of system resources your typical program is using.
Take an example I went from version 1.1.10 of the gimp 1.1.14 and suddently more and more memory was being sucked into the program. Wheras a perfectly good program had once run on my machine 16MB or physical ram and 20MB of virtual the machine needed even more. So now I have something like 38virtual just to make sure the memory dosn't just magically run out.
If people would just optimeze the development the UI could be more user friendly and still be interesting.
Ha! I'm glad you read this board. Was beginning to think it was filled entirely with the clueless.
No I am not clueless. When discussing man one is usually directed to the most ancient examples whereby one can gain a better understanding of the current or cases where desperation is the norm.
I certainly have, and I've been pleased with the general results. Larger, more proactive government that offers more services to its citizens (and despite what right-wingers in disguise like Bill Clinton will tell you, the era of big
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government is most definitely not over by any stretch of the imagination.) I believe that we will see socialized health care within the next 20 years, which will be a Good Thing (TM). In addition, the iron grip that the totalitarian
right wing has held on social issues has been steadily dissolving since the 60s. This is another Good Thing (TM).
Well since you know so much about America it is worthy to point out that in fact Bill Clinton's first attempt to push a new health care bill failed in his first term. Another thing that you do not understand is that ideas of what is right and wrong fade and ebb over time. All we have to have is another little thing like the great depression to get everyone interested in order and stability and all the freedoms that have supposedly been gained over the years will be slowly taken away in favor of getting things better. We are actually getting closer to a period of intollerance in our affairs.
And this is just America. I note that you conveniently ignore the rest of the world, most notably Europe, where benevolent socialism is in and heartless practices and ancient superstitions are out.
And you ignore that policies that make a country powerful: population, land, and power. We in the USA are concerned with China because concievably if it were an even fight they could do serious damage if they really wanted to. That's why all the little fuss over the stoler nuclear warhead designes for the recent warheads. European population growth is actually decreasing and I think will be headed for negative growth over the next few years. America and Asia are the hot spots for people and power in the next few years. Socialism may be in now however socialism was in reaction to what was percieved as a problem. The minute a new problem is found you will find a new solution no matter how extreme it is.
An interesting aside. You say "ancient practices and ancient superstitions" are out? Well let's look at that one now. Major hub for Christianity (that's what I assume you are refering to) major Cathedrials and monuments in France, Endland, and Germany. Oh and all that little pagan stuff that is so en vouge with a lot of people (which is largely superstitious and very ancient usually what people did before Christianity came along). This would mean that ancient superstitions are actually in within Europe not just in other places. Unless all your churches are along the line of God Almighty's Church of Healin' and Miracles founded by an ex-Steel worker in Kansas or some strange group of people who think that wearing their shoes on their heads is really neato.
Heh. Hardly.
Actually if you want to kill a bill in the Senate one method is to attach riders onto the bill. One of the methods I heard about was that people would put a clause onto the bill that says that the Communist part is the only political part in the united states. Guess what happens to the bill? Yup gone finished fineato. People want to live in a way that does not create misery and the best way is to have money with which to exchange for goods at a fair exchange rate. This is largely how the world works. People don't want inflation and they don't want marginal lives. How do leftist policies actually change what people basically want and satisify them?
That's nice, but completely meaningless. Count me out.
Not necessarily because having money is one of the best ways of creating a positive environment (at least in part) for a family. I know. Having money eliminates at least the basic problems of crime, disease, hunger, want, etc. And for most people who are in the USA those "ancient superstitions" are actually a good way to satisfy all the major higher level problems. People can also study in college and gain the technical abilities that they need without even encountering leftism as anything that is necessary to learn. People who are doing things in technical areas are usually not the type to read War and Peace and the works of Karl Marx.
The democratic socialist movement is making huge advances in membership. Although I'm sure that you would prefer the old, inhuman system of randite capitalism, some of us prefer to take this imperfect system and kick out the
door where it belongs. Face it, not everyone buys into your notions of the benefits of capitalism with which people like you are brainwashed at a young age. Get over it: human society and brotherhood are the important aspects of
human civilization. Capital is merely one way of forming a living, but it is hardly the best.
Give me a good example of a strong world power that impliments anything that has anything to do with capitalism and I will believe you. Russia has fallen, Chian is essentially using capitalistic ideas, Cuba is a speed bump now that their big brother Russia is out of the running, North Korea can barely feed it's own people. Now I guess that leaves Vietnam and maybe some other isolated places. Please to some acurate political and intelligence forcasting and tell us again precisely how capitalism is inferior to foo and how and where foo is implimented.
Things are changing, here, and elsewhere. Be prepared.
Sounds like the hippies of a 20-30 years ago. Generally this will not happen. The average person does not agree with this statement. And what you are forgetting is that for any sort of massive change usually top officials and the military have to be behind it. Last I checked I think that military people like getting paid on a regular basis and the top officials were quite amiable towards capitalism because it pays them to like it.
p.s.: although it is probably pointless to argue with a brainwashed capitalist like yourself, advertising on Slashdot is tacky as hell.
No you know what's really getting tacks? It's thinking that the 60's are still alive and that other nations even using military force could easily topple the USA in the next 10 years at least. I suggest you look at the political analysis at stratfor under their predictions of the decade for the major political areas of the world or maybe take a look at Jane's Intelligence Review at your local library or get a subscription (yeah it's expensive but it will put all those little fears to rest that the US is going anywhere). These sources are quite unbiased and quite good reading.
What I am wondering is which country you are actually from and exactly what kind of things that they do there that make it a good place to live for the "average person" not just the governmetn or the rich how exploit the region.
And Marx was essentially a means by which the ancient enemy of all honorable peoples could continue the essential "we are the world" hypocrisy of JudeoChristianity despite the disruptions of post-Enlightenment forces like Darwin.
Well if you don't think that tyrants of the world were there before Jews and eventually Christianity you are wrong. Ever hear of people like Ghengis Khan, How about Mao? Maybe hitler? I seriously doubt Hitler was a church going man at all.
There is a reason why Drawin's theories and study of genetics were suppressed in the empires spawned by Marx/Engels, and it is essentially the same reason they are taboo in in much of JudeoChristiandom as well as the newest
religion of Empires, Political Correctness:
Tell me how is evolution politically correct. Most of what I have seen in the world in terms of political correctness has essentially been groups whom they think are under represented are suddently in a position to exploit a government or a faction for their own self interest.
The real and enduring opposing interests, until we take responsibility for them as a technological civilization, are genetic self interests. Within JudeoChristianity, Marxism and Political Correctness (not to mention lesser forms of
hypocrisy such as Nationalism) we are all supposed to identify as one people so that those instinctively less prone to having their kin-altruism abused can exploit us at their leisure -- until there are no people left who are capable of
morality.
Hmm. This really dosn't 'jive' with what most people think. What exactly is a "genetic self-interest". Why do people now that we posess technology have to make so form of choice in terms of genetics? You know computers and people's genes don't have to mix you know. We could have computers and still ride around on cammels use swords and ride in chariots. Nothing says that technology has to do anything it's just an add on feature.
Now honestly what I really have a shaky grasp of is the last sentence of this little thing.
Within JudeoChristianity, Marxism and Political Correctness (not to mention lesser forms of
hypocrisy such as Nationalism) we are all supposed to identify as one people so that those instinctively less prone to having their kin-altruism abused can exploit us at their leisure -- until there are no people left who are capable of
morality.
Tell me why nationalism is hypocritical in it's motives and aims. The aim is simple to create a nation state. How the people choose to relate to that state is a function of their choice and governmental impact. Nationalism does everything it says it does it just dosn't do it well all the time like every form of government. Oh by the way usuaully the more "fairy tale" forms of government you read about in fantasy books usually hint at one of two things:
1. Control by a government that is eventually embraced through a carefully constructed form of information.
2. Biological intervention in the form of having a way to easily transcend the unpopularity or the problems associated with that regime. Usually this means that they are into the inner self or a strong myth base or even the fact that they can leave.
The last part of that sentence translates (again correct me if I'm wrong) says:
"The peole who don't agree with the program and feel united are then enslaved by the people who don't get with it."
I'm sorry but this just is wrong. That would mean that hippies would rule the world and eventually kill "morality".
Now I am a little confused about what you mean by "morality" in this case. Usually that word is associated with clear cut ideas of what is right and wrong. This is usually associated with nation states and strong governments and not anarchy. So are you saying that anarchy is the best form of government (oops no Christians or Jews or any organized large religion that has a code of conduct) and that all others are repressive?
This just sounds like so many ideas lumped together. You should seperate all the ideas out and process them one by one. It might make it longer but for the majority of people in the world it's a little easier to understand.