Actually the disruption of the DNC at the time was in the 70's under the Delay administration. You have to look at what the big picture is. I have maintained that it is really most of these crappy State governments that are really taking freedom away from the average person. Police beatings, social service agencies, road construction, OJ, even King are all subjects that directly are related to state governments; and it going to get worse. People want to make it so the states have more power. So guess what that does. Yup, yes, you got it joe, more "evil government" actions. I would think that the feds are a little more lenient than say the LAPD or any other local agency where you live. Pretty soon you will have to deal with states like they are their own separate countries if you want certain rights. I am thinking about this and am wondering what state has the best record for giving people freedom and rights in the 50 in the US?
Not everyone thinks that American way is dead a great many people actually care.
Now for the burning question: why does everyone hate the government so much? Do you really think that other countries are any better? If the government was all gone tomorrow and the army with it do you not think that some shall we say even more oppressive regime (ie communist China) would not step in to fill the void? To put it bluntly your life would most likely be forefit because you are an "intellectual" and a "free-thinker" under the communist system that many of these counquerors believe in. No my friend I will continue to believe in the country that has a better ammount of soverientity than any one else for quite some time.
In every area of human endeavour there is always a way to get away with something. Robbing banks is totally wrong and has harsh jail time for the offense; does that stop people from commiting these types of crimes? Maybe people will have to go back the the dirty magazine shop around the corner to get what they want a minor inconvinence at worst. As much as they want to make the net a "family" place they will never succeede.
Yes I can think of several instinces where this could be a good idea. Hiding from the police or a stalker, alienation from humanity due to terminal illness, physical deformity, language barrier, etc. Yes you could want to I in fact do not like to socialize due to lack of really intereseting people out there who would actually would accept me. For that matter I feel alienated in the geographical locatality I am in. Generally it is difficult to live in a world where physical appearence and other factors affect life. Perhaps then all the world's rather unsung individuals who aren't social affencianados.
Is there a major financial or time commitement to day trading? Is there any stored databse of say accurate curve fitting analysis to determine the movements of the market?
Social needs? Why do people need social needs? Unless you cannot handle the strain of not having them fulfilled. One could theoretically live for 30 years with things like Schizophrenia, multiple personalities, being a hermit, etc; and still not die. Now if you believe in some sort of "hippie" concept of needing friendship to be alive than perhaps yes. However if I could do something like put muself on a space pod to chart a previously uncharted region of space then I would. People have use the excuse of having a "social life" for thousands of years to prevent progress. Look at many people in SCIFI shows like Star Trek. The only reason the Federation defeated the Dominion was because they has devious, sneaky, hard working people who didn't think that giving their enemies a fair break was a good idea. The whole concept of social dynamics is a complete waste in concerns of progess. Now if you correlate social activity to the carefully crafted dance that is monitary wealth then perhaps it is a good idea. Like I said before in an earlier post excercise is unnecessary in and above of various biochemical enhancements. In the future perhaps we can use these to enhance our ability to spend almost 100% of our time thinking and let technology take care of the rest.
I have never seen fit nor had need to connect to irc servers, nntp systems, icq, aim, or jabber. These things require IP addresses to be able to access and generally are not enabled in the browser at all. If you use lab machines/dial-up terminals/ kiosks/ integrated browsers/ or non-net connected computers then this presents a problem. As far as e-mail is concerned the medium has a great deal of flaws. One of them is the continual use of various "security" features on all except the most elite account features. Take hotmail cookies, https? Is this really necessary. Does anyone care about grandman sending recipies to her friends? About billy talking to his friends? Most people never check e-mail accounts because of pure sloth. Nntp is almost useless unless you have a very high end setup. Ever noticed that for being the system of the future that almost no group allows for easy simple text based, non cookie enabled access to nntp? Being forced to subscribe to a particular server, having to posess a client that is usually not installed (try IE 4.0) and such. Yes it is possible but not very fault tolerant. Why this useless protocol was invented I have no idea. SMTP is far superior to anything ever developed. In it's pure form it is a thing of beauty.
It's the annoying physical factor. I don't think it's pathetic but I do wish I could do more of the interesting things. Such as run a real server or run a place like slashdot. I never have been given responsibility. Mostly I think that civilization prevents the most able people from being able to impliment the best ideas. Excercise? well if you live in a major metropolitan area you tend to get a big lung full of smog when you take a deep breath so maybe if you live in Los Angles, New York City or maybe Boston you could be limiting your lifetime of your lungs. Another problem is that humans are able to do only so much. Training levels for people in the ancient days were more severe than now. I recall that the Spartans were able to run 20 miles per day in their daily treks for their warriors. I have not seen any correlation between that and a high level of health. Besides it is a lot better to die at 60 of a heart attack than to live to 65 go senile or get Alteizmers(sp) disease and cause the brain to go.
I hate the fact that most access seems to be beyond the range of my 2400bps modem. What a crap. At any rate I believe that most people who are technically inclined could (in the future of course) be able to become partly cyborgenetic and give up the need to actually not be connected to the net. I remember an episode of "The Outer Limits" where all of humanity had their brains connected up to a computer network. Very cool. I think that this guy is just whiny.
Why can't people just use a hand operated one? The only way you could use anything acurately enough for finite motions like that would be if you had ballet lessons. There are certain activities that one cannot do if one is not endowed with ability and the use of various limbs. If you don't have eyes chances the possibility of effectively playing something like quake would be nil. Unless you have effective, subjective methods of auditory display. ex..
You see someone off in the distance you pull your machine gun from it's strap. You fire into your enemy. He fills with bullets and then sinks to the ground in a pool of blood.
How do you use a degree like that? Recycle? House training a dog? Without practal applications math just dosn't work at all. All you have are fantasy and myth with a lot a hocus pocus in between. At least with an english major or a philosophy major you can take that data and maybe apply it to some sort of diplomatic group or sociology work or something.
How many suicides do people in math degrees have? If people were to allow society to catch up with math (or just have math stand still) so that interesting uses of esoteric stuff occurs then perhaps it can be of use. Besides who says that the "newest" stuff is actually the most correct. Wasn't the structure of DNA only discovered 50 years ago or thereabouts? What good does it do if you have all these wonderful theories and nothing to do with them?
Well your comment about slashdot I think is a little biased. I think there is a big difference between a person who has math info and one who has information regarding computers and the like. The separation between those in the math world and those in the computer world ended with the use of the personal computer. Once computers didn't cost $9,999 (taken from a magazine in 1979) people could use a computer without needing a Phd degree in math.
Personally I shudder to think what having to take all that math could do to a person if they had to get a job in something like computers! Basically it's nice to do something with math; however the approach to the subject needs a little work. It seems that the higher you go in math the more bland and unapproachable the subject becoms and the more difficult (difficulty!) it becomes. Why can't people produce a nice graphical textbook about complex math subjects with plents of examples and problems to work on? I even see calculus books that fall victim to the same type of thing. If anyone really cares I think that stories about random complex mathmatical subjects should not be covered if we don't have some of the more interesting political subjects. I have a bias towards things that have a lasting importance versus things that have a limited appeal. How can you tell little Billy about STW? You can't. Can you tell Billy about the current political situation in the Balkans (at least easier than some topic where most of the areas in math you can't get to with graduate levels of math education).
And for the mentality that Americans being brain dead and the rest of the world having a natural brilliance towards math I would beg to differ. I think it's only in places in the US where people have the free time and material wealth to do research and be able to have means to feed themselves makes things like this possible?
Are there any good textbooks (graphical, examples galore, problems) that would make someone an Einstein a little easier? Real world examples?
Well actually I think confusion is a very bad thing. I really want to persue more of the interesting stuff in science. I am currently having a bear of a time with Calculus (most likely failure) and find that confusion causes people undue levels of negative energy. Statements such as these most likely have revelence to only about 10 people in the world. And of those 10 about 3 are actually qualified to do any of these things that they talk about. Then about 1 person is left who can do this without getting a very large migrane or stroke.
If you wanted to get revenge just do a couple of things. Distribute leaflets or handbills downtown or from a byplane about how much or a crook they are.
Take them to court for selling fradulent merchandice and tell Intel too. I am sure they would be very interested in their actions as well.
Well what about the risk? I like to think that I don't want to have problems with my hardware any more than usual. Usually when I have hardware problems they are fatal hardware problems. Doing something risky such as increasing the operating temperature of a CPU is one of these problems. Why would a company sell chips operating at a certain frequency or level of transistors? If there is a little extra speed why not just take it and use it to increase the base level of the chip? Maybe you have a great deal of money to throw around but I do not.
I am of the opinion that employment is the only thing keeping people from being bums and staving off eventual death. Why would anyone risk it just to sell a few chips? Wouldn't someone eventually figure it out if they run a processor specific program (say a game) and then it wouldn't work? Even this crappy scam couldn't work for maybe say about a couple of days.
Well I hate to say this but I really don't think so. With the backing of Microsoft I don't think they could loose if they put fritos in computers. Besides I think that intel machines are more oriented to math intensive operations wheras AMD chips are focused on graphics rendering. No I really don't know what you like but I sure would like good math preformance instead of a bunch of pretty pictures.
I don't particularly like that idea. It seems like that would increase disk space which I feel is at a premuim at the current ammount of time. Unless you are developing something with 1,000,000,000 lines of code you can easily wate or get a faster machine if you feel the need for speed.
Then who would buy it? Seriously one of the main things about linux is its ability to be compatable with itself. We really don't have to pull an NT manuver with linux and have a version that is compatable with other versions (win95/98) and a version that is compatable with none (NT) there are already enough problems with some features already in some distributions.
Well obviously you wanted to push buttons so here you go:
1. You can do that however cygnus already has proprietary extensions and services. The rest of the tools are not theirs to regulate terms of.
2. Impossible for code that is already liscenced under the GNU GPL you would have a rather big legal figh on your hands. That's even worse for share holders in general to have a bad image for the company.
3. Again impossible because the original code was under a liscence which makes changing it for another impossible.
4. Well if your product is really popular you don't have a prayer of stopping pirates. Look at how many sites you get if you go to google, altivista, alltheweb or others under the keyword "warez" lots huh? The only way to have people not pirate your stuff is if it's pretty dull stuff that no one cares about. I dare to bet that no one has pirated Mathmatica or Maple for linux to a warez site.
As a public company you have an obligation to give people a fair shake. If you don't do this you will loose as many customeers as you gain through the practices that you outlined. In fact you might have to file for chapter 14 if you do that.
A question for you: How long do you think that it would be before other kernel developers were to do something similar to the real linux kernel if Red Hat did something like this? I would suspect even if they turn into finks they still cannot do any real harm. What is the limitation by the way for hd's in linux?
Well the most you can really say is that they could have a similar ecconomic model. Even if they charge for the OS people still have choices for linux: Debian, slackware, etc. Redhat is not linux and people should really understand that.
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Actually the disruption of the DNC at the time was in the 70's under the Delay administration. You have to look at what the big picture is. I have maintained that it is really most of these crappy State governments that are really taking freedom away from the average person. Police beatings, social service agencies, road construction, OJ, even King are all subjects that directly are related to state governments; and it going to get worse. People want to make it so the states have more power. So guess what that does. Yup, yes, you got it joe, more "evil government" actions. I would think that the feds are a little more lenient than say the LAPD or any other local agency where you live. Pretty soon you will have to deal with states like they are their own separate countries if you want certain rights. I am thinking about this and am wondering what state has the best record for giving people freedom and rights in the 50 in the US?
Not everyone thinks that American way is dead a great many people actually care.
Now for the burning question: why does everyone hate the government so much? Do you really think that other countries are any better? If the government was all gone tomorrow and the army with it do you not think that some shall we say even more oppressive regime (ie communist China) would not step in to fill the void? To put it bluntly your life would most likely be forefit because you are an "intellectual" and a "free-thinker" under the communist system that many of these counquerors believe in. No my friend I will continue to believe in the country that has a better ammount of soverientity than any one else for quite some time.
In every area of human endeavour there is always a way to get away with something. Robbing banks is totally wrong and has harsh jail time for the offense; does that stop people from commiting these types of crimes? Maybe people will have to go back the the dirty magazine shop around the corner to get what they want a minor inconvinence at worst. As much as they want to make the net a "family" place they will never succeede.
try something like netzero or freei or something similar if you have the right hardware (56k) you can usually connect for free forever.
Yes I can think of several instinces where this could be a good idea. Hiding from the police or a stalker, alienation from humanity due to terminal illness, physical deformity, language barrier, etc. Yes you could want to I in fact do not like to socialize due to lack of really intereseting people out there who would actually would accept me. For that matter I feel alienated in the geographical locatality I am in. Generally it is difficult to live in a world where physical appearence and other factors affect life. Perhaps then all the world's rather unsung individuals who aren't social affencianados.
Sled dogs? If it's a location in say Alaska or Canada perhaps that would work?
Is there a major financial or time commitement to day trading? Is there any stored databse of say accurate curve fitting analysis to determine the movements of the market?
Social needs? Why do people need social needs? Unless you cannot handle the strain of not having them fulfilled. One could theoretically live for 30 years with things like Schizophrenia, multiple personalities, being a hermit, etc; and still not die. Now if you believe in some sort of "hippie" concept of needing friendship to be alive than perhaps yes. However if I could do something like put muself on a space pod to chart a previously uncharted region of space then I would. People have use the excuse of having a "social life" for thousands of years to prevent progress. Look at many people in SCIFI shows like Star Trek. The only reason the Federation defeated the Dominion was because they has devious, sneaky, hard working people who didn't think that giving their enemies a fair break was a good idea. The whole concept of social dynamics is a complete waste in concerns of progess. Now if you correlate social activity to the carefully crafted dance that is monitary wealth then perhaps it is a good idea. Like I said before in an earlier post excercise is unnecessary in and above of various biochemical enhancements. In the future perhaps we can use these to enhance our ability to spend almost 100% of our time thinking and let technology take care of the rest.
I have never seen fit nor had need to connect to irc servers, nntp systems, icq, aim, or jabber. These things require IP addresses to be able to access and generally are not enabled in the browser at all. If you use lab machines/dial-up terminals/ kiosks/ integrated browsers/ or non-net connected computers then this presents a problem. As far as e-mail is concerned the medium has a great deal of flaws. One of them is the continual use of various "security" features on all except the most elite account features. Take hotmail cookies, https? Is this really necessary. Does anyone care about grandman sending recipies to her friends? About billy talking to his friends? Most people never check e-mail accounts because of pure sloth. Nntp is almost useless unless you have a very high end setup. Ever noticed that for being the system of the future that almost no group allows for easy simple text based, non cookie enabled access to nntp? Being forced to subscribe to a particular server, having to posess a client that is usually not installed (try IE 4.0) and such. Yes it is possible but not very fault tolerant. Why this useless protocol was invented I have no idea. SMTP is far superior to anything ever developed. In it's pure form it is a thing of beauty.
It's the annoying physical factor. I don't think it's pathetic but I do wish I could do more of the interesting things. Such as run a real server or run a place like slashdot. I never have been given responsibility. Mostly I think that civilization prevents the most able people from being able to impliment the best ideas. Excercise? well if you live in a major metropolitan area you tend to get a big lung full of smog when you take a deep breath so maybe if you live in Los Angles, New York City or maybe Boston you could be limiting your lifetime of your lungs. Another problem is that humans are able to do only so much. Training levels for people in the ancient days were more severe than now. I recall that the Spartans were able to run 20 miles per day in their daily treks for their warriors. I have not seen any correlation between that and a high level of health. Besides it is a lot better to die at 60 of a heart attack than to live to 65 go senile or get Alteizmers(sp) disease and cause the brain to go.
I hate the fact that most access seems to be beyond the range of my 2400bps modem. What a crap. At any rate I believe that most people who are technically inclined could (in the future of course) be able to become partly cyborgenetic and give up the need to actually not be connected to the net. I remember an episode of "The Outer Limits" where all of humanity had their brains connected up to a computer network. Very cool. I think that this guy is just whiny.
Why can't people just use a hand operated one? The only way you could use anything acurately enough for finite motions like that would be if you had ballet lessons. There are certain activities that one cannot do if one is not endowed with ability and the use of various limbs. If you don't have eyes chances the possibility of effectively playing something like quake would be nil. Unless you have effective, subjective methods of auditory display. ex..
You see someone off in the distance you pull your machine gun from it's strap. You fire into your enemy. He fills with bullets and then sinks to the ground in a pool of blood.
Considering the affinity around here with FPS games like quake I am sure mice will continue to have a long life span.
How do you use a degree like that? Recycle? House training a dog? Without practal applications math just dosn't work at all. All you have are fantasy and myth with a lot a hocus pocus in between. At least with an english major or a philosophy major you can take that data and maybe apply it to some sort of diplomatic group or sociology work or something.
How many suicides do people in math degrees have?
If people were to allow society to catch up with math (or just have math stand still) so that interesting uses of esoteric stuff occurs then perhaps it can be of use. Besides who says that the "newest" stuff is actually the most correct. Wasn't the structure of DNA only discovered 50 years ago or thereabouts? What good does it do if you have all these wonderful theories and nothing to do with them?
Well your comment about slashdot I think is a little biased. I think there is a big difference between a person who has math info and one who has information regarding computers and the like. The separation between those in the math world and those in the computer world ended with the use of the personal computer. Once computers didn't cost $9,999 (taken from a magazine in 1979) people could use a computer without needing a Phd degree in math.
Personally I shudder to think what having to take all that math could do to a person if they had to get a job in something like computers! Basically it's nice to do something with math; however the approach to the subject needs a little work. It seems that the higher you go in math the more bland and unapproachable the subject becoms and the more difficult (difficulty!) it becomes. Why can't people produce a nice graphical textbook about complex math subjects with plents of examples and problems to work on? I even see calculus books that fall victim to the same type of thing. If anyone really cares I think that stories about random complex mathmatical subjects should not be covered if we don't have some of the more interesting political subjects. I have a bias towards things that have a lasting importance versus things that have a limited appeal. How can you tell little Billy about STW? You can't. Can you tell Billy about the current political situation in the Balkans (at least easier than some topic where most of the areas in math you can't get to with graduate levels of math education).
And for the mentality that Americans being brain dead and the rest of the world having a natural brilliance towards math I would beg to differ. I think it's only in places in the US where people have the free time and material wealth to do research and be able to have means to feed themselves makes things like this possible?
Are there any good textbooks (graphical, examples galore, problems) that would make someone an Einstein a little easier? Real world examples?
Well actually I think confusion is a very bad thing. I really want to persue more of the interesting stuff in science. I am currently having a bear of a time with Calculus (most likely failure) and find that confusion causes people undue levels of negative energy. Statements such as these most likely have revelence to only about 10 people in the world. And of those 10 about 3 are actually qualified to do any of these things that they talk about. Then about 1 person is left who can do this without getting a very large migrane or stroke.
If you wanted to get revenge just do a couple of things. Distribute leaflets or handbills downtown or from a byplane about how much or a crook they are.
Take them to court for selling fradulent merchandice and tell Intel too. I am sure they would be very interested in their actions as well.
Well what about the risk? I like to think that I don't want to have problems with my hardware any more than usual. Usually when I have hardware problems they are fatal hardware problems. Doing something risky such as increasing the operating temperature of a CPU is one of these problems. Why would a company sell chips operating at a certain frequency or level of transistors? If there is a little extra speed why not just take it and use it to increase the base level of the chip? Maybe you have a great deal of money to throw around but I do not.
I am of the opinion that employment is the only thing keeping people from being bums and staving off eventual death. Why would anyone risk it just to sell a few chips? Wouldn't someone eventually figure it out if they run a processor specific program (say a game) and then it wouldn't work? Even this crappy scam couldn't work for maybe say about a couple of days.
Well I hate to say this but I really don't think so. With the backing of Microsoft I don't think they could loose if they put fritos in computers. Besides I think that intel machines are more oriented to math intensive operations wheras AMD chips are focused on graphics rendering. No I really don't know what you like but I sure would like good math preformance instead of a bunch of pretty pictures.
I don't particularly like that idea. It seems like that would increase disk space which I feel is at a premuim at the current ammount of time. Unless you are developing something with 1,000,000,000 lines of code you can easily wate or get a faster machine if you feel the need for speed.
well maybe military force but how likely is that?
Then who would buy it?
Seriously one of the main things about linux is its ability to be compatable with itself. We really don't have to pull an NT manuver with linux and have a version that is compatable with other versions (win95/98) and a version that is compatable with none (NT) there are already enough problems with some features already in some distributions.
Well obviously you wanted to push buttons so here you go:
1. You can do that however cygnus already has proprietary extensions and services. The rest of the tools are not theirs to regulate terms of.
2. Impossible for code that is already liscenced under the GNU GPL you would have a rather big legal figh on your hands. That's even worse for share holders in general to have a bad image for the company.
3. Again impossible because the original code was under a liscence which makes changing it for another impossible.
4. Well if your product is really popular you don't have a prayer of stopping pirates. Look at how many sites you get if you go to google, altivista, alltheweb or others under the keyword "warez" lots huh? The only way to have people not pirate your stuff is if it's pretty dull stuff that no one cares about. I dare to bet that no one has pirated Mathmatica or Maple for linux to a warez site.
As a public company you have an obligation to give people a fair shake. If you don't do this you will loose as many customeers as you gain through the practices that you outlined. In fact you might have to file for chapter 14 if you do that.
A question for you: How long do you think that it would be before other kernel developers were to do something similar to the real linux kernel if Red Hat did something like this? I would suspect even if they turn into finks they still cannot do any real harm. What is the limitation by the way for hd's in linux?
Well the most you can really say is that they could have a similar ecconomic model. Even if they charge for the OS people still have choices for linux: Debian, slackware, etc. Redhat is not linux and people should really understand that.