Ok I don't mean to be critical but have you done a simple task "A third grader in his first basic class" could do. Just fire up gdb or use strace and run apprunner specifically see where and when the code is crashing on your machine. Perhaps run the code from a command line and see if it outputs any error message. On the windows version of the code you can see specifically where the code fails if you just run the thing from a dos prompt. Yes I admit that Mozilla is a bit bloated but that is all optional bloat anyway. I take it you cannot improve the code with the arguments given thus far. Now I will admit that I have not contributed to the mozilla project but at least take an active part in helping them with some material. I see comments like these as nihilistic and nonproductive without valuable data backing them up.
Actually HAL was somewhat able to function correctly. The ability to have AI in an operating system would be a very significant advance. I cannot at this time see anything like that being developed for windwows; not even remotely. Basically if that were said that would mean that it W2k would be more advanced than linux. I realize that perhaps it was an unstable AI but never conceede any point to the enemy if you are to win in debate. If your position is important to your just stick to bare facts. A great deal of mishaps in this world are directly related to unintended consequences.
Well I think you should try debian then. Debian has a package called menu which creates a very nice version of the/Program Files concept. Under icewm (looks convincely enough like windows 95) and just hit the button that would be where start is. All programs that have the nice GUI interface are under categorized menus and are easily launchable. This can give even a newbie a chance to use the programs at first glance. Also given the fact that when xdm starts up it allows a user never even to have to look at a command line again after the initial install. Now this is not to say that a person will never need to use the command line but for most "common" tasks this will work. The commands dpkg -i and dpkg -r work great for upgrading software.
One really good question is the reason that perhaps there are less games out for most consoles (in sheer volume) compared to PCs and the playstation is because it's harder to produce the games in the first place? How does one go about actually writing one of these. What is the format (game system) that can hold the most data. What I am really concerned about is long games that have interssting plots and not 100% thrilling graphics (although they really can't hurt).
Why put out something that people will not use anyway? I mean if you have a computer why not buy games from people like ID or others who actually can make quality games of the sort that people rave out about for 10+ years (still remember doom). As far as internet access if you are an idiot AOL will do nicely and cheaply compared to anything that sega could do for that market sector anyway.
Actually most of the playstation's strength is the fact that it can play CDs and use all the space on such a high capacity medium. Essentially most of the stuff playstation does is pre-rendered which really is quite crappy compared to what a good high end video card could do in PC. Sega's systems were good but they really didn't catch on compared to the SNES.
The problem that I have is that typical password schemes for web mail and other passwords limit them to something less than 8 characters alpha numeric. I have a 23 character password in use and works pretty well on my debian box at home. I just enabled the md5 hash thing in/etc/login.defs and off it went.
because the problem with that is the person has to have the internet in the first place for computer side encryption to be effective. That is the only thing that prevents me from actually using pgp/gnupg/pgpi or others. If I have a concern with my health or welfare I would like to have a timely, easy to use system. That being said at the college where I go to there is a two pass system of using one's birthdate and SSN to access schedule, grade, course, etc info. So just balance this with how much use the system will actually get with what people need. Industrial espionage can be dealt with harshly and quickly.
Well I believe in this. I realy don't have much of a choice not to run linux anyway. I had substandard hardware and little money. I ran dos for a while but it really got frustrating when good open source programs started to not give a working dos version or just not give me the features that I wanted. I believe that the first program that did this was angband. Sometimes even I the greate linux believer feels that sometimes that the software is bloated and slow. Recent experiences with gimp and X give me cause to believe this. Generally however linux is a good solution. Now I do believe that if a group of engineers and human interaction specalists spent time designing the PalmOS than it is probably a very good solution and I would be loathe to replace an OS that I cannot get a new copy of if I want it back (like a CD or something sorry I still cannot connect to the server to see how they get it on there). Eventually companies possibly even microsoft will produce quality stuff that could surpass linux in every area. This is possible if they think they feel the heat. All they have to do is get a great deal of the people from MIT and related schools and pay them bucketloads of money and perhaps they can do something. This is well within the power of Microsoft. I just think that this discovery was a test to see if something could be done. Possibly even something a college student dreamed up for a final project in some CS or EE class. To bring up the poster he most likely did have valid points. I also concur that in fact slashdot is a highly violatile environment. (No I did not moderate this and have not had moderator level access in any way for several months. In fact I only moderated once) What has to be said is that in any group that is pretty much homogenous that many people will react negatively and a small minority will act reactionarily. That is the nature of the beast.
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I really would like to know for example if it were be possible to create your own roms for your own and how to perhaps install them? I haven't the faintest idea of how to do anything of the sort. What would be really cool and fast would be to have all the essential utilities and perhaps even a web server on a rom chip so as to prevent anything bad happening to a web page or critical system use. Updating the kernel could be a problem but still solvable.
For all intents and purposes most people connotate the "look and feel" aspect of the interface with the interface. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck then chances are it's a duck of some kind. If you got a clone of win98 and made it for the mac and it did everything that 98 is supposed to do is it not the OS itself if it was rewritten? I would still question that but logically it would be the same and would be acceptable in he same circumstances.
Well just think of what most people expect. Perhaps it could be a novelty. I remember an article in the LinuxGazette a while ago about using a regular old ppp connection to create a part time web page using some crap one like geocities,xoom,or tripod as a page that would have the ip address of the machine on the page as a link. This would be updated every time the machine went down to show it is down or every time the ip changed. It is most likely in the archives.
Well I for one really think that having linux in more places means more of a choice. But aside from that it seems perfectly logical that one can have a similar platform and to use all it's nice features. Just think of all the power that could mean. For the average shmoe it could mean that they really don't have to buy a whole bulky computer or even a laptop. They just have to get a Palm and they can have their own web page with cgi and all the extras! Quite nice. It really sucks that I can't connect to the page. The ping times are reaching almost 4000ms at their server.
maybe it's just me but to me unless there is some form of static music sounds like music sounds like music at the same volume. Is there any real way to tell the difference. What's wrong with the original sound cards. I never really owned one that worked with anything let alone linux.
Why are plugins necessary for sound? If you add random effects to the sound then the sound will have changed it's quality. Are they for quality control?
How does one gain the ability to seemingly be able to do anything interesting with hardware without assembly or head banging. How does one get the formal skill to do that?
Tell me how can a larger louder stero sytem enhance actual sound quality or purity? what are the standards for these things besides personal preference.
I have a little theory. In all the hurry what happened to the pc speaker? I have always thought that someone who has much more education than me could code something that would approximate a random sampling of the music then translate the sound to notes and then produce the notes at a specific frequency on the pc speaker. There is a kernel patch that allows.wav's to be kind of send through the speaker in a garbled manner but it dosn't work too good. I have an hp48g calculator and it can produce entire symphonies (Bach I believe) from the sound in the speaker. A remember a program for dos that had files that could create whole songs and the like from the pc speaker but this stuff is conspiciously(sp) absent in linux which should be able to do more.
It's really not that inferior. I love the way Netscape displays text and allows me to change things. I have had that WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP IE crash on me many times. Most of the stuff that I do is dependent on having a good display of things. I hardly think that a "history list" is innovation. Plus I almost never need all the bleeding edge features that people think that IE has anyway. How many sites and or webmasters can effectively use DHTML or CSS or almost any other "innovation" that IE has in it? I haven't see one that really is used on a daily basis by most people in technical oriented sectors. Netscape works find for me.
Sure someone could use whatever they want and anyone can just wear whatever they want to work or in public. Someone could write their own OS and then call it whatever they wanted and use it. What is wrong about windows is basically that there are no real commercial products that can compete with it because they were "bought out", squashed, distroyed, or just plain FUDed out of existence. Even in communist countries where there is so little freedom there is still the chance for free thought you just can't display or speak it openly. What MS has done is make any other choice to look quite insane to most people with their "market dominance". If you were to suggest linux to a group of MS using people the response is usually not very good. At the college where I went they basically haven't used anything but MS products in any way, shape, or form. In fact in any of the places where there has been a good chance to use linux or at least try it out there has been no activity there. That is because the choice would seem "crazy". Now why is this you ask? Because all the applications are written for the OS and no one will change. Many people are inherently lazy and do not like to change anything. When sysadmins don't have anything to do they end up wasting time and resources. For example I am typing this right now the person who is supposed to be doing his job is playing some stupid MS platform specific game and doing nothing even remotely related to his job description. There is no challenge and no need because everything is "working". I say that if all these people who tout windows were to take a step back and look at things they would find that what they are doing will eventually put them out of jobs in one sense. If all people have to do is just "reboot the computer" what more will there to be to fixing windows machines?
I never intended that. I believe that something can be large and complex and still not functional. For example how about a tank. A tank is better than a car because it can withstand extremes of heat/cold/pressure/radiation or just about anything that can be thrown at it just short of an anti-tank missle. But just try driving the tank to work on the freeway. Not only will you quickly discover that even though the tank is a good tool it causes more pain, death, distruction, and jail time than it's worth. And yes microsoft could be blamed for the problamatic dirvers if they construct the APIs that are responsible, the OS that they have to work under, or the processor that the Operating System works on.
Ok I believe that for the "average" person it is perhaps a bad thing to not use windows. But consider that following:
1. How many times have you had to use faulty programs and or drivers? (ex. the computer just froze! the solution every time something bad goes wrong with a windows program is to just reboot the system. Since this process is basically flawless in regard to restoring the initial state of the program/OS no one complains. The culture has also been altered so that lost work is an excusable excuse in most areas of education and or work so that everyone expects that windows will fail). 2. Extreme cost. Again the culture of today sees nothing wrong with paying several thousand dollars for something that has a limited value. What usually happens with programs is that since people have spend the big $$$s they do not want to (usually) spend more so they use programs for functions that they shouldn't have been used for in the first place. (ex. Office Suites ala Office 2000 for everything because you can't afford a new application after paying $369 dollars for the professional edition with your current pay check) 3. Lowered functionality: Because the system requires you to buy everything many programs try to do everything at once and not a little at a time the way linux/solaris/BSD/even pure dos used to do. A 386 with linux on it can often do taks more efficiently than a PII 400MHz NT4.0 machine can.
What about the ability to take the raw output of the movie on your television screen and take those raw impulses and recode them into something like MPEG-3 or something and have the contents of the movie? Is this impossible?
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Ok I don't mean to be critical but have you done a simple task "A third grader in his first basic class" could do. Just fire up gdb or use strace and run apprunner specifically see where and when the code is crashing on your machine. Perhaps run the code from a command line and see if it outputs any error message. On the windows version of the code you can see specifically where the code fails if you just run the thing from a dos prompt. Yes I admit that Mozilla is a bit bloated but that is all optional bloat anyway. I take it you cannot improve the code with the arguments given thus far. Now I will admit that I have not contributed to the mozilla project but at least take an active part in helping them with some material. I see comments like these as nihilistic and nonproductive without valuable data backing them up.
Actually HAL was somewhat able to function correctly. The ability to have AI in an operating system would be a very significant advance. I cannot at this time see anything like that being developed for windwows; not even remotely. Basically if that were said that would mean that it W2k would be more advanced than linux. I realize that perhaps it was an unstable AI but never conceede any point to the enemy if you are to win in debate. If your position is important to your just stick to bare facts. A great deal of mishaps in this world are directly related to unintended consequences.
Well I think you should try debian then. Debian has a package called menu which creates a very nice version of the /Program Files concept. Under icewm (looks convincely enough like windows 95) and just hit the button that would be where start is. All programs that have the nice GUI interface are under categorized menus and are easily launchable. This can give even a newbie a chance to use the programs at first glance. Also given the fact that when xdm starts up it allows a user never even to have to look at a command line again after the initial install. Now this is not to say that a person will never need to use the command line but for most "common" tasks this will work. The commands dpkg -i and dpkg -r work great for upgrading software.
One really good question is the reason that perhaps there are less games out for most consoles (in sheer volume) compared to PCs and the playstation is because it's harder to produce the games in the first place? How does one go about actually writing one of these. What is the format (game system) that can hold the most data. What I am really concerned about is long games that have interssting plots and not 100% thrilling graphics (although they really can't hurt).
What exactly is this mem e virus? word play?
Why put out something that people will not use anyway? I mean if you have a computer why not buy games from people like ID or others who actually can make quality games of the sort that people rave out about for 10+ years (still remember doom). As far as internet access if you are an idiot AOL will do nicely and cheaply compared to anything that sega could do for that market sector anyway.
Actually most of the playstation's strength is the fact that it can play CDs and use all the space on such a high capacity medium. Essentially most of the stuff playstation does is pre-rendered which really is quite crappy compared to what a good high end video card could do in PC. Sega's systems were good but they really didn't catch on compared to the SNES.
The problem that I have is that typical password schemes for web mail and other passwords limit them to something less than 8 characters alpha numeric. I have a 23 character password in use and works pretty well on my debian box at home. I just enabled the md5 hash thing in /etc/login.defs and off it went.
because the problem with that is the person has to have the internet in the first place for computer side encryption to be effective. That is the only thing that prevents me from actually using pgp/gnupg/pgpi or others. If I have a concern with my health or welfare I would like to have a timely, easy to use system. That being said at the college where I go to there is a two pass system of using one's birthdate and SSN to access schedule, grade, course, etc info. So just balance this with how much use the system will actually get with what people need. Industrial espionage can be dealt with harshly and quickly.
Well I believe in this. I realy don't have much of a choice not to run linux anyway. I had substandard hardware and little money. I ran dos for a while but it really got frustrating when good open source programs started to not give a working dos version or just not give me the features that I wanted. I believe that the first program that did this was angband. Sometimes even I the greate linux believer feels that sometimes that the software is bloated and slow. Recent experiences with gimp and X give me cause to believe this. Generally however linux is a good solution. Now I do believe that if a group of engineers and human interaction specalists spent time designing the PalmOS than it is probably a very good solution and I would be loathe to replace an OS that I cannot get a new copy of if I want it back (like a CD or something sorry I still cannot connect to the server to see how they get it on there). Eventually companies possibly even microsoft will produce quality stuff that could surpass linux in every area. This is possible if they think they feel the heat. All they have to do is get a great deal of the people from MIT and related schools and pay them bucketloads of money and perhaps they can do something. This is well within the power of Microsoft. I just think that this discovery was a test to see if something could be done. Possibly even something a college student dreamed up for a final project in some CS or EE class. To bring up the poster he most likely did have valid points. I also concur that in fact slashdot is a highly violatile environment. (No I did not moderate this and have not had moderator level access in any way for several months. In fact I only moderated once) What has to be said is that in any group that is pretty much homogenous that many people will react negatively and a small minority will act reactionarily. That is the nature of the beast.
I really would like to know for example if it were be possible to create your own roms for your own and how to perhaps install them? I haven't the faintest idea of how to do anything of the sort. What would be really cool and fast would be to have all the essential utilities and perhaps even a web server on a rom chip so as to prevent anything bad happening to a web page or critical system use. Updating the kernel could be a problem but still solvable.
For all intents and purposes most people connotate the "look and feel" aspect of the interface with the interface. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck then chances are it's a duck of some kind. If you got a clone of win98 and made it for the mac and it did everything that 98 is supposed to do is it not the OS itself if it was rewritten? I would still question that but logically it would be the same and would be acceptable in he same circumstances.
Well just think of what most people expect. Perhaps it could be a novelty. I remember an article in the LinuxGazette a while ago about using a regular old ppp connection to create a part time web page using some crap one like geocities,xoom,or tripod as a page that would have the ip address of the machine on the page as a link. This would be updated every time the machine went down to show it is down or every time the ip changed. It is most likely in the archives.
Well I for one really think that having linux in more places means more of a choice. But aside from that it seems perfectly logical that one can have a similar platform and to use all it's nice features. Just think of all the power that could mean. For the average shmoe it could mean that they really don't have to buy a whole bulky computer or even a laptop. They just have to get a Palm and they can have their own web page with cgi and all the extras! Quite nice. It really sucks that I can't connect to the page. The ping times are reaching almost 4000ms at their server.
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maybe it's just me but to me unless there is some form of static music sounds like music sounds like music at the same volume. Is there any real way to tell the difference. What's wrong with the original sound cards. I never really owned one that worked with anything let alone linux.
Why are plugins necessary for sound? If you add random effects to the sound then the sound will have changed it's quality. Are they for quality control?
Maybe I am either an idiot or cannot afford multiple OC3 lines and $30,000 worth of hardware and a neural communications link but what is shoutcast?
How does one gain the ability to seemingly be able to do anything interesting with hardware without assembly or head banging. How does one get the formal skill to do that?
Tell me how can a larger louder stero sytem enhance actual sound quality or purity? what are the standards for these things besides personal preference.
I have a little theory. In all the hurry what happened to the pc speaker? I have always thought that someone who has much more education than me could code something that would approximate a random sampling of the music then translate the sound to notes and then produce the notes at a specific frequency on the pc speaker. There is a kernel patch that allows .wav's to be kind of send through the speaker in a garbled manner but it dosn't work too good. I have an hp48g calculator and it can produce entire symphonies (Bach I believe) from the sound in the speaker. A remember a program for dos that had files that could create whole songs and the like from the pc speaker but this stuff is conspiciously(sp) absent in linux which should be able to do more.
Just how? All people have to do is to reverse engineer the protocols or emulate them and presto! instant copliance.
It's really not that inferior. I love the way Netscape displays text and allows me to change things. I have had that WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP IE crash on me many times. Most of the stuff that I do is dependent on having a good display of things. I hardly think that a "history list" is innovation. Plus I almost never need all the bleeding edge features that people think that IE has anyway. How many sites and or webmasters can effectively use DHTML or CSS or almost any other "innovation" that IE has in it? I haven't see one that really is used on a daily basis by most people in technical oriented sectors. Netscape works find for me.
Sure someone could use whatever they want and anyone can just wear whatever they want to work or in public. Someone could write their own OS and then call it whatever they wanted and use it. What is wrong about windows is basically that there are no real commercial products that can compete with it because they were "bought out", squashed, distroyed, or just plain FUDed out of existence. Even in communist countries where there is so little freedom there is still the chance for free thought you just can't display or speak it openly. What MS has done is make any other choice to look quite insane to most people with their "market dominance". If you were to suggest linux to a group of MS using people the response is usually not very good. At the college where I went they basically haven't used anything but MS products in any way, shape, or form. In fact in any of the places where there has been a good chance to use linux or at least try it out there has been no activity there. That is because the choice would seem "crazy". Now why is this you ask? Because all the applications are written for the OS and no one will change. Many people are inherently lazy and do not like to change anything. When sysadmins don't have anything to do they end up wasting time and resources. For example I am typing this right now the person who is supposed to be doing his job is playing some stupid MS platform specific game and doing nothing even remotely related to his job description. There is no challenge and no need because everything is "working". I say that if all these people who tout windows were to take a step back and look at things they would find that what they are doing will eventually put them out of jobs in one sense. If all people have to do is just "reboot the computer" what more will there to be to fixing windows machines?
I never intended that. I believe that something can be large and complex and still not functional. For example how about a tank. A tank is better than a car because it can withstand extremes of heat/cold/pressure/radiation or just about anything that can be thrown at it just short of an anti-tank missle. But just try driving the tank to work on the freeway. Not only will you quickly discover that even though the tank is a good tool it causes more pain, death, distruction, and jail time than it's worth. And yes microsoft could be blamed for the problamatic dirvers if they construct the APIs that are responsible, the OS that they have to work under, or the processor that the Operating System works on.
Ok I believe that for the "average" person it is perhaps a bad thing to not use windows. But consider that following:
1. How many times have you had to use faulty programs and or drivers? (ex. the computer just froze! the solution every time something bad goes wrong with a windows program is to just reboot the system. Since this process is basically flawless in regard to restoring the initial state of the program/OS no one complains. The culture has also been altered so that lost work is an excusable excuse in most areas of education and or work so that everyone expects that windows will fail).
2. Extreme cost. Again the culture of today sees nothing wrong with paying several thousand dollars for something that has a limited value. What usually happens with programs is that since people have spend the big $$$s they do not want to (usually) spend more so they use programs for functions that they shouldn't have been used for in the first place. (ex. Office Suites ala Office 2000 for everything because you can't afford a new application after paying $369 dollars for the professional edition with your current pay check)
3. Lowered functionality: Because the system requires you to buy everything many programs try to do everything at once and not a little at a time the way linux/solaris/BSD/even pure dos used to do. A 386 with linux on it can often do taks more efficiently than a PII 400MHz NT4.0 machine can.
What about the ability to take the raw output of the movie on your television screen and take those raw impulses and recode them into something like MPEG-3 or something and have the contents of the movie? Is this impossible?