I have a BS in Computer Science, switched my major from chemistry after my sophomore year, also very strong in biology, biochem, and math. No worries there.
Only if she wants to go into Computer Science. What if she wanted to go into Political Science, Biology, or Medicine?
She does want to go into medicine, which is where my chemistry and biology experience come in handy. I don't have a degree in biology, but I can easily teach it at a high school level. Likewise for chemistry and most everything else at a high school level. It's not hard. Not every high school biology teacher has a BS in Biology, not every high school chemistry teacher has a BS in Chemistry. So I cover the basics, and private tutors and AP classes at the local community college teach her the rest. They have labs and everything. You don't think I considered or researched this stuff before I agreed to let her homeschool?
She wants to go to Medical School. In a Public HS she can be taught by people that have Degrees in the Sciences and thus might be more able to help her advance then her parents (assuming that either of you don't have a BS in Biology or some science).
I have a BS in Computer Science, switched my major from chemistry after my sophomore year, also very strong in biology, biochem, and math. No worries there.
IB, AP, and Dual Credit courses will but her ahead of the regular curve and get her college credit while in HS.
These are available for her from the local community college, as a homeschooler. Of course, I pay for them just like college credits, but in return she earns college credits for them the same way she would for any AP class in high school. She will be taking those next year once she is prepared for AP level classes.
Labs. most Homeschooled parents are not going to be dissecting Cow Hearts and Whole Cats to name two of the labs she would do in the Dual Credit class for Anatomy.
Funny you mentioned that, because we actually just dissected a couple of chicken hearts the other day. She was grossed out but also fascinated.
I'm not saying any of these are not valid points. If the parent is unwilling to participate, or unable to due to financial constraints, or simply uneducated, then homeschooling is *NOT* a good idea. The parents have to take it very, very seriously. And if the parents are uneducated morons, they will raise uneducated morons.:)
It's an utterly illegible scribble of swirls and loops. Unique and completely un-reproducible, perfect for a distinct, identifying marker. Almost like a fingerprint.
As a parent of a highly gifted student, this makes me furious. Budget constraints have killed all gifted programs. I would go so far as say this situation is downright unpatriotic. Gifted kids, our nation’s future leaders, inventors, and decision makers are being short changed. I can afford to send my daughter to a private school for gifted kids, but a gifted child of low income parents has a high likelihood of being screwed.
This is very sad indeed. As someone who was able to benefit from being in several gifted schools, I can definitely attest to the usefulness of such programs. The fact that these are among the first areas cut in order to divert money to the lowest-performing students infuriates me. It's the same in my district, with my daughter.
As a result my daughter never learned to write in cursive
... and nothing of value was lost? I, nor anyone I know, has had any use for knowing this "skill."
likewise. I learned cursive and was forced to use it all through middle school. I switched right back to printing as soon as I was able and all of my written notes all through college were printed. I haven't written cursive in, well, damn. I don't even remember. So yeah, nothing of value lost.
The problem with homeschooling is finding one that isn't rife with ridiculous religious indoctrination.
This was indeed a big problem for me. I finally found one for my daughter but I am not in the habit of advertising on./ so I won't name names.
The curriculum is very thorough, it's completely secular, heavy on research/writing assignments, math, and science, which is exactly what she wanted. The only thing I noticed was that her tutor offered to let her skip the section on Darwin and evolution because "it's a theory that has been proven wrong many, many times." However, it was just the instructors opinion and the Darwin segment of her biology studies was completely free of any mention of intelligent design or the like. So I simply chalked it up to it being both her opinion and her fear of offending religious wackos that have a problem with their kids learning science.
100% homeschooled children will never gain the life-skills they need. The one thing schools do teach children is that you aren't always going to like the people you are stuck working with and that a thick skin is essential to succeeding in the world.
Gonna call bullshit on this one. Exactly which life-skills do you need that can only be obtained in school?
I've volunteered with homeschool groups and had many classmates who were home schooled for their earlier education... and I've never met one that I'd say was well-adjusted.
My experience is 100% the opposite. I suppose it depends on your definition of "well-adjusted." My nephew went from homeschool to public elementary, and so far has been disappointed how much time is wasted, and that he can't just finish all his homework in class. (And presumably go home at lunch time).
Exactly. Many homeschool kids are very outgoing, gregarious, self-confident, and eager to speak their mind. This is because they haven't had to endure years of soul-crushing social conditioning in which they learn that differing opinions are mocked and intelligence is best kept hidden for fear of being too "nerdy". People in society are not used to seeing self-confident children and say, "Oh look, that kid is strange because he is able to articulate what he is thinking."
I just don't understand why we worship sports stars while we ridicule science and intelligence.
My 14 year old daughter realized on her own that as far as education goes, high school is completely useless. She begged us for months to allow her to homeschool and presented quite a few well-thought and well-researched arguments. Her mind is set on medical school with a determination that is astonishing to me, and she insists that there is no way she will get the education she needs in public school.
In the end, I could really only find one argument *against* homeschooling, and that is the whole 'social awkwardness' thing, where you are perceived to be some sort of weirdo because you don't go to parties on the weekends and do all of the other typical high school bullshit. But she still has a ton of friends that she talks to and there is no social problem there. After 4 months of a combination of internet homeschooling and private tutoring, she is probably half a year ahead of her classmates already, not to mention the fact that she is so much happier and easier to be around because she's not constantly frustrated by some high school drama.
Maybe if you never allow your kids the opportunity to experience public schools, they might grow up and resent you for having "robbed" them of the chance to go to school like a "normal" person. But for anyone who has experienced the hellish den of conformity and social conditioning that is public schooling, the opportunity to learn at home, at your own pace, is a fantastic idea. I wish I had had the opportunity.
I'd like to hear the anti-homeschool argument again. Pros: pretty much everything, if done correctly and you've already allowed your kid to socialize properly and build a group of friends with which she can maintain contact and socialize. Cons: um, nothing?
The Department of Justice announced on Friday that Attila Nemeth, 26, a Hungarian citizen, was sentenced by a U.S. District Judge and will serve a prison sentence for transmitting malicious code to Marriott International Corporation’s computers and threatening to reveal confidential information obtained from the company’s systems if Marriott didn’t offer him a job.
No friggin' way. Marriott got hacked by Attila the Hun? Really? You can't make this stuff up.
The proof starts from the Peano Postulates, which define the natural
numbers N. N is the smallest set satisfying these postulates:
P1. 1 is in N.
P2. If x is in N, then its "successor" x' is in N.
P3. There is no x such that x' = 1.
P4. If x isn't 1, then there is a y in N such that y' = x.
P5. If S is a subset of N, 1 is in S, and the implication
(x in S => x' in S) holds, then S = N.
Then you have to define addition recursively:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 1, then define a + b = a'
(using P1 and P2). If b isn't 1, then let c' = b, with c in N
(using P4), and define a + b = (a + c)'.
Then you have to define 2:
Def: 2 = 1'
2 is in N by P1, P2, and the definition of 2.
Theorem: 1 + 1 = 2
Proof: Use the first part of the definition of + with a = b = 1.
Then 1 + 1 = 1' = 2 Q.E.D.
Note: There is an alternate formulation of the Peano Postulates which
replaces 1 with 0 in P1, P3, P4, and P5. Then you have to change the
definition of addition to this:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 0, then define a + b = a.
If b isn't 0, then let c' = b, with c in N, and define
a + b = (a + c)'.
You also have to define 1 = 0', and 2 = 1'. Then the proof of the
Theorem above is a little different:
Proof: Use the second part of the definition of + first:
1 + 1 = (1 + 0)'
Now use the first part of the definition of + on the sum in
parentheses: 1 + 1 = (1)' = 1' = 2 Q.E.D.
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Sounds like we need a Google Glass version of WorldStarHipHop to capture first-person violence on a low-res camera.
And Marilyn Manson. He's still a bad guy, right?
2.4GHz can be done on your CPU.It might not make sense, but it makes sense.
It might not make sense, but it makes sense.
It might not make sense
Nope.
How do you get the solder to adhere so well to fur? I've always had trouble with that.
It's almost as if they were intentionally trying to create the biggest, most evil company ever known to man.
They could always use the cheap, efficient pipewrench decryption algorithm. Works every time.
Um, it says "speaker"...
Yes, so it does. I still stand by my weasel comment though.
Coming soon to an America near you!
That may or may not be sufficiently unoffensive.
Audiophiles are pretty much the dumbest group of people ever. No, you can't hear a difference between this $5000 speaker and this $150 speaker.
Um, you're dead wrong about that one.
Yeah, you're obviously using the wrong cable. If you had something like this maybe you would have a different opinion.
For the record, anyone that pays $1100 for an HDMI cable should be mauled by angry weasels.
If you're gonna go PC, you might as well go full PC. "Little people shitting on the age-enhanced." That sounds good, right?
I have a BS in Computer Science, switched my major from chemistry after my sophomore year, also very strong in biology, biochem, and math. No worries there.
Only if she wants to go into Computer Science. What if she wanted to go into Political Science, Biology, or Medicine?
She does want to go into medicine, which is where my chemistry and biology experience come in handy. I don't have a degree in biology, but I can easily teach it at a high school level. Likewise for chemistry and most everything else at a high school level. It's not hard. Not every high school biology teacher has a BS in Biology, not every high school chemistry teacher has a BS in Chemistry. So I cover the basics, and private tutors and AP classes at the local community college teach her the rest. They have labs and everything. You don't think I considered or researched this stuff before I agreed to let her homeschool?
Not everyone is as big of an asshole as you are.
No, champ. I was on the other end of the mocking, thanks.
Arguments For Public School
She wants to go to Medical School. In a Public HS she can be taught by people that have Degrees in the Sciences and thus might be more able to help her advance then her parents (assuming that either of you don't have a BS in Biology or some science).
I have a BS in Computer Science, switched my major from chemistry after my sophomore year, also very strong in biology, biochem, and math. No worries there.
IB, AP, and Dual Credit courses will but her ahead of the regular curve and get her college credit while in HS.
These are available for her from the local community college, as a homeschooler. Of course, I pay for them just like college credits, but in return she earns college credits for them the same way she would for any AP class in high school. She will be taking those next year once she is prepared for AP level classes.
Labs. most Homeschooled parents are not going to be dissecting Cow Hearts and Whole Cats to name two of the labs she would do in the Dual Credit class for Anatomy.
Funny you mentioned that, because we actually just dissected a couple of chicken hearts the other day. She was grossed out but also fascinated.
I'm not saying any of these are not valid points. If the parent is unwilling to participate, or unable to due to financial constraints, or simply uneducated, then homeschooling is *NOT* a good idea. The parents have to take it very, very seriously. And if the parents are uneducated morons, they will raise uneducated morons. :)
It's an utterly illegible scribble of swirls and loops. Unique and completely un-reproducible, perfect for a distinct, identifying marker. Almost like a fingerprint.
As a parent of a highly gifted student, this makes me furious. Budget constraints have killed all gifted programs. I would go so far as say this situation is downright unpatriotic. Gifted kids, our nation’s future leaders, inventors, and decision makers are being short changed. I can afford to send my daughter to a private school for gifted kids, but a gifted child of low income parents has a high likelihood of being screwed.
This is very sad indeed. As someone who was able to benefit from being in several gifted schools, I can definitely attest to the usefulness of such programs. The fact that these are among the first areas cut in order to divert money to the lowest-performing students infuriates me. It's the same in my district, with my daughter.
As a result my daughter never learned to write in cursive
... and nothing of value was lost? I, nor anyone I know, has had any use for knowing this "skill."
likewise. I learned cursive and was forced to use it all through middle school. I switched right back to printing as soon as I was able and all of my written notes all through college were printed. I haven't written cursive in, well, damn. I don't even remember. So yeah, nothing of value lost.
I'll mod any female /.ers Insightful if in their reply they post links to webcam of themselves and their willing female partner performing sexy time.
On 4chan, I believe the phrase is "tits or GTFO". Succinct and to the point.
The problem with homeschooling is finding one that isn't rife with ridiculous religious indoctrination.
This was indeed a big problem for me. I finally found one for my daughter but I am not in the habit of advertising on ./ so I won't name names.
The curriculum is very thorough, it's completely secular, heavy on research/writing assignments, math, and science, which is exactly what she wanted. The only thing I noticed was that her tutor offered to let her skip the section on Darwin and evolution because "it's a theory that has been proven wrong many, many times." However, it was just the instructors opinion and the Darwin segment of her biology studies was completely free of any mention of intelligent design or the like. So I simply chalked it up to it being both her opinion and her fear of offending religious wackos that have a problem with their kids learning science.
They won't have the experience of meeting and mocking people who are different from them.
There, fixed that for ya.
100% homeschooled children will never gain the life-skills they need. The one thing schools do teach children is that you aren't always going to like the people you are stuck working with and that a thick skin is essential to succeeding in the world.
Gonna call bullshit on this one. Exactly which life-skills do you need that can only be obtained in school?
I've volunteered with homeschool groups and had many classmates who were home schooled for their earlier education... and I've never met one that I'd say was well-adjusted.
My experience is 100% the opposite. I suppose it depends on your definition of "well-adjusted." My nephew went from homeschool to public elementary, and so far has been disappointed how much time is wasted, and that he can't just finish all his homework in class. (And presumably go home at lunch time).
Exactly. Many homeschool kids are very outgoing, gregarious, self-confident, and eager to speak their mind. This is because they haven't had to endure years of soul-crushing social conditioning in which they learn that differing opinions are mocked and intelligence is best kept hidden for fear of being too "nerdy". People in society are not used to seeing self-confident children and say, "Oh look, that kid is strange because he is able to articulate what he is thinking."
I just don't understand why we worship sports stars while we ridicule science and intelligence.
Mod parent insightful.
My 14 year old daughter realized on her own that as far as education goes, high school is completely useless. She begged us for months to allow her to homeschool and presented quite a few well-thought and well-researched arguments. Her mind is set on medical school with a determination that is astonishing to me, and she insists that there is no way she will get the education she needs in public school.
In the end, I could really only find one argument *against* homeschooling, and that is the whole 'social awkwardness' thing, where you are perceived to be some sort of weirdo because you don't go to parties on the weekends and do all of the other typical high school bullshit. But she still has a ton of friends that she talks to and there is no social problem there. After 4 months of a combination of internet homeschooling and private tutoring, she is probably half a year ahead of her classmates already, not to mention the fact that she is so much happier and easier to be around because she's not constantly frustrated by some high school drama.
Maybe if you never allow your kids the opportunity to experience public schools, they might grow up and resent you for having "robbed" them of the chance to go to school like a "normal" person. But for anyone who has experienced the hellish den of conformity and social conditioning that is public schooling, the opportunity to learn at home, at your own pace, is a fantastic idea. I wish I had had the opportunity.
I'd like to hear the anti-homeschool argument again. Pros: pretty much everything, if done correctly and you've already allowed your kid to socialize properly and build a group of friends with which she can maintain contact and socialize. Cons: um, nothing?
The Department of Justice announced on Friday that Attila Nemeth, 26, a Hungarian citizen, was sentenced by a U.S. District Judge and will serve a prison sentence for transmitting malicious code to Marriott International Corporation’s computers and threatening to reveal confidential information obtained from the company’s systems if Marriott didn’t offer him a job.
No friggin' way. Marriott got hacked by Attila the Hun? Really? You can't make this stuff up.
Ok, let's get technical then.
The proof starts from the Peano Postulates, which define the natural
numbers N. N is the smallest set satisfying these postulates:
P1. 1 is in N.
P2. If x is in N, then its "successor" x' is in N.
P3. There is no x such that x' = 1.
P4. If x isn't 1, then there is a y in N such that y' = x.
P5. If S is a subset of N, 1 is in S, and the implication
(x in S => x' in S) holds, then S = N.
Then you have to define addition recursively:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 1, then define a + b = a'
(using P1 and P2). If b isn't 1, then let c' = b, with c in N
(using P4), and define a + b = (a + c)'.
Then you have to define 2:
Def: 2 = 1'
2 is in N by P1, P2, and the definition of 2.
Theorem: 1 + 1 = 2
Proof: Use the first part of the definition of + with a = b = 1.
Then 1 + 1 = 1' = 2 Q.E.D.
Note: There is an alternate formulation of the Peano Postulates which
replaces 1 with 0 in P1, P3, P4, and P5. Then you have to change the
definition of addition to this:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 0, then define a + b = a.
If b isn't 0, then let c' = b, with c in N, and define
a + b = (a + c)'.
You also have to define 1 = 0', and 2 = 1'. Then the proof of the
Theorem above is a little different:
Proof: Use the second part of the definition of + first:
1 + 1 = (1 + 0)'
Now use the first part of the definition of + on the sum in
parentheses: 1 + 1 = (1)' = 1' = 2 Q.E.D.
In purely mathematical terms, 1+1=2.