And again, WTF? Princes in Late Medieval and RenaissNce Europe frequently indebted themselves go fund military ventures. The foundations of our modern banking and finance system was groups like the Venetian bankers lending money to various European rulers and other interests for military and trading ventures. And how do you suppose those lenders were often paid back... That's right, taxes.
What the fuck are you talking about? Taxation predates currency of any kind by a thousand years at least, and probably much longer than that( and since the earliest urban societies has had the same primary function to create a centralized infrastructure. Whether that's canals, armies, bureaucracy, courts or whatever, that is the purpose of taxation.
So I want to open a widget factory. What do you propose I barter to get financing?
Money evolved precisely because bartering does not scale well. You cannot build a large scale economy with such a system. Even the Romans knew that. They didn't build an empire by trading chickens and bushels of wheat.
And do you want the value of your savings to tank because there's a spike in production of your particular precious metal? Think it doesn't happen, look when China began dumping silver because of the opium wars, causing a massive devaluation of silver prices in the West.
Indeed. One of the things that I find is a problem with really bright people is overconfidence, a belief that because they are brilliant in one area, they therefore are brilliant in all areas. You find this sort of thing with engineers who think they are scientists, doctors who think they are scientists, or scientists who make fools of themselves by making elaborate and tragically awful claims in areas where they have no expertise.
True polymaths are probably so rare that even the most seasoned and well-connected academic won't meet one.
As usual, the fault in these incidents lie with both sides; the cops, for often being quick to move into "riot control" mode, and the protesters, because they believe that nobody will give a shit about their cause if there aren't at least a few of them with blood pouring down their foreheads.
As for the other 98% of us, we just want to get through the day without being fired, mistaken for a protester or having our stupid ass kids that we've invested so much time, money and emotion into getting involved in these protests.
System email has been around for a loooong time, at least since the mid-1960s. However, Shiva and/or his supporters have asserted that Shiva developed some sort of an intra-organizational email system, which is completely false. ARPANet was being used to distribute emails between various organizations since around 1971, and trivially accessible RFCs dating back to the very beginning show the evolution of the early mailbox protocols right up to modern SMTP mail systems today. Shiva had absolutely nothing to do with the evolution of email. It was an all but unknown dead end, until he got busted trying to claim otherwise.
Frauds generally have a hard time finding work after they've been busted. This guy tried to take credit for a helluva lot of work by other people that knew nothing about him.
Larry Roberts developed a formalized email folder structure two years before this EMAIL program existed. Shiva didn't even invent that.
The reason I find Shiva repugnant is becausing he's a lying piece of shit, a fraud who tried to claim invention of email, then radically backpedalled, still not enough, when he was busted. He did not invent email systems, his email program did not inspire any later ones. In short, he was an unknown dead end until he started selling himself as something he never was.
He may have been the first person to drop the hyphen, yes. But the RFCs and other documents show that the terms "electronic mail" and "e-mail" were already in use. Beyond that, he and his supporters have yet to demonstrate that even so far as the acronym "email" without the hyphen was created and/or popularized by him.
To be clear, Tomlinson himself would never make the claim he invented email, e-mail, electronic mail or whatever. What he did was to extend the
mail
and underlying infrastructure to allow the routing of messages based upon whether the recipient was on the local host or on an external host. Email systems most certainly predated his work, and I suspect that you will even find routed electronic mail systems existed before (certainly Telix would fit that category).
Tomlinson is noted because he extended the mail system which had its origins in Multics (functionality was duplicated in Unix) to encompass ARPANet. Later work also allowed mail to be routed via other transmission channels; most famously UUCP and its (in)famous bang paths, which also predate 1978. In fact, by the mid-1970s the technical specifications were at a level that you could open up a copy of email from that period in Alpine or Thunderbird and it would handle it correctly. By the mid-1970s the mail systems available in Unix and ARPANet-capable systems was sufficiently evolved that one could send email from any compatible node (whether ARPANet, UUCP or some other facility) and delivery to other institutions or agencies, both in the US and abroad, was being done.
This history is also nicely documented by the RFCs themselves, you can see the evolution of the Internet mail transit systems from the early Multics and Unix local system only variants all the way to fully routed email by 1973, with improvements after that in the structure of the mbox format itself and in the transmission protocols. This Shiva fellow had absolute nothing to do with any of it. He was not a developer of any of the principle technologies, he was not an author of any of the RFCs, his system did not come into any kind of general use, and even by the early 1980s with the first major BBSs like CompuServe to come online, they all used their own electronic mail systems, while ARPANet continued to grow and the email infrastructure, daemons and clients along with it. His software is a little (actually, until he got busted making absurd claims, pretty much unknown) dead end variant on a concept that dates back a couple of decades before he wrote it.
The mail command, dating back to Multics (and god knows, probably older than that) was a functional mail system, so yes. As with all things Unix, it may not have been that pretty, but one could write an email and the mailer queue would sort out whether it was local delivery or was to be sent out via ARPANet (or possibly some other transmission method like UUCP, which also predates this guy's "all encompassing" mail program). He did not invent email, he did not invent the familiar structure of email (that was established in RFC by 1975), he did not invent a transmission system. He made his own email program that had no discernible adoption, was not the base of any other email technology. It was a dead end whose only notable feature was that it may be the first use of "EMAIL" (as opposed to electronic mail or e-mail, both of which can be found in reference to various other email systems in existence as far back as the 1960s).
ARPANet was connecting all kinds of organizations before 1978. It was inter-organizational at least four or five years before this guy wrote his "email" program.
If he's still claiming that, then he's still a liar. What could be more inter-organizational than the ARPANet mail system that by 1975 was transmitting mail between US government agencies and academia throughout the US, Canada and Western Europe? The RFCs are there to prove it. ARPANet was distributing email to various organizations and agencies four or five years before this idiot's email program was written.
Ayyadurai was shopping himself around as the inventory of email. When he got nailed by several people who demonstrated by simply going through the relevant RFCs dating back to around 1970-71 that this guy had absolutely nothing to do with the development of the electronic mail system that even by 1978 was the prevalent system for much of Western academia, suddenly it became this "I copyrighted a bit of software". He was cut so grossly overinflating his importance that I think you have to call him a liar.
As to Chomsky, as I've said, he most certainly must have been using Unix-based mail back in those days, so I can't figure out how he can justify coming to this guy's defense.
The term "electronic mail" was used to describe the mail system developed along with Unix in 1970-71 (and that itself was originally designed as a compatible rewrite of the Multics mail system). It's possible that the term "email", as opposed to "electronic mail" or "e-mail" may have been first used by this guy, but his mail system had nothing to do with the routed mail system that had already been in use for seven years or so by various universities and various government departments in the US and abroad, and those systems, based around the mbox format that was pretty much fully detailed by 1975. People were exchanging emails over ARPANet years before this guy wrote his email program.
My problem with this specific claim is that Chomsky was around and most certainly must have been using Unix-based mail systems before this twerp developed his little system (that had no influence on the history of email itself). I can't understand where Chomsky is coming from on this. The guy didn't invent email, not even by the definition that Chomsky himself provides. He developed an independent system that seems not at all rooted in the considerable work done over the seven or eight previous years nor did it in any way influence the later development of later email systems. There were no lack of alternative email systems, and Exchange-Outlook are Lotus Notes are based on such systems out of the late 1970s and the 1980s, but the king of them all, SMTP transmitting mbox-structured email, can be directly linked back to the mail command to be found in the first version of Unix. There is a clear genealogy, and that even goes back into the 1960s with Multics. The RFCs are all there, hard proof that this guy did not invent some routed multi-organizational email system, that in fact, academia and the US government had been using such a system, which is the direct ancestor of Internet mail we use today. Hell, by the mid-1970s we had RFCs relating to the mbox format that made an mbox format that pretty much every mail program out there today could open.
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Or in other words, there will be no reason to use IE at all.
IE9 is a lot of things, but lightweight ain't one of them. It's slow to start as compared to Chrome on most of the hardware I've used it on.
Except that RT won't even be able to fully integrate into AD domains, so you won't even have the benefit of group policies and software distribution.
And again, WTF? Princes in Late Medieval and RenaissNce Europe frequently indebted themselves go fund military ventures. The foundations of our modern banking and finance system was groups like the Venetian bankers lending money to various European rulers and other interests for military and trading ventures. And how do you suppose those lenders were often paid back... That's right, taxes.
What the fuck are you talking about? Taxation predates currency of any kind by a thousand years at least, and probably much longer than that( and since the earliest urban societies has had the same primary function to create a centralized infrastructure. Whether that's canals, armies, bureaucracy, courts or whatever, that is the purpose of taxation.
So I want to open a widget factory. What do you propose I barter to get financing?
Money evolved precisely because bartering does not scale well. You cannot build a large scale economy with such a system. Even the Romans knew that. They didn't build an empire by trading chickens and bushels of wheat.
And do you want the value of your savings to tank because there's a spike in production of your particular precious metal? Think it doesn't happen, look when China began dumping silver because of the opium wars, causing a massive devaluation of silver prices in the West.
Ah, the weekly obligatory Bitcoin article. I expect that another Raspberry Pi article should follow shortly.
Exercising your right to protest is not the same thing as basically setting up a hobo camp.
Indeed. One of the things that I find is a problem with really bright people is overconfidence, a belief that because they are brilliant in one area, they therefore are brilliant in all areas. You find this sort of thing with engineers who think they are scientists, doctors who think they are scientists, or scientists who make fools of themselves by making elaborate and tragically awful claims in areas where they have no expertise.
True polymaths are probably so rare that even the most seasoned and well-connected academic won't meet one.
For chrissakes, the DoD was communicating with contractors and academics before this guy was probably even in high school.
As usual, the fault in these incidents lie with both sides; the cops, for often being quick to move into "riot control" mode, and the protesters, because they believe that nobody will give a shit about their cause if there aren't at least a few of them with blood pouring down their foreheads.
As for the other 98% of us, we just want to get through the day without being fired, mistaken for a protester or having our stupid ass kids that we've invested so much time, money and emotion into getting involved in these protests.
System email has been around for a loooong time, at least since the mid-1960s. However, Shiva and/or his supporters have asserted that Shiva developed some sort of an intra-organizational email system, which is completely false. ARPANet was being used to distribute emails between various organizations since around 1971, and trivially accessible RFCs dating back to the very beginning show the evolution of the early mailbox protocols right up to modern SMTP mail systems today. Shiva had absolutely nothing to do with the evolution of email. It was an all but unknown dead end, until he got busted trying to claim otherwise.
Frauds generally have a hard time finding work after they've been busted. This guy tried to take credit for a helluva lot of work by other people that knew nothing about him.
Larry Roberts developed a formalized email folder structure two years before this EMAIL program existed. Shiva didn't even invent that.
The reason I find Shiva repugnant is becausing he's a lying piece of shit, a fraud who tried to claim invention of email, then radically backpedalled, still not enough, when he was busted. He did not invent email systems, his email program did not inspire any later ones. In short, he was an unknown dead end until he started selling himself as something he never was.
He may have been the first person to drop the hyphen, yes. But the RFCs and other documents show that the terms "electronic mail" and "e-mail" were already in use. Beyond that, he and his supporters have yet to demonstrate that even so far as the acronym "email" without the hyphen was created and/or popularized by him.
To be clear, Tomlinson himself would never make the claim he invented email, e-mail, electronic mail or whatever. What he did was to extend the
and underlying infrastructure to allow the routing of messages based upon whether the recipient was on the local host or on an external host. Email systems most certainly predated his work, and I suspect that you will even find routed electronic mail systems existed before (certainly Telix would fit that category).
Tomlinson is noted because he extended the mail system which had its origins in Multics (functionality was duplicated in Unix) to encompass ARPANet. Later work also allowed mail to be routed via other transmission channels; most famously UUCP and its (in)famous bang paths, which also predate 1978. In fact, by the mid-1970s the technical specifications were at a level that you could open up a copy of email from that period in Alpine or Thunderbird and it would handle it correctly. By the mid-1970s the mail systems available in Unix and ARPANet-capable systems was sufficiently evolved that one could send email from any compatible node (whether ARPANet, UUCP or some other facility) and delivery to other institutions or agencies, both in the US and abroad, was being done.
This history is also nicely documented by the RFCs themselves, you can see the evolution of the Internet mail transit systems from the early Multics and Unix local system only variants all the way to fully routed email by 1973, with improvements after that in the structure of the mbox format itself and in the transmission protocols. This Shiva fellow had absolute nothing to do with any of it. He was not a developer of any of the principle technologies, he was not an author of any of the RFCs, his system did not come into any kind of general use, and even by the early 1980s with the first major BBSs like CompuServe to come online, they all used their own electronic mail systems, while ARPANet continued to grow and the email infrastructure, daemons and clients along with it. His software is a little (actually, until he got busted making absurd claims, pretty much unknown) dead end variant on a concept that dates back a couple of decades before he wrote it.
He may not have known about ARPANet in 1978, but that does not excuse the bullshit he's been spreading in the last few years. The guy is a liar.
It would appear so. I'm sure if someone were to dig, they'd find emails Chomsky sent that predate this guy's "EMAIL" program
The mail command, dating back to Multics (and god knows, probably older than that) was a functional mail system, so yes. As with all things Unix, it may not have been that pretty, but one could write an email and the mailer queue would sort out whether it was local delivery or was to be sent out via ARPANet (or possibly some other transmission method like UUCP, which also predates this guy's "all encompassing" mail program). He did not invent email, he did not invent the familiar structure of email (that was established in RFC by 1975), he did not invent a transmission system. He made his own email program that had no discernible adoption, was not the base of any other email technology. It was a dead end whose only notable feature was that it may be the first use of "EMAIL" (as opposed to electronic mail or e-mail, both of which can be found in reference to various other email systems in existence as far back as the 1960s).
ARPANet was connecting all kinds of organizations before 1978. It was inter-organizational at least four or five years before this guy wrote his "email" program.
If he's still claiming that, then he's still a liar. What could be more inter-organizational than the ARPANet mail system that by 1975 was transmitting mail between US government agencies and academia throughout the US, Canada and Western Europe? The RFCs are there to prove it. ARPANet was distributing email to various organizations and agencies four or five years before this idiot's email program was written.
The guy is full of shit. He's a liar.
Ayyadurai was shopping himself around as the inventory of email. When he got nailed by several people who demonstrated by simply going through the relevant RFCs dating back to around 1970-71 that this guy had absolutely nothing to do with the development of the electronic mail system that even by 1978 was the prevalent system for much of Western academia, suddenly it became this "I copyrighted a bit of software". He was cut so grossly overinflating his importance that I think you have to call him a liar.
As to Chomsky, as I've said, he most certainly must have been using Unix-based mail back in those days, so I can't figure out how he can justify coming to this guy's defense.
The term "electronic mail" was used to describe the mail system developed along with Unix in 1970-71 (and that itself was originally designed as a compatible rewrite of the Multics mail system). It's possible that the term "email", as opposed to "electronic mail" or "e-mail" may have been first used by this guy, but his mail system had nothing to do with the routed mail system that had already been in use for seven years or so by various universities and various government departments in the US and abroad, and those systems, based around the mbox format that was pretty much fully detailed by 1975. People were exchanging emails over ARPANet years before this guy wrote his email program.
My problem with this specific claim is that Chomsky was around and most certainly must have been using Unix-based mail systems before this twerp developed his little system (that had no influence on the history of email itself). I can't understand where Chomsky is coming from on this. The guy didn't invent email, not even by the definition that Chomsky himself provides. He developed an independent system that seems not at all rooted in the considerable work done over the seven or eight previous years nor did it in any way influence the later development of later email systems. There were no lack of alternative email systems, and Exchange-Outlook are Lotus Notes are based on such systems out of the late 1970s and the 1980s, but the king of them all, SMTP transmitting mbox-structured email, can be directly linked back to the mail command to be found in the first version of Unix. There is a clear genealogy, and that even goes back into the 1960s with Multics. The RFCs are all there, hard proof that this guy did not invent some routed multi-organizational email system, that in fact, academia and the US government had been using such a system, which is the direct ancestor of Internet mail we use today. Hell, by the mid-1970s we had RFCs relating to the mbox format that made an mbox format that pretty much every mail program out there today could open.