Has any of the/. staff thought writing an addition/plugin/module/whatever to slash that identifies these troll posts and stop them from being posted ? Most of these have been around for ages, and posted many times (although i couldn't find that many from/., mainly because [AFAIK] google will not index threads that are hidden).
Shouldn't be that hard, define some way of calculating the distance between texts, allow users to flag posts as repeat troll, when enough similar flagged posts are found add it to the list, and finally check new posts against the list at post time.
But OTOH, this is probably a little overkill for something that is already dealt with rather well by the existing modding system.
What about warranty replacements ? I've been having some trouble with my HP laptop, and they've replaced the motherboard and hard drive ( still hasn't fixed it, BTW ). Will there are special exceptions for things like this ?
Out of interest, what do you estimate the time/size saving for HTML + CSS ?
I completely agree that (well formed XHTML + CSS) is *much* better than (badly formed HTML + tables + <font..>), but i'm not seeing a big advantage over proper HTML and proper CSS.
I havent RTFA but what this is what i gather from the paragraph and complaints i hear from those who dont like VS.
Visual editors are causing brain rot not because they do cool things like regexs search/replaces, etc but because they are more of a "point and click" design enviroment. So rather than starting with 'printf("hello world!\n");' they are starting with drawing forms, adding buttons, naming buttons, and other things without any understanding of coding ( with words ).
So when they get round to adding code to the buttons and forms they have no idea what to do.
Aurora spreads through fake bittorrents that are realy just exes with the installer on it.
Besides how do you know it wasnt throught the JavaVM ( are you using the one from MS ?) or jpeg render exploits ( part of windows ) ? These just require a unpatched XP box.
In a later post you said you secured the messenger service, IIRC this only effects unpatched versions on WinXP which arent behind a firewall.
I belive you are refering to page 5 of the PDF where the study compares the price for the hardware each OS requires.
In TFA on page 4 of 9 :
... Hardware acquisition costs were calculated as follows: 1. The closest matching system was selected from the SPECjbb® database, yielding a known test configuration and its expected performance. ...
http://www.spec.org/jbb2000/ is the report quoted. They are using SPECjbb2000 (Java Business Benchmark) to ensure that they compensate for inefficient OSes. Though this only test the performance of Java programs it can be a good indication.
And on the second page :
... Linux is 40 percent less expensive than a comparable x86-based Windows solution and 54 percent less than a comparable SPARC-based Solaris solution, based on a 3-year period of ownership for a system supporting 100,000 operations per second on the SPECjbb® benchmark. ...
BTW WRT ".. really there is not much difference in TCO" Even with the same hardware it would be $50k vs. $67k with Linux @ 27% lower TCO.
Regarding the statement by the OP about man pages: If you are using a late version of KDE go into konqueror and type "man:/" then whatever man page you want into the address bar. On windows there is no common help 'area' is there ? KDE will even config 2.4 kernels through a GUI.
The man pages are meant to be developer/power-user friendly not idiot friendly. For example the page pages for printf(3) but not howToUseAMouse(9).
The (G?)GP said that MS always comes out with good code. Yes, i agree that comparing oranges-with-apples is bad ( that includes you microsoft ). But i was trying to disprove the statement that MS's code _*always*_ is of a high quality.
The debate is about whether or not Microsoft has high code quality. True, Gates gives a lot of his money to orgs like the AIDs community, etc , but the disccution was about the code quality. Also there is the question as to the ethics of "crushing" and damaging of bisnesses to rase money even if it is for a good cause.
Becuase it looks like a lot of lies from an un-informed user just trying to... troll. Not to mention the fact he doesnt provide any facts or valid arguments. Not to mention most of the arguments can be totaled in a single sentance.
For example : Microsoft is one of the few organizations in the world that consistently puts out high quality code.Windows ME.
FWIW 2.2.x kernels have "hardened" patch sets avalible.
I think the difference between Linux and Windows is that Windows trys to be more secure by adding more "technology" ( a.k. buzzwords ) while Linux kernels tend to try to fix the flaws and make sure they arent there in the first place. I think this is backed-up by comparing W2k with XP and kernels 2.2.0 and 2.2.26 . Though sometimes this theory doesnt quite fit.
I guess the point i was trying to make, but didnt make a good job of doing it, was the these people got their systems h4x0r3d because they were 6 days late in patching.
6 days doesnt give enough time for things like scheduling down time, reporting on how it will affect the system, and other things. Sure, you can get the patches on the systems in time but often they just cant get it installed due to network policies, or heaps of other things.
Also if Microsoft sells to "12:00 flashers" ( that sums up a number of people i know quite well ) maybe they should helpt to make sure their system doesnt turn into zombies ? I guess it isnt MS's responsibility but if since they sell into a lot of that market you do have to ask the question. I'm not asked MS to go round to everbody's house and install patches, AV, and anti-spyware i would just like it is is didnt have gaping flaws ( buffer overflows are nothing new, the first came out in 1988 and in 1995 Phrack had an article ) in what is promoted as a modern OS.
For your driving analogy - if a manufacturer issued a recall, they are warning you about a problem. They can then turn round and say 'we told you not to use the brakes', but the driver obviously knows better and went ahead anyway. If I told you not to get in a car because its brakes weren't working, and you did anyway, would it be my fault?
All the driver was doing was waiting until the week end so that he could take it of the road. Can you get a mechanic to fix your car within 6 days ? Not always.
Windows machines are the only things that require you to have the machines patched quickly otherwise they die/turn into zombies
Unlike Linux machines that need regular patching to prevent them being rooted? There's no difference between any OS when it comes to a security hole, you patch it or you run the risk of being hacked.
Quickly. Can you find a *nix flaw that requires patches to be applied in 6 days or else a worm takes out the machine ? Sure *nix, like everything else, has old versions but they dont normally get this old this quickly.
For your driving analogy - if a manufacturer issued a recall, they are warning you about a problem. They can then turn round and say 'we told you not to use the brakes', but the driver obviously knows better and went ahead anyway. If I told you not to get in a car because its brakes weren't working, and you did anyway, would it be my fault?
If a driver was to be killed when his breaks failed, would you then say "But {companyname} stated 6 days earlier that they were doing a recall so it is the drivers fault for not taking his vehicle off the road at a cost $500/day because he runs a home business" ?
Windows machines are the only things that require you to have the machines patched quickly otherwise they die/turn into zombies. And users dont like it and will change to other OSs.
I know that one day we will be looking at some serious security problems with OSS, especially when it hits prime time. But when that day comes its not going to be up to some big ass company with greedy motives to fix it, or to delay a fix so it can push out 'updated versions' of its software for sale instead. The fix is going to come from thousands of sources and this is a GOOD THING. We have the source code to fix the problem and staff on hand to implement a quick solution to a wide range of possible issues on the kernel level. We don't need to pray and wait for some extortionist coporation to be merciful enough to bend under the will of the most basic moral resourcefullness of its staff.
Another though : What if a Mo-Mo-Monster Kill-ill-ill ( that is from UT ) Virus/Worn came out and shut down parts of the 'net maybe even all of Redmond. What then ? With OSS you dont need a massive 30MB MS-signed patch to fix the problem. More than likely it would only take a ~1000 Byte diff that can come from anywhere and can be reviewed to check to see is it is legit.
...and the anchor woman next to him said something about how terrible it is to lose all your personal data and have to "reboot".
Heard that a bit. Once i had to power cycle a client's computer and were wondering why they were so worried when i told them i had to "reboot" their computer.
It is true that by default users are admins. It is also true that XP Home cant set NTFS perms. And it is very true that almost all PC companies set the default user to an admin ( for compatiblity reasons ).
However XP can have limited users and if you look at M$'s site long enough you can find that "Users are recomended to run as a limited user".
And the end of the day *nobody* i know uses a limited account.
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Has any of the /. staff thought writing an addition/plugin/module/whatever to slash that identifies these troll posts and stop them from being posted ? Most of these have been around for ages, and posted many times (although i couldn't find that many from /., mainly because [AFAIK] google will not index threads that are hidden).
Shouldn't be that hard, define some way of calculating the distance between texts, allow users to flag posts as repeat troll, when enough similar flagged posts are found add it to the list, and finally check new posts against the list at post time.
But OTOH, this is probably a little overkill for something that is already dealt with rather well by the existing modding system.
What about warranty replacements ? I've been having some trouble with my HP laptop, and they've replaced the motherboard and hard drive ( still hasn't fixed it, BTW ). Will there are special exceptions for things like this ?
Out of interest, what do you estimate the time/size saving for HTML + CSS ?
..>), but i'm not seeing a big advantage over proper HTML and proper CSS.
I completely agree that (well formed XHTML + CSS) is *much* better than (badly formed HTML + tables + <font
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=h ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.creimer.ws%2F
( Enter your web site URL into http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ )
It looks like you have some parse errors in your CSS.
Maybe those are causing Safari to mis-render it ?
I had a similar problem and fixed it by writting my own session variable libary that connects to/uses a SQL database. It isnt that hard.
From what i gather Brim needs a SQL db anyway, and if you are the only one using it server load will be no problem.
Not really.
Look at the title 'Are Web Pages Getting Larger?'.
Pages.
As in (X)HTML + it's images, css/js files, etc.
Well the good thing about that post is that now rather than having to skip over 4 lame jokes i only have to scroll past 1 very lame joke.
I havent RTFA but what this is what i gather from the paragraph and complaints i hear from those who dont like VS.
Visual editors are causing brain rot not because they do cool things like regexs search/replaces, etc but because they are more of a "point and click" design enviroment.
So rather than starting with 'printf("hello world!\n");' they are starting with drawing forms, adding buttons, naming buttons, and other things without any understanding of coding ( with words ).
So when they get round to adding code to the buttons and forms they have no idea what to do.
I think you are just trolling.
i d=4297&group_id=1#mysql
To being with Slashcode ( what drives this ) will *only* work with MySQL ( http://www.slashcode.com/docs/INSTALL ) and has never supported db2.
Secondly, i have a sourceforge project and i can connect to a MySQL database from my project's sf-hosted server-side page.
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?doc
Gentoo uses it's full name : mozilla-firefox.
Try that.
Aurora spreads through fake bittorrents that are realy just exes with the installer on it.
Besides how do you know it wasnt throught the JavaVM ( are you using the one from MS ?) or jpeg render exploits ( part of windows ) ? These just require a unpatched XP box.
In a later post you said you secured the messenger service, IIRC this only effects unpatched versions on WinXP which arent behind a firewall.
I belive you are refering to page 5 of the PDF where the study compares the price for the hardware each OS requires.
...
...
...
In TFA on page 4 of 9 :
...
Hardware acquisition costs were calculated as follows:
1. The closest matching system was selected from the SPECjbb® database, yielding a
known test configuration and its expected performance.
http://www.spec.org/jbb2000/ is the report quoted. They are using SPECjbb2000 (Java Business Benchmark) to ensure that they compensate for inefficient OSes. Though this only test the performance of Java programs it can be a good indication.
And on the second page :
Linux is 40 percent less expensive than a comparable x86-based Windows solution and 54
percent less than a comparable SPARC-based Solaris solution, based on a 3-year period of
ownership for a system supporting 100,000 operations per second on the SPECjbb® benchmark.
BTW WRT ".. really there is not much difference in TCO"
Even with the same hardware it would be $50k vs. $67k with Linux @ 27% lower TCO.
Very good.
Regarding the statement by the OP about man pages: If you are using a late version of KDE go into konqueror and type "man:/" then whatever man page you want into the address bar. On windows there is no common help 'area' is there ? KDE will even config 2.4 kernels through a GUI.
The man pages are meant to be developer/power-user friendly not idiot friendly. For example the page pages for printf(3) but not howToUseAMouse(9).
The (G?)GP said that MS always comes out with good code. Yes, i agree that comparing oranges-with-apples is bad ( that includes you microsoft ). But i was trying to disprove the statement that MS's code _*always*_ is of a high quality.
The debate is about whether or not Microsoft has high code quality. True, Gates gives a lot of his money to orgs like the AIDs community, etc , but the disccution was about the code quality. Also there is the question as to the ethics of "crushing" and damaging of bisnesses to rase money even if it is for a good cause.
Becuase it looks like a lot of lies from an un-informed user just trying to ... troll. Not to mention the fact he doesnt provide any facts or valid arguments. Not to mention most of the arguments can be totaled in a single sentance.
For example :
Microsoft is one of the few organizations in the world that consistently puts out high quality code.Windows ME.
FWIW 2.2.x kernels have "hardened" patch sets avalible.
I think the difference between Linux and Windows is that Windows trys to be more secure by adding more "technology" ( a.k. buzzwords ) while Linux kernels tend to try to fix the flaws and make sure they arent there in the first place. I think this is backed-up by comparing W2k with XP and kernels 2.2.0 and 2.2.26 . Though sometimes this theory doesnt quite fit.
I guess the point i was trying to make, but didnt make a good job of doing it, was the these people got their systems h4x0r3d because they were 6 days late in patching.
6 days doesnt give enough time for things like scheduling down time, reporting on how it will affect the system, and other things. Sure, you can get the patches on the systems in time but often they just cant get it installed due to network policies, or heaps of other things.
Also if Microsoft sells to "12:00 flashers" ( that sums up a number of people i know quite well ) maybe they should helpt to make sure their system doesnt turn into zombies ? I guess it isnt MS's responsibility but if since they sell into a lot of that market you do have to ask the question. I'm not asked MS to go round to everbody's house and install patches, AV, and anti-spyware i would just like it is is didnt have gaping flaws ( buffer overflows are nothing new, the first came out in 1988 and in 1995 Phrack had an article ) in what is promoted as a modern OS.
All the driver was doing was waiting until the week end so that he could take it of the road. Can you get a mechanic to fix your car within 6 days ? Not always.
Quickly. Can you find a *nix flaw that requires patches to be applied in 6 days or else a worm takes out the machine ? Sure *nix, like everything else, has old versions but they dont normally get this old this quickly.
If a driver was to be killed when his breaks failed, would you then say "But {companyname} stated 6 days earlier that they were doing a recall so it is the drivers fault for not taking his vehicle off the road at a cost $500/day because he runs a home business" ?
Windows machines are the only things that require you to have the machines patched quickly otherwise they die/turn into zombies. And users dont like it and will change to other OSs.
In more related news, it took Microsoft 6 years to fix a critical bug in the server version of their OS.
I never thought about the fact that if a trusted but infected 2k machine comes into the LAN it will infect XP machines.
I know that one day we will be looking at some serious security problems with OSS, especially when it hits prime time. But when that day comes its not going to be up to some big ass company with greedy motives to fix it, or to delay a fix so it can push out 'updated versions' of its software for sale instead. The fix is going to come from thousands of sources and this is a GOOD THING. We have the source code to fix the problem and staff on hand to implement a quick solution to a wide range of possible issues on the kernel level. We don't need to pray and wait for some extortionist coporation to be merciful enough to bend under the will of the most basic moral resourcefullness of its staff.
...and the anchor woman next to him said something about how terrible it is to lose all your personal data and have to "reboot".
Another though : What if a Mo-Mo-Monster Kill-ill-ill ( that is from UT ) Virus/Worn came out and shut down parts of the 'net maybe even all of Redmond. What then ? With OSS you dont need a massive 30MB MS-signed patch to fix the problem. More than likely it would only take a ~1000 Byte diff that can come from anywhere and can be reviewed to check to see is it is legit.
Heard that a bit. Once i had to power cycle a client's computer and were wondering why they were so worried when i told them i had to "reboot" their computer.
The statement is true and it isnt true.
It is true that by default users are admins. It is also true that XP Home cant set NTFS perms. And it is very true that almost all PC companies set the default user to an admin ( for compatiblity reasons ).
However XP can have limited users and if you look at M$'s site long enough you can find that "Users are recomended to run as a limited user".
And the end of the day *nobody* i know uses a limited account.