I have typically 30 windows open, and I do use them all, typically viewing lots of PDF documents together (articles, etc). All the PDF readers choke at around 20-30 documents.
OS/X is a correct acronym, I did not invent it, look for it. It dates from version 10.0
I take issue about your statement that a recent version Mac OS X can run in 512MB of RAM and actually be useful. I have run every version of OS/X even before it was called that way, and it has never used memory efficiently in my book.
For instance, try running Aperture on a mid-size library of photographs, say 10,000 photos and check your memory usage...
Not a troll. OS/X has actually been pretty stagnant since Leopard. I have a dual install of L/SL, and it's hard to tell the difference. In fact old Leopard is often faster, in spite of Apple's claims to the contrary.
I run mostly Apple-blessed software. The worst habitual offender is Safari, followed by Mail.app. The Apple Kernel guzzles memory like no other I know. My machine right now has been up for 10h and the kernel is eating 10% of the memory (400MB). What ? This is real memory, not virtual.
When Aperture has finished opening on my machine (after a few minutes...) it eats more than 600MB of real RAM doing nothing at all. This is not good at all.
Why is Apple not letting NVidia and AMD propose their own driver ? Why is Apple insisting that *they* should write the drivers ? This is insane. They do a very poor job (cue to game performance under OS/X, a longstanding issue), and they annoy consumers, most notably those who buy their most expensive hardware and need the most performance out of it.
The results is the people who do GPU computing are flocking to W7 or Linux, due to insufficient driver support.
Nothing is wrong with my MBP, I use it a lot, that's all. I work in medical image analysis and I visualize a lot of 3D datasets, and the way OS/X caches display memory is perhaps the problem. It seems inefficient compared to Linux. I don't work enough with Windows to comment either way.
Memory requirements are definitely a problem under OS/X. It is totally unacceptable that Safari requires 1/2 GB of RAM to display a few web pages like it does on my computer right now. mds, a simple background daemon, is using 400MB! The kernel is using 450 MB. The bloody mail client is using 150MB. This machine has been up for a grand total of 9h.
Inkscape produces standard SVG. This is pretty important in some parts of the world. Illustrator doesn't.
I use it to produce exclusively line art for scientific documents. It does not need to be colour matched.
I have personally produced several books. Usually my work is better than what the professional publisher can do for me. The reason is simple: they don't care, I do. Several times I have had to redo the shoddy work of "professionals" in order for it to be of actual publishable quality.
Suspend-to-disk is an essential feature in a desktop machine today. It can cut electricity bill significantly and is much more robust than suspend-to-RAM.
Video card, sound cards, RAID controller cards, eSata cards, you name it. Not much you can put in a Mac Pro and make work, far less than for Linux.
The thing I hate from Apple, and I do really hate it, is that they do not allow NVidia to release their general drivers that they do for all the other platforms (even BSD) for OS/X. They have a unified video architecture, and this would mean I could put dual 480s in my macpro right now without having to wait for Apple's blessing. Old Unix vendors used to do what Apple does now and this is what killed them.
Instead Nvidia have a crippled driver for the 285 card, which is not even produced anymore.
I'm surprised about Eclipse. Last time I tried it it immediately took almost a full 1GB of RAM just to start. Open Office is also very bad at managing memory in my book.
Typically after a week of work I have a swap file of about 5GB. My record is close to 9GB. One problem is even if you close all the apps the swap space stays huge.
QT (ex-Trolltech, now Nokia) is extremely cross-platform.
I do know exactly what runs on my MBP. I run a lot of software simultaneously, I work in medical imaging. I have another Mac with 12GB of RAM and I'm happy with it. OS/X is not happy with only 4GB unless you are doing extremely simple things.
What about a new filesystem? What about full 64-bit GUI? what about a fine new finder? what about hardware support?
Man, technical news is really thin on the ground. Only one version ago we had plenty of nitty-gritty details about Unix and Enterprise-class OS features. Instead now we have demos of music lessons. This is terrible.
Wish Apple put some work on OSX
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Sorry if this sounds like a lament,
Apple doesn't like OS/X anymore. The platform has basically been stagnant since the inception of 10.6, in 2008. Hardware support is poor, even worse than Linux. For instance there is no way to make a Nvidia GTX460 run under OS/X at the moment, in spite of it being the best bang-for-the-buck video card right now. It was impossible to have an AMD 5xxx series run until only a few months ago! Performance is not good enough. From experience OS/X guzzle memory like no other OS I know. I use two boxes at work, a Linux HP PC with 4GB of RAM that never ever swaps, and a MBP laptop with 4GB of RAM that becomes slow as molasses after a week of use due to memory issues.
I'm extremely disappointed in Apple's focus on the mobile platform at the moment. There is only so much that can be done with a telephone and a hobbled tablet, nice though it may be.
I have some experience with Hackintosh. In my opinion, be prepared for a world of hurt, very comparable to the Linux experience of 10 years ago. Basic features not working (e.g suspend-to-disk), no support, needing to be very careful about what hardware can be accommodated, performance issues, and very shaky future. Apple could basically pull the plug anyday. At the end of it a little more software is available, from the big editors. Realistically a lot of the free software tools that I like do not run as well as under Linux (for instance Inkscape).
I used to like the OSX development tools but they are not portable, I wasted a lot of time with them, so this is as basic as I can make it now, so my software runs everywhere.
That sounds like a great documentary. Take a random 10mn of Fox News, do what you say: intensive facts checking. Debunk each and every moment of these 10mn and post that on youtube. At least some people would watch that.
Having lived in the Boston area I couldn't believe how poorly insulated many of the homes were, which meant high bills for heating in winter and cooling in summer.
You can *more* take advantage of modern technology (like great insulation, efficient heating and renewable sources of energy) and consume fewer resources. The two are not mutually exclusive, and this is exactly what China is doing. They have the power to mandate that sort of top-down attitude in their own country, and in spite of what you can say about China's human rights record, this is by and large working.
This is exactly what Eric Schmitt is saying and the nature of his comment : "China is a well-run large business"
You are correct mathematically, but this is not really counterintuitive. This boils down to the fact that are fewer constraints on real numbers than on integer numbers. A Diophantine equation can be unsolvable, but the same equation involving real numbers can be trivial. Same thing with mathematical optimization: real number linear programming is a polynomial complexity problem, whereas integer programming is NP-hard.
I don't know. I think really innocent people hurt by this will fight really hard, like they did in the US. People can fight the 3rd strike in court, and there are people in the judiciary who hate Sarkozy's gut who can't wait for this.
This is going to be an enormous disaster for Sarkozy.
There is no way to contest strike 1 and 2 at present, unless one installs of one's own volition some government spyware program that doesn't exist yet, meant to show that only legit traffic goes through the line.
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I have typically 30 windows open, and I do use them all, typically viewing lots of PDF documents together (articles, etc). All the PDF readers choke at around 20-30 documents.
OS/X is a correct acronym, I did not invent it, look for it. It dates from version 10.0
I take issue about your statement that a recent version Mac OS X can run in 512MB of RAM and actually be useful. I have run every version of OS/X even before it was called that way, and it has never used memory efficiently in my book.
For instance, try running Aperture on a mid-size library of photographs, say 10,000 photos and check your memory usage...
Not a troll. OS/X has actually been pretty stagnant since Leopard. I have a dual install of L/SL, and it's hard to tell the difference. In fact old Leopard is often faster, in spite of Apple's claims to the contrary.
I run mostly Apple-blessed software. The worst habitual offender is Safari, followed by Mail.app. The Apple Kernel guzzles memory like no other I know. My machine right now has been up for 10h and the kernel is eating 10% of the memory (400MB). What ? This is real memory, not virtual.
When Aperture has finished opening on my machine (after a few minutes...) it eats more than 600MB of real RAM doing nothing at all. This is not good at all.
Why is Apple not letting NVidia and AMD propose their own driver ? Why is Apple insisting that *they* should write the drivers ? This is insane. They do a very poor job (cue to game performance under OS/X, a longstanding issue), and they annoy consumers, most notably those who buy their most expensive hardware and need the most performance out of it.
The results is the people who do GPU computing are flocking to W7 or Linux, due to insufficient driver support.
Nothing is wrong with my MBP, I use it a lot, that's all. I work in medical image analysis and I visualize a lot of 3D datasets, and the way OS/X caches display memory is perhaps the problem. It seems inefficient compared to Linux. I don't work enough with Windows to comment either way.
Memory requirements are definitely a problem under OS/X. It is totally unacceptable that Safari requires 1/2 GB of RAM to display a few web pages like it does on my computer right now. mds, a simple background daemon, is using 400MB! The kernel is using 450 MB. The bloody mail client is using 150MB. This machine has been up for a grand total of 9h.
Yes, I use QT too. Little-known FLTK is good too.
Seeing what they are pushing for 10.7 Lion right now, I think this platform might no longer be for me.
This is sad, I have worked on OS/X since the days of NeXT in the early 90s. BTW NeXT/OS had pretty shoddy memory usage then too.
I do produce mac software, and it is free too, and I'm not looking at making a single buck out of it. Some people find it useful and actually use it.
Inkscape produces standard SVG. This is pretty important in some parts of the world. Illustrator doesn't.
I use it to produce exclusively line art for scientific documents. It does not need to be colour matched.
I have personally produced several books. Usually my work is better than what the professional publisher can do for me. The reason is simple: they don't care, I do. Several times I have had to redo the shoddy work of "professionals" in order for it to be of actual publishable quality.
Suspend-to-disk is an essential feature in a desktop machine today. It can cut electricity bill significantly and is much more robust than suspend-to-RAM.
Video card, sound cards, RAID controller cards, eSata cards, you name it. Not much you can put in a Mac Pro and make work, far less than for Linux.
The thing I hate from Apple, and I do really hate it, is that they do not allow NVidia to release their general drivers that they do for all the other platforms (even BSD) for OS/X. They have a unified video architecture, and this would mean I could put dual 480s in my macpro right now without having to wait for Apple's blessing. Old Unix vendors used to do what Apple does now and this is what killed them.
Instead Nvidia have a crippled driver for the 285 card, which is not even produced anymore.
I'm surprised about Eclipse. Last time I tried it it immediately took almost a full 1GB of RAM just to start. Open Office is also very bad at managing memory in my book.
Typically after a week of work I have a swap file of about 5GB. My record is close to 9GB. One problem is even if you close all the apps the swap space stays huge.
Actually you are right, I was thinking of Leopard, which dates from 2007. SL did not add much to the mix except better 64-bit support.
QT (ex-Trolltech, now Nokia) is extremely cross-platform.
I do know exactly what runs on my MBP. I run a lot of software simultaneously, I work in medical imaging. I have another Mac with 12GB of RAM and I'm happy with it. OS/X is not happy with only 4GB unless you are doing extremely simple things.
No other details on 10.7 ?
What about a new filesystem? What about full 64-bit GUI? what about a fine new finder? what about hardware support?
Man, technical news is really thin on the ground. Only one version ago we had plenty of nitty-gritty details about Unix and Enterprise-class OS features. Instead now we have demos of music lessons. This is terrible.
Sorry if this sounds like a lament,
Apple doesn't like OS/X anymore. The platform has basically been stagnant since the inception of 10.6, in 2008. Hardware support is poor, even worse than Linux. For instance there is no way to make a Nvidia GTX460 run under OS/X at the moment, in spite of it being the best bang-for-the-buck video card right now. It was impossible to have an AMD 5xxx series run until only a few months ago! Performance is not good enough. From experience OS/X guzzle memory like no other OS I know. I use two boxes at work, a Linux HP PC with 4GB of RAM that never ever swaps, and a MBP laptop with 4GB of RAM that becomes slow as molasses after a week of use due to memory issues.
I'm extremely disappointed in Apple's focus on the mobile platform at the moment. There is only so much that can be done with a telephone and a hobbled tablet, nice though it may be.
I have some experience with Hackintosh. In my opinion, be prepared for a world of hurt, very comparable to the Linux experience of 10 years ago. Basic features not working (e.g suspend-to-disk), no support, needing to be very careful about what hardware can be accommodated, performance issues, and very shaky future. Apple could basically pull the plug anyday. At the end of it a little more software is available, from the big editors. Realistically a lot of the free software tools that I like do not run as well as under Linux (for instance Inkscape).
I used to like the OSX development tools but they are not portable, I wasted a lot of time with them, so this is as basic as I can make it now, so my software runs everywhere.
Say you signed up with myisp.com and you are called bill.
They probably made you an email address bill@myisp.com ; and they might have given you how to access the associated mailbox.
This is your email address as far as they are concerned. Whether you go and read the email deposited there is none of their problem.
Yes, and Sarkozy's approval rating stands currently at 26% ; if he wants to be reelected he will have to stop these campaigns.
And then someone will find another loophole, and pretty soon it's election time again, not time to piss off our electorate, and this law is history.
Just so you know, the guillotine was abolished in 1981.
That sounds like a great documentary. Take a random 10mn of Fox News, do what you say: intensive facts checking. Debunk each and every moment of these 10mn and post that on youtube. At least some people would watch that.
Point 4 is good. May not take as long as you think, at any rate worth trying, no?
Having lived in the Boston area I couldn't believe how poorly insulated many of the homes were, which meant high bills for heating in winter and cooling in summer.
You can *more* take advantage of modern technology (like great insulation, efficient heating and renewable sources of energy) and consume fewer resources. The two are not mutually exclusive, and this is exactly what China is doing. They have the power to mandate that sort of top-down attitude in their own country, and in spite of what you can say about China's human rights record, this is by and large working.
This is exactly what Eric Schmitt is saying and the nature of his comment : "China is a well-run large business"
You are correct mathematically, but this is not really counterintuitive. This boils down to the fact that are fewer constraints on real numbers than on integer numbers. A Diophantine equation can be unsolvable, but the same equation involving real numbers can be trivial. Same thing with mathematical optimization: real number linear programming is a polynomial complexity problem, whereas integer programming is NP-hard.
I don't know. I think really innocent people hurt by this will fight really hard, like they did in the US. People can fight the 3rd strike in court, and there are people in the judiciary who hate Sarkozy's gut who can't wait for this.
This is going to be an enormous disaster for Sarkozy.
There is no way to contest strike 1 and 2 at present, unless one installs of one's own volition some government spyware program that doesn't exist yet, meant to show that only legit traffic goes through the line.