Sounds like they would bleed them instead of emptying them. Their are limits to the amount you can withdraw at once. A couple machines a couple times a week would have a single guy living pretty well in a work free existence.
I'd settle for something more credible than all this. I agree with you, being good custodians IS the responsible thing to do, anyway. Meanwhile, keeping a population fed and working with a modern standard of living in industrial nations, while doing the legwork necessary to implement change that doesn't endanger the former, should be done in a trustworthy non-fanatical way. If not, lessons not learned,they will "continue to bang their heads", "doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results" until it feels better or comes to consequence. Do it right, and don't come running in here every 10 minutes, waving your arms and shouting, "The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling!" everytime one of your expensive new toys coughs up some theoretical sampling of what it could be like if only we lived in cartoonland and tell me it's credible or YOU'RE FIRED FLINTSTONE! I suppose that about sums it up.
Yes, but what is the OCEANS effect on this. Up until last week, that data was not even considered because we didn't have that data. Now we have the data within grasp and need only the time to compile it. Water covers more than 2/3 of the planet. It is silly, misleading and ignorant to produce results based on less than 1/3 of the necessary data. Further, there may be even more criteria missing, if they were stupid enough to exclude this and try to produce an end product. It's not that I don't "think" (which is different than "know" or "believe") something may be wrong, but, it cannot be shown in these dark ages of science where money , politics and ambition ARE included in "findings".
I'm saying, instead of working their asses off to produce results, which has landed them in the question of political and monetary bias, they should work their asses off first, to include ALL the criteria necessary to produce a REAL guess. I view this as missing over 2/3 of the data. So naturally their endeavors seem like a snake oil cure or a carnie blathering crap into a bullhorn in front of the freakshow tent.
The models are missing more than 2/3 of the data necessary to begin to believe they have a rudimentary grasp of ANYTHING. It's a fact that results up to now are a myth propagated by career scientists and college departments striving for relevance and funding, Nice of you to drop by and wave a flag for your favorite team; we'll call and let you know if you're needed any further.
These aren't weather models, as others will doubtless tell you. Besides, how many weathermen are very accurate beyond 3 days? Not good enough, even if it were a factor.
Since Oceans cover more than 2/3 of the earth, and that data is not factored due to ignorance, I'm going to call that so far from accurate, it almost appears to be blatantly manipulation by biased parties. DUH!
I'll disagree, because we are missing what amounts to more than 2/3 of the data needed for modeling. To agree would be alarmist, it would be going along to get along. Without the data, attempts to convince me the model is showing this or that just sound like so much manipulation by interested parties. Such as Scientists with a job, that need to do something worthy of keeping that job or the funding alive for it. History has shown private research is hungry to produce results the dollars ask for, college research is easily biased by politics AND money. So, looking out for myself, I poke holes in their half assed research, which heats up their fanbase, but puts the obvious in the open. Like a turd in the punchbowl.
On another note, I can give an example of research for Dollars in action; Since Seismic activity went up 1000 fold through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas, "Studies" have been done by government and oil industry to see if there is correlation between fracking and the 4.4 tremors now rocking the midwest with great frequency. OF COURSE they found no correlation, what are you nuts? The midwest now gets earthquakes that just HAPPEN to coincide with the advent of local fracking. Just because the quakes were so infrequent and more subtle before is NO indicator that fracking has anything to do with it. THAT is the official word.
So, with all the "hippies" running the global warming show, you can see my hesitation to buy the word of a greasy, smelly, socialist, hippy waving the green flag. I'm going to need more than half assed research, no matter how much money and time has been thrown at it.
Think of it as Taxation with representation when it is convenient and doesn't chew into the payola. How is this article illustrating something new? Oh, I guess it shows the Fed being more blatant and less secretive about our role as NGP drones for the elite overlords.
The Earth warms, it cools, it warms, it cools. Models will NEVER be accurate enough for any real predictions, causes or illustrations. Why? Because the input to the models will NEVER have enough, or even appropriate data. If we don't have the Oceans data, and we don't, as highlighted recently by the breakthrough in mapping, we couldn't even begin an approach to modeling the future. What else don't we have? Other criteria, bits of relevant information, which acts on other data, producing results unknown, which again makes up the whole. No, this modeling business could be done on ALL the worlds computers networked together and you'd still have shit. Simply, you don't have enough criteria to accurately say, one way or the other, let alone pinpoint anything.
I'd love to see the gravity models and the data on magnetic poles with compensation for shift. Yeah, thought so... Leave predictions to gypsies, weathermen, stock brokers and sports pundits. All are on par with a flip of the coin even with all the data they crunch. Don't tell me how damn accurate science is predicting fuck about the Earth.
I know a Chinese buffet w/salad , sushi, fresh produce and also the same stir fried, tempura laden, sweet n sour goo that you see the heifers shoving in their grind hole. Not many can resist the lure of the ginger, duck sauce and chili oil , siren call. It would be interesting to observe a health club eating alongside the triplechin set.
No,but it is also an example of the basic functions of OUR brains, which is where the overloaded stimulus goes once our capacities for conscious thought have topped out.We call it the animal brain, which all animals posess no matter how smart or dumb their species. Caveboys are an example of a layer of thought above that, Iron age man organized conscious thought even better and so on. Modern man doesn't multitask infinitely, he load balances destructively. We, as people do more and more mindlessly because of concentration on the myriad of distractions around us. It may explain some violence in our "civilization" , as well if not sexual issues and fear responses. Also, not supporting a university who would support the janitor as a tenured professor is a layer in thought above your capacity.
Yes, portion control IS the problem. You see, our lives have become so complex, our brains are always trying to handle more than they should. To offset the load on our conscious thinking, we go on autopilot, with more primal thinking using the layer beneath consciousness; the animal brain, our base functions handed down through genetic memory. Think of it as the Basic programming language for the animal kingdom. People and all others have been PROGRAMMED through survival of the species to eat until full. It takes conscious thought to overcome this. People are capable of this, provided they do not have to relegate basic functions back to base instruction sets. I think upon examining what I have stated here, you can also apply this to the other 3 functions as well and solve other social ills. Fighting; we are taught to sublimate this to negotiation through activities like debate fueled by logic and reason, when this breaks down, battery occurs.Flight; people can react to fear stimulii by logic and reason of conscious thought and overcome their fear to furtherance of their enrichment or they can run like a cat with kerosene on its butthole. Fucking; well, we can look at the effect of logic and reason in mating over the troubles occurring from mating like the base animals we come from, no matter how fun it might be at the moment.
Because there is seldom anything ethical in the law. Laws are external regulators, ethics come from within. External regulation requires a host of legislation, enforcement and judiciary. Internal regulation is self contained, costs nothing and wastes no time of others. Yes, Facebook needs to be ethical over law abiding. I don't care to throw money at it to keep it law abiding. Money needs to go to IMPORTANT things instead.
Actually, if they got VOLUNTEERS, it would be ethical. Kind of like experimental drug studies, the subjects need to know they are being experimented on, in order that it be ethical.
I look at the Yellow Submarine cartoon and think " I bet they used a lot of LSD" I look at the old spider man and Star Trek cartoons and think" I bet they used a lot of antacid".
Those are auto functions deeper than the Animal brain. They also include instruction sets for your organs, in case you think sleeping,breathing and shitting will get you to the next day.
A lot of additives, preservatives, were approved in the 70s. Look at the list on the back of any snack wrapper. Look at the amount of oils, salty preservatives or just plain sugar/corn syrup present.
Unfortunately this article is more about a scam to resell knowledge we already possess as something new to $tudy. The more intricate and involved "Americans" lives get, the less their ability to overcome with logic their base animal brains directives about feeding in a pack situation. Obesity is less about the quality of foods in this problem and more about eating thoughtfully. When your mind is focused on all the facets of American life, it is not focused on the plate in front of you. They are then on autopilot with regards to feeding. The animal brain then says" Look! the fat one is eating ALL the food, so get as much as you can and eat it as quickly as you can, so no one gets your share of the kill" Quite literally, this is what happens. It requires NO money for further study and the professor involved needs castrated and relegated to the custodial dept. of whatever institution he professes for.
Wow, the ol' S word; Study. It really looks to me as though someone took the already known behaviors from "pack mentality", engrained behaviors in our base animal brain, then painted it another color so they could say "look at this pink elephant, give me money to study it"
I wouldn't give them money for the Coke machine down the hall! I will make this simple and it won't cost you a dime. The animal brain, still a subset of our supposedly advanced brains, is divided into 4 main tasks; Feed, Fight, Fuck and Flight. Pretty much directives any living units need to survive as a species on this planet. Here we deal with a subset of the Feed directive in which the pack eats more, faster in order to get a share of what amounts to the pseudo-kill (buffet food) from an imaginary Fight directive. Translation; the pack knows the obese party will eat like the Alpha-animal, so they increase their intake before the kill is gone. You will find, they eat faster than normal, as well and are more likely to return for another plate. All this is done without the NEED for any conscious thought, because it is already programmed into our base layer.
No, don't give them any money! Fire the professor and don't send your kids to THAT institution. What complete bullshit and a waste of time. Let's all pay more for what we already know. Jeez!
Yow, the famous Chicago politics! Nice stroke of luck to have that neighbor. I think my caveats are pointed more toward the Fed as entrance to a nightmare.
Yeah, probably a lot of approaches, but, like mathematics , there are a lot of constants and similar considerations, as well. Business schools might be a good place for some to start, dunno, I never went. Although, I could recommend joining an MLM, even if it is not your thing, just for the education you get with it. It turned out , not my thing, but, their constant meetings and conventions are filled with universally good data for any business that I can imagine.
Yeah, I still have an intuitive suspicion about "what really happened here". The face of it seems just a bit too coincidental and seems to be only Vegas.
I did neglect to add that borrowing from friends and family is a BAD thing. OPM (other peoples money) is workable in some cases, but other people invest, knowing their risk. Friends and family invest in YOU, not so much as your business. I won't do business with anyone that I wouldn't sell a car to; which means; friends and family. This is part of my reasoning for being self-made.
I also cannot emphasize enough that building from multiple small businesses provides a resource for education that Colleges cannot imagine how to provide. Experience EXPERIENCE ExPeRiEnCe!!! and of course, diversity . A backtrack of my experiences and education is like a strange road ; psychology, music, journalism,audio equipment, advertising, defense contract, recording studio,MLM, paint and coatings,wood-working, instrument production and coming soon alt-energy, aquaponics and beef. Maybe beer! Life is too short not to do whatever strikes you.
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Polished off a bottle of raspberry mead this summer. Yummmm
Wonder if they ever put mushrooms in it.....
Sounds like they would bleed them instead of emptying them. Their are limits to the amount you can withdraw at once. A couple machines a couple times a week would have a single guy living pretty well in a work free existence.
I'd settle for something more credible than all this. I agree with you, being good custodians IS the responsible thing to do, anyway. Meanwhile, keeping a population fed and working with a modern standard of living in industrial nations, while doing the legwork necessary to implement change that doesn't endanger the former, should be done in a trustworthy non-fanatical way. If not, lessons not learned ,they will "continue to bang their heads", "doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results" until it feels better or comes to consequence.
Do it right, and don't come running in here every 10 minutes, waving your arms and shouting, "The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling!" everytime one of your expensive new toys coughs up some theoretical sampling of what it could be like if only we lived in cartoonland and tell me it's credible or YOU'RE FIRED FLINTSTONE! I suppose that about sums it up.
Yes, but what is the OCEANS effect on this. Up until last week, that data was not even considered because we didn't have that data. Now we have the data within grasp and need only the time to compile it. Water covers more than 2/3 of the planet. It is silly, misleading and ignorant to produce results based on less than 1/3 of the necessary data. Further, there may be even more criteria missing, if they were stupid enough to exclude this and try to produce an end product.
It's not that I don't "think" (which is different than "know" or "believe") something may be wrong, but, it cannot be shown in these dark ages of science where money , politics and ambition ARE included in "findings".
I'm saying, instead of working their asses off to produce results, which has landed them in the question of political and monetary bias, they should work their asses off first, to include ALL the criteria necessary to produce a REAL guess.
I view this as missing over 2/3 of the data. So naturally their endeavors seem like a snake oil cure or a carnie blathering crap into a bullhorn in front of the freakshow tent.
The models are missing more than 2/3 of the data necessary to begin to believe they have a rudimentary grasp of ANYTHING.
It's a fact that results up to now are a myth propagated by career scientists and college departments striving for relevance and funding,
Nice of you to drop by and wave a flag for your favorite team; we'll call and let you know if you're needed any further.
These aren't weather models, as others will doubtless tell you.
Besides, how many weathermen are very accurate beyond 3 days?
Not good enough, even if it were a factor.
Since Oceans cover more than 2/3 of the earth, and that data is not factored due to ignorance, I'm going to call that so far from accurate, it almost appears to be blatantly manipulation by biased parties. DUH!
I'll disagree, because we are missing what amounts to more than 2/3 of the data needed for modeling.
To agree would be alarmist, it would be going along to get along. Without the data, attempts to convince me the model is showing this or that just sound like so much manipulation by interested parties. Such as Scientists with a job, that need to do something worthy of keeping that job or the funding alive for it. History has shown private research is hungry to produce results the dollars ask for, college research is easily biased by politics AND money. So, looking out for myself, I poke holes in their half assed research, which heats up their fanbase, but puts the obvious in the open. Like a turd in the punchbowl.
On another note, I can give an example of research for Dollars in action;
Since Seismic activity went up 1000 fold through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas, "Studies" have been done by government and oil industry to see if there is correlation between fracking and the 4.4 tremors now rocking the midwest with great frequency. OF COURSE they found no correlation, what are you nuts?
The midwest now gets earthquakes that just HAPPEN to coincide with the advent of local fracking. Just because the quakes were so infrequent and more subtle before is NO indicator that fracking has anything to do with it. THAT is the official word.
So, with all the "hippies" running the global warming show, you can see my hesitation to buy the word of a greasy, smelly, socialist, hippy waving the green flag. I'm going to need more than half assed research, no matter how much money and time has been thrown at it.
GNP not NGP
Think of it as Taxation with representation when it is convenient and doesn't chew into the payola.
How is this article illustrating something new? Oh, I guess it shows the Fed being more blatant and less secretive about our role as NGP drones for the elite overlords.
The Earth warms, it cools, it warms, it cools.
Models will NEVER be accurate enough for any real predictions, causes or illustrations. Why? Because the input to the models will NEVER have enough, or even appropriate data. If we don't have the Oceans data, and we don't, as highlighted recently by the breakthrough in mapping, we couldn't even begin an approach to modeling the future. What else don't we have? Other criteria, bits of relevant information, which acts on other data, producing results unknown, which again makes up the whole. No, this modeling business could be done on ALL the worlds computers networked together and you'd still have shit. Simply, you don't have enough criteria to accurately say, one way or the other, let alone pinpoint anything.
I'd love to see the gravity models and the data on magnetic poles with compensation for shift. Yeah, thought so...
Leave predictions to gypsies, weathermen, stock brokers and sports pundits. All are on par with a flip of the coin even with all the data they crunch. Don't tell me how damn accurate science is predicting fuck about the Earth.
Frost Pisst fever baby, yeah!
I know a Chinese buffet w/salad , sushi, fresh produce and also the same stir fried, tempura laden, sweet n sour goo that you see the heifers shoving in their grind hole. Not many can resist the lure of the ginger, duck sauce and chili oil , siren call.
It would be interesting to observe a health club eating alongside the triplechin set.
No ,but it is also an example of the basic functions of OUR brains, which is where the overloaded stimulus goes once our capacities for conscious thought have topped out.We call it the animal brain, which all animals posess no matter how smart or dumb their species. Caveboys are an example of a layer of thought above that, Iron age man organized conscious thought even better and so on. Modern man doesn't multitask infinitely, he load balances destructively.
We, as people do more and more mindlessly because of concentration on the myriad of distractions around us. It may explain some violence in our "civilization" , as well if not sexual issues and fear responses.
Also, not supporting a university who would support the janitor as a tenured professor is a layer in thought above your capacity.
Yes, portion control IS the problem. You see, our lives have become so complex, our brains are always trying to handle more than they should. To offset the load on our conscious thinking, we go on autopilot, with more primal thinking using the layer beneath consciousness; the animal brain, our base functions handed down through genetic memory. Think of it as the Basic programming language for the animal kingdom. People and all others have been PROGRAMMED through survival of the species to eat until full. It takes conscious thought to overcome this. People are capable of this, provided they do not have to relegate basic functions back to base instruction sets. I think upon examining what I have stated here, you can also apply this to the other 3 functions as well and solve other social ills. Fighting; we are taught to sublimate this to negotiation through activities like debate fueled by logic and reason, when this breaks down, battery occurs.Flight; people can react to fear stimulii by logic and reason of conscious thought and overcome their fear to furtherance of their enrichment or they can run like a cat with kerosene on its butthole. Fucking; well, we can look at the effect of logic and reason in mating over the troubles occurring from mating like the base animals we come from, no matter how fun it might be at the moment.
Because there is seldom anything ethical in the law.
Laws are external regulators, ethics come from within.
External regulation requires a host of legislation, enforcement and judiciary.
Internal regulation is self contained, costs nothing and wastes no time of others.
Yes, Facebook needs to be ethical over law abiding. I don't care to throw money at it to keep it law abiding. Money needs to go to IMPORTANT things instead.
Actually, if they got VOLUNTEERS, it would be ethical.
Kind of like experimental drug studies, the subjects need to know they are being experimented on, in order that it be ethical.
I look at the Yellow Submarine cartoon and think " I bet they used a lot of LSD"
I look at the old spider man and Star Trek cartoons and think" I bet they used a lot of antacid".
Those are auto functions deeper than the Animal brain. They also include instruction sets for your organs, in case you think sleeping,breathing and shitting will get you to the next day.
A lot of additives, preservatives, were approved in the 70s.
Look at the list on the back of any snack wrapper. Look at the amount of oils, salty preservatives or just plain sugar/corn syrup present.
Unfortunately this article is more about a scam to resell knowledge we already possess as something new to $tudy.
The more intricate and involved "Americans" lives get, the less their ability to overcome with logic their base animal brains directives about feeding in a pack situation.
Obesity is less about the quality of foods in this problem and more about eating thoughtfully. When your mind is focused on all the facets of American life, it is not focused on the plate in front of you. They are then on autopilot with regards to feeding. The animal brain then says" Look! the fat one is eating ALL the food, so get as much as you can and eat it as quickly as you can, so no one gets your share of the kill" Quite literally, this is what happens. It requires NO money for further study and the professor involved needs castrated and relegated to the custodial dept. of whatever institution he professes for.
Wow, the ol' S word; Study. It really looks to me as though someone took the already known behaviors from "pack mentality", engrained behaviors in our base animal brain, then painted it another color so they could say "look at this pink elephant, give me money to study it"
I wouldn't give them money for the Coke machine down the hall!
I will make this simple and it won't cost you a dime.
The animal brain, still a subset of our supposedly advanced brains, is divided into 4 main tasks; Feed, Fight, Fuck and Flight. Pretty much directives any living units need to survive as a species on this planet. Here we deal with a subset of the Feed directive in which the pack eats more, faster in order to get a share of what amounts to the pseudo-kill (buffet food) from an imaginary Fight directive. Translation; the pack knows the obese party will eat like the Alpha-animal, so they increase their intake before the kill is gone. You will find, they eat faster than normal, as well and are more likely to return for another plate. All this is done without the NEED for any conscious thought, because it is already programmed into our base layer.
No, don't give them any money! Fire the professor and don't send your kids to THAT institution. What complete bullshit and a waste of time.
Let's all pay more for what we already know. Jeez!
Yow, the famous Chicago politics! Nice stroke of luck to have that neighbor.
I think my caveats are pointed more toward the Fed as entrance to a nightmare.
Yeah, probably a lot of approaches, but, like mathematics , there are a lot of constants and similar considerations, as well.
Business schools might be a good place for some to start, dunno, I never went. Although, I could recommend joining an MLM, even if it is not your thing, just for the education you get with it. It turned out , not my thing, but, their constant meetings and conventions are filled with universally good data for any business that I can imagine.
Yeah, I still have an intuitive suspicion about "what really happened here".
The face of it seems just a bit too coincidental and seems to be only Vegas.
I like the way you put it.
I did neglect to add that borrowing from friends and family is a BAD thing. OPM (other peoples money) is workable in some cases, but other people invest, knowing their risk. Friends and family invest in YOU, not so much as your business. I won't do business with anyone that I wouldn't sell a car to; which means; friends and family. This is part of my reasoning for being self-made.
I also cannot emphasize enough that building from multiple small businesses provides a resource for education that Colleges cannot imagine how to provide.
Experience EXPERIENCE ExPeRiEnCe!!! and of course, diversity .
A backtrack of my experiences and education is like a strange road ; psychology, music, journalism,audio equipment, advertising, defense contract, recording studio,MLM, paint and coatings,wood-working, instrument production and coming soon alt-energy, aquaponics and beef. Maybe beer!
Life is too short not to do whatever strikes you.