Actually thinking about it I almost want this to be true, we need strong competition and a dipshit move like this would push a LOT of business towards AMD. I can tell you I've been building AMD exclusively for nearly 5 years, even putting my money where my mouth is and having my entire family on AMD (5 desktops including 3 gamer, 1 netbook and 1 laptop) that 90% will never know the difference between Intel and AMD because the CPU just isn't the bottleneck anymore. When you look at the jobs folks have, movies, IM, gaming, surfing, burning DVDs? I could put a high end Intel system and a bottom of the line $70 AMD quad side by side and they honestly wouldn't notice a difference, even the low end stuff is MUCH faster than the users ability to come up with useful work to give it.
So I do hope everyone here is putting their money where their mouth is and supporting AMD by buying their chips, because i can tell you I play the latest games, including the latest shooters, transcode video, do multitrack audio editing, and even on this $100 AMD Hexacore it just chews through the tasks with ease, and the money I saved on the CPU lets me get more powerful parts where it DOES matter, like faster GPU, more RAM, and an SSD for caching I'm gonna pick up after the silly season. Plus being able to go from a single to a dual to a quad without replacing the board or any other parts? Niiice, and as a bonus when I decided to go hexa I could just pass that quad and board to the youngest who is blasting through his MMOs without a bit of trouble.
Only advice i'd add is for those that are just switching? don't bother with the stock AMD coolers as they are crap, pick up a Coolermaster 212 or N520, they can be had for under $40 (under $20 for the 212), they fit in any mATX case no problem, and they really do make a BIG difference when it comes to temps. I went from an idle of 112f and load of nearly 140f on stock to an idle of 84f and a max load of 128f on the N520 with just the stock Coolmaster paste that is included, I changed that for Arctic Silver with the oldest boy's X6 and dropped 4f idle and 7f load, so well worth the $34 for the cooler.
HA HA HA HA HA...oh wait, you were serious? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Damn, thanks for the laugh, i haven't heard anything so absurd in years!
Now let me tell you about reality, and the simple fact and reality of ARM is it can't even manage the IPC of an 8 year old netburst P4, it sure as hell isn't gonna get enough IPC to run triple A rated games. Hell even the ARM holdings group has realized this, which is why their last couple of talks have been about "dark silicon" because you can't turn all of the chip on at once without killing the battery or slamming into the thermal wall just as X86 did around 4Ghz. This is why you see Nvidia piling 5 cores into its latest Tegra, because they can't get the single core IPC up enough to make up for the weakness of the ARM core so they are throwing more cores at it, but anybody that has run any kind of modern gaming benchmarks can tell you most games will NOT gain from multiple cores, at best they need one "supercore" for the main game and a few weaker cores to take sound, pathfinding, etc.
So the only way ARM is gonna be a "gaming platform' is if you specify gaming to ONLY be the "cut the rope, Angry Birds' casual games. try to do a Crysis 3 or gears of War on ARM would be an uberfail, it just doesn't have the IPC to deal with the physics, ragdolls, fire and water effects, it just won't cut the mustard. ARM is designed for low power and just doesn't scale, in fact it'll be easier for Intel to scale down to meet ARM's power than it will be for ARM to scale up, just because intel has such a huge lead on IPC they could cut the chip performance of a Core i3 in half and still curbstomp ARM.
That's not to say ARM is a bad chip for mobile or embedded, its just not made for the heavy lifting required to give people AAA gaming, not anywhere even close to what X86 was cranking out 6 years ago much less the latest stuff, it would be like trying to replace a semi with a moped, it may be cheaper on gas but it just can't carry the load.
Uhh...what you just described was the exactly polar opposite of an enthusiast, what you just described is what we call a 'soccer mom' in shop circles. I mean sure if all you do is play angry birds and facebook games then ARM is just fine, but those kind of people frankly won't give a shit if its a black box or not, see the lines for the latest iDevices.
The problem is all your "training" is worth exactly piss as long as resisting arrest and disorderly conduct are on the books, because frankly both of those laws are written so damned vague (on purpose i would argue) that saying "What is the charge?" is enough to get those charges slapped on you, and once you rot in a jail cell for a week or so (remember they can hold up to 5 days without charge in most places) they will have their "chilling effect" and insure that nobody dare not "respect my authority!".
Of course there is a reason why in poor neighborhoods most wouldn't piss on a cop if he were on fire, its because the heavy handed skull cracking jackbooted thug bullshit has been going on far too long. Everyone thinks having a camera to record this thug behavior will help but for all those people I invite you to watch the largest gang in America and to realize that the majority if these, even when caught on camera, did NOT go to jail or even lose their jobs, despite overwhelming evidence of them cracking skulls and being...well gangbangers with badges.
So good luck with your training doing shit friend. I live on the "meth highway" and I had a friend who was a cop that quit in disgust, he said it had gotten to the point that he viewed his fellow officers as more of an enemy than the crooks! He said the few good ones left aren't gonna say shit about the others thanks to the code of silence, and he was surrounded by cops that were in it for the "Training day" style corruption or that were bullies that simply wanted a badge to crack the skulls of those they didn't like. Having a camera won't do shit because the corruption is too deep, too many of them are in it for the money or the ability to inflict pain, and as long as they can walk even after getting caught on camera then all the "training" in the world ain't gonna do shit.
Exactly, which makes me think these chips are gonna turn out to be their replacement for the Atom. After all the Atom was soldered and nobody cared right? but if they think they can force the lucrative server market to spend many thousands of dollars on a board with soldered CPUs, so if you need to boost performanje later you have to just throw the whole thing on the garbage heap and start over? Think again, it would give AMD the biggest Xmas prezzie because nobody is spending that kind of money for a soldered chip.
But is anybody else looking at "the future" and thinking its gonna be a giant black box assraping corporate circle jerk? They are trying to force us onto platforms that aren't suitable for purpose like the tablets, simply because they can make a mint with lock in and appstores, and now trying to make everything a locked down mess hardware wise, so your only choice will be to throw away and buy more.
And where the fuck is antitrust in all this? Hello EU, they will be wiping out a half a dozen companies to capture the market for themselves, just as they did with IGP by slitting nvidia's throat, and I know we here in America lost control to the corps but you have generally frowned on this kind of shit, so WTF?
As for me this is all the more reason to continue buying AMD, as all my games play fine, I went from a single to a dual to a quad on my last board and on this one I can go up to the latest 8 cores if I want (although those $100 6 core Phenoms are nice enough for me) and most importantly I'm not having to throw the whole damned thing out if I need more speed down the road. if this kind of bullshit had been in place I'd be on my fifth board now instead of my second, and when you figure in how much higher the boards would be if you were stuck with whatever CPU they soldered in? NOT a smart buy. I have a feeling the big board companies like AsusRock and Gigabyte will be pushing AMD, not like they've got a choice as Intel would be doing to them what they did to Nvidia.
But I have no desire to get stuck on some locked down ARM wannabe playing Angry Birds, I want AAA gaming, I want to be able to transcode, I want to be able to build up my system as time goes on, and if this is true that just means Intel won't be coming near any of my computers, the loss of choice won't be worth the increased IPC.
but here goes...is Canonical financially solvent? If it is why did you burn so much good will that you had with the users by allowing the Amazon search which doesn't even have an adult filter that works so that kids can be exposed to inappropriate, in violation of Amazon's own rules which state you have to be 18+ to use their market?
And if Canonical currently isn't in the black, how much will it take to make it a cash positive company? did the Amazon deal bring in enough, or is there gonna have to be MORE ads and MORE revenue making apps baked into Ubuntu to make the company solid financially?
Watch me get modded down for daring not to ask the cutesy ass kissing questions like what are being modded up here, but when one has the head of a company on the horn, and I don't give a damned WHICH company it is, one ought to ask the hard questions and use the opportunity to get some real answers.
Don't have time to look them up as i gotta get to the shop, but all you have to do is go to YouTube and look under phrases like "Ron Paul voting wrong" or "Ron Paul NH numbers" and you'll find them quick enough, and as i said Alex Jones has the video of the RNC calling a voice vote and having the fricking RESULTS on the teleprompter BEFORE the vote had been cast...blatant much?
But I really don't know what you think some "international observers" are gonna do when the US gov don't even respect other country's airspace, they sure as fuck ain't gonna respect their opinions about anything. Hell look up "Ohio rigged 2004" on YouTube to see cops HAULING OFF anybody who dared point out the poor had the RIGHT to an absentee ballot in Ohio! Silly peasants, thinking they had rights.
Want some good AI? Play Far Cry 1 (Do NOT play Far Cry 2, its so retarded they had to come up with an in game excuse to why so many guys on your side is shooting at you), play Fear 1&2, I like the Crysis series although they don't come up to Far Cry 1 levels, I also like the Deus Ex series although again, not as good as Far Cry 1 and Fear AI.
To me good AI doesn't have to be brilliant, just make me work for it, like the way I'd have to look for any ways I could be snuck up on in Fear and place mines, or have an exit strategy like in Far Cry or Crysis.
This is why I will always look for games that have mods, because often a mod can make a bad game good and a good game great. take your Bioshock example, there is a mod called "Bioshock for real" or something like that that will make that game so damned hard you won't believe you are playing the same game. you get different amounts for killing the sisters (thus putting an actual moral choice in it) and you won't be getting much of nothing from the bad guys and hacking? fucking HARD and you won't get any great rewards for pulling it off, just slightly lower prices which with money so scarce you'll be damned grateful for.
But I agree, even though I looove the Bioshock series (yes I even loved the second one, Minerva's Den i thought was nearly as good as the first game) the game devs are obviously more about telling a story than beating the player. While I think this is fine i do prefer games where there is a hard level that is REAL hard, so if I'm not feeling challenged I can ramp up. For the games that don't though, give me mods. Frankly I haven't seen a game that mods can't make better, from the dozens of new systems in Freelancer to taping the flashlight to the gun in doom 3, mods can fix a LOT of problems.
That is why I like sandboxes like Just Cause II and Saints Row III, while they are open as hell and you can just ignore the missions if you want there is still a story with a beginning, middle and end. That explains why I also have never been able to get into MMOs, I like having something other than a hamster wheel as a goal. But thinking of it as a toy rather than a game? something I haven't thought of, but makes sense.
Except the critical 18-49 group don't fall into your measuring methods because they aren't sitting there watching your crap or answering your polls!
A perfect example is my boys, 18 and 20...do EITHER of them watch TV? Nope, its all computers and social networks, neither of them watched squat. The "47%" and "Ugly car" flubs they knew about because of Colbert and Stewart. Frankly they have a bigger audience than the pundits and when you give them easy cannon fodder like that? expect to be spanked.
But to reach those types you are gonna have to cut through the bullshit and not come off like a used car salesman, which Romney felt too much like a guy trying to sell you a dodgy Ford, whereas the smart thing Obama did was sending in Clinton, who is able to pull off easy going bubba ordinary like its a second skin.
Its because so few have had to deal with the truly batshit and frankly don't LIKE the thought that death can come for no damned reason from somebody you have never done a damned thing to that its easier for them to try to come up with "motives" that frankly often may only exist in the mind of the killer, hell if there ever was one.
Spending most of my life near the strip known as "the meth highway" and hanging out on the wrong side of the tracks i can tell you there ARE plenty of truly batshit crazy people out there, hell many of them manage to even hold jobs and live like normal people...until they snap like a twig. Down the street was an old home that had been in the family 5 generations, its gone now because the grandson killed everybody in the house and torched the place...why? Nobody knows, even he don't know, all he said at his trial is "somebody there must have made me mad or something". Hell he wasn't even on drugs at the time so he can't be written off as having a freak out, he just went total batshit one day.
So maybe she had a reason, maybe she didn't, hell maybe grandpa did it and the daughter covered it up, who the fuck knows, that is why she got not guilty. Watching the trial it was obvious there was reason to believe it could be EITHER the mom (didn't want the kid) or grandpa (molestation) and the cops simply couldn't ever pin down one way or another who did it beyond a reasonable doubt. But to try to pin complex motives to most of these cases simply won't work, because frankly there are a LOT of truly right on the edge of rubber room batshit crazy people out there and frankly if they go off? The only "motive' might be as simple as "I didn't like his shirt".
Yeah, good luck with suing the US government pal. hell they have video of it all over YouTube, it wasn't like they were subtle and everybody and their dog has a camera phone now so it isn't like you can do anything without getting filmed, but to get criminal charges filed you have to get an AG willing to prosecute, good luck with that.
You see since BOTH sides want to cash the checks, get their friends jobs, enjoy a cushy life after office, and enjoy all the perks of a corrupt system they won't bust the OTHER guy for it because THEY want to be able to do the same thing when they get their shot. It would be like having the mob overseeing the Yakuza, knowing full well ANY rules they impose on the Yakuza will be imposed upon them as well...how many rules do you think they'd impose under those conditions?
I hate to break this to ya, as its scary as hell, but look at Germany in 37/38 and you'll see where most likely the USA will end up. Just watch this video and look at the charts starting around 3.30 and you'll see the collapse is inevitable, it simply can't be stopped at this point. You have more than 400% of the country's GDP, as well as the retirement of tens of millions of workers, all tied up in this massive bubble that is the stock market. Just as the bubble burst in 29 so too will the bubble burst here, only with THAT much money tied into it it'll make 29 look like a computer glitch.
But if you are in the EU you probably shouldn't worry, most likely its South America that we'll treat like Germany treated Poland. I truly believe this is why neither side will say or do shit about immigration, because they WANT the peasants hating the people south of the border, so if the bubble ever bursts they can cook up a false flag and roll the tanks. Lots of resources south of the border, oil, gas, lumber, mines, lots of stuff that could be used to prop up a collapsed economy. I feel sorry for the people of south america but when you have a militaristic country armed to the teeth it simply won't "go softly into that good night" and as the crazy Austrian noted back then the way to get people off the internal problems is to manufacture an external threat.
Look, you are basically building straw men to knock down here, because if you have bothered to use one of those digital to analog adapters you know that analog TVs LOOK LIKE SHIT because they just can't get the colors and brightness levels right on the analog TVs. I should know as my mom had what was an expensive analog set, still looked like shit. Finally I just bought her a 40 inch 1080P and said "here, now let go of the old crap set" and she is happy as a clam. Hell they were selling 19-22 inchers online for $79-$99 so the odds are this guy, who just FYI didn't state a damned thing about having analog sets, has already moved away from analog TVs years ago, so arguing about them with ZERO evidence that the guy even has one is a straw man. hell there are plenty of dirt poor in my building and even THEY have LCD TVs now, pawn shops have the under 32 inches for a little of nothing.
And the simple fact is look on project greenlight, you have more games being chosen per day than you could possibly ever play, and nearly all the indies are old school and like old school gameplay which includes SSMP, but not only that but there are so many FTP MMOs on there now it isn't even funny. So you are talking about dozens if not hundreds of free games to play right off the bat, no worry about them getting some game with malware off of Steam, nearly every game that has come out in the past few years supports the X360 controller, and unlike the consoles it can game AND IM AND surf AND watch YouTube AND be a media tank AND do any other task a full fledged PC can do. When a PC can't game anymore there are plenty of other uses for it, bedroom PC or media tank or office box, when that console isn't supported anymore? into the closet it goes. i know because my youngest was into consoles and handhelds for the longest time and he has a fricking pile of them gathering dust, PSP, DS, Wii, Xbox 1, PS 1, Dreamcast, Gamecube, all of them gathering dust. Meanwhile the PC I gave him to game on 8 years ago is now an office box for a former neighbor, got enough for his old game PC to buy him more RAM for his new system.
So unless you can point out a section of TFA I missed where he imposed these limitations you are just coming up with hoops to jump that frankly in all likelihood don't even exist IRL. You might as well say "If his TV is B&W then the PC won't work!" yeah but if he is on B&W he shouldn't be buying consoles should he? By that same token if he is still using power sucking analog sets frankly replacing those would be a better use of his money than buying ANYTHING else as far as gaming, just the lowered electric bills would give him the money to get his HTPC or console later.
And how many games AC have YOU played that this sentence would fit? "Graphics looked good, gameplay sucked" because Lord knows i have played a fricking TON of games in the past few years that fit that description. It was one set piece to another set piece being drug by the nose with crappy play mechanics.
Here let me give a few examples...Bulletstorm, sounds like a winner right? you got the guys that did Painkiller, that was pure fun, hooked up with EA to do their own take on the whole modern shooter genre, it ought to be a hoot! Nope, the jokes fall flat, the weapons SUCK MASSIVELY, and by tying the UPGRADE SYSTEM to how over the top you make your kills you just turned fun into a fucking grind.
How about F.E.A.R. 3, or how they spelled F3AR, should have known off the bat when they do a douchey letter to numbers switch we were in trouble, but fuuuck! Fear 1 & 2 were fricking great! Bad guys smart, weapons satisfying, sure the horror didn't work but like Yahtzee said "The only way to have horror in an FPS is to tape a picture of Dracula to your iron sights" but it was still FUN with a capital F, so the third HAS to be good right? Nope, AI retarded, weapons are WORTHLESS, and I mean that, if you haven't played it there is not ONE truly good weapon in the whole fucking game, I mean you can only carry 36 fucking bullets for the pistol? WTF? My out of shape ass can carry more than 36 9mm rounds! Levels bland, and the whole thing took what was a great franchise and turned it into a bunch of co-op maps with bad weapons. Frankly it would not surprise me to find out like Mario 2 that this was some other game that someone just slapped the Fear name and characters in to make a quick buck.
So I have to agree with TFA, especially on shooters, sure they look great but where is the FUN? Where is the next funny shooter like No One Lives Forever, where I can set kitty bombs and giggle as a bad guy walks up and goes "ohh, its a kitten...meow BOOM!" or the next Far Cry or Fear where the AI uses squad tactics and makes me feel that sense of "fuck yeah! You didn't see THAT coming did you?" when you manage to set up an ambush? Where is the next Painkiller or Crysis that gives me some really bad ass weapons instead of the same shit they hand us in every game, so i feel like Arnie or Stallone starring in my own action flick?
Sure the VISUALS have gotten better, but everything else took a wrong turn and ended up in shit town. The weapons unsatisfying, AI Forest Gump stupid, levels boring, it all feels like a fricking chore.
See this is what I don't get, how does "measuring" them make you win? That is like saying if you can take a measurement of the fish in the water he'll jump right into the boat. Hell I'd argue that most if not all of the polling was completely worthless, sure it'll let you target more ads to the groups that are tuning out but you can target ads all day but if you do a serious fuckup like mittens and the "47%" or the "ugly car" flubs then give it the fuck up, all the focus groups in the world can't fix that.
So I REALLY don't get the circle jerking we've had the past couple of elections on focus groups, hell all they can do is help you target ads and a lot of the young people i know simply don't allow ads, they DVR the TV and they have adblock on the browser, so you can spend until hell freezes over they just ain't listening.
Geez, do I REALLY have to spell out how this works? if I buy BOTH guys then it really don't fucking MATTER which one you pick does it? And THAT is what you have. I personally think he is batshit but Alex Jones got on tape a perfect example of rigging the game when it looked like the outcome wasn't gonna be to their liking, he caught footage of the teleprompter on the voice vote for allowing the Ron Paul delegation to speak. BEFORE THE VOTE WAS CALLED it already had the "results" on the fucking teleprompter and they just read it, even though anybody with ears could hear the vote was too damned close to do by voice!
And there are a TON of examples of outright primary rigging by both parties, just check out YouTube. Hell they even have the guys in charge of counting the rep primary votes in NH going "Uhhh...that's not the numbers we counted, its not even close" but did anybody give a shit? hell look up how John Fricking Stewart even made a clip set showing how Ron paul became "He who shall not be named" even getting to the point that one of the reporters says "We are talking about Christie and Palin, who aren't even here OR running, and not a word about Paul who is actually doing good here" and the douchebag anchor gets a smirk and says "If you get any footage of Christie or Palin send it in, but you can keep the Paul footage" I mean its so fucking obvious they are rigging it by killing his media coverage they are even smirking about it ON CAMERA.
So I'm sorry but you'll get corporate whore #1 or #2, it doesn't matter in the end because BOTH are bought and paid for. fuck why do you think Obama kept so much of Bush's policies? Because his corporate masters told him too! If you TRULY believe voting does jack shit i don't know whether to admire how naive you are, or pity the cluelessness that it takes to buy that bullshit.
Because again we have ALREADY TRIED IT and what we got was polluted rivers, strikers executed by private armies, and those at the top living just like the barons of feudal times.
Now maybe you LIKE the idea of the air being as nasty as China, of having rivers catch fire like they did in the 70s, or having corporate masters own you through a company store, but none of that sounds very appealing to me. hell before i'd sign on for another round of kiss the corporate ass I'd go socialism, at least countries like Iceland seem to be making a civilized go of it.
the simple fact is without any government "intrusion" you quickly become Somalia, because again when there are little to no rules it devolves into "he who has the gold makes the rules" and I hate to break the news to ya, but if you think you have next to no chance of joining that little 1% club now? Just try it in the age of the barons. anybody that tried to compete with them were lucky if the barons just sent the Pinkertons to burn their house down, if not they ended up quite dead.
Those were just great weren't they? Its just a shame the shipping would kill you as there is a local shop selling tons of 80s PCs of all types on Craigslist for the gold in 'em, you name it they got it, Atari, Commodores, the whole lot. damned shame I don't have the room I'd pick up a couple for myself just for the nostalgia.
Well that just proves my point, don't it? they were gonna gimp the living fuck out of their machine right of the bat and even after devs pointed it out all they did was double it from pathetic to just lame.
Again crack open an Xbox 1 sometime if you want to see just how bad they are at design, if it wasn't for the fact that the P3 wasn't a space heater like the P4 frankly the thing would have cooked, it has one of the most piss poor designs when it comes to removing heat I've ever seen. Even those shitty phone book sized Compaq deskpros had better cooling, WTF MSFT? Can't you hire decent designers with all that money?
So I would frankly be amazed if valve doesn't just clean up with the Steambox, you got Nintendo with a weak system, Sony is just putting out a 2 year old PC because they don't have another billion to blow on R&D and MSFT will probably cheap out and gimp their system when it comes to RAM.
You want to know what I fucking hate about Linux? Two things, 1.-The FOSSie faction are so fucking batshit that you can rub their nose in fucking horrible design choices like rubbing a puppy's nose in shit and they'll just go "La la la, smells like roses, la la la" and 2.- FIX YOUR SHITTY DRIVER SUBSYSTEM ALREADY!
For the love of God how damned long is everybody gonna buy Torvalds bullshit about an ABI? watch how even basic fucking math can show he is full of shit...You have MAYBE 2000 guys IF THAT on the ENTIRE PLANET that are truly qualified to debug and write low level system drivers and are willing to deal with Torvalds and his cronies, how many drivers you got? Ohh 150,000 EASY. so if you shot Bolivian marching powder up the asses of those 2000 guys 24/7/365 then they STILL wouldn't have enough fucking hours to provide QA and QC for the insane amount of drivers that get shit on each fucking month...ARRRGH!
So until the fucking FOSSies admit that EVERY SINGLE OS ON THE PLANET besides theirs, BSD, OSX, Windows, fuck even OS/2, are NOT wrong on such an obvious God damned design choice then yeah, i'm gonna point out they are completely full of shit. I have offered time and time again for them to step up and take the hairyfeet challenge, NONE will accept...why? because they KNOW the drivers will shit the bed, that's why! And I'm giving them not one but TWO major advantages right off the bat, they are only having to show they can support HALF the lifecycle of Windows and I'm willing to take Vista, the shittiest release this side of WinME!
So while you seem like a sane guy I hope you can see why I'm happy to bitchslap a FOSSie whenever I can because they are fucking delusional! I mean you go to TMRepo and that is EVERY argument you will see here condensed to 20 or so lines of bullshit, the "it works for me" the "moving the goalposts" the "Linux has more drivers" every line of complete fucking horseshit spewed from the mouths of FOSSies for 20 damned years in just 20 TMs.
But what do they do when the truth is rubbed into their noses like shit? "La la la, you're a dirty poo poo head that must work for M$!, You just love M$"...riiight, which is why I've been calling for Ballmer to be fucking FIRED for half a decade, and why I said Win 8 is a cheap cellphone wannabe that other than HTPCs where you want big ass screen sucking buttons to make it easy to hit with a remote it is a giant pile of shit, unsuitable for purpose. yep i bet Steve Ballmer himself goes "You know he's right, I AM a big fat sweaty incompetent that only got this job by being Bill's little buddy! let's hire that guy right now!"...fucking retards, that's what they are, total fucking retards that have drank so much of the koolaid that Torvalds could change the code so that every damned desktop just played a GIF of him laying a big old turd on a plate and they'd be discussing "How Linus is pointing out what its like to deal with proprietary software!".
The PS3 cost so much because of BD not because of the RAM, and again we are talking about an 800 pound gorilla that is in bed tight with the GPU manufacturers thanks to DirectX....you telling me MSFT couldn't pick up a phone and get a good deal on GDDR3 when we are talking EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT to make RAM that will go into millions of units?
Sorry but I just don't buy that, more likely they were already dealing with heat issues before "Duh, I'm a CEO herpa derp!" Ballmer was trying to shove it out the door so rather than put some decent cooling in there and up the RAM they said "fuck it, that'll do" and shoved it out the door. Wouldn't be the first time, anybody that cracked open an XBox 1 knows there was some fucked up design issues, especially when it came to cooling.
Ohhh, did the poor wittle FOSSie get his panties in a wad this morning? And its kind of sad that FOSS attracts total fucking retards like yourself (Protip: Don't go full retard) or else you would have known I've been BASHING THE FUCK OUT OF WIN 8 YOU DIPSHIT which kind of makes it pretty hard to be a fanboi (like you so obviously are) or shill when I'M BASHING THE LATEST PRODUCT AS GARBAGE
And hey dipshit, you no able to read? how about You read the specs and compare because by the pathetic thing you call logic why then a G3 from 1997 is cutting edge, why it has a PPC chip too...right?
He didn't say a thing about the Wii, because Nintendo targets a different demographic than the one MSFT is after, so they really don't care about the Wii as you don't see the hardcore players getting down to some Animal Crossing, they are all playing shooters, which is MSFT and Sony.
And in case you haven't heard Sony has been bleeding money for several quarters now, we are talking serious losses, so all it would take is for MSFT to release a monster to crush Sony like a bug. It has already been reported that Sony is going with a COTS AMD APU because they simply don't have the money to build another monster (last figures were a billion dollars for the PS3 R&D) so not only does MSFT know what the competition is doing, they also know that one more good smack would be all it would take, they could let Nintendo take the casuals while they take the hardcore and leave Sony out in the cold.
but the reason that they won't pull the trigger on Sony isn't IMHO worries about anti-trust, its the fact that the board is probably shitting puppies right now over the fact that their billion dollar marketing campaign for Win "Cellphone" 8 has been a giant bust and its looking to be another Vista, so sinking another couple of billion so soon after getting a body blow like that probably ain't real high on the board's priorities. More likely they'll bump up the speed and RAM and add a hotter GPU and it'll be more of a "360+" than a true next gen, because they have bigger fish to fry, like how to get a foothold in mobile and what to do about nobody buying their latest OS.
Why did he get modded down when that is pretty much it in a nutshell? Nintendo bought a chip that is barely more powerful than the one they have in the Wii and expect devs to deal with it by using the more powerful GPU instead. Problem is with more and more games having tons of physics and ragdolls and the like there is only so much a powerful GPU will cover for before you end up gimped by the CPU.
Hell this is pretty much the same strategy AMD has been using for a couple of generations now and they aren't doing so hot either, are they? It all comes down to a balancing act and Nintendo just went too far when it came to how weak a CPU they could get away with, simple as that. My guess is because they are gonna be targeting casual gamers they figure its enough to run Mario and Animal Crossing and so they figure its "good enough". Lets be honest folks, Nintindo hasn't gone for the hardcore players for a couple of generations now, so it should be of no surprise that their new system just can't run the hardcore shooters that are the hallmark of the hardcore gamers.
Actually thinking about it I almost want this to be true, we need strong competition and a dipshit move like this would push a LOT of business towards AMD. I can tell you I've been building AMD exclusively for nearly 5 years, even putting my money where my mouth is and having my entire family on AMD (5 desktops including 3 gamer, 1 netbook and 1 laptop) that 90% will never know the difference between Intel and AMD because the CPU just isn't the bottleneck anymore. When you look at the jobs folks have, movies, IM, gaming, surfing, burning DVDs? I could put a high end Intel system and a bottom of the line $70 AMD quad side by side and they honestly wouldn't notice a difference, even the low end stuff is MUCH faster than the users ability to come up with useful work to give it.
So I do hope everyone here is putting their money where their mouth is and supporting AMD by buying their chips, because i can tell you I play the latest games, including the latest shooters, transcode video, do multitrack audio editing, and even on this $100 AMD Hexacore it just chews through the tasks with ease, and the money I saved on the CPU lets me get more powerful parts where it DOES matter, like faster GPU, more RAM, and an SSD for caching I'm gonna pick up after the silly season. Plus being able to go from a single to a dual to a quad without replacing the board or any other parts? Niiice, and as a bonus when I decided to go hexa I could just pass that quad and board to the youngest who is blasting through his MMOs without a bit of trouble.
Only advice i'd add is for those that are just switching? don't bother with the stock AMD coolers as they are crap, pick up a Coolermaster 212 or N520, they can be had for under $40 (under $20 for the 212), they fit in any mATX case no problem, and they really do make a BIG difference when it comes to temps. I went from an idle of 112f and load of nearly 140f on stock to an idle of 84f and a max load of 128f on the N520 with just the stock Coolmaster paste that is included, I changed that for Arctic Silver with the oldest boy's X6 and dropped 4f idle and 7f load, so well worth the $34 for the cooler.
HA HA HA HA HA...oh wait, you were serious? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Damn, thanks for the laugh, i haven't heard anything so absurd in years!
Now let me tell you about reality, and the simple fact and reality of ARM is it can't even manage the IPC of an 8 year old netburst P4, it sure as hell isn't gonna get enough IPC to run triple A rated games. Hell even the ARM holdings group has realized this, which is why their last couple of talks have been about "dark silicon" because you can't turn all of the chip on at once without killing the battery or slamming into the thermal wall just as X86 did around 4Ghz. This is why you see Nvidia piling 5 cores into its latest Tegra, because they can't get the single core IPC up enough to make up for the weakness of the ARM core so they are throwing more cores at it, but anybody that has run any kind of modern gaming benchmarks can tell you most games will NOT gain from multiple cores, at best they need one "supercore" for the main game and a few weaker cores to take sound, pathfinding, etc.
So the only way ARM is gonna be a "gaming platform' is if you specify gaming to ONLY be the "cut the rope, Angry Birds' casual games. try to do a Crysis 3 or gears of War on ARM would be an uberfail, it just doesn't have the IPC to deal with the physics, ragdolls, fire and water effects, it just won't cut the mustard. ARM is designed for low power and just doesn't scale, in fact it'll be easier for Intel to scale down to meet ARM's power than it will be for ARM to scale up, just because intel has such a huge lead on IPC they could cut the chip performance of a Core i3 in half and still curbstomp ARM.
That's not to say ARM is a bad chip for mobile or embedded, its just not made for the heavy lifting required to give people AAA gaming, not anywhere even close to what X86 was cranking out 6 years ago much less the latest stuff, it would be like trying to replace a semi with a moped, it may be cheaper on gas but it just can't carry the load.
Uhh...what you just described was the exactly polar opposite of an enthusiast, what you just described is what we call a 'soccer mom' in shop circles. I mean sure if all you do is play angry birds and facebook games then ARM is just fine, but those kind of people frankly won't give a shit if its a black box or not, see the lines for the latest iDevices.
The problem is all your "training" is worth exactly piss as long as resisting arrest and disorderly conduct are on the books, because frankly both of those laws are written so damned vague (on purpose i would argue) that saying "What is the charge?" is enough to get those charges slapped on you, and once you rot in a jail cell for a week or so (remember they can hold up to 5 days without charge in most places) they will have their "chilling effect" and insure that nobody dare not "respect my authority!".
Of course there is a reason why in poor neighborhoods most wouldn't piss on a cop if he were on fire, its because the heavy handed skull cracking jackbooted thug bullshit has been going on far too long. Everyone thinks having a camera to record this thug behavior will help but for all those people I invite you to watch the largest gang in America and to realize that the majority if these, even when caught on camera, did NOT go to jail or even lose their jobs, despite overwhelming evidence of them cracking skulls and being...well gangbangers with badges.
So good luck with your training doing shit friend. I live on the "meth highway" and I had a friend who was a cop that quit in disgust, he said it had gotten to the point that he viewed his fellow officers as more of an enemy than the crooks! He said the few good ones left aren't gonna say shit about the others thanks to the code of silence, and he was surrounded by cops that were in it for the "Training day" style corruption or that were bullies that simply wanted a badge to crack the skulls of those they didn't like. Having a camera won't do shit because the corruption is too deep, too many of them are in it for the money or the ability to inflict pain, and as long as they can walk even after getting caught on camera then all the "training" in the world ain't gonna do shit.
Exactly, which makes me think these chips are gonna turn out to be their replacement for the Atom. After all the Atom was soldered and nobody cared right? but if they think they can force the lucrative server market to spend many thousands of dollars on a board with soldered CPUs, so if you need to boost performanje later you have to just throw the whole thing on the garbage heap and start over? Think again, it would give AMD the biggest Xmas prezzie because nobody is spending that kind of money for a soldered chip.
But is anybody else looking at "the future" and thinking its gonna be a giant black box assraping corporate circle jerk? They are trying to force us onto platforms that aren't suitable for purpose like the tablets, simply because they can make a mint with lock in and appstores, and now trying to make everything a locked down mess hardware wise, so your only choice will be to throw away and buy more.
And where the fuck is antitrust in all this? Hello EU, they will be wiping out a half a dozen companies to capture the market for themselves, just as they did with IGP by slitting nvidia's throat, and I know we here in America lost control to the corps but you have generally frowned on this kind of shit, so WTF?
As for me this is all the more reason to continue buying AMD, as all my games play fine, I went from a single to a dual to a quad on my last board and on this one I can go up to the latest 8 cores if I want (although those $100 6 core Phenoms are nice enough for me) and most importantly I'm not having to throw the whole damned thing out if I need more speed down the road. if this kind of bullshit had been in place I'd be on my fifth board now instead of my second, and when you figure in how much higher the boards would be if you were stuck with whatever CPU they soldered in? NOT a smart buy. I have a feeling the big board companies like AsusRock and Gigabyte will be pushing AMD, not like they've got a choice as Intel would be doing to them what they did to Nvidia.
But I have no desire to get stuck on some locked down ARM wannabe playing Angry Birds, I want AAA gaming, I want to be able to transcode, I want to be able to build up my system as time goes on, and if this is true that just means Intel won't be coming near any of my computers, the loss of choice won't be worth the increased IPC.
but here goes...is Canonical financially solvent? If it is why did you burn so much good will that you had with the users by allowing the Amazon search which doesn't even have an adult filter that works so that kids can be exposed to inappropriate, in violation of Amazon's own rules which state you have to be 18+ to use their market?
And if Canonical currently isn't in the black, how much will it take to make it a cash positive company? did the Amazon deal bring in enough, or is there gonna have to be MORE ads and MORE revenue making apps baked into Ubuntu to make the company solid financially?
Watch me get modded down for daring not to ask the cutesy ass kissing questions like what are being modded up here, but when one has the head of a company on the horn, and I don't give a damned WHICH company it is, one ought to ask the hard questions and use the opportunity to get some real answers.
Don't have time to look them up as i gotta get to the shop, but all you have to do is go to YouTube and look under phrases like "Ron Paul voting wrong" or "Ron Paul NH numbers" and you'll find them quick enough, and as i said Alex Jones has the video of the RNC calling a voice vote and having the fricking RESULTS on the teleprompter BEFORE the vote had been cast...blatant much?
But I really don't know what you think some "international observers" are gonna do when the US gov don't even respect other country's airspace, they sure as fuck ain't gonna respect their opinions about anything. Hell look up "Ohio rigged 2004" on YouTube to see cops HAULING OFF anybody who dared point out the poor had the RIGHT to an absentee ballot in Ohio! Silly peasants, thinking they had rights.
Want some good AI? Play Far Cry 1 (Do NOT play Far Cry 2, its so retarded they had to come up with an in game excuse to why so many guys on your side is shooting at you), play Fear 1&2, I like the Crysis series although they don't come up to Far Cry 1 levels, I also like the Deus Ex series although again, not as good as Far Cry 1 and Fear AI.
To me good AI doesn't have to be brilliant, just make me work for it, like the way I'd have to look for any ways I could be snuck up on in Fear and place mines, or have an exit strategy like in Far Cry or Crysis.
This is why I will always look for games that have mods, because often a mod can make a bad game good and a good game great. take your Bioshock example, there is a mod called "Bioshock for real" or something like that that will make that game so damned hard you won't believe you are playing the same game. you get different amounts for killing the sisters (thus putting an actual moral choice in it) and you won't be getting much of nothing from the bad guys and hacking? fucking HARD and you won't get any great rewards for pulling it off, just slightly lower prices which with money so scarce you'll be damned grateful for.
But I agree, even though I looove the Bioshock series (yes I even loved the second one, Minerva's Den i thought was nearly as good as the first game) the game devs are obviously more about telling a story than beating the player. While I think this is fine i do prefer games where there is a hard level that is REAL hard, so if I'm not feeling challenged I can ramp up. For the games that don't though, give me mods. Frankly I haven't seen a game that mods can't make better, from the dozens of new systems in Freelancer to taping the flashlight to the gun in doom 3, mods can fix a LOT of problems.
That is why I like sandboxes like Just Cause II and Saints Row III, while they are open as hell and you can just ignore the missions if you want there is still a story with a beginning, middle and end. That explains why I also have never been able to get into MMOs, I like having something other than a hamster wheel as a goal. But thinking of it as a toy rather than a game? something I haven't thought of, but makes sense.
Except the critical 18-49 group don't fall into your measuring methods because they aren't sitting there watching your crap or answering your polls!
A perfect example is my boys, 18 and 20...do EITHER of them watch TV? Nope, its all computers and social networks, neither of them watched squat. The "47%" and "Ugly car" flubs they knew about because of Colbert and Stewart. Frankly they have a bigger audience than the pundits and when you give them easy cannon fodder like that? expect to be spanked.
But to reach those types you are gonna have to cut through the bullshit and not come off like a used car salesman, which Romney felt too much like a guy trying to sell you a dodgy Ford, whereas the smart thing Obama did was sending in Clinton, who is able to pull off easy going bubba ordinary like its a second skin.
Its because so few have had to deal with the truly batshit and frankly don't LIKE the thought that death can come for no damned reason from somebody you have never done a damned thing to that its easier for them to try to come up with "motives" that frankly often may only exist in the mind of the killer, hell if there ever was one.
Spending most of my life near the strip known as "the meth highway" and hanging out on the wrong side of the tracks i can tell you there ARE plenty of truly batshit crazy people out there, hell many of them manage to even hold jobs and live like normal people...until they snap like a twig. Down the street was an old home that had been in the family 5 generations, its gone now because the grandson killed everybody in the house and torched the place...why? Nobody knows, even he don't know, all he said at his trial is "somebody there must have made me mad or something". Hell he wasn't even on drugs at the time so he can't be written off as having a freak out, he just went total batshit one day.
So maybe she had a reason, maybe she didn't, hell maybe grandpa did it and the daughter covered it up, who the fuck knows, that is why she got not guilty. Watching the trial it was obvious there was reason to believe it could be EITHER the mom (didn't want the kid) or grandpa (molestation) and the cops simply couldn't ever pin down one way or another who did it beyond a reasonable doubt. But to try to pin complex motives to most of these cases simply won't work, because frankly there are a LOT of truly right on the edge of rubber room batshit crazy people out there and frankly if they go off? The only "motive' might be as simple as "I didn't like his shirt".
Yeah, good luck with suing the US government pal. hell they have video of it all over YouTube, it wasn't like they were subtle and everybody and their dog has a camera phone now so it isn't like you can do anything without getting filmed, but to get criminal charges filed you have to get an AG willing to prosecute, good luck with that.
You see since BOTH sides want to cash the checks, get their friends jobs, enjoy a cushy life after office, and enjoy all the perks of a corrupt system they won't bust the OTHER guy for it because THEY want to be able to do the same thing when they get their shot. It would be like having the mob overseeing the Yakuza, knowing full well ANY rules they impose on the Yakuza will be imposed upon them as well...how many rules do you think they'd impose under those conditions?
I hate to break this to ya, as its scary as hell, but look at Germany in 37/38 and you'll see where most likely the USA will end up. Just watch this video and look at the charts starting around 3.30 and you'll see the collapse is inevitable, it simply can't be stopped at this point. You have more than 400% of the country's GDP, as well as the retirement of tens of millions of workers, all tied up in this massive bubble that is the stock market. Just as the bubble burst in 29 so too will the bubble burst here, only with THAT much money tied into it it'll make 29 look like a computer glitch.
But if you are in the EU you probably shouldn't worry, most likely its South America that we'll treat like Germany treated Poland. I truly believe this is why neither side will say or do shit about immigration, because they WANT the peasants hating the people south of the border, so if the bubble ever bursts they can cook up a false flag and roll the tanks. Lots of resources south of the border, oil, gas, lumber, mines, lots of stuff that could be used to prop up a collapsed economy. I feel sorry for the people of south america but when you have a militaristic country armed to the teeth it simply won't "go softly into that good night" and as the crazy Austrian noted back then the way to get people off the internal problems is to manufacture an external threat.
Look, you are basically building straw men to knock down here, because if you have bothered to use one of those digital to analog adapters you know that analog TVs LOOK LIKE SHIT because they just can't get the colors and brightness levels right on the analog TVs. I should know as my mom had what was an expensive analog set, still looked like shit. Finally I just bought her a 40 inch 1080P and said "here, now let go of the old crap set" and she is happy as a clam. Hell they were selling 19-22 inchers online for $79-$99 so the odds are this guy, who just FYI didn't state a damned thing about having analog sets, has already moved away from analog TVs years ago, so arguing about them with ZERO evidence that the guy even has one is a straw man. hell there are plenty of dirt poor in my building and even THEY have LCD TVs now, pawn shops have the under 32 inches for a little of nothing.
And the simple fact is look on project greenlight, you have more games being chosen per day than you could possibly ever play, and nearly all the indies are old school and like old school gameplay which includes SSMP, but not only that but there are so many FTP MMOs on there now it isn't even funny. So you are talking about dozens if not hundreds of free games to play right off the bat, no worry about them getting some game with malware off of Steam, nearly every game that has come out in the past few years supports the X360 controller, and unlike the consoles it can game AND IM AND surf AND watch YouTube AND be a media tank AND do any other task a full fledged PC can do. When a PC can't game anymore there are plenty of other uses for it, bedroom PC or media tank or office box, when that console isn't supported anymore? into the closet it goes. i know because my youngest was into consoles and handhelds for the longest time and he has a fricking pile of them gathering dust, PSP, DS, Wii, Xbox 1, PS 1, Dreamcast, Gamecube, all of them gathering dust. Meanwhile the PC I gave him to game on 8 years ago is now an office box for a former neighbor, got enough for his old game PC to buy him more RAM for his new system.
So unless you can point out a section of TFA I missed where he imposed these limitations you are just coming up with hoops to jump that frankly in all likelihood don't even exist IRL. You might as well say "If his TV is B&W then the PC won't work!" yeah but if he is on B&W he shouldn't be buying consoles should he? By that same token if he is still using power sucking analog sets frankly replacing those would be a better use of his money than buying ANYTHING else as far as gaming, just the lowered electric bills would give him the money to get his HTPC or console later.
And how many games AC have YOU played that this sentence would fit? "Graphics looked good, gameplay sucked" because Lord knows i have played a fricking TON of games in the past few years that fit that description. It was one set piece to another set piece being drug by the nose with crappy play mechanics.
Here let me give a few examples...Bulletstorm, sounds like a winner right? you got the guys that did Painkiller, that was pure fun, hooked up with EA to do their own take on the whole modern shooter genre, it ought to be a hoot! Nope, the jokes fall flat, the weapons SUCK MASSIVELY, and by tying the UPGRADE SYSTEM to how over the top you make your kills you just turned fun into a fucking grind.
How about F.E.A.R. 3, or how they spelled F3AR, should have known off the bat when they do a douchey letter to numbers switch we were in trouble, but fuuuck! Fear 1 & 2 were fricking great! Bad guys smart, weapons satisfying, sure the horror didn't work but like Yahtzee said "The only way to have horror in an FPS is to tape a picture of Dracula to your iron sights" but it was still FUN with a capital F, so the third HAS to be good right? Nope, AI retarded, weapons are WORTHLESS, and I mean that, if you haven't played it there is not ONE truly good weapon in the whole fucking game, I mean you can only carry 36 fucking bullets for the pistol? WTF? My out of shape ass can carry more than 36 9mm rounds! Levels bland, and the whole thing took what was a great franchise and turned it into a bunch of co-op maps with bad weapons. Frankly it would not surprise me to find out like Mario 2 that this was some other game that someone just slapped the Fear name and characters in to make a quick buck.
So I have to agree with TFA, especially on shooters, sure they look great but where is the FUN? Where is the next funny shooter like No One Lives Forever, where I can set kitty bombs and giggle as a bad guy walks up and goes "ohh, its a kitten...meow BOOM!" or the next Far Cry or Fear where the AI uses squad tactics and makes me feel that sense of "fuck yeah! You didn't see THAT coming did you?" when you manage to set up an ambush? Where is the next Painkiller or Crysis that gives me some really bad ass weapons instead of the same shit they hand us in every game, so i feel like Arnie or Stallone starring in my own action flick?
Sure the VISUALS have gotten better, but everything else took a wrong turn and ended up in shit town. The weapons unsatisfying, AI Forest Gump stupid, levels boring, it all feels like a fricking chore.
See this is what I don't get, how does "measuring" them make you win? That is like saying if you can take a measurement of the fish in the water he'll jump right into the boat. Hell I'd argue that most if not all of the polling was completely worthless, sure it'll let you target more ads to the groups that are tuning out but you can target ads all day but if you do a serious fuckup like mittens and the "47%" or the "ugly car" flubs then give it the fuck up, all the focus groups in the world can't fix that.
So I REALLY don't get the circle jerking we've had the past couple of elections on focus groups, hell all they can do is help you target ads and a lot of the young people i know simply don't allow ads, they DVR the TV and they have adblock on the browser, so you can spend until hell freezes over they just ain't listening.
Geez, do I REALLY have to spell out how this works? if I buy BOTH guys then it really don't fucking MATTER which one you pick does it? And THAT is what you have. I personally think he is batshit but Alex Jones got on tape a perfect example of rigging the game when it looked like the outcome wasn't gonna be to their liking, he caught footage of the teleprompter on the voice vote for allowing the Ron Paul delegation to speak. BEFORE THE VOTE WAS CALLED it already had the "results" on the fucking teleprompter and they just read it, even though anybody with ears could hear the vote was too damned close to do by voice!
And there are a TON of examples of outright primary rigging by both parties, just check out YouTube. Hell they even have the guys in charge of counting the rep primary votes in NH going "Uhhh...that's not the numbers we counted, its not even close" but did anybody give a shit? hell look up how John Fricking Stewart even made a clip set showing how Ron paul became "He who shall not be named" even getting to the point that one of the reporters says "We are talking about Christie and Palin, who aren't even here OR running, and not a word about Paul who is actually doing good here" and the douchebag anchor gets a smirk and says "If you get any footage of Christie or Palin send it in, but you can keep the Paul footage" I mean its so fucking obvious they are rigging it by killing his media coverage they are even smirking about it ON CAMERA.
So I'm sorry but you'll get corporate whore #1 or #2, it doesn't matter in the end because BOTH are bought and paid for. fuck why do you think Obama kept so much of Bush's policies? Because his corporate masters told him too! If you TRULY believe voting does jack shit i don't know whether to admire how naive you are, or pity the cluelessness that it takes to buy that bullshit.
Because again we have ALREADY TRIED IT and what we got was polluted rivers, strikers executed by private armies, and those at the top living just like the barons of feudal times.
Now maybe you LIKE the idea of the air being as nasty as China, of having rivers catch fire like they did in the 70s, or having corporate masters own you through a company store, but none of that sounds very appealing to me. hell before i'd sign on for another round of kiss the corporate ass I'd go socialism, at least countries like Iceland seem to be making a civilized go of it.
the simple fact is without any government "intrusion" you quickly become Somalia, because again when there are little to no rules it devolves into "he who has the gold makes the rules" and I hate to break the news to ya, but if you think you have next to no chance of joining that little 1% club now? Just try it in the age of the barons. anybody that tried to compete with them were lucky if the barons just sent the Pinkertons to burn their house down, if not they ended up quite dead.
Those were just great weren't they? Its just a shame the shipping would kill you as there is a local shop selling tons of 80s PCs of all types on Craigslist for the gold in 'em, you name it they got it, Atari, Commodores, the whole lot. damned shame I don't have the room I'd pick up a couple for myself just for the nostalgia.
Well that just proves my point, don't it? they were gonna gimp the living fuck out of their machine right of the bat and even after devs pointed it out all they did was double it from pathetic to just lame.
Again crack open an Xbox 1 sometime if you want to see just how bad they are at design, if it wasn't for the fact that the P3 wasn't a space heater like the P4 frankly the thing would have cooked, it has one of the most piss poor designs when it comes to removing heat I've ever seen. Even those shitty phone book sized Compaq deskpros had better cooling, WTF MSFT? Can't you hire decent designers with all that money?
So I would frankly be amazed if valve doesn't just clean up with the Steambox, you got Nintendo with a weak system, Sony is just putting out a 2 year old PC because they don't have another billion to blow on R&D and MSFT will probably cheap out and gimp their system when it comes to RAM.
You want to know what I fucking hate about Linux? Two things, 1.-The FOSSie faction are so fucking batshit that you can rub their nose in fucking horrible design choices like rubbing a puppy's nose in shit and they'll just go "La la la, smells like roses, la la la" and 2.- FIX YOUR SHITTY DRIVER SUBSYSTEM ALREADY!
For the love of God how damned long is everybody gonna buy Torvalds bullshit about an ABI? watch how even basic fucking math can show he is full of shit...You have MAYBE 2000 guys IF THAT on the ENTIRE PLANET that are truly qualified to debug and write low level system drivers and are willing to deal with Torvalds and his cronies, how many drivers you got? Ohh 150,000 EASY. so if you shot Bolivian marching powder up the asses of those 2000 guys 24/7/365 then they STILL wouldn't have enough fucking hours to provide QA and QC for the insane amount of drivers that get shit on each fucking month...ARRRGH!
So until the fucking FOSSies admit that EVERY SINGLE OS ON THE PLANET besides theirs, BSD, OSX, Windows, fuck even OS/2, are NOT wrong on such an obvious God damned design choice then yeah, i'm gonna point out they are completely full of shit. I have offered time and time again for them to step up and take the hairyfeet challenge, NONE will accept...why? because they KNOW the drivers will shit the bed, that's why! And I'm giving them not one but TWO major advantages right off the bat, they are only having to show they can support HALF the lifecycle of Windows and I'm willing to take Vista, the shittiest release this side of WinME!
So while you seem like a sane guy I hope you can see why I'm happy to bitchslap a FOSSie whenever I can because they are fucking delusional! I mean you go to TMRepo and that is EVERY argument you will see here condensed to 20 or so lines of bullshit, the "it works for me" the "moving the goalposts" the "Linux has more drivers" every line of complete fucking horseshit spewed from the mouths of FOSSies for 20 damned years in just 20 TMs.
But what do they do when the truth is rubbed into their noses like shit? "La la la, you're a dirty poo poo head that must work for M$!, You just love M$"...riiight, which is why I've been calling for Ballmer to be fucking FIRED for half a decade, and why I said Win 8 is a cheap cellphone wannabe that other than HTPCs where you want big ass screen sucking buttons to make it easy to hit with a remote it is a giant pile of shit, unsuitable for purpose. yep i bet Steve Ballmer himself goes "You know he's right, I AM a big fat sweaty incompetent that only got this job by being Bill's little buddy! let's hire that guy right now!"...fucking retards, that's what they are, total fucking retards that have drank so much of the koolaid that Torvalds could change the code so that every damned desktop just played a GIF of him laying a big old turd on a plate and they'd be discussing "How Linus is pointing out what its like to deal with proprietary software!".
The PS3 cost so much because of BD not because of the RAM, and again we are talking about an 800 pound gorilla that is in bed tight with the GPU manufacturers thanks to DirectX....you telling me MSFT couldn't pick up a phone and get a good deal on GDDR3 when we are talking EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT to make RAM that will go into millions of units?
Sorry but I just don't buy that, more likely they were already dealing with heat issues before "Duh, I'm a CEO herpa derp!" Ballmer was trying to shove it out the door so rather than put some decent cooling in there and up the RAM they said "fuck it, that'll do" and shoved it out the door. Wouldn't be the first time, anybody that cracked open an XBox 1 knows there was some fucked up design issues, especially when it came to cooling.
Ohhh, did the poor wittle FOSSie get his panties in a wad this morning? And its kind of sad that FOSS attracts total fucking retards like yourself (Protip: Don't go full retard) or else you would have known I've been BASHING THE FUCK OUT OF WIN 8 YOU DIPSHIT which kind of makes it pretty hard to be a fanboi (like you so obviously are) or shill when I'M BASHING THE LATEST PRODUCT AS GARBAGE
And hey dipshit, you no able to read? how about You read the specs and compare because by the pathetic thing you call logic why then a G3 from 1997 is cutting edge, why it has a PPC chip too...right?
so go back to jerking over a Bash script FOSSie, nobody wants your shitty OS nor cares, BTW how is the marketshare? oh that is right..its been flatline for years. could it be the fact that even a Red hat dev says its a disaster or the fact that full of show stopping bugs that go back years? Nahh, that couldn't be it, why it has the blessing of the great and always classy RMS!
Hey did you hear a WOOOSH just a minute ago?
He didn't say a thing about the Wii, because Nintendo targets a different demographic than the one MSFT is after, so they really don't care about the Wii as you don't see the hardcore players getting down to some Animal Crossing, they are all playing shooters, which is MSFT and Sony.
And in case you haven't heard Sony has been bleeding money for several quarters now, we are talking serious losses, so all it would take is for MSFT to release a monster to crush Sony like a bug. It has already been reported that Sony is going with a COTS AMD APU because they simply don't have the money to build another monster (last figures were a billion dollars for the PS3 R&D) so not only does MSFT know what the competition is doing, they also know that one more good smack would be all it would take, they could let Nintendo take the casuals while they take the hardcore and leave Sony out in the cold.
but the reason that they won't pull the trigger on Sony isn't IMHO worries about anti-trust, its the fact that the board is probably shitting puppies right now over the fact that their billion dollar marketing campaign for Win "Cellphone" 8 has been a giant bust and its looking to be another Vista, so sinking another couple of billion so soon after getting a body blow like that probably ain't real high on the board's priorities. More likely they'll bump up the speed and RAM and add a hotter GPU and it'll be more of a "360+" than a true next gen, because they have bigger fish to fry, like how to get a foothold in mobile and what to do about nobody buying their latest OS.
Why did he get modded down when that is pretty much it in a nutshell? Nintendo bought a chip that is barely more powerful than the one they have in the Wii and expect devs to deal with it by using the more powerful GPU instead. Problem is with more and more games having tons of physics and ragdolls and the like there is only so much a powerful GPU will cover for before you end up gimped by the CPU.
Hell this is pretty much the same strategy AMD has been using for a couple of generations now and they aren't doing so hot either, are they? It all comes down to a balancing act and Nintendo just went too far when it came to how weak a CPU they could get away with, simple as that. My guess is because they are gonna be targeting casual gamers they figure its enough to run Mario and Animal Crossing and so they figure its "good enough". Lets be honest folks, Nintindo hasn't gone for the hardcore players for a couple of generations now, so it should be of no surprise that their new system just can't run the hardcore shooters that are the hallmark of the hardcore gamers.