Bah! Spoiled users on the coasts, we had to use our fists! No damned coast to get any herring out of for us, no! We'd just punch the letter by taking different bits of rock to shape the letters and gluing them to our fists with spit! of course this also helped the youngsters to be patient because one badly timed "Is it done yet?" and you were liable to have an E permanently embedded in your forehead!
What you gonna do with the scum? lets cut the bullshit and lay it right out in the open, nobody wants to rides buses in the USA because they are filled with lowlife, crack heads, bums, whores, crazy homeless, real fucking loser. How you gonna fix that huh? its not like the old days when people were civil to each other ya know, its welcome to the fucking jungle and as someone on another forum pointed out when you have nothing you got nothing to lose and no reason to give a fuck. Hell a couple of weeks back they had one crazy bitch BITE another passenger on a bus, and a couple of months back they had one crazy go get his AK and open up on a bus (thank God it was nearly empty) because someone on that bus "dissed his bitch".
Like it or not there is a GOOD REASON why nobody rides buses here, its because they are all filled with filth. you gonna be willing to have your taxes go up by 40% to pay for both the new bus system AND the full time security units you will have to have on each bus? In my area they have closed the CAT line for everything but the "welcome to the jungle" area because frankly that';s the only ones that will ride on it. Its filthy, it stinks, and the people on it would give you a beat down if you looked at them funny. Hell i'd rather hitch a ride on a prison transfer bus personally, at least there I'd have guards.
Must be nice, move into the cities into the USA and you better either have Warren Buffet money or an AK47 and a bullet proof vest as we only have two areas in our cities for the most part, the "super rich" areas and the "welcome to the jungle, we got fun and game" areas. its not like people live in the burbs because they LIKE having 40 minute commutes ya know, they do so because they'd actually like to survive to see their next paycheck. And I'd love to see you bicycle around here, its either 40 miles to work or again you are gonna be biking right through crips and folks turf, bet you wouldn't make the second stoplight. hell do you EU folks even HAVE armed gangs? in most of the major cities the gangs outnumber the cops by 3 to 1, hell I live in a southern rural state and the cops won't go into their turf after dark and won't go in the daylight unless they are en masse, they are simply too outnumbered and the folks gang has BPVs and AKs.
BTW can we execute the treasury secretary? That would be nice, I'll be happy to be on the squad. you see what he is using is the classic "Let them eat cake" excuse which we saw worked REAL well for the French. What he is ignoring is there IS NO MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM for most of the rural states including the entire south and good luck getting the 3 trillion dollars or so to pay for such a system with over 90% of the right wing signing Grover Norquist's "No new taxes on teh rich EVAR!" pledge. Norquist has already made it clear that ANYBODY who dares break the pledge will get a "read my lips" done to them on their next election cycle, even if it causes a democrat to win, he's THAT greedy folks.
So lets see the bullshit, shall we? 1.-"Green" vehicles..see Solyndra, also see the completely dead economy. The older vehicles that use more gas are owned by guess who? The poor who use them to go to their crappy dead end jobs that they are stuck in thanks to all the oursourcing gutting the factories. Can't give 'em tax breaks to buy these green cars, they don't make enough to pay taxes and they can't afford the payments anyway. So you either give them the cars (trillions) or you watch as they all go on unemployment because in the rural states long drives to work are common and at $5 a gallon they will lose money going to work, they may be poor but most aren't THAT stupid. hell my dad has owned a rather large and successful business for the past 40 years but has already said if gas hits $5.50 he'll close the doors and fire the workers and sell off the assets, that's another 40 workers for the unemployment line, why? Because the large heavy vehicles they have to carry tools and supplies in will cost them more than they can charge with a dead housing market so he'll make more selling off the assets, its just business folks.
Bullshit 2. Mass Transit...As noted simply doesn't exist outside the major metro areas, might as well tell them they are gonna fly on the unicorns to work because in a dead economy the states certainly don't have billions a piece to build huge mass transit systems and the feds certainly won't raise a single cent in taxes on "job creators".
So as much as I loathe the man I have to agree with Glenn Beck on this one, its long past time we "Became Switzerland" and stayed the fuck out of everyone's business. Stop sending Israel 8 million a DAY in aid when we can't even get out of the red and tell AIPAC to go fuck themselves and throw them out of the country. if Israel wants to start shit let them do it alone, we have been their attack dogs for damned near 60 years now, enough is enough. if you God is so pathetic he can't park his fluffy cloud if there isn't a Jew in Zion and he has NO way to protect them by himself? you God is a weakling and isn't worth the time of day. time to stop basing our middle east policies on what some 1800 year dead goatherder wrote on a sheep's ass about what some 2000+ year dead guy would need to park his fluffy cloud. Iran wouldn't last 10 minutes in an exchange, not with Israel having over 400 nukes and most likely an equal number of chemical weapons. Amajerk likes to run his mouth off but he isn't THAT fucking stupid, instead he'll wave the flag and wave his wiener because it gets him the popular vote, no different than any other politician in that regard.
stay the fuck out of it Obama, unless you want to be a one termer.
So your answer is excuse 421, aka Linux Runs Supercomputers TM. How sad that the same crazy horseshit has come out of FOSSies so damned many times that i can pop up a TM for EVERY excuse? Now why I can do that? Because you keep running back to the same horseshit, kinda like religion in that way, sad really. Meanwhile my oldest is heading off on his first spring break, paid by me, my GF just got a brand new quad, the youngest got a new quad and if scanning around for his first set of wheels, if this is goofing off then guess what? Sucks to be you. I do what i want when I want and answer to nobody but me, ha ha ha!
Actually I gave up a nearly $100 an hour job for this one because i got tired of dealing with "multi platform" corporate crapfests where some PHB would see some tits of a salesgal and the next thing we knew we'd have to deal with thousands in shitty hardware or software they'd bought. Oh and really sorry to burst your bubble but...guess what? i'm actually typing on one of those systems now. the customer traded it in for a new triple core and it was such a low power unit I decided to keep it as a nettop. Its a circa 2004 Sempron, 1.5Gb of DDR, 200Gb SATA, and the same install of XP, I just cloned the old 80Gb onto the bigger drive..that's it.
You see THAT is what i find so funny, you'll jump through flaming hoops for your "free" OS but think even the most trivial of common sense, like don't open attachments or don't go to dodgy porn sites, must be too hard. hate to again burst your bubble (no I'm not) but frankly there are more than a dozen free AVs out there and pair ANY of those with any browser other than IE and the machine pretty much takes care of itself. it updates itself, defrags itself, protects itself...tell me, what do you think the odds of you getting even a 5 year old Linux up to current without a single forum hunt or CLI crapfest is? I'd say 0.0%. Hell i can install ANY version of Windows from 2K-Win 7 with nothing but a single disc and a shared folder, that's it. you see THIS is why I can charge so cheap because I get paid by the machine more often than by the hour and i can have 3 or 4 machines being installed and it requires ZERO effort, just pop in the disc, point at the shared folder on first boot, go have a sammich. Hell with Win 7 I even make money while just goofing off as any of my customers can just pop up a "Help me!" on my chat client and i can take over and install their software, walk them through hooking up that new printer, it takes minutes and its $35 a pop and they THANK ME for it.
In the end though the simple fact is the numbers don't lie and the BS you're pushing has been pushed so damned many times they actually have a website dedicated To Linux bullshit and excuses. In fact i can just take the top 20 from that site and cover every excuse and BS about FOSS that has been ever used on this site, sad really.
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised not too long ago? takea lookand see. Maybe they just had bad configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a flukeby any means. Oh and as for that much vaunted linux security, which you seem to think Windows can't possibly compare with? Get ready, but you'reOS isn'tdoing so hot. In fact last time i checked Securina Linux had more critical rated vulnerabilities open than Win 2K3 or Win 2K8.
Riiight, because they listened to us so well on the war with Iraq, free speeches zones, waterboarding and rendition rides, doing something about the border leaking like a sieve...oh wait, they completely ignored us. Hell the people in several states voted to legalize pot as well as gave the POTUS a petition and he gave in return the most flowery "LOL Goatse bitches!" speech i'd ever heard, frankly i'd have had more respect if he'd have just said "go fuck yourselves".
In the end with everything from Halliburton and the MIC to Monsanto the gov has made it clear they don't give a shit what you think, that is why ultimately the choice should be with the individual. Power corrupts and with the revolving door between the halls of power and the halls of industry frankly they don't care if you vote them out, as long as they do what their masters say they get a cushy job afterwards, oh and free healthcare and benefits for life to boot. must be nice.
As long as the doctor explains the risks and possible side effects then yes stay the hell out! what we really need is an iron clad "Stupid fucking you" contract that ambulance chasers can't just bypass. a good example of that would be the wonder drug for psoriatic arthritis in the 80s Tegison. anyone that took it had to not only get a lecture about not having kids and agree to not have any kids or even have unprotected sex for a period of 10 years they also had a shitload of forms AND a film you had to watch and sign a contract saying you had watched it and understood, so what happened? A couple of lawsuit lotto bitches took the drug and immediately went out and had unprotected sex and got pregnant and of course when the kids were born horribly deformed an ambulance chaser sued the company for a shitload of money. in the end this drug that was a miracle for those with severe PA was taken off the market thanks to a couple of lawsuit lotto bitches.
So yes as long as the doc explains exactly what kinds of risk you are looking at then neither the feds nor the lawyers should be able to say shit.
Bah, the antimatter got split up among the bazillion alternate universes along with a smartass kid, an old professor, and an R&B man...oh and some chick, because if its one thing the multiverse don't like its a sausage fest.
Does handbrake support DivX, especially DivX 5? Both my mom's DVD and my dad's media tank seem to play DivX 5 the best and with the way mom scratches discs and dad loses them they have both learned tis better to hand them to me and just have me convert for them. That way i can keep the discs all safe and neatly organized in the closet and when mom scratches the burnt DVD (which she will) I can just whip out the backup DivX file and reburn it to a DVD.
This is why all my customers have stuck with DVD no matter how big a set they have, once you have family you get really fucking tired of buying the same damned disc multiple times so a cheap DivX DVD player or media tank like the Nbox is a Godsend. As soon as the HDDs drop again I'll just buy mom an Nbox and 1Tb HDD and then I won't have to keep reburning the damned things but even then DivX 5 still for the moment seems to be the universal format, it plays anywhere on anything.
Let me get this straight, you are denying what every single study of the last twenty years has shown, that people with above 140 IQ have less than 2 kids while those less than 100 have on average 4? Hell can you not even use your eyes, haven't you noticed we have gone from shows like Cosmos to having a nation that knows more about who Snooki and the Kardashians are banging than they know about their own elected officials? If you don't realize Idiocracy is the future you obviously haven't turned on any of the top 20 reality shows, they are all either "Oww my balls!" or "Hands off my man bitch!".
Considering this is coming from someone who actually BRAGS in his sig that he follows a pill popping elitist turd like Rush? I'd say that's high praise indeed. Oh and just FYI but my grandfather was a card carrying socialist, thanks. I think a social democracy would frankly be better than the corporate fascism we seem to be growing now, where the top 1% can do any damned thing they want and get paid the money of the poor for doing it. See GE getting billions in tax rebates to send their last factory to India, see Cheney and Halliburton, frankly BOTH dems and reps are total whores now for the corps. Honestly the socialists couldn't do any worse.
Sadly F&F was nothing under Bush, and Solyndra was just the tip of a VERY stinky iceberg, one of the Kennedy kids got millions in tax free handouts for a "green' company that had never made a single dime. I'd google it for you but I'm just about to head out the door "Solyndra tip of iceberg" in any search engine will find the info for you. Summary 19 out of the 20 companies that got huge handouts were significant donors to the elect Obama fund. I'm a democrat and hated Bush but Obama is trying his damnedest to be worse than Bush in EVERY single way, worse on human rights, worse on jack booted crap, worse on bribery, hell i can't think of a single thing the man did better and that's just fricking sad. if you want to see what changed read this. Frankly I'm voting green rather than waste my vote on such a lousy POTUS. don't worry he'll still win simply nobody is gonna vote for mittens.
Wow, you really CAN'T escape that perception bubble can you? Let me spell it out real sloooowwww...UNSUPPORTED ABANDONED OS, now tell me "smart guy" how are you gonna make money when you are gonna have to SPEND MILLIONS making your own fork? Answer? you're not so Asus did the smart thing and got rid of the UNSUPPORTED ABANDONED OS. and frankly I don't give a shit what the community does, i was asked to write an article pointing out what we retailers would need to sell Linux, that's what i did. I purposely went for the most simple and most trivial of things because with it being all volunteers i know the busted shitters as i call them, the broken driver model, the horrible upgrade system, those are frankly NEVER getting fixed. some of it was the most blatantly obvious, like "There should be a website where you can buy hardware that WILL work with your distro, instead of playing hardware roulette" and even that is frankly beyond the skills of the community apparently.
But you go right ahead thinking its big bad Bill and the ghost of Jobs kicking the dogshit out of you, when the simple fact is people would rather STEAL the other guy's products that take yours FOR FREE. And NO retailer will sell your product at B&M, none. Walmart, Staples, best buy, all have tried, all quit, why? because your crappy driver model and busted support system made their support costs for those units MORE than simply paying the cost of a Windows CAL. How many computers have YOU sold at retail? Could that number be....zero perhaps? I've sold computers since before there even was a Windows and i can tell you your OS is simply unsuitable for purpose, not usable at all for consumers nor SMB. The ONLY places it can work is those that have full time IT staff to deal with the crap, otherwise it falls down and goes BOOM! Waaay too damned often. I've said it before and i'll say it again, Linux IS Windows 98, its a CLI OS with a tacked on GUI that's a second class citizen in EVERY way, its drivers are flaky, updates and upgrades break more than they fix, and you have to spend more time fiddling with it than actually using the damned machine for the work you bought it for!
I have XP machines that have been out in the field 8 years now, with ZERO driver failures, that's two service packs, around 3000 patches and ZERO driver failures. Can you HONESTLY point to a distro from 5 years ago you can upgrade to current and not have it puke on its own drivers? Don't say LTS because i've tried it, both LTS to LTS and LTS to regular and it puked. XP is supported until 2014, Win 7 until 2020. That's 11 years with NO INSTALLS, no upgrades, no hassles. Show me a single distro that even costs the same as Windows where i can get those kinds of numbers, you can't. Face it you simply can't compete as Linux is free if your time is worthless. My time is $35 an hour which means 2.5 hours and I'd be better off buying a copy of Windows 7 HP and putting it on the machine. Now THAT is the reality that retailers face with your OS, no secret deals, no money trucks, simply the fact that your support costs make your OS useless for the masses.
AM3+ is a dead end anyway as AMD has announced they get ONE, count 'em ONE new chip and that's it. You pay 40%+ more for socket AM3+ and there is exactly TWO chips for the thing, the current Liano and the one more BD based chip they are gonna release. And have you seen the benches? AM3+ sucks serious ass dude! My $109 Thuban frankly stomps all the new AMDs except for the highest chip and its within $30 of Sandy, that's just nuts. oh and they are lying their asses off, the new supposed "quad" Bulldozers are nothing but DUAL CORES with hyperthreading, yet they are charging higher than an AM3 Deneb quad? yeah right AMD, you're full of crap! trust me, grab one of the 95w Thuban X6 chips while you can, they are transcoding monsters and if you want they OC like mad.
Oh and for the anon cowards that say its impossible to get below room temp? its called heatpipes and dual 120mm fans on the heatsink. look up the hyper N520, she's a cooling monster and while quiet as quiet can be those 120mm move some serious air so dropping below room temp is not only possible, its quite easy. i'm not even using the phase dropping energy saver features of my new Asrock and I'm sitting at 70 degrees F and the room is 72f. If I were going passive cooling you would be correct but with 2 120mm fans pushing and pulling air over those heatpipes (The cooler is only $33 on Amazon BTW, great deal and works on ALL Intel and AMD boards) it drops the living hell out of the temps, especially with arctic silver.
Anybody know how good the BD rippers are? What has kept me away is it seems like it was 'Works one week, doesn't the next" and since i do much of my video watching on my netbook when i'm stuck somewhere the last thing I'd want is to be stuck with something I have to carry around discs for or have an internet connection so some crappy DRM can phone home. The drives themselves are only $60 but its not worth it if I have to constantly hoop jump just for the privilege of giving them my money.
I don't think its astroturfing as much as raging fanbois. there are several here that have more than 40 accounts so they can modbomb on "their" subjects, hell I even had one follow me around the web for half a year just so he could post 'Die you fat fucker die" after every single thing i posted anywhere, all because i dared to counter his total bullshit on Linux with actual citations showing the truth was the opposite. I knew guys that got royally fucked on both Intel by refusing to touch Athlon over Pentium netburst and again when they refused to touch ATI even though Nvidia was in the middle of bumpgate. Once someone is a raging fanboi you can give it up, you can place a hundred citations showing your facts are accurate and they WILL find a way to modbomb.
As for actual power usage when my Thuban X6 is sitting at 70f idle and I'm not even using the power saving features of my board I'd say yeah, their actual power numbers are bullshit. But you know the reviews are bullshit when they don't even bother to check whether the benchmark is compiled with the Intel Cripple compiler. you can take ANY benchmark that has been compiled with the ICC and take a Via CPU (the only chip that allows you to change CPUID on the fly) and watch as magically that very same chip scores 40% higher by simply changing its CPUID. I had to point this out to one reviewer who had written "I don't understand why all these tests show the Intel Atom dual beating the E350 by a decent margin but my real world tests don't show those results at all, quite the opposite".
While I don't have a killawatt to measure one thing I do know is that on every C2D and C2Q I've ever built the fans really kicked up and that Heat Sink would get seriously hot but the only AMD I ever saw that behavior with was the 125w Phenom I chips. The 95w and 65w Phenom I and II chips frankly barely get warm unless you slam them, even if you use the crappy cooler. Add a Hyper 212 or my fav hyper n520 and that chip will barely reach 120F after 4 hours of prime95. Personally i'd love to see a test with both chips running prime95 and killawatt because i think there be something fishy friend.
What's the max RAM on those? Because for me the selling point of the EEE was being able to hold 8Gb. With that much RAM I can have all my apps preloaded into RAM and as you've noted it sleeps DAMNED nicely. I also love how nice the DXVA support is, using the AMD system monitor I find I'm barely using 15% of the CPU when watching 720p vids thanks to GPU acceleration. Lucky for me though startup speed is not a factor so i just hibernate, if i need to use it right this second i can hit the Expressgate and have Chrome in under 6 seconds, which is nice.
Either way i think we can both agree that the ATI buyout was a smart idea, frankly i can't stand the Atom netbooks as the GPU is so gimped and the in order CPU makes everything feel like its dragging. Comparing a Atom dual netbook a customer had with my E350 was like a bad joke, no matter what i ran it was fast and smooth while his was "hurry up and wait" constantly. BTW if you like Brazos you'll love Brazos II. While i'll probably set it out a the E350 does all i need to do the rumor is the next gen will not only add dual channel memory but will make the switch from VLIW to Vector for the GPU which means the GPU will behave more like a hyper floating point when not being used for graphics and with OpenCL it should be able to accelerate pretty much anything. Personally i hope they come out with a quad version, can you imagine a sub 20w quad with kick ass graphics AND fast enough to run just about anything? I can see why AMD is spending more on the Bobcat than they are the desktop, mobile does seem to be where the majority of the market is heading.
He is talking about social darwinism, which is an actual school of thought. you might want to read the short story "The march of the morons' to see what would happen if you baby proof the world, or perhaps idiocracy. in either case while one doesn't want to see kids die one can't escape the simple fact that while the stupid have 4 or 5 kids the smart have one if they have any.
As for TFA all this will do is jack up the price, you MAY save 2 or even 5% if you are lucky, but most of the time sadly its people not paying attention to what they are doing that causes accidents. I don't know how many times I've seen people with their head down fooling with the stereo, messing with the AC, screwing with their makeup, anything but actually watching what they are doing with that 2000 POUND VEHICLE. in this case better driver education would probably save more lives than a camera they'll probably glance at for half a second and then promptly ignore.
I don't know about the parent but I'd suggest if you want to OC an AMD try the Asrock boards. I have the A770DE+ as I had 8Gb of DDR 2 I wanted to reuse for this build and frankly the Asrock OCing tools are the easiest to use i've ever seen in 20 years of building! paired with a 1035T 6 core i ended up at nearly 3.6GHz before I said "WTF am I doing? What do I need all this extra speed for?" and stopped but frankly if I'd boosted the volts I could have easily hit 4GHz. The Asrock OC Tuner is frankly butt simple, you can save different BIOS profiles and switch on boot to try different OCs and during operation just fire up the Asrock OC Tuner and you can tweak both the OC and the Turbocore to your hearts content. To top off the sweetness if you want to save power it also has a tuner that will turn off phases when in idle thus saving power.
Give the Asrock boards a try, they are really sweet, and if you sign up for the emails tiger has been selling the 95w Thubans for $109 shipped. put those together with a HyperN520 cooler and you have an OC monster friend, enjoy!
How is THAT flamebait? He very politely pointed out that for his needs his AMD quad is "powerful enough" while saving him a LOT of money, what is inaccurate there? I paid $109 for a Thuban 1035T, this baby does a DVD to AVI conversion in less than 15 minutes flat and cost me less than a Pentium Dual would cost, I'd say that's pretty damned powerful for the money. Powerful? Check. Quiet? Can't tell the machine is on with a hyper N520 cooler so check. Cheap? $109 shipped for a 6 core? BIG check there.
They really need to fix the mod system so that those that are making dozens of accounts can't modbomb as I've noticed this quite a lot lately, especially in chips, anything with Google, Apple, or FOSS. Anyone who checks out the posts on any of the above will find example after example of legitimate views buried by modbombs.
Acer os Asus? i got the EEE myself, wonderful little unit, maxed it out with 8Gb of RAM for just $33 and that much RAM with superfetch means the only time the SSD is gonna win is wake and sleep. While the SSDs are nice, don't get me wrong, I have too many media files and the hot/crazy scale with those frankly spooks me as I use my EEE for service calls and the last thing I need is to flip up the lid and have the SSD crap out.But as you've seen the Brazos platform is quite sweet, hell mine feels more like a CULV than a netbook and with an SSD I bet yours IS a CULV as far as performance goes, I just hope the SSD don't crap out when you need it.
They have already announced that AM3+ gets ONE, count 'em, one more chip, and that Piledriver is FM2 and NOT FM1. Now sure you CAN jam one of the newer chips into the older sockets but....uhhhh....guess what? You LOSE FEATURES. Its like jamming an AM3 into an AM2 socket, goodbye DDR 3, you've just hamstringed your new chip. And the buzz is FM2 is NOT backwards compatible with FM1 due to the new GPU component and AM3+ as I said is getting ONE more chip and then its end of the line. If you look on Tiger or newegg you are paying 40%+ for an AM3+ board over an AM3 and the ONLY advantage you get for the AM3+ board is TWO CHIPS? That's it? Fuck that noise.
And I'm sorry but the serious WTF was killing AM3 and Stars arch. Check any benchmark you like, you have to buy the FX8150 to compete with that $109 Thuban X6, that's fucking sad man. You have to buy a $289 chip, that BTW is just $15 difference between it and Sandy bridge which stomps the crap out of it BTW, just to beat a chip released two years ago.
So I'm sorry AMD but if you don't come out with something better priced than bullshoveler and pilecrapper my shop is gonna have NO choice but to go Intel. If I'm gonna have to play socket roulette anyway I might as well get a chip that is more than double the speed, especially when it is less than $20 between it and a lousy AMD quad which BTW just FYI that is EXACTLY what their supposed 8 core CPU is, its just a quad with hardware assisted hyperthreading. For proof look up any of the benchmarks where they turn off every other chip (the hyperthreading) and watch the IPC go UP, by as much as 30%. Their hyperthreading is seriously gimped.
Actually I'd say buying ATI was one of the smartest things they ever did. one can argue if they had waited until the market tanked they could have gotten it cheaper but hindsight and all that. But have you tried bobcat? Less than 18w for a dual core with an HD6310 GPU and often runs at less than 12w. hell AMD had to slow down their desktop production simply because they didn't have enough capacity to meet demand for the Brazos platform. If that's failure I'll take two please. Go to someplace like Tiger and see how many units you have with the E350, we are talking netbooks and laptops, HTPCs and all in ones, the OEMs are cranking out new designs to use those chips as fast as they can. I walked into my local Wally World the other day and less than 4 units were Intel, the rest? All AMD Fusion. And don't forget this is still running on VLIW GPUs, the next revs will replace them for vector units which should behave like a hyper powerful FP when not needed for graphics.
so I'd say while AMD has made some SERIOUS mistakes, killing the AM3 line and Stars arch before getting the bugs fixed (or better yet replacing for the consumer chip) the BD/PD design, trying to push a server chip like BD/PD as a desktop chip, frankly the APUs created thanks to the merger have been one of the few smart moves they've had. With Brazos they have a unit that stomps Intel+ION while often costing less than intel alone and thanks to intel shooting themselves in the face by killing the Nvidia chipsets there won't be any new ION designs. With Brazos you have a unit that sips power, is quiet, low enough heat it can be passively cooled, while still able to do 1080p over HDMI. If you haven't tried one you really should, its a sweet chip.
May I make a suggestion? Tiger has been selling their remaining stocks of 95w Thubans (in case you haven't heard in a serious "WTF are they thinking?" move AMD has killed AM3 for two sockets that have less than a year of life in them, FM1 and AM3+) for around $100. Sign up for their emails, that is where they have been offering it as of late. i got one and with the money i saved upgraded my ECS board to a nicer Asrock and i must say i couldn't be happier, the 1035T is not only around 40% faster than my 925 Deneb but whereas the Deneb would max out at around 139f doing transcodes with the hyper N520 cooler i paired the thuban with i'm getting a MAX of 114F and that's after 7 and a half hours of slamming the CPU with Virtualdub. At idle this baby is literally below room temp, no shit looking at Coretemp my chip is at 67f and the room is 72f. Frankly I've never been happier with a chip upgrade in my life and its just a damned shame AMD has killed AM3 but their loss is your gain if you jump on it and snatch one while they're cheap. I mean 6 cores for $109? How can you beat that? Paired with 8gb of RAM and a CF enabled board i figure this baby will last me until 2020 easy, what a sweet chip.
But for everyone that wants to save some money and have a nice chip snatch one of the AM3s NOW before the stock runs out because when they are gone, that's it. I went ahead and built my GF a new Athlon X3 box and gave the Deneb to my youngest and as soon as this next batch of laptops gets sold I'll be building the oldest an X3 or X4 before supplies run out. The really nice Am3 boards have never been cheaper and paired with 4-8Gb of DDR 3 and a Hyper212 or hyper N520 they make pretty badass desktops, plenty of OCing headroom if you desire and easy to unlock so that X3 can easily be the cheapest quad you'll ever buy. But for me that X6 so cheap? hell how could you not love getting 6 cores for $109 shipped? That's a no brainer.
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Bah! Spoiled users on the coasts, we had to use our fists! No damned coast to get any herring out of for us, no! We'd just punch the letter by taking different bits of rock to shape the letters and gluing them to our fists with spit! of course this also helped the youngsters to be patient because one badly timed "Is it done yet?" and you were liable to have an E permanently embedded in your forehead!
What you gonna do with the scum? lets cut the bullshit and lay it right out in the open, nobody wants to rides buses in the USA because they are filled with lowlife, crack heads, bums, whores, crazy homeless, real fucking loser. How you gonna fix that huh? its not like the old days when people were civil to each other ya know, its welcome to the fucking jungle and as someone on another forum pointed out when you have nothing you got nothing to lose and no reason to give a fuck. Hell a couple of weeks back they had one crazy bitch BITE another passenger on a bus, and a couple of months back they had one crazy go get his AK and open up on a bus (thank God it was nearly empty) because someone on that bus "dissed his bitch".
Like it or not there is a GOOD REASON why nobody rides buses here, its because they are all filled with filth. you gonna be willing to have your taxes go up by 40% to pay for both the new bus system AND the full time security units you will have to have on each bus? In my area they have closed the CAT line for everything but the "welcome to the jungle" area because frankly that';s the only ones that will ride on it. Its filthy, it stinks, and the people on it would give you a beat down if you looked at them funny. Hell i'd rather hitch a ride on a prison transfer bus personally, at least there I'd have guards.
Must be nice, move into the cities into the USA and you better either have Warren Buffet money or an AK47 and a bullet proof vest as we only have two areas in our cities for the most part, the "super rich" areas and the "welcome to the jungle, we got fun and game" areas. its not like people live in the burbs because they LIKE having 40 minute commutes ya know, they do so because they'd actually like to survive to see their next paycheck. And I'd love to see you bicycle around here, its either 40 miles to work or again you are gonna be biking right through crips and folks turf, bet you wouldn't make the second stoplight. hell do you EU folks even HAVE armed gangs? in most of the major cities the gangs outnumber the cops by 3 to 1, hell I live in a southern rural state and the cops won't go into their turf after dark and won't go in the daylight unless they are en masse, they are simply too outnumbered and the folks gang has BPVs and AKs.
BTW can we execute the treasury secretary? That would be nice, I'll be happy to be on the squad. you see what he is using is the classic "Let them eat cake" excuse which we saw worked REAL well for the French. What he is ignoring is there IS NO MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM for most of the rural states including the entire south and good luck getting the 3 trillion dollars or so to pay for such a system with over 90% of the right wing signing Grover Norquist's "No new taxes on teh rich EVAR!" pledge. Norquist has already made it clear that ANYBODY who dares break the pledge will get a "read my lips" done to them on their next election cycle, even if it causes a democrat to win, he's THAT greedy folks.
So lets see the bullshit, shall we? 1.-"Green" vehicles..see Solyndra, also see the completely dead economy. The older vehicles that use more gas are owned by guess who? The poor who use them to go to their crappy dead end jobs that they are stuck in thanks to all the oursourcing gutting the factories. Can't give 'em tax breaks to buy these green cars, they don't make enough to pay taxes and they can't afford the payments anyway. So you either give them the cars (trillions) or you watch as they all go on unemployment because in the rural states long drives to work are common and at $5 a gallon they will lose money going to work, they may be poor but most aren't THAT stupid. hell my dad has owned a rather large and successful business for the past 40 years but has already said if gas hits $5.50 he'll close the doors and fire the workers and sell off the assets, that's another 40 workers for the unemployment line, why? Because the large heavy vehicles they have to carry tools and supplies in will cost them more than they can charge with a dead housing market so he'll make more selling off the assets, its just business folks.
Bullshit 2. Mass Transit...As noted simply doesn't exist outside the major metro areas, might as well tell them they are gonna fly on the unicorns to work because in a dead economy the states certainly don't have billions a piece to build huge mass transit systems and the feds certainly won't raise a single cent in taxes on "job creators".
So as much as I loathe the man I have to agree with Glenn Beck on this one, its long past time we "Became Switzerland" and stayed the fuck out of everyone's business. Stop sending Israel 8 million a DAY in aid when we can't even get out of the red and tell AIPAC to go fuck themselves and throw them out of the country. if Israel wants to start shit let them do it alone, we have been their attack dogs for damned near 60 years now, enough is enough. if you God is so pathetic he can't park his fluffy cloud if there isn't a Jew in Zion and he has NO way to protect them by himself? you God is a weakling and isn't worth the time of day. time to stop basing our middle east policies on what some 1800 year dead goatherder wrote on a sheep's ass about what some 2000+ year dead guy would need to park his fluffy cloud. Iran wouldn't last 10 minutes in an exchange, not with Israel having over 400 nukes and most likely an equal number of chemical weapons. Amajerk likes to run his mouth off but he isn't THAT fucking stupid, instead he'll wave the flag and wave his wiener because it gets him the popular vote, no different than any other politician in that regard.
stay the fuck out of it Obama, unless you want to be a one termer.
So your answer is excuse 421, aka Linux Runs Supercomputers TM. How sad that the same crazy horseshit has come out of FOSSies so damned many times that i can pop up a TM for EVERY excuse? Now why I can do that? Because you keep running back to the same horseshit, kinda like religion in that way, sad really. Meanwhile my oldest is heading off on his first spring break, paid by me, my GF just got a brand new quad, the youngest got a new quad and if scanning around for his first set of wheels, if this is goofing off then guess what? Sucks to be you. I do what i want when I want and answer to nobody but me, ha ha ha!
Actually I gave up a nearly $100 an hour job for this one because i got tired of dealing with "multi platform" corporate crapfests where some PHB would see some tits of a salesgal and the next thing we knew we'd have to deal with thousands in shitty hardware or software they'd bought. Oh and really sorry to burst your bubble but...guess what? i'm actually typing on one of those systems now. the customer traded it in for a new triple core and it was such a low power unit I decided to keep it as a nettop. Its a circa 2004 Sempron, 1.5Gb of DDR, 200Gb SATA, and the same install of XP, I just cloned the old 80Gb onto the bigger drive..that's it.
You see THAT is what i find so funny, you'll jump through flaming hoops for your "free" OS but think even the most trivial of common sense, like don't open attachments or don't go to dodgy porn sites, must be too hard. hate to again burst your bubble (no I'm not) but frankly there are more than a dozen free AVs out there and pair ANY of those with any browser other than IE and the machine pretty much takes care of itself. it updates itself, defrags itself, protects itself...tell me, what do you think the odds of you getting even a 5 year old Linux up to current without a single forum hunt or CLI crapfest is? I'd say 0.0%. Hell i can install ANY version of Windows from 2K-Win 7 with nothing but a single disc and a shared folder, that's it. you see THIS is why I can charge so cheap because I get paid by the machine more often than by the hour and i can have 3 or 4 machines being installed and it requires ZERO effort, just pop in the disc, point at the shared folder on first boot, go have a sammich. Hell with Win 7 I even make money while just goofing off as any of my customers can just pop up a "Help me!" on my chat client and i can take over and install their software, walk them through hooking up that new printer, it takes minutes and its $35 a pop and they THANK ME for it.
In the end though the simple fact is the numbers don't lie and the BS you're pushing has been pushed so damned many times they actually have a website dedicated To Linux bullshit and excuses. In fact i can just take the top 20 from that site and cover every excuse and BS about FOSS that has been ever used on this site, sad really.
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised not too long ago? take a look and see. Maybe they just had bad configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means. Oh and as for that much vaunted linux security, which you seem to think Windows can't possibly compare with? Get ready, but you're OS isn't doing so hot. In fact last time i checked Securina Linux had more critical rated vulnerabilities open than Win 2K3 or Win 2K8.
Riiight, because they listened to us so well on the war with Iraq, free speeches zones, waterboarding and rendition rides, doing something about the border leaking like a sieve...oh wait, they completely ignored us. Hell the people in several states voted to legalize pot as well as gave the POTUS a petition and he gave in return the most flowery "LOL Goatse bitches!" speech i'd ever heard, frankly i'd have had more respect if he'd have just said "go fuck yourselves".
In the end with everything from Halliburton and the MIC to Monsanto the gov has made it clear they don't give a shit what you think, that is why ultimately the choice should be with the individual. Power corrupts and with the revolving door between the halls of power and the halls of industry frankly they don't care if you vote them out, as long as they do what their masters say they get a cushy job afterwards, oh and free healthcare and benefits for life to boot. must be nice.
As long as the doctor explains the risks and possible side effects then yes stay the hell out! what we really need is an iron clad "Stupid fucking you" contract that ambulance chasers can't just bypass. a good example of that would be the wonder drug for psoriatic arthritis in the 80s Tegison. anyone that took it had to not only get a lecture about not having kids and agree to not have any kids or even have unprotected sex for a period of 10 years they also had a shitload of forms AND a film you had to watch and sign a contract saying you had watched it and understood, so what happened? A couple of lawsuit lotto bitches took the drug and immediately went out and had unprotected sex and got pregnant and of course when the kids were born horribly deformed an ambulance chaser sued the company for a shitload of money. in the end this drug that was a miracle for those with severe PA was taken off the market thanks to a couple of lawsuit lotto bitches.
So yes as long as the doc explains exactly what kinds of risk you are looking at then neither the feds nor the lawyers should be able to say shit.
Bah, the antimatter got split up among the bazillion alternate universes along with a smartass kid, an old professor, and an R&B man...oh and some chick, because if its one thing the multiverse don't like its a sausage fest.
Does handbrake support DivX, especially DivX 5? Both my mom's DVD and my dad's media tank seem to play DivX 5 the best and with the way mom scratches discs and dad loses them they have both learned tis better to hand them to me and just have me convert for them. That way i can keep the discs all safe and neatly organized in the closet and when mom scratches the burnt DVD (which she will) I can just whip out the backup DivX file and reburn it to a DVD.
This is why all my customers have stuck with DVD no matter how big a set they have, once you have family you get really fucking tired of buying the same damned disc multiple times so a cheap DivX DVD player or media tank like the Nbox is a Godsend. As soon as the HDDs drop again I'll just buy mom an Nbox and 1Tb HDD and then I won't have to keep reburning the damned things but even then DivX 5 still for the moment seems to be the universal format, it plays anywhere on anything.
Let me get this straight, you are denying what every single study of the last twenty years has shown, that people with above 140 IQ have less than 2 kids while those less than 100 have on average 4? Hell can you not even use your eyes, haven't you noticed we have gone from shows like Cosmos to having a nation that knows more about who Snooki and the Kardashians are banging than they know about their own elected officials? If you don't realize Idiocracy is the future you obviously haven't turned on any of the top 20 reality shows, they are all either "Oww my balls!" or "Hands off my man bitch!".
Considering this is coming from someone who actually BRAGS in his sig that he follows a pill popping elitist turd like Rush? I'd say that's high praise indeed. Oh and just FYI but my grandfather was a card carrying socialist, thanks. I think a social democracy would frankly be better than the corporate fascism we seem to be growing now, where the top 1% can do any damned thing they want and get paid the money of the poor for doing it. See GE getting billions in tax rebates to send their last factory to India, see Cheney and Halliburton, frankly BOTH dems and reps are total whores now for the corps. Honestly the socialists couldn't do any worse.
Sadly F&F was nothing under Bush, and Solyndra was just the tip of a VERY stinky iceberg, one of the Kennedy kids got millions in tax free handouts for a "green' company that had never made a single dime. I'd google it for you but I'm just about to head out the door "Solyndra tip of iceberg" in any search engine will find the info for you. Summary 19 out of the 20 companies that got huge handouts were significant donors to the elect Obama fund. I'm a democrat and hated Bush but Obama is trying his damnedest to be worse than Bush in EVERY single way, worse on human rights, worse on jack booted crap, worse on bribery, hell i can't think of a single thing the man did better and that's just fricking sad. if you want to see what changed read this. Frankly I'm voting green rather than waste my vote on such a lousy POTUS. don't worry he'll still win simply nobody is gonna vote for mittens.
Wow, you really CAN'T escape that perception bubble can you? Let me spell it out real sloooowwww...UNSUPPORTED ABANDONED OS, now tell me "smart guy" how are you gonna make money when you are gonna have to SPEND MILLIONS making your own fork? Answer? you're not so Asus did the smart thing and got rid of the UNSUPPORTED ABANDONED OS. and frankly I don't give a shit what the community does, i was asked to write an article pointing out what we retailers would need to sell Linux, that's what i did. I purposely went for the most simple and most trivial of things because with it being all volunteers i know the busted shitters as i call them, the broken driver model, the horrible upgrade system, those are frankly NEVER getting fixed. some of it was the most blatantly obvious, like "There should be a website where you can buy hardware that WILL work with your distro, instead of playing hardware roulette" and even that is frankly beyond the skills of the community apparently.
But you go right ahead thinking its big bad Bill and the ghost of Jobs kicking the dogshit out of you, when the simple fact is people would rather STEAL the other guy's products that take yours FOR FREE. And NO retailer will sell your product at B&M, none. Walmart, Staples, best buy, all have tried, all quit, why? because your crappy driver model and busted support system made their support costs for those units MORE than simply paying the cost of a Windows CAL. How many computers have YOU sold at retail? Could that number be....zero perhaps? I've sold computers since before there even was a Windows and i can tell you your OS is simply unsuitable for purpose, not usable at all for consumers nor SMB. The ONLY places it can work is those that have full time IT staff to deal with the crap, otherwise it falls down and goes BOOM! Waaay too damned often. I've said it before and i'll say it again, Linux IS Windows 98, its a CLI OS with a tacked on GUI that's a second class citizen in EVERY way, its drivers are flaky, updates and upgrades break more than they fix, and you have to spend more time fiddling with it than actually using the damned machine for the work you bought it for!
I have XP machines that have been out in the field 8 years now, with ZERO driver failures, that's two service packs, around 3000 patches and ZERO driver failures. Can you HONESTLY point to a distro from 5 years ago you can upgrade to current and not have it puke on its own drivers? Don't say LTS because i've tried it, both LTS to LTS and LTS to regular and it puked. XP is supported until 2014, Win 7 until 2020. That's 11 years with NO INSTALLS, no upgrades, no hassles. Show me a single distro that even costs the same as Windows where i can get those kinds of numbers, you can't. Face it you simply can't compete as Linux is free if your time is worthless. My time is $35 an hour which means 2.5 hours and I'd be better off buying a copy of Windows 7 HP and putting it on the machine. Now THAT is the reality that retailers face with your OS, no secret deals, no money trucks, simply the fact that your support costs make your OS useless for the masses.
AM3+ is a dead end anyway as AMD has announced they get ONE, count 'em ONE new chip and that's it. You pay 40%+ more for socket AM3+ and there is exactly TWO chips for the thing, the current Liano and the one more BD based chip they are gonna release. And have you seen the benches? AM3+ sucks serious ass dude! My $109 Thuban frankly stomps all the new AMDs except for the highest chip and its within $30 of Sandy, that's just nuts. oh and they are lying their asses off, the new supposed "quad" Bulldozers are nothing but DUAL CORES with hyperthreading, yet they are charging higher than an AM3 Deneb quad? yeah right AMD, you're full of crap! trust me, grab one of the 95w Thuban X6 chips while you can, they are transcoding monsters and if you want they OC like mad.
Oh and for the anon cowards that say its impossible to get below room temp? its called heatpipes and dual 120mm fans on the heatsink. look up the hyper N520, she's a cooling monster and while quiet as quiet can be those 120mm move some serious air so dropping below room temp is not only possible, its quite easy. i'm not even using the phase dropping energy saver features of my new Asrock and I'm sitting at 70 degrees F and the room is 72f. If I were going passive cooling you would be correct but with 2 120mm fans pushing and pulling air over those heatpipes (The cooler is only $33 on Amazon BTW, great deal and works on ALL Intel and AMD boards) it drops the living hell out of the temps, especially with arctic silver.
Anybody know how good the BD rippers are? What has kept me away is it seems like it was 'Works one week, doesn't the next" and since i do much of my video watching on my netbook when i'm stuck somewhere the last thing I'd want is to be stuck with something I have to carry around discs for or have an internet connection so some crappy DRM can phone home. The drives themselves are only $60 but its not worth it if I have to constantly hoop jump just for the privilege of giving them my money.
I don't think its astroturfing as much as raging fanbois. there are several here that have more than 40 accounts so they can modbomb on "their" subjects, hell I even had one follow me around the web for half a year just so he could post 'Die you fat fucker die" after every single thing i posted anywhere, all because i dared to counter his total bullshit on Linux with actual citations showing the truth was the opposite. I knew guys that got royally fucked on both Intel by refusing to touch Athlon over Pentium netburst and again when they refused to touch ATI even though Nvidia was in the middle of bumpgate. Once someone is a raging fanboi you can give it up, you can place a hundred citations showing your facts are accurate and they WILL find a way to modbomb.
As for actual power usage when my Thuban X6 is sitting at 70f idle and I'm not even using the power saving features of my board I'd say yeah, their actual power numbers are bullshit. But you know the reviews are bullshit when they don't even bother to check whether the benchmark is compiled with the Intel Cripple compiler. you can take ANY benchmark that has been compiled with the ICC and take a Via CPU (the only chip that allows you to change CPUID on the fly) and watch as magically that very same chip scores 40% higher by simply changing its CPUID. I had to point this out to one reviewer who had written "I don't understand why all these tests show the Intel Atom dual beating the E350 by a decent margin but my real world tests don't show those results at all, quite the opposite".
While I don't have a killawatt to measure one thing I do know is that on every C2D and C2Q I've ever built the fans really kicked up and that Heat Sink would get seriously hot but the only AMD I ever saw that behavior with was the 125w Phenom I chips. The 95w and 65w Phenom I and II chips frankly barely get warm unless you slam them, even if you use the crappy cooler. Add a Hyper 212 or my fav hyper n520 and that chip will barely reach 120F after 4 hours of prime95. Personally i'd love to see a test with both chips running prime95 and killawatt because i think there be something fishy friend.
What's the max RAM on those? Because for me the selling point of the EEE was being able to hold 8Gb. With that much RAM I can have all my apps preloaded into RAM and as you've noted it sleeps DAMNED nicely. I also love how nice the DXVA support is, using the AMD system monitor I find I'm barely using 15% of the CPU when watching 720p vids thanks to GPU acceleration. Lucky for me though startup speed is not a factor so i just hibernate, if i need to use it right this second i can hit the Expressgate and have Chrome in under 6 seconds, which is nice.
Either way i think we can both agree that the ATI buyout was a smart idea, frankly i can't stand the Atom netbooks as the GPU is so gimped and the in order CPU makes everything feel like its dragging. Comparing a Atom dual netbook a customer had with my E350 was like a bad joke, no matter what i ran it was fast and smooth while his was "hurry up and wait" constantly. BTW if you like Brazos you'll love Brazos II. While i'll probably set it out a the E350 does all i need to do the rumor is the next gen will not only add dual channel memory but will make the switch from VLIW to Vector for the GPU which means the GPU will behave more like a hyper floating point when not being used for graphics and with OpenCL it should be able to accelerate pretty much anything. Personally i hope they come out with a quad version, can you imagine a sub 20w quad with kick ass graphics AND fast enough to run just about anything? I can see why AMD is spending more on the Bobcat than they are the desktop, mobile does seem to be where the majority of the market is heading.
He is talking about social darwinism, which is an actual school of thought. you might want to read the short story "The march of the morons' to see what would happen if you baby proof the world, or perhaps idiocracy. in either case while one doesn't want to see kids die one can't escape the simple fact that while the stupid have 4 or 5 kids the smart have one if they have any.
As for TFA all this will do is jack up the price, you MAY save 2 or even 5% if you are lucky, but most of the time sadly its people not paying attention to what they are doing that causes accidents. I don't know how many times I've seen people with their head down fooling with the stereo, messing with the AC, screwing with their makeup, anything but actually watching what they are doing with that 2000 POUND VEHICLE. in this case better driver education would probably save more lives than a camera they'll probably glance at for half a second and then promptly ignore.
I don't know about the parent but I'd suggest if you want to OC an AMD try the Asrock boards. I have the A770DE+ as I had 8Gb of DDR 2 I wanted to reuse for this build and frankly the Asrock OCing tools are the easiest to use i've ever seen in 20 years of building! paired with a 1035T 6 core i ended up at nearly 3.6GHz before I said "WTF am I doing? What do I need all this extra speed for?" and stopped but frankly if I'd boosted the volts I could have easily hit 4GHz. The Asrock OC Tuner is frankly butt simple, you can save different BIOS profiles and switch on boot to try different OCs and during operation just fire up the Asrock OC Tuner and you can tweak both the OC and the Turbocore to your hearts content. To top off the sweetness if you want to save power it also has a tuner that will turn off phases when in idle thus saving power.
Give the Asrock boards a try, they are really sweet, and if you sign up for the emails tiger has been selling the 95w Thubans for $109 shipped. put those together with a HyperN520 cooler and you have an OC monster friend, enjoy!
How is THAT flamebait? He very politely pointed out that for his needs his AMD quad is "powerful enough" while saving him a LOT of money, what is inaccurate there? I paid $109 for a Thuban 1035T, this baby does a DVD to AVI conversion in less than 15 minutes flat and cost me less than a Pentium Dual would cost, I'd say that's pretty damned powerful for the money. Powerful? Check. Quiet? Can't tell the machine is on with a hyper N520 cooler so check. Cheap? $109 shipped for a 6 core? BIG check there.
They really need to fix the mod system so that those that are making dozens of accounts can't modbomb as I've noticed this quite a lot lately, especially in chips, anything with Google, Apple, or FOSS. Anyone who checks out the posts on any of the above will find example after example of legitimate views buried by modbombs.
Acer os Asus? i got the EEE myself, wonderful little unit, maxed it out with 8Gb of RAM for just $33 and that much RAM with superfetch means the only time the SSD is gonna win is wake and sleep. While the SSDs are nice, don't get me wrong, I have too many media files and the hot/crazy scale with those frankly spooks me as I use my EEE for service calls and the last thing I need is to flip up the lid and have the SSD crap out.But as you've seen the Brazos platform is quite sweet, hell mine feels more like a CULV than a netbook and with an SSD I bet yours IS a CULV as far as performance goes, I just hope the SSD don't crap out when you need it.
They have already announced that AM3+ gets ONE, count 'em, one more chip, and that Piledriver is FM2 and NOT FM1. Now sure you CAN jam one of the newer chips into the older sockets but....uhhhh....guess what? You LOSE FEATURES. Its like jamming an AM3 into an AM2 socket, goodbye DDR 3, you've just hamstringed your new chip. And the buzz is FM2 is NOT backwards compatible with FM1 due to the new GPU component and AM3+ as I said is getting ONE more chip and then its end of the line. If you look on Tiger or newegg you are paying 40%+ for an AM3+ board over an AM3 and the ONLY advantage you get for the AM3+ board is TWO CHIPS? That's it? Fuck that noise.
And I'm sorry but the serious WTF was killing AM3 and Stars arch. Check any benchmark you like, you have to buy the FX8150 to compete with that $109 Thuban X6, that's fucking sad man. You have to buy a $289 chip, that BTW is just $15 difference between it and Sandy bridge which stomps the crap out of it BTW, just to beat a chip released two years ago.
So I'm sorry AMD but if you don't come out with something better priced than bullshoveler and pilecrapper my shop is gonna have NO choice but to go Intel. If I'm gonna have to play socket roulette anyway I might as well get a chip that is more than double the speed, especially when it is less than $20 between it and a lousy AMD quad which BTW just FYI that is EXACTLY what their supposed 8 core CPU is, its just a quad with hardware assisted hyperthreading. For proof look up any of the benchmarks where they turn off every other chip (the hyperthreading) and watch the IPC go UP, by as much as 30%. Their hyperthreading is seriously gimped.
Actually I'd say buying ATI was one of the smartest things they ever did. one can argue if they had waited until the market tanked they could have gotten it cheaper but hindsight and all that. But have you tried bobcat? Less than 18w for a dual core with an HD6310 GPU and often runs at less than 12w. hell AMD had to slow down their desktop production simply because they didn't have enough capacity to meet demand for the Brazos platform. If that's failure I'll take two please. Go to someplace like Tiger and see how many units you have with the E350, we are talking netbooks and laptops, HTPCs and all in ones, the OEMs are cranking out new designs to use those chips as fast as they can. I walked into my local Wally World the other day and less than 4 units were Intel, the rest? All AMD Fusion. And don't forget this is still running on VLIW GPUs, the next revs will replace them for vector units which should behave like a hyper powerful FP when not needed for graphics.
so I'd say while AMD has made some SERIOUS mistakes, killing the AM3 line and Stars arch before getting the bugs fixed (or better yet replacing for the consumer chip) the BD/PD design, trying to push a server chip like BD/PD as a desktop chip, frankly the APUs created thanks to the merger have been one of the few smart moves they've had. With Brazos they have a unit that stomps Intel+ION while often costing less than intel alone and thanks to intel shooting themselves in the face by killing the Nvidia chipsets there won't be any new ION designs. With Brazos you have a unit that sips power, is quiet, low enough heat it can be passively cooled, while still able to do 1080p over HDMI. If you haven't tried one you really should, its a sweet chip.
May I make a suggestion? Tiger has been selling their remaining stocks of 95w Thubans (in case you haven't heard in a serious "WTF are they thinking?" move AMD has killed AM3 for two sockets that have less than a year of life in them, FM1 and AM3+) for around $100. Sign up for their emails, that is where they have been offering it as of late. i got one and with the money i saved upgraded my ECS board to a nicer Asrock and i must say i couldn't be happier, the 1035T is not only around 40% faster than my 925 Deneb but whereas the Deneb would max out at around 139f doing transcodes with the hyper N520 cooler i paired the thuban with i'm getting a MAX of 114F and that's after 7 and a half hours of slamming the CPU with Virtualdub. At idle this baby is literally below room temp, no shit looking at Coretemp my chip is at 67f and the room is 72f. Frankly I've never been happier with a chip upgrade in my life and its just a damned shame AMD has killed AM3 but their loss is your gain if you jump on it and snatch one while they're cheap. I mean 6 cores for $109? How can you beat that? Paired with 8gb of RAM and a CF enabled board i figure this baby will last me until 2020 easy, what a sweet chip.
But for everyone that wants to save some money and have a nice chip snatch one of the AM3s NOW before the stock runs out because when they are gone, that's it. I went ahead and built my GF a new Athlon X3 box and gave the Deneb to my youngest and as soon as this next batch of laptops gets sold I'll be building the oldest an X3 or X4 before supplies run out. The really nice Am3 boards have never been cheaper and paired with 4-8Gb of DDR 3 and a Hyper212 or hyper N520 they make pretty badass desktops, plenty of OCing headroom if you desire and easy to unlock so that X3 can easily be the cheapest quad you'll ever buy. But for me that X6 so cheap? hell how could you not love getting 6 cores for $109 shipped? That's a no brainer.