Not to mention does the chromium offshoots count as Chrome or other? Because I've been handing out Comodo Dragon to all my customers and have no clue if we would be counting as Chrome or not. I've also noticed more Chromium installs on machines that come through my door, it seems to be getting some of the geek buzz like early Firefox did. I wouldn't be surprised if there are several other chromium based out there and who knows what they show up as either.
I do think this is a good lesson though, ignore your users at your own peril. MSFT ignored their users with IE for the longest time by letting IE 6 rot which gave them a bad rep to this very day, and Firefox ignored its users and went nuts on the bling bling and version numbers, thus running many users off.I know that after FF 4 I had to find something else because of all the complaints from customers about its lack of speed and "making everything jerky" which was FF slamming the shit out of the CPU.
But trying to judge simply by referrer i don't think will really work. i mean didn't Opera show itself as IE to keep from having compatibility problems? I'm pretty sure it did back in the day and i have no idea what SWIron or QTWeb (great browser BTW) or the myriad of other little browsers list themselves as, wouldn't be surprised if they simply chose Chrome for compatibility reasons.
Yeah you can't beat Asrock as i too have bought some of their bottom of the line boards for clients and they just run and run and run. BTW if the computer fairy needs a hand I'd suggest going over here as i've bought many a chip from these guys for builds and their service is top notch, and as you can see they have Phenom X4s starting at $55. By buying a piece here and a piece there you can easily end up with a sub $200 quad, sub $150 if you manage to salvage a few parts off your last build. And believe me its just nice to sit down and hear that baby purr and know there is nothing you can throw at her that will stall her out, I can watch a movies WHILE transcoding a video AND converting an AVI to DVD and never lose a frame, man that feels good. happy holidays!
Yep fraid so, it was announced Dec 5th by the CEO himself. The skinny is they are having such a run on Bobcat and Bulldozer (Bobcat has become the "go to" chip for the OEMs, its in everything from netbooks to HTPCs to all in ones, and the A series is getting sucked up by HP and Gateway for quad laptops) that GloFlo and TSMC can't keep up with production of those AND the AM3s, so instead of losing their higher profit chips they just killed the AM3s. I originally read it through the email daily links I get from El Reg but here is an older link that says they planned to end them in 2012, so they only upped their plans by a couple of quarters.
Sorry I can't find the original link but I'm kinda swamped with the silly season ATM. you might want to try the reg as i'm pretty sure that is where I read it and they confirmed that it IS officially the end of AM3, all that is left is the last chips that came off the line and what is in stock. i know that after i heard the news i went shopping for a Thuban and it took me three Etailers before i found a 95w Thuban left, the rest was sold out. if I'd have known ECS were lying bastards and i'd have to change my board i'd have gotten a 125 watter, but with this 1035t idling at 72 f and under load less than 100 f I really can't complain. but if you want one of the new chips better pull the trigger friend, because they won't last long!
BTW if you have a board that can take it these Thubans are fricking swwwweeeeet dude! Six cores of creamy goodness, turbo for when you aren't using all six cores, and actually seems to use less power and generate less heat than my Deneb did. With this new Asrock board (which I also recommend highly BTW, this baby has features I've only seen on $200+ boards) its just too nice. Anyway here is the chip and here is the cooler and I can tell you the three fit together like hand in glove. i had 8gb of DDR 2 RAM already so I figure I'm set for a good 5 years or more easy, since i haven't even OCed yet.
But if I was you and I wanted one i'd pull the trigger, because as you can see on the chart i linked to they were planning to kill AM3 by January anyway so its only a month off original roadmap, and man these chips are nice dude, damned nice. Score you a good 6 or quad and you'll be set for awhile, otherwise you'll be looking at the board needing replaced as well.
Then what we really need to be shooting for is CRFF or card reader form factor because frankly i haven't seen any express card or cardbus slots in a while on anything sub $1k but they ALL have card readers now. Sure that doesn't give a lot of space but that is why everything is going nano right? tell them white coats to get on it!
And while I love your idea of bringing standardization to mobile sadly it will NEVER happen, and here is why: all those PCs companies (with the exception of the fruit company and their world famous RDF) found that with standardization comes commoditization and razor thin margins and they don't like that, hence why there isn't jack shit interchangeable anymore if they can help it. I'm sure they miss the days of "Compaq RAM" that was 3 times the price but you had to buy if you had a Compaq, or Dell PSUs that were just funky enough they wouldn't fit in a normal case, and that is what they have now with mobile. After all how could they gouge you on a battery if you could just run AAAs? How could they get you to buy a whole new unit if the tiniest part fails if you could easily just buy the part and DIY or take it to the local shop?
Sadly the corps have figured out "designed for the dump" gives them their biggest profits hence why everything is so flimsy and easily broken now. Personally I wish the FOSS guys all the luck in the world, i'd love a cell phone or laptop where parts were as easy to get and interchange as your average desktop but I doubt the corps would ever let that happen, it'd cost them too much profit.
Cool, what's the temps? I keep my apt at about 74 degrees and the N520 is keeping the chip under load at about 85 degrees F, so damned near room temp, not bad for a $35 cooler. I'll have to keep an eye out for the TX3 because if i could score them for $20 that would be a shoe in for the standard cooler.
I don't know if you heard but AMD announced Dec 5th they have halted production on ALL AM3 CPUs, so if there is some chip you've had your heart set on now's the time. Ever since i heard of the Thuban with those 6 cores of creamy goodness I've been wanting one so I pulled the trigger and must say i'm quite happy with the 1035T I got. Stock is 2.6Ghz-3.1GHz Turbocore, but I OCed it a little to 2.8GHz-3.3GHz Turbo and its quiet as a churchmouse. So if you've been dreaming of a 6 or a quad you might want to get one Drinkypoo in the next 60 days or so, as the 6 cores and blacks look to run out first, followed by the regular quads.
Okay I'll bite....why? What's the point? Not the third world, as they are bypasssing our " program it yourself" early 80s phase and going straight to smartphones, see several Indian and Chinese companies that are trying to outdo each other in dropping smartphones for the third world for examples, and the first world? We have more damned chips than we know what to do with, so why?
I'm sure this will find a teeny tiny niche like Beagleboards or Arduino, which i'm trying to get the local college to use for their rocketry program, but most people aren't building rockets. Now I could at least understand the goal of OLPC, since they wanted to hand out preloaded Linux laptops that could be filled with books, now THAT made sense, but a $15 circuit board? Sorry but I don't get it other than a "for the fuck of it" kind of reason that is.
Well with the CPU on the Asrock sitting high frankly with mine there really isn't anything to "work around". I've found it best to do the full assembly and testing BEFORE putting the completed unit in the case, just sit the board on a table with some foam backing and fire it up, just to make sure everything is set. With the N520 the heatpipes raise the unit up enough snapping in the RAM was a breeze, and surprisingly it fit right into a mid tower case with no difficulty.
I guess I've been in the biz too long because when i thought aftermarket i thought this thing would be the size of a radiator for a 74 vega, the old ones frankly weighed a ton and were a PITA to fit into anything short of a full tower, but the coolermaster dropped in easy peasy and its hitting....damned if it hasn't dropped to 84F while still cranking out transcodes! the arctic silver must be starting to settle. How can one complain about a $35 cooler that runs cooler on full bore than the stock did at idle? i'm definitely gonna be using these on my new builds as standard, this is just too damned nice!
Funny you should mention that, I was teaching the boys starting at 9 how to build their own PCs, I found it was a great way to explain how computers actually worked. having their hands on the actual drives as i explained how signals are written onto the drive and taken off it really helped the knowledge stick and now he and his brother both have PCs they built themselves from scratch.
Of course now that the oldest is in college i doubt he'll be building any laptops anytime soon but I was soooo proud of the way he vaporlocked the salesmen's brains asking questions like " Does it support VMs? What is the FSB speed of the board? What's the max memory? How much memory on the GPU?". By the time he got through with them they ended up throwing in a free totebag and care kit just to make the sale! that's my boy!
Questions: Which unit did you go for? What are the temps? Did you OC? Because having previous exp with the bigger air coolers I figured that to get decent cooling to fit in this plain jane mid tower box I have, just an average black box with no extra fans other than the 120mm on the PSU, I'd end up having to break out a dremel but I was frankly surprised how much smaller and lighter some of the new units are.
I ended up having to go a little cheaper on the HS than I wanted thanks to having to change out the board (Lying ECS, saying their board would take a 6 when it wouldn't!) but frankly I was amazed when I fired the Coolermaster Hyper N520 up for the first time. When you look at the pics you'd think it was this monster but actually it fit quite easily in this mid tower and I've had the 6 core slammed all night doing video transcodes and my current temp is....damn, 86 degrees F! Hell that is lower than my Deneb idled at with stock clocks and I have the Thuban slightly OCed and the arctic silver hasn't had time to settle yet!
If any of the coolermaster guys read this? Thanks, its the little things that you remember, like how you provided a nice little socket with flathead adapter for bolting on the cooler, had instructions in actual English and a video on the website making it beyond simple to set up, and i don't know how they did it but these 3 pin fans are quiet as quiet can be, even with the CPU cranking out videos I can't even hear the unit running! That's nice, I think from now on i'll be including these babies as standard on my builds.
But I'm really interested in what unit you went with and how high you went as far as speed as i have a few 'must win teh benches!' customers and anything that will let those speed demons get a few more MHz is always of the good. I think for ordinary folks this Coolermaster will be all she wrote though, $35 and it keeps a chip THIS cold? While I like the idea of liquid cooling even the units in TFA won't fit your average mid tower so they are right out. Most mid towers only take 92mm exhaust fans so these units simply won't fit.
I had a P4 that made an excellent coffee warmer, does that count?
Seriously if you need a good cooler that isn't gonna break the bank I can't recommend more highly the one i just got, the Coolermaster Hyper N520. the thing was only $35, easy to install, works on pretty much ANY Intel or AMD CPU, and right now I have a modest OC on my AMD 6 core, bumping it up to 2.8GHz with a turbo of 3.3GHz, and with all 6 cores slamming doing a video transcode and without the arctic silver settled yet (don't use anything else, nothing beats the silver IMHO) the machine is barely hitting 86 degrees F without even having an exhaust fan. The combination of a pusher AND a puller fan (comes standard) along with the copper heatpipes really sucks the heat away from the CPU and surprisingly even though the fans are 3 pin this thing is quiet as a churchmouse.
So while I may be trying to get more aggressive on my OC after the silly season thanks to how chilly the coolermaster keeps the CPU (and the fact the new Asrock has an excellent OC utility built in) frankly I couldn't be happier, hell it even managed to fit nicely in a mid tower without needing to break out a dremel tool. Frankly for $35 USD I don't see how you could ask for more in a CPU cooler.
Slightly OT but not really since we ARE talking about CPUs and some of my fellow/.ers may not have heard, but on Dec 5th AMD announced due to the fact that they were getting more orders for the Bobcat and Bulldozer APUs than they can fill (from what i heard the Bobcat really threw them, the OEMs went nuts for that chip and threw it in everything from netbooks to all in ones to HTPCs and blew through their stock, although HP and Gateway is also cranking laptops with the A-series quad like it's going out of style) they have halted production of ALL AM3 chips to give the capacity to Bobcat and Bulldozer. so all you guys that have been eyeing some AMD chip? BUY NOW. I had to go to three different eTailers before i could find a 95w Thuban, the 6 cores and the BE are going quickly and when the stock on hand is gone that's it friends.
I figure with this coolermaster and easily OCed Thuban loaded into an Asrock with 8gb of RAM and 3Tb of HDD space i'm set for the next 5 years, maybe longer barring some new killer app that actually needs more than 6 cores. So with that let me leave you with my new happy song! We Wish You A Merry Thuban, We Wish You A Merry Thuban, We Wish You A Merry Thuban, And A Happy Six Cooooorrrres! Yee haw!
Let old hairy show ya what to do friend. You go to Craigslist, or your local Freecycle chapter if you have one, pick up any of the bazillion older boxes out there, keep an eye out for Celerons and Semprons as they are low power and both underclock quite nicely. Once that is completed go to your local mom & pop shop and ask about Ethernet cards. Since nearly all boxes today have Ethernet built in we usually have a drawer just full of Ethernet cards and we'll be happy to sell you some cheap. I personally am happy to let them go at $6 a pop and will even burn you a nice CD with the drivers along with some freeware if you'd like. Then you can either use the XP that came with it or one of the bazillion Linux router discs out there, if you want to get fancy pants you can pick up a $5 flash card and IDE to flash converter to cut down even further on heat and noise, but personally I'd leave the drive in it and use it as a downloader box as well..
Tada! you know how a router that is frankly insanely overpowered and will do anything you can dream up. DNS,BT, you can even use it to surf when the weather is nasty and you don't want to risk your main PCs. Depending on the board you'd be surprised how low you can underclock a Cele or Sempy and even at default clocks they can be pretty low powered. For years I had a 733MHz P3 I used for my "anything network related" box before finally giving it away when I got this 1.8GHz Sempron with a card reader. It makes a great DNS and downloader box, quiet as a churchmouse.
Or if you think that's too much trouble just cut DynDNS a check and call it a day. Personally I think one of the advantages of being a geek is we can make a PC into pretty much any damned thing we want and scavenging boxes and making cool stuff is a fun way to spend a Sunday IMHO. Hell I'm using my new EEE Netbook as a drum machine to lay down tracks with, just loaded Hydrogen along with making some cool patterns and tada! No having to kill ourselves worrying about finding a new drummer while the local college is off on holiday. By the time they get back we'll have most of the base tracks laid and can just hand one of the kids a CD and let them loose. Sure beats having to deal with an arrogant drummer whose timing depends on how many beers he's had up to that point, that's for sure.
While this is true seriously as a parent....what kind of dumbass leaves magnets where a 4 YEAR OLD can get them? Now obviously this wasn't the brightest bulb in the box, at 4 my boys knew that non-food items didn't belong in the mouth but still, not very damned smart. With my boys I would have probably worried more about one drawing on the TV with it, or maybe using it to stick his brother's shirt (with his brother still in it) to the fridge, which is why I didn't leave the rare earth magnets i'd yank out of dead drives lying around.
Now if this is some company that pulled a "Johnny Switchblade" (and points if you are old enough to know what I'm referencing there) and labeled a toy for the wrong age? i'm right there with you. there is only so many hours in the day and sometimes all a parent can do is read the label and hope its right, but ultimately nobody knows what is age appropriate for your kids but YOU. I've known kids that if they got a hold of a screwdriver at 5 would have probably stabbed themselves, mine would at least have had the sense to unplug the PC before they completely disassembled it.
Cool, thanks. will probably try it out next week when the off leases I've been waiting on show up, but since I've just spent the last 3 days with my main rig in pieces (ECS is a lying bunch of assholes BTW do NOT believe their CPU lists!) and now that I FINALLY have a board (Asrock, quite nice) that took my Thuban like a champ needless to say I do NOT want to see another gutted box ATM.
Bad enough I still have to finish my GF's prezzie on Sunday, so until the offleases show up there will be NO experimenting of jack shit, just quiet happy smiles as i enjoy my nice silent box cranking out video transcodes with V6 power of creamy goodnesss. Sometimes you just have to kick back and enjoy the little things, ya know? Mmmmm, six cores.
BTW if you or any of your family are on AMD just FYI but they announced Dec 5th they are killing production of ALL socket AM3s, including the Deneb and Thuban, so if there is a socket AM3 you or yours have been drooling over NOW is the time. After the announcement I had to go to three different eTailers before i could find a 95w Thuban, those suckers sold out quick! Got to say its worth it though, had it slamming making an AVI to DVD-DL for the last 30 minutes and its already nearly finished and barely 87f thanks to the coolermaster. Gotta love that 6 core power!
Yeah but Win 7 can be pissy about chipsets, as i found when i tried the same CPU in an Nvidia board. Win 7 did NOT like having an Nvidia chipset instead of the SB700 ATI and would NOT boot, just crash and restart thanks to Nvidia chips not supporting AHCI.
But where there is a will there is a way, replaced the ECS (lying bastards) and Nvidia boards with an Asrock that uses the SB710 chipset and Bingo! i'm now typing this on my original win 7 install while 6 cores of creamy goodness crank out video transcodes. XP frankly will boot on ANYTHING with a little hacking, I've known guys that ran XP on thumbsticks and just kept drivers for the major boards on stick, but Win 7 hooks deeper into the hardware for power management so you can't just switch chips willy nilly like that. there is a way you can get around it with sysprep but for me it was just easier to get the Asrock since it supported my old DDR 2 RAM and gave me crossfire and Asrock OC Tuner as bonuses.
Heartily recommend along with the Coolermaster hyper 520 which according to the instructions fits pretty much ANY Intel or AMD CPU and even with the arctic silver not settled is only hitting 88 degrees F! under moderate load, full load less than 105F! Just can't beat that, not for a $65 board and a $40 cooler.
Been there done that. got the last BIOS they released for the board, never got a reply from ECS support. After this I'll be sticking with Asrock or Gigabyte. i'm typing this on a brand new Asrock board that took that 95w Thuban without blinking, has a hell of a lot more features than the ECS did, and thanks to the coolermaster i slapped on that looks like the radiator out of a 74 Vega (Hyper N520, works on any CPU and is just $40, highly recommend) even with all 6 cores busy doing a video transcode its only hitting 86 degrees f, and that's before the arctic silver has had a chance to settle. Hell this baby is so quiet now thanks to the Asrock fan monitoring I can't even hear the machine running with 6 cores full bore.
But I learnt my lesson, ECS is good for some barebone kit where they've matched a CPU to it and you never plan to upgrade it ever, but for a machine you plan to keep for many years and upgrade along the way its Asrock or Gigabyte FTW. this Asrock took my mismatched DDR 2 800Mhz (two of them are slightly OCed gamer sticks, the other two standard) without a hiccup, has tons of features and even 4 BIOS slots for trying different setups, all for less than $65 with one day shipping from newegg. you just can't beat that, no way.
Then buy the service or run your own DNS why don't you? Geez, the economy is in the shitter, these guys are probably hurting just like everyone else and simply can't afford to keep giving the service away, yet listen to all the bitching. If the service is THAT useful to you? Then why don't you help them stay afloat! TNSTAAFL you know, would you rather they just went tits up? Service goes dark either way you know.
Bwa ha ha ha ha...its alive alive ALIVE! Bwa ha ha ha ha! It took a new board, a HSF the size of a 74 vega radiator AND ripping the box down to the frame to jam an ATX board into a box that has only had mATX boards but IT LIVES! And NO WINDOWS REINSTALL!!!! I swear the neighbors downstairs probably aren't too happy with all the jumping up and down at 2AM but who cares? ITS ALIVE!!!
BTW if you ever need a board I heartily recommend Asrock, this $59 board has features I've never seen on anything short of $200, like four BIOS slots that you can set and change on the fly with a button press, control over every drop of power that goes through the board, it'll even power down stages when not in use to drop the temps! And that monster coolermaster has the temps running at 73f before the arctic silver has even had a chance to settle!
We Wish You a Merry Thuban,We Wish You a Merry Thuban,We Wish You a Merry Thuban, and a happy six coooorrrrees! Yee Haw!
Funny you should say that when I wrote in the post that "at least the Asrock board has Crossfire' which i'm currently putting the finishing touches on. you ought to see the damned Coolermaster i put on that 6 core, it looks like the radiator out of a 76 Vega LOL! a word of advice about Asrock, often what will LOOK like a bad board? will just be Asrock being too aggressive with RAM timings. I've noticed their boards are more for OCers and they tend to be REALLY aggressive on RAM timings. The last board I built with them I had to play "guess the correct timing" but once i got the numbers right its been like a tank.
As for the other poster who asked about BIOS and ECS support? been there done that. board upgraded to the last BIOS they released for the model (A780M-M2 if anyone is curious) and my requests for support went unanswered. basically I got told on one of the forums they simply went by wattage and ignored the fact that Thubans have Turbo core which makes their power curve different than a stock 95w. If anybody has one of those boards I can testify it WILL take a Deneb but NOT a Thuban. Man I just hope I don't have to reinstall Windows. i'm hoping that since the ECS was an ATI SB700 SB and the Asrock is an ATI SB710 the chips will be close enough to let Win 7 boot.
BTW another word of warning DO NOT BUY NVIDIA BOARDS at least for AMD as they do NOT support AHCI or NCQ and I was told flat foot they won't be bringing any updates or support because nvidia isn't in the chipset business anymore, simply selling their older designs for as long as OEMs will buy them.
All is not a loss though I'm gonna switch the Deneb for my dad's Aegina and then slap the Aegina in a brand new box with the Nvidia board and it'll make my GF a kick ass quad. Since all she does is FB and YouTube it'll frankly be insanely overpowered with 4Gb of DDR 3 and a 640Gb HDD and with Win 7 HP she'll be able to use EasyConnect to simply have me fix any problems by remote. This way I get a 6 core (crossing my fingers this baby will fire) and dad will get the latest quad core that will fit his and my sweetie can finally retire that old P4 or give it to her daughter.
That is why that the board I'm about to drop in my machine since ECS IS LYING BASTARDS* has 4 DDR 2 slots, as i already had 4x2Gb of DDR 2 800MHz and frankly 8Gb is all I can ever see needing for quite awhile. So at least on the AMD side boards CAN be found that are quite nice and still take DDR 2, and as far as RAM goes CL and ebay is your friend there.
*- Don't trust ECS and their stupid CPU charts! mine clearly states it supports ALL 95w 6 cores yet the bitch would NOT fire with a nice new 6 core. Tried it in another board, nothing wrong with the chip, its just ECS lies their ass off about what their board supports! But at least the Asrock says in giant letters supports six cores and has Crossfire which the ECS didn't but thanks to those lying bastards I'm gonna spend most of the night yanking boards, from now on Gigabyte or Asrock FTW and ECS can kiss my ass!.
Riiight, I forgot Merika has infinite wealth compared to China, the middle east, Russia, etc. Why we can just ask the Chinese for it right before we bomb them, that'll show 'em!
Geez you sound like one of the pundits on Fox news, we are drowning in debt and yet you see NO problem with the fact that most of our planes are 1970s simply because every new design buys 10,000 hookers and a mountain of coke for every CxO in the MIC. Hell the new designs don't even fucking work! The F22 has been grounded once and according to some should be grounded NOW, the F35 is turning out to be a lame duck that can't carry shit without blowing the stealth, is lousy as a fighter, can't carry enough to be a bomber, and is too damned slow to be an interceptor. Its damned good at blowing cash like shit through a goose though, damned good at that!
You seem to be forgetting that our most likely future enemies are positively rolling in cash, China from the US, and Iran from all that oil. So your scenario will work for NK which i would argue isn't even a threat because Chine will deal with them, everybody else? Will spam us with aircraft thanks to Russia selling to anybody with cash. hell at this point we'd be better off going with the SU27 and the MiG31 ourselves, might as well as we can't seem to build shit here anymore.
Yep, allow me to say thanks to the console makers for making sure game engines aren't updated so that even old machines can game now, thanks lots.
My boys are gaming on two Pentium D hand me downs with 2Gb of RAM each and HD4850s. When I offered earlier in the year to build them new ones they were like "Uhhh...why? We're getting good framerates, all our games and software works, why rock the boat?" and sitting there watching one play the new Star Wars MMO and the other blasting TF2 I had to agree, what was the point? I myself was always the "must build teh machine NOW!" and yet here I am with an HD4850 and no real desire to upgrade it. Its gonna be a big enough PITA when I have to yank the board tonight thanks to the lying bastards at ECS saying a 6 core was supported when it wasn't, but my new board will take my DDR 2 800 8Gb of RAM which is frankly overkill, I have 3Tb of HDDs, overkill, and the HD4850 still cranks out the purty at the max res my monitor supports, so why go on a replacement spree?
If the tail of the next gen consoles is as long as the current one we'll all simply have to change out the boards one time, replace the GPUs one time, and that's it for another 7 years. I can see why ATI and Nvidia are throwing everything from HPC to Eyefinity at the wall hoping something sticks, because the consoles have made it so my 3 year old GPU frankly does everything I want it to. Why switch?
Well I think the better metric would be the intelligent use of RAM, after all DRAM is gonna take the same voltage whether sitting empty or fully loaded so having a large amount of empty RAM simply isn't doing you any good.
Checking resource monitor in Win 7 just now shows of my 8192Mb of RAM there is only 332Mb free, with 6373Mb being used for caching. With that large a cache it is more likely that when i launch a program its exe and.dlls will be already loaded and waiting on me thus speeding up performance. While you are correct that with modern desktops that extra caching simply won't be felt by most i could really tell a difference in my netbook when i went from 2Gb to 8Gb thanks to the larger cache and superfetch. I got around an extra 40 minutes on my battery, from 5:30 to a little over 6:15 simply because that much larger cache and superfetch keeping my apps loaded meant the drive could stay spun down more.
One thing i don't know why the Linux guys haven't ripped off yet is the new UI tweaks like jumplists and breadcrumbs. Frankly once you've used jumplists and breadcrumbs going back to the old way of file management feels like a real step back. With breadcrumbs I can instantly jump through a file tree without having to drill up or down through folders, and having nearly every app have the last 10 things you did instantly accessible simply by right clicking on the icon is just too damned nice.
How EXACTLY is that irrelevant Drinkypoo? Its simple economics 101: If your planes costs Yx10 and the other guy's plane only costs Y then guess what? he can afford to spam the air with his while you are stuck with a handful of REALLY expensive birds you'll probably be afraid to fly into combat for fear of getting them blown up!
How many of the Raptor was built? that would be less than 200 planes at a cost of 66.7 BILLION dollars. again the SU27 has a flyaway of 30 million, the MiG31 61 million. That means the enemy will be able to spam SU27s for the same cost or less than a dozen of our expensive turkeys. you get FIVE SU27s for every ONE of the Raptor, which means if the enemy spent the same amount we did our pilots would be looking at 187 Raptors VS 935 SU27s. Frankly I don't care how damned good you think the raptor is at 5 to 1 odds it'd get slaughtered.
We are falling for the same trap that destroyed Germany in WWII, with highly technically advanced and VERY expensive and high maintenance designs that limit the amount of weapons we can bring to the battlefield. i don't see how that can be anything BUT relevant to this discussion.
Not if you bore it out buddy! And lucky me I had an uncle with a machine shop that was a hell of a lot like Tim Taylor on Home Improvement. You could bring him anything and he'd find a way to get "more power" out of it. By the time he was done that 50 was closer to a 90 and with so little weight that damned thing would scream pal! The one I faced planted at 60MPH was a chopped down Yamaha 80 that he had bored out closer to a 110 and welded me some forks at the very end of the frame so I could get down on it like a pocket bike. We yanked the speedometer from a dead 125 which is how I knew how fast I was going when I hit the dog as I had hit a nice straightaway and was really laying in on her. i had just about reached the end of the throttle when BAM! Doggie in the front spokes.
So yeah we could fly low and nobody cared, and all the kids were always trying to top each other in the "need for speed" even before that saying existed. The record holder was the son of said uncle who my uncle built for him the front of a 73 350 honda and the rear end out of a totaled Chevy vega. that son of a bitch had so much power he could ride a wheelie through the first 3 gears on that thing! My uncle literally had to weld on a wheelie bar because if you didn't have one and popped first gear she'd flip.
Yeah it was nuts but you know what? It was FUN. And out of all the kids that rode together in that town only one died, and he got himself killed by climbing onto a roof trying to fix himself up a better radio antenna and took a header onto the concrete. As far as biking my face plant and my cousin with the supertrike needing a dozen stitches when he tried to take a curve too quick and wiping out were the only two real wrecks.
Read the one I was responding to which said "there has NEVER in our entire 4 billion years of recorded history been anything like cows" as far as methane was concerned. now considering the fact we have found plenty of evidence that brontos once roamed like buffalo did in great herds migrating with the food source, and as we have found pretty much ANY plant eater is gonna be one methane farting stinkbomb I don't see how anybody can argue that cows, I don't care how many, would make as much methane as the huge herds of brontos eating and farting their way across the planet.
TL:DR? Bronto farts top cow farts and fit within the 4 billion year window specified so GP is full of dino poo.
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Not to mention does the chromium offshoots count as Chrome or other? Because I've been handing out Comodo Dragon to all my customers and have no clue if we would be counting as Chrome or not. I've also noticed more Chromium installs on machines that come through my door, it seems to be getting some of the geek buzz like early Firefox did. I wouldn't be surprised if there are several other chromium based out there and who knows what they show up as either.
I do think this is a good lesson though, ignore your users at your own peril. MSFT ignored their users with IE for the longest time by letting IE 6 rot which gave them a bad rep to this very day, and Firefox ignored its users and went nuts on the bling bling and version numbers, thus running many users off.I know that after FF 4 I had to find something else because of all the complaints from customers about its lack of speed and "making everything jerky" which was FF slamming the shit out of the CPU.
But trying to judge simply by referrer i don't think will really work. i mean didn't Opera show itself as IE to keep from having compatibility problems? I'm pretty sure it did back in the day and i have no idea what SWIron or QTWeb (great browser BTW) or the myriad of other little browsers list themselves as, wouldn't be surprised if they simply chose Chrome for compatibility reasons.
Yeah you can't beat Asrock as i too have bought some of their bottom of the line boards for clients and they just run and run and run. BTW if the computer fairy needs a hand I'd suggest going over here as i've bought many a chip from these guys for builds and their service is top notch, and as you can see they have Phenom X4s starting at $55. By buying a piece here and a piece there you can easily end up with a sub $200 quad, sub $150 if you manage to salvage a few parts off your last build. And believe me its just nice to sit down and hear that baby purr and know there is nothing you can throw at her that will stall her out, I can watch a movies WHILE transcoding a video AND converting an AVI to DVD and never lose a frame, man that feels good. happy holidays!
Yep fraid so, it was announced Dec 5th by the CEO himself. The skinny is they are having such a run on Bobcat and Bulldozer (Bobcat has become the "go to" chip for the OEMs, its in everything from netbooks to HTPCs to all in ones, and the A series is getting sucked up by HP and Gateway for quad laptops) that GloFlo and TSMC can't keep up with production of those AND the AM3s, so instead of losing their higher profit chips they just killed the AM3s. I originally read it through the email daily links I get from El Reg but here is an older link that says they planned to end them in 2012, so they only upped their plans by a couple of quarters.
Sorry I can't find the original link but I'm kinda swamped with the silly season ATM. you might want to try the reg as i'm pretty sure that is where I read it and they confirmed that it IS officially the end of AM3, all that is left is the last chips that came off the line and what is in stock. i know that after i heard the news i went shopping for a Thuban and it took me three Etailers before i found a 95w Thuban left, the rest was sold out. if I'd have known ECS were lying bastards and i'd have to change my board i'd have gotten a 125 watter, but with this 1035t idling at 72 f and under load less than 100 f I really can't complain. but if you want one of the new chips better pull the trigger friend, because they won't last long!
BTW if you have a board that can take it these Thubans are fricking swwwweeeeet dude! Six cores of creamy goodness, turbo for when you aren't using all six cores, and actually seems to use less power and generate less heat than my Deneb did. With this new Asrock board (which I also recommend highly BTW, this baby has features I've only seen on $200+ boards) its just too nice. Anyway here is the chip and here is the cooler and I can tell you the three fit together like hand in glove. i had 8gb of DDR 2 RAM already so I figure I'm set for a good 5 years or more easy, since i haven't even OCed yet.
But if I was you and I wanted one i'd pull the trigger, because as you can see on the chart i linked to they were planning to kill AM3 by January anyway so its only a month off original roadmap, and man these chips are nice dude, damned nice. Score you a good 6 or quad and you'll be set for awhile, otherwise you'll be looking at the board needing replaced as well.
Then what we really need to be shooting for is CRFF or card reader form factor because frankly i haven't seen any express card or cardbus slots in a while on anything sub $1k but they ALL have card readers now. Sure that doesn't give a lot of space but that is why everything is going nano right? tell them white coats to get on it!
And while I love your idea of bringing standardization to mobile sadly it will NEVER happen, and here is why: all those PCs companies (with the exception of the fruit company and their world famous RDF) found that with standardization comes commoditization and razor thin margins and they don't like that, hence why there isn't jack shit interchangeable anymore if they can help it. I'm sure they miss the days of "Compaq RAM" that was 3 times the price but you had to buy if you had a Compaq, or Dell PSUs that were just funky enough they wouldn't fit in a normal case, and that is what they have now with mobile. After all how could they gouge you on a battery if you could just run AAAs? How could they get you to buy a whole new unit if the tiniest part fails if you could easily just buy the part and DIY or take it to the local shop?
Sadly the corps have figured out "designed for the dump" gives them their biggest profits hence why everything is so flimsy and easily broken now. Personally I wish the FOSS guys all the luck in the world, i'd love a cell phone or laptop where parts were as easy to get and interchange as your average desktop but I doubt the corps would ever let that happen, it'd cost them too much profit.
Cool, what's the temps? I keep my apt at about 74 degrees and the N520 is keeping the chip under load at about 85 degrees F, so damned near room temp, not bad for a $35 cooler. I'll have to keep an eye out for the TX3 because if i could score them for $20 that would be a shoe in for the standard cooler.
I don't know if you heard but AMD announced Dec 5th they have halted production on ALL AM3 CPUs, so if there is some chip you've had your heart set on now's the time. Ever since i heard of the Thuban with those 6 cores of creamy goodness I've been wanting one so I pulled the trigger and must say i'm quite happy with the 1035T I got. Stock is 2.6Ghz-3.1GHz Turbocore, but I OCed it a little to 2.8GHz-3.3GHz Turbo and its quiet as a churchmouse. So if you've been dreaming of a 6 or a quad you might want to get one Drinkypoo in the next 60 days or so, as the 6 cores and blacks look to run out first, followed by the regular quads.
Okay I'll bite....why? What's the point? Not the third world, as they are bypasssing our " program it yourself" early 80s phase and going straight to smartphones, see several Indian and Chinese companies that are trying to outdo each other in dropping smartphones for the third world for examples, and the first world? We have more damned chips than we know what to do with, so why?
I'm sure this will find a teeny tiny niche like Beagleboards or Arduino, which i'm trying to get the local college to use for their rocketry program, but most people aren't building rockets. Now I could at least understand the goal of OLPC, since they wanted to hand out preloaded Linux laptops that could be filled with books, now THAT made sense, but a $15 circuit board? Sorry but I don't get it other than a "for the fuck of it" kind of reason that is.
Well with the CPU on the Asrock sitting high frankly with mine there really isn't anything to "work around". I've found it best to do the full assembly and testing BEFORE putting the completed unit in the case, just sit the board on a table with some foam backing and fire it up, just to make sure everything is set. With the N520 the heatpipes raise the unit up enough snapping in the RAM was a breeze, and surprisingly it fit right into a mid tower case with no difficulty.
I guess I've been in the biz too long because when i thought aftermarket i thought this thing would be the size of a radiator for a 74 vega, the old ones frankly weighed a ton and were a PITA to fit into anything short of a full tower, but the coolermaster dropped in easy peasy and its hitting....damned if it hasn't dropped to 84F while still cranking out transcodes! the arctic silver must be starting to settle. How can one complain about a $35 cooler that runs cooler on full bore than the stock did at idle? i'm definitely gonna be using these on my new builds as standard, this is just too damned nice!
Funny you should mention that, I was teaching the boys starting at 9 how to build their own PCs, I found it was a great way to explain how computers actually worked. having their hands on the actual drives as i explained how signals are written onto the drive and taken off it really helped the knowledge stick and now he and his brother both have PCs they built themselves from scratch.
Of course now that the oldest is in college i doubt he'll be building any laptops anytime soon but I was soooo proud of the way he vaporlocked the salesmen's brains asking questions like " Does it support VMs? What is the FSB speed of the board? What's the max memory? How much memory on the GPU?". By the time he got through with them they ended up throwing in a free totebag and care kit just to make the sale! that's my boy!
Questions: Which unit did you go for? What are the temps? Did you OC? Because having previous exp with the bigger air coolers I figured that to get decent cooling to fit in this plain jane mid tower box I have, just an average black box with no extra fans other than the 120mm on the PSU, I'd end up having to break out a dremel but I was frankly surprised how much smaller and lighter some of the new units are.
I ended up having to go a little cheaper on the HS than I wanted thanks to having to change out the board (Lying ECS, saying their board would take a 6 when it wouldn't!) but frankly I was amazed when I fired the Coolermaster Hyper N520 up for the first time. When you look at the pics you'd think it was this monster but actually it fit quite easily in this mid tower and I've had the 6 core slammed all night doing video transcodes and my current temp is....damn, 86 degrees F! Hell that is lower than my Deneb idled at with stock clocks and I have the Thuban slightly OCed and the arctic silver hasn't had time to settle yet!
If any of the coolermaster guys read this? Thanks, its the little things that you remember, like how you provided a nice little socket with flathead adapter for bolting on the cooler, had instructions in actual English and a video on the website making it beyond simple to set up, and i don't know how they did it but these 3 pin fans are quiet as quiet can be, even with the CPU cranking out videos I can't even hear the unit running! That's nice, I think from now on i'll be including these babies as standard on my builds.
But I'm really interested in what unit you went with and how high you went as far as speed as i have a few 'must win teh benches!' customers and anything that will let those speed demons get a few more MHz is always of the good. I think for ordinary folks this Coolermaster will be all she wrote though, $35 and it keeps a chip THIS cold? While I like the idea of liquid cooling even the units in TFA won't fit your average mid tower so they are right out. Most mid towers only take 92mm exhaust fans so these units simply won't fit.
I had a P4 that made an excellent coffee warmer, does that count?
Seriously if you need a good cooler that isn't gonna break the bank I can't recommend more highly the one i just got, the Coolermaster Hyper N520. the thing was only $35, easy to install, works on pretty much ANY Intel or AMD CPU, and right now I have a modest OC on my AMD 6 core, bumping it up to 2.8GHz with a turbo of 3.3GHz, and with all 6 cores slamming doing a video transcode and without the arctic silver settled yet (don't use anything else, nothing beats the silver IMHO) the machine is barely hitting 86 degrees F without even having an exhaust fan. The combination of a pusher AND a puller fan (comes standard) along with the copper heatpipes really sucks the heat away from the CPU and surprisingly even though the fans are 3 pin this thing is quiet as a churchmouse.
So while I may be trying to get more aggressive on my OC after the silly season thanks to how chilly the coolermaster keeps the CPU (and the fact the new Asrock has an excellent OC utility built in) frankly I couldn't be happier, hell it even managed to fit nicely in a mid tower without needing to break out a dremel tool. Frankly for $35 USD I don't see how you could ask for more in a CPU cooler.
Slightly OT but not really since we ARE talking about CPUs and some of my fellow /.ers may not have heard, but on Dec 5th AMD announced due to the fact that they were getting more orders for the Bobcat and Bulldozer APUs than they can fill (from what i heard the Bobcat really threw them, the OEMs went nuts for that chip and threw it in everything from netbooks to all in ones to HTPCs and blew through their stock, although HP and Gateway is also cranking laptops with the A-series quad like it's going out of style) they have halted production of ALL AM3 chips to give the capacity to Bobcat and Bulldozer. so all you guys that have been eyeing some AMD chip? BUY NOW. I had to go to three different eTailers before i could find a 95w Thuban, the 6 cores and the BE are going quickly and when the stock on hand is gone that's it friends.
I figure with this coolermaster and easily OCed Thuban loaded into an Asrock with 8gb of RAM and 3Tb of HDD space i'm set for the next 5 years, maybe longer barring some new killer app that actually needs more than 6 cores. So with that let me leave you with my new happy song! We Wish You A Merry Thuban, We Wish You A Merry Thuban, We Wish You A Merry Thuban, And A Happy Six Cooooorrrres! Yee haw!
Let old hairy show ya what to do friend. You go to Craigslist, or your local Freecycle chapter if you have one, pick up any of the bazillion older boxes out there, keep an eye out for Celerons and Semprons as they are low power and both underclock quite nicely. Once that is completed go to your local mom & pop shop and ask about Ethernet cards. Since nearly all boxes today have Ethernet built in we usually have a drawer just full of Ethernet cards and we'll be happy to sell you some cheap. I personally am happy to let them go at $6 a pop and will even burn you a nice CD with the drivers along with some freeware if you'd like. Then you can either use the XP that came with it or one of the bazillion Linux router discs out there, if you want to get fancy pants you can pick up a $5 flash card and IDE to flash converter to cut down even further on heat and noise, but personally I'd leave the drive in it and use it as a downloader box as well..
Tada! you know how a router that is frankly insanely overpowered and will do anything you can dream up. DNS,BT, you can even use it to surf when the weather is nasty and you don't want to risk your main PCs. Depending on the board you'd be surprised how low you can underclock a Cele or Sempy and even at default clocks they can be pretty low powered. For years I had a 733MHz P3 I used for my "anything network related" box before finally giving it away when I got this 1.8GHz Sempron with a card reader. It makes a great DNS and downloader box, quiet as a churchmouse.
Or if you think that's too much trouble just cut DynDNS a check and call it a day. Personally I think one of the advantages of being a geek is we can make a PC into pretty much any damned thing we want and scavenging boxes and making cool stuff is a fun way to spend a Sunday IMHO. Hell I'm using my new EEE Netbook as a drum machine to lay down tracks with, just loaded Hydrogen along with making some cool patterns and tada! No having to kill ourselves worrying about finding a new drummer while the local college is off on holiday. By the time they get back we'll have most of the base tracks laid and can just hand one of the kids a CD and let them loose. Sure beats having to deal with an arrogant drummer whose timing depends on how many beers he's had up to that point, that's for sure.
While this is true seriously as a parent....what kind of dumbass leaves magnets where a 4 YEAR OLD can get them? Now obviously this wasn't the brightest bulb in the box, at 4 my boys knew that non-food items didn't belong in the mouth but still, not very damned smart. With my boys I would have probably worried more about one drawing on the TV with it, or maybe using it to stick his brother's shirt (with his brother still in it) to the fridge, which is why I didn't leave the rare earth magnets i'd yank out of dead drives lying around.
Now if this is some company that pulled a "Johnny Switchblade" (and points if you are old enough to know what I'm referencing there) and labeled a toy for the wrong age? i'm right there with you. there is only so many hours in the day and sometimes all a parent can do is read the label and hope its right, but ultimately nobody knows what is age appropriate for your kids but YOU. I've known kids that if they got a hold of a screwdriver at 5 would have probably stabbed themselves, mine would at least have had the sense to unplug the PC before they completely disassembled it.
Cool, thanks. will probably try it out next week when the off leases I've been waiting on show up, but since I've just spent the last 3 days with my main rig in pieces (ECS is a lying bunch of assholes BTW do NOT believe their CPU lists!) and now that I FINALLY have a board (Asrock, quite nice) that took my Thuban like a champ needless to say I do NOT want to see another gutted box ATM.
Bad enough I still have to finish my GF's prezzie on Sunday, so until the offleases show up there will be NO experimenting of jack shit, just quiet happy smiles as i enjoy my nice silent box cranking out video transcodes with V6 power of creamy goodnesss. Sometimes you just have to kick back and enjoy the little things, ya know? Mmmmm, six cores.
BTW if you or any of your family are on AMD just FYI but they announced Dec 5th they are killing production of ALL socket AM3s, including the Deneb and Thuban, so if there is a socket AM3 you or yours have been drooling over NOW is the time. After the announcement I had to go to three different eTailers before i could find a 95w Thuban, those suckers sold out quick! Got to say its worth it though, had it slamming making an AVI to DVD-DL for the last 30 minutes and its already nearly finished and barely 87f thanks to the coolermaster. Gotta love that 6 core power!
Yeah but Win 7 can be pissy about chipsets, as i found when i tried the same CPU in an Nvidia board. Win 7 did NOT like having an Nvidia chipset instead of the SB700 ATI and would NOT boot, just crash and restart thanks to Nvidia chips not supporting AHCI.
But where there is a will there is a way, replaced the ECS (lying bastards) and Nvidia boards with an Asrock that uses the SB710 chipset and Bingo! i'm now typing this on my original win 7 install while 6 cores of creamy goodness crank out video transcodes. XP frankly will boot on ANYTHING with a little hacking, I've known guys that ran XP on thumbsticks and just kept drivers for the major boards on stick, but Win 7 hooks deeper into the hardware for power management so you can't just switch chips willy nilly like that. there is a way you can get around it with sysprep but for me it was just easier to get the Asrock since it supported my old DDR 2 RAM and gave me crossfire and Asrock OC Tuner as bonuses.
Heartily recommend along with the Coolermaster hyper 520 which according to the instructions fits pretty much ANY Intel or AMD CPU and even with the arctic silver not settled is only hitting 88 degrees F! under moderate load, full load less than 105F! Just can't beat that, not for a $65 board and a $40 cooler.
Been there done that. got the last BIOS they released for the board, never got a reply from ECS support. After this I'll be sticking with Asrock or Gigabyte. i'm typing this on a brand new Asrock board that took that 95w Thuban without blinking, has a hell of a lot more features than the ECS did, and thanks to the coolermaster i slapped on that looks like the radiator out of a 74 Vega (Hyper N520, works on any CPU and is just $40, highly recommend) even with all 6 cores busy doing a video transcode its only hitting 86 degrees f, and that's before the arctic silver has had a chance to settle. Hell this baby is so quiet now thanks to the Asrock fan monitoring I can't even hear the machine running with 6 cores full bore.
But I learnt my lesson, ECS is good for some barebone kit where they've matched a CPU to it and you never plan to upgrade it ever, but for a machine you plan to keep for many years and upgrade along the way its Asrock or Gigabyte FTW. this Asrock took my mismatched DDR 2 800Mhz (two of them are slightly OCed gamer sticks, the other two standard) without a hiccup, has tons of features and even 4 BIOS slots for trying different setups, all for less than $65 with one day shipping from newegg. you just can't beat that, no way.
Then buy the service or run your own DNS why don't you? Geez, the economy is in the shitter, these guys are probably hurting just like everyone else and simply can't afford to keep giving the service away, yet listen to all the bitching. If the service is THAT useful to you? Then why don't you help them stay afloat! TNSTAAFL you know, would you rather they just went tits up? Service goes dark either way you know.
Bwa ha ha ha ha ...its alive alive ALIVE! Bwa ha ha ha ha! It took a new board, a HSF the size of a 74 vega radiator AND ripping the box down to the frame to jam an ATX board into a box that has only had mATX boards but IT LIVES! And NO WINDOWS REINSTALL!!!! I swear the neighbors downstairs probably aren't too happy with all the jumping up and down at 2AM but who cares? ITS ALIVE!!!
BTW if you ever need a board I heartily recommend Asrock, this $59 board has features I've never seen on anything short of $200, like four BIOS slots that you can set and change on the fly with a button press, control over every drop of power that goes through the board, it'll even power down stages when not in use to drop the temps! And that monster coolermaster has the temps running at 73f before the arctic silver has even had a chance to settle!
We Wish You a Merry Thuban,We Wish You a Merry Thuban,We Wish You a Merry Thuban, and a happy six coooorrrrees! Yee Haw!
Funny you should say that when I wrote in the post that "at least the Asrock board has Crossfire' which i'm currently putting the finishing touches on. you ought to see the damned Coolermaster i put on that 6 core, it looks like the radiator out of a 76 Vega LOL! a word of advice about Asrock, often what will LOOK like a bad board? will just be Asrock being too aggressive with RAM timings. I've noticed their boards are more for OCers and they tend to be REALLY aggressive on RAM timings. The last board I built with them I had to play "guess the correct timing" but once i got the numbers right its been like a tank.
As for the other poster who asked about BIOS and ECS support? been there done that. board upgraded to the last BIOS they released for the model (A780M-M2 if anyone is curious) and my requests for support went unanswered. basically I got told on one of the forums they simply went by wattage and ignored the fact that Thubans have Turbo core which makes their power curve different than a stock 95w. If anybody has one of those boards I can testify it WILL take a Deneb but NOT a Thuban. Man I just hope I don't have to reinstall Windows. i'm hoping that since the ECS was an ATI SB700 SB and the Asrock is an ATI SB710 the chips will be close enough to let Win 7 boot.
BTW another word of warning DO NOT BUY NVIDIA BOARDS at least for AMD as they do NOT support AHCI or NCQ and I was told flat foot they won't be bringing any updates or support because nvidia isn't in the chipset business anymore, simply selling their older designs for as long as OEMs will buy them.
All is not a loss though I'm gonna switch the Deneb for my dad's Aegina and then slap the Aegina in a brand new box with the Nvidia board and it'll make my GF a kick ass quad. Since all she does is FB and YouTube it'll frankly be insanely overpowered with 4Gb of DDR 3 and a 640Gb HDD and with Win 7 HP she'll be able to use EasyConnect to simply have me fix any problems by remote. This way I get a 6 core (crossing my fingers this baby will fire) and dad will get the latest quad core that will fit his and my sweetie can finally retire that old P4 or give it to her daughter.
That is why that the board I'm about to drop in my machine since ECS IS LYING BASTARDS* has 4 DDR 2 slots, as i already had 4x2Gb of DDR 2 800MHz and frankly 8Gb is all I can ever see needing for quite awhile. So at least on the AMD side boards CAN be found that are quite nice and still take DDR 2, and as far as RAM goes CL and ebay is your friend there.
*- Don't trust ECS and their stupid CPU charts! mine clearly states it supports ALL 95w 6 cores yet the bitch would NOT fire with a nice new 6 core. Tried it in another board, nothing wrong with the chip, its just ECS lies their ass off about what their board supports! But at least the Asrock says in giant letters supports six cores and has Crossfire which the ECS didn't but thanks to those lying bastards I'm gonna spend most of the night yanking boards, from now on Gigabyte or Asrock FTW and ECS can kiss my ass!.
Riiight, I forgot Merika has infinite wealth compared to China, the middle east, Russia, etc. Why we can just ask the Chinese for it right before we bomb them, that'll show 'em!
Geez you sound like one of the pundits on Fox news, we are drowning in debt and yet you see NO problem with the fact that most of our planes are 1970s simply because every new design buys 10,000 hookers and a mountain of coke for every CxO in the MIC. Hell the new designs don't even fucking work! The F22 has been grounded once and according to some should be grounded NOW, the F35 is turning out to be a lame duck that can't carry shit without blowing the stealth, is lousy as a fighter, can't carry enough to be a bomber, and is too damned slow to be an interceptor. Its damned good at blowing cash like shit through a goose though, damned good at that!
You seem to be forgetting that our most likely future enemies are positively rolling in cash, China from the US, and Iran from all that oil. So your scenario will work for NK which i would argue isn't even a threat because Chine will deal with them, everybody else? Will spam us with aircraft thanks to Russia selling to anybody with cash. hell at this point we'd be better off going with the SU27 and the MiG31 ourselves, might as well as we can't seem to build shit here anymore.
Yep, allow me to say thanks to the console makers for making sure game engines aren't updated so that even old machines can game now, thanks lots.
My boys are gaming on two Pentium D hand me downs with 2Gb of RAM each and HD4850s. When I offered earlier in the year to build them new ones they were like "Uhhh...why? We're getting good framerates, all our games and software works, why rock the boat?" and sitting there watching one play the new Star Wars MMO and the other blasting TF2 I had to agree, what was the point? I myself was always the "must build teh machine NOW!" and yet here I am with an HD4850 and no real desire to upgrade it. Its gonna be a big enough PITA when I have to yank the board tonight thanks to the lying bastards at ECS saying a 6 core was supported when it wasn't, but my new board will take my DDR 2 800 8Gb of RAM which is frankly overkill, I have 3Tb of HDDs, overkill, and the HD4850 still cranks out the purty at the max res my monitor supports, so why go on a replacement spree?
If the tail of the next gen consoles is as long as the current one we'll all simply have to change out the boards one time, replace the GPUs one time, and that's it for another 7 years. I can see why ATI and Nvidia are throwing everything from HPC to Eyefinity at the wall hoping something sticks, because the consoles have made it so my 3 year old GPU frankly does everything I want it to. Why switch?
Well I think the better metric would be the intelligent use of RAM, after all DRAM is gonna take the same voltage whether sitting empty or fully loaded so having a large amount of empty RAM simply isn't doing you any good.
Checking resource monitor in Win 7 just now shows of my 8192Mb of RAM there is only 332Mb free, with 6373Mb being used for caching. With that large a cache it is more likely that when i launch a program its exe and .dlls will be already loaded and waiting on me thus speeding up performance. While you are correct that with modern desktops that extra caching simply won't be felt by most i could really tell a difference in my netbook when i went from 2Gb to 8Gb thanks to the larger cache and superfetch. I got around an extra 40 minutes on my battery, from 5:30 to a little over 6:15 simply because that much larger cache and superfetch keeping my apps loaded meant the drive could stay spun down more.
One thing i don't know why the Linux guys haven't ripped off yet is the new UI tweaks like jumplists and breadcrumbs. Frankly once you've used jumplists and breadcrumbs going back to the old way of file management feels like a real step back. With breadcrumbs I can instantly jump through a file tree without having to drill up or down through folders, and having nearly every app have the last 10 things you did instantly accessible simply by right clicking on the icon is just too damned nice.
How EXACTLY is that irrelevant Drinkypoo? Its simple economics 101: If your planes costs Yx10 and the other guy's plane only costs Y then guess what? he can afford to spam the air with his while you are stuck with a handful of REALLY expensive birds you'll probably be afraid to fly into combat for fear of getting them blown up!
How many of the Raptor was built? that would be less than 200 planes at a cost of 66.7 BILLION dollars. again the SU27 has a flyaway of 30 million, the MiG31 61 million. That means the enemy will be able to spam SU27s for the same cost or less than a dozen of our expensive turkeys. you get FIVE SU27s for every ONE of the Raptor, which means if the enemy spent the same amount we did our pilots would be looking at 187 Raptors VS 935 SU27s. Frankly I don't care how damned good you think the raptor is at 5 to 1 odds it'd get slaughtered.
We are falling for the same trap that destroyed Germany in WWII, with highly technically advanced and VERY expensive and high maintenance designs that limit the amount of weapons we can bring to the battlefield. i don't see how that can be anything BUT relevant to this discussion.
Not if you bore it out buddy! And lucky me I had an uncle with a machine shop that was a hell of a lot like Tim Taylor on Home Improvement. You could bring him anything and he'd find a way to get "more power" out of it. By the time he was done that 50 was closer to a 90 and with so little weight that damned thing would scream pal! The one I faced planted at 60MPH was a chopped down Yamaha 80 that he had bored out closer to a 110 and welded me some forks at the very end of the frame so I could get down on it like a pocket bike. We yanked the speedometer from a dead 125 which is how I knew how fast I was going when I hit the dog as I had hit a nice straightaway and was really laying in on her. i had just about reached the end of the throttle when BAM! Doggie in the front spokes.
So yeah we could fly low and nobody cared, and all the kids were always trying to top each other in the "need for speed" even before that saying existed. The record holder was the son of said uncle who my uncle built for him the front of a 73 350 honda and the rear end out of a totaled Chevy vega. that son of a bitch had so much power he could ride a wheelie through the first 3 gears on that thing! My uncle literally had to weld on a wheelie bar because if you didn't have one and popped first gear she'd flip.
Yeah it was nuts but you know what? It was FUN. And out of all the kids that rode together in that town only one died, and he got himself killed by climbing onto a roof trying to fix himself up a better radio antenna and took a header onto the concrete. As far as biking my face plant and my cousin with the supertrike needing a dozen stitches when he tried to take a curve too quick and wiping out were the only two real wrecks.
Read the one I was responding to which said "there has NEVER in our entire 4 billion years of recorded history been anything like cows" as far as methane was concerned. now considering the fact we have found plenty of evidence that brontos once roamed like buffalo did in great herds migrating with the food source, and as we have found pretty much ANY plant eater is gonna be one methane farting stinkbomb I don't see how anybody can argue that cows, I don't care how many, would make as much methane as the huge herds of brontos eating and farting their way across the planet.
TL:DR? Bronto farts top cow farts and fit within the 4 billion year window specified so GP is full of dino poo.