so you start smoking pot at thirteen. Where do you get it from? A criminal? Yes. An adult criminal? Often times yes. Does this guy give a shit about how strung out some kid gets or where the little punk digs up his cash? Not necessarily.
"They tell me that weed has helped them stay away from the harder stuff."
That's the very definition of self medication right there. There is something deeper going on, they have exchanged one drug of choice for a milder one. But, it's not necessarily going to work all the time. Whatever their emotional problems are, they are not going to move along in a straight line forever, the intensity will fluctuate. The difference, is the pot smoker that smokes because they enjoy being stoned and the pot smoker that smokes pot because being stoned covers up their regular problems. Earlier I put up the disclaimer that if that problem is pain, I personally think pot is far more preferable to morphine.
What I don't understand is why this is so god damned important to you. Do you care what kind of treatment schizophrenics receive? If schizophrenics and their doctors all agree on a treatment that works for them, who the hell are you to question it? Not being either a patient or a health care professional, why do you care?
LOL, on that last line. I didn't miss a thing you said and I don't disagree with a word of it either.
Maybe one corner case, I'm ADD, so when I found speed, it was a new GOD, that doesn't go away. In fact, after sixteen years of refusing treatment I'm finally seeking out - speed (I'm leaning towards Ritalin right now). But, when I was self-medicated (read junkified), how are you going to find out that I was on to something?
Yea, I agree there's nothing short of legalization that will at least moderate abuse.
Pot is kind of nuanced though. If you come from AA, they will tell it's fine. In NA there's a lot of folks that feel that way too. But to me, pot's a gateway drug. If you go to NA to come clean off of coke and you're spending every Friday night at the same old bar having a beer and a joint - you're fucking up. Fast forward a few years and yes, I still say you have to be VERY careful. If you're using weed instead of morphine for pain, keep it up, but get your card, don't buy shit on the street from people that will be happy to rail you out for free a few times just to consume your paycheck later on down the road.
Hell, I've had two childhood friends recently fall off the wagon, one after some 15 years and another after some 12 years. Both of them got back in on the gateways and the "friends" they were getting them from.
Seriously, this is as much flamebait as the great grandparent. Your higher power could be anything, if you're losing your job over weed or getting DUIs, you aren't exactly one to talk about fallacies.
Mod this up. I remember being sixteen and watching my footprints turn into snowflakes into grateful dead heads with snowflakes and grateful dead lighters with dead heads and dead bears dancing around my mom's car only to discover I had my feet on the ceiling of the car (foot prints on the windshield) and my mom had just handed me a grateful dead lighter.
This is all very bluntly speaking. It is not necessarily this dramatic unless you actively work to piss everyone off. It happens at least a little bit, if you care about your job. Which, is really how it can get so complicated. Administration cares, faculty cares, you care, the students care, the students' parents care...
Good point. Politely ignore the administration too. That's why IT, regardless of the abundance of very intelligent people, is there. Some faculty may know more than you, but they won't necessarily be around to help you support it. The administration, will have some decent views too, but they have a tendency to walk into traveling salesmen problems or purchase a set from Erector and a set from Lego and wonder why they don't go together.
Seriously, you don't want to push too heavily in either direction. Either way will get you smooshed. You can align the faculty against the administration or you can align the administration against the faculty. If you ever find yourself facing one or the other by yourself (admin listening to faculty and asking you to explain things), give it up man. If admin and faculty have agreed on a failed strategy all you can do is explain, accommodate (probably with your budget or student help), bail out, and/or take the blame. Do this gracefully and you will probably get a shot at it next time, butt heads and you will likely go down in flames.
Whatever, this is a classic case of an idiot dragging someone down to his level. Some dude whacks off on you, I'm not going to call you a fairy if you feel a little traumatized.
I don't really care if you pop-off and bust the dudes nose or scream like a girl running up to the circulation desk, you ain't the freak whacking off in the library.
This hasn't changed, our understanding of the situation has though. There are versions of Office which are "not for commercial use" as well as the intel c++ compiler.
I love fishsticks too, but I'm not such a fanboy that I hate hotpockets. Hell, some fishsticks, hotpockets and marshmallows sounds like a well balanced meal to me.
Yea you're right and slashdot's a good place for that line of thinking, but there's only so much you can do for people. If you're competent and someone else isn't, you have a moral obligation not to prop them up in a position they can't handle, especially if it risks bringing you down. Lying to people about this fact of life is not help. Being honest is helpful, applying pressure to move in the right direction is helpful, scaring someone who should be scared is helpful, denying assistance when it's overly burdensome is not hurtful, it's reality. Furthermore, the answer to how each of us adapts is different - the post above about moving into the catering business does not help me in the least, but it is an example of what needs to be done.
No it's not. Maybe, we should collect our enemy's dead, and hire dr. death to plasticize them for display in a "fallen enemies" museum? (http://images.google.com/images?q=dr.%20death%20body%20art&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi) Besides, who the hell wants to sleep next to the guy that cuts the ears off of the people he kills?
Yea, I went to a stack of discs recently that date back to 2001-ish. Most of my archives work, but burning to the blanks causes the paint to "flake" off without error:(
So, backing up an old PC to ~ six CDRs ends with holding two discs up to the light and explaining, "see the pin-hole, that's where we lost three gigs of data". Hah, never again, but the worst part was no error.
As an aside, I've coined my own phrase. "Reality Comprehension", it's important to note however, that if your reality comprehension is much higher than the rest of societies, they may burn you at the stake or declare you mad.
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so you start smoking pot at thirteen. Where do you get it from? A criminal? Yes. An adult criminal? Often times yes. Does this guy give a shit about how strung out some kid gets or where the little punk digs up his cash? Not necessarily.
"They tell me that weed has helped them stay away from the harder stuff."
That's the very definition of self medication right there. There is something deeper going on, they have exchanged one drug of choice for a milder one. But, it's not necessarily going to work all the time. Whatever their emotional problems are, they are not going to move along in a straight line forever, the intensity will fluctuate. The difference, is the pot smoker that smokes because they enjoy being stoned and the pot smoker that smokes pot because being stoned covers up their regular problems. Earlier I put up the disclaimer that if that problem is pain, I personally think pot is far more preferable to morphine.
What I don't understand is why this is so god damned important to you. Do you care what kind of treatment schizophrenics receive? If schizophrenics and their doctors all agree on a treatment that works for them, who the hell are you to question it? Not being either a patient or a health care professional, why do you care?
LOL, on that last line. I didn't miss a thing you said and I don't disagree with a word of it either.
Maybe one corner case, I'm ADD, so when I found speed, it was a new GOD, that doesn't go away. In fact, after sixteen years of refusing treatment I'm finally seeking out - speed (I'm leaning towards Ritalin right now). But, when I was self-medicated (read junkified), how are you going to find out that I was on to something?
Yea, I agree there's nothing short of legalization that will at least moderate abuse.
Pot is kind of nuanced though. If you come from AA, they will tell it's fine. In NA there's a lot of folks that feel that way too. But to me, pot's a gateway drug. If you go to NA to come clean off of coke and you're spending every Friday night at the same old bar having a beer and a joint - you're fucking up. Fast forward a few years and yes, I still say you have to be VERY careful. If you're using weed instead of morphine for pain, keep it up, but get your card, don't buy shit on the street from people that will be happy to rail you out for free a few times just to consume your paycheck later on down the road.
Hell, I've had two childhood friends recently fall off the wagon, one after some 15 years and another after some 12 years. Both of them got back in on the gateways and the "friends" they were getting them from.
Seriously, this is as much flamebait as the great grandparent. Your higher power could be anything, if you're losing your job over weed or getting DUIs, you aren't exactly one to talk about fallacies.
Mod this up. I remember being sixteen and watching my footprints turn into snowflakes into grateful dead heads with snowflakes and grateful dead lighters with dead heads and dead bears dancing around my mom's car only to discover I had my feet on the ceiling of the car (foot prints on the windshield) and my mom had just handed me a grateful dead lighter.
Pot does not do that.
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This is all very bluntly speaking. It is not necessarily this dramatic unless you actively work to piss everyone off. It happens at least a little bit, if you care about your job. Which, is really how it can get so complicated. Administration cares, faculty cares, you care, the students care, the students' parents care...
Good point. Politely ignore the administration too. That's why IT, regardless of the abundance of very intelligent people, is there. Some faculty may know more than you, but they won't necessarily be around to help you support it. The administration, will have some decent views too, but they have a tendency to walk into traveling salesmen problems or purchase a set from Erector and a set from Lego and wonder why they don't go together.
Seriously, you don't want to push too heavily in either direction. Either way will get you smooshed. You can align the faculty against the administration or you can align the administration against the faculty. If you ever find yourself facing one or the other by yourself (admin listening to faculty and asking you to explain things), give it up man. If admin and faculty have agreed on a failed strategy all you can do is explain, accommodate (probably with your budget or student help), bail out, and/or take the blame. Do this gracefully and you will probably get a shot at it next time, butt heads and you will likely go down in flames.
Whatever, this is a classic case of an idiot dragging someone down to his level. Some dude whacks off on you, I'm not going to call you a fairy if you feel a little traumatized.
I don't really care if you pop-off and bust the dudes nose or scream like a girl running up to the circulation desk, you ain't the freak whacking off in the library.
Possibly, the only commercial licenses he deals with are the open ones (bsd, apache, etc).
This hasn't changed, our understanding of the situation has though. There are versions of Office which are "not for commercial use" as well as the intel c++ compiler.
Only if he's an idiot. I'd have laid claim to the dirt rather than the hole.
I love fishsticks too, but I'm not such a fanboy that I hate hotpockets. Hell, some fishsticks, hotpockets and marshmallows sounds like a well balanced meal to me.
Meh, you don't know what work is until you've faced off with a shark, a laser, and a proprietary driver.
"Hi I'm a PC, and I run Linux" ...."
"Hi I'm a Mac, and I run Linux"
"hi I'm an iPod, and I run Linux"
"Hi I'm a Shark with Lasers, and I run
Yea you're right and slashdot's a good place for that line of thinking, but there's only so much you can do for people. If you're competent and someone else isn't, you have a moral obligation not to prop them up in a position they can't handle, especially if it risks bringing you down. Lying to people about this fact of life is not help. Being honest is helpful, applying pressure to move in the right direction is helpful, scaring someone who should be scared is helpful, denying assistance when it's overly burdensome is not hurtful, it's reality. Furthermore, the answer to how each of us adapts is different - the post above about moving into the catering business does not help me in the least, but it is an example of what needs to be done.
What you don't eat hotpockets?
LOL, I always buy those big 24 packs of water bottles and just so happen to sit them next to the microwave. Are they safe to drink?
I disagree. Philosophy is a logical basis for morality rather than a fantastical one.
That's awesome.
Yep, beginning to feel a little embarrassed by my agnosticism. Best just to hide my true feelings and side with reason.
No it's not. Maybe, we should collect our enemy's dead, and hire dr. death to plasticize them for display in a "fallen enemies" museum? (http://images.google.com/images?q=dr.%20death%20body%20art&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi) Besides, who the hell wants to sleep next to the guy that cuts the ears off of the people he kills?
Yea, I went to a stack of discs recently that date back to 2001-ish. Most of my archives work, but burning to the blanks causes the paint to "flake" off without error :(
So, backing up an old PC to ~ six CDRs ends with holding two discs up to the light and explaining, "see the pin-hole, that's where we lost three gigs of data". Hah, never again, but the worst part was no error.
A-glass-ka?
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
As an aside, I've coined my own phrase. "Reality Comprehension", it's important to note however, that if your reality comprehension is much higher than the rest of societies, they may burn you at the stake or declare you mad.