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*Plaintiffs may not have access to the defendant's hard drive; the hard drive must be turned over to a mutually acceptable neutral computer forensics expert; and his report must be done at the RIAA's expense. (SONY v. Arellanes)
"Fiscal Republican" as apposed to these "Neo-Conservative" assholes. Personally in the US I try not to use the word "conservative" in order to avoid confusion (Americans are dumb), fiscally conservative is exactly what I meant. I was pretty young when Clinton was in office, but I remember three things, he played his saxophone on MTV, he opened international relations as much as possible, and the Monica Lewinsky Scandal, you're right though he did do a lot for our economy. Neo-Liberalism, hadn't heard that one, but I like it, I definitely think it's a good direction for America to go, we need globalization to a certain extent, we need a certain level of cooperation before we can convince the public/politicians that disarmament is possible. I've always been a fan of the "vast right wing conspiracy" theory as far as his problems with the Lewinsky Scandal and aims for disarmament explain our present situation quite well, it just fits. The Bush elections just seem like a "military industrial complex" ticket with icing.
Libertarianism is as you said insane, but we are moving in different directions, Clinton a liberal working towards capitalist goals and these heartless bastard Neo-Cons. Revolution sounds nice, then again that was written into the constitution before night vision, fully automatic weapons, and bullet proof vests, civilians just don't stand a chance any more. For America to start from scratch we would literally have to fall apart first, I still think that's a pretty risky proposition.
Call me an optimist, but I think it's possible. Clinton was on the right track until the whole Monika Lewinsky thing was funded as a character assassination. I think the problem with mutually assured destruction is that the US public, hungry enough, and in a temper tantrum may very well become collectively suicidal. Suicidal tendencies have always been a problem with that theory and we are collectively just that melodramatic. Not to mention that all we really need for our war machine is oil. Maybe we drift off like Russia did but not with an asshole like Bush at the helm, in the beginning he garnered support from the rest of the world as well as the US public.
The American government doesn't have the fiscal sense to run a popsicle stand without a trillion dollar budget.
That's an awesome statement. I think that if we had a Clintonesque leader playing his saxophone on American Idol everything would collectively fall into place, then a sane fiscal republican in office to get our finances in order without inciting God's word or going to war, then we'd be fine. Like I said another 10-20 years and we should be somewhere sane again.
Anyways, thanks for the chat it was a lot better than "omgponies" again, and again, and again, and again, oh wait, nope, again and.....
I would say politics is simply asshole management. You want about 40% of Americans (all assholes) to go unemployed, unmanaged, and unable to eat, while they sit on the largest collection of nuclear weapons in all history. You're insane.
... I want America to fall -- the benefit to the rest of the world will vastly outweigh the discomfort Americans feel...
You are insane.
There are many, many Americans that feel like you do about the war in Iraq (myself included), but the some of the alternatives are not nearly as bright as you make them out to be (some of them are much better, but not all). I don't want America to fall, I want America to make the necessary adjustments to let the rest of the world rise. America has been primarily a war economy since it's involvement in WWII, you say our decision to enter that war was brave, that we had options? Explain to me then what the hell the Cold War was? Our nation's commitment to WWII did not end in 1945, it's still here and finally that commitment is dragging us down, while you're just sitting on the sidelines waiting to go through our pockets when we fall. You're simply proof that nothing in the world has ever changed, never will change, and will always end with someone wanting what someone else has bad enough that they want others to suffer for it. I don't like where America is today, but honestly, I don't really think we did all that bad, if we were staggering like this back in the early eighties before the USSR fell the rest of the free world would have been literally shaking in their boots gearing up for war and buying as much of our weapons as they could. Instead we made economic and geopolitical compromises that would ensure that our war economy would outlast the USSR's. Currently, we have terrorists, as lame an enemy as that is, it's what we have and 9/11 gave our dip shit leader all the impetus he needed to gear up one more time. We have been mopping up after WWII for so long that we don't have a viable economy after the mess is gone, of course we're making mistakes, but you can't on one hand say we're brave and on the other call us cowards for getting beat up. Our pain right now is the price of our bravery, that's what makes it bravery.
Americans were leaders in industrialization, and practically reinvented the idea of capitalism -- both of which qualify as "great" by most estimations.
What's the next big thing? Computers? Space? What else? Come on, we don't lead the world in industrialization, we shouldn't be, because we don't have the largest population by any means. The more machines are built that do the work, the less important it will be anyways. We're getting finished cleaning up after the greatest war of all time and we've sparked off the beginning of the information age. Give us another 10 or 20 years to recoup, you'll see that we're not much different than any other industrialized nation, we've just had everything on the line for the past 60 years or so.
Yes, but literate wetbacks are literate. The numbers between Wikipedia and the CIA factbook are completely at odds, according to the CIA fact book we have 99% literacy when you include languages other than english. Well above the global average, of course that's including many of our territories too.
There is a ton of software that isn't supported on Vista and quite a bit that simply doesn't work. These are 32 bit apps that are broken, maybe the API wasn't destroyed, but there are a lot of applications that do not run on Vista or they run with after a certain amount of ritual Vista installation. Many people that have purchased Vista are disappointed because literally thousands of dollars of software that they own do not work with Vista. The funny thing is that once these apps can finally run on Vista people will then again need to upgrade if they need 64 bit apps. I don't know how much of this software needs to be rewritten or how much will be installable after service packs but right now it seems like a 32 bit upgrade cycle before people even start making the move to 64 bit apps. I might be completely wrong but drivers need to be rewritten for Vista 32 and they will again need to be rewritten for Vista 64, it seems like much of the software is the same, this is painful for the entire industry.
You keep talking about the 50s like it was some golden era of American contribution, it was, but why? It was a golden era of contribution because there was about two industrial nations that weren't still war ravaged and rebuilding their infrastructure. I've worked in a saw mill, I lost my finger and comparatively it paid about one fifth what it paid in the fifties. I know plenty of people that work just as hard as any man did in the fifties and you know what, the manager at McDonalds makes the same. It's just not profitable any more, because we no longer have a monopoly on infrastructure, that's why we need to control things like oil, it's because our economy was built on a world that doesn't need us like they used to. Now I'm not saying that our war in Iraq is the right thing to do (cause it isn't), just that I understand why they would do it. Not to mention that every war we've had in the middle east is easily traceable to WWII, hell I can't think of a war that the US has been in since WWII that didn't result from WWII. Now the EU gets together creates the Euro which easily becomes stronger than the dollar and people like you come out of the woodwork talking about how the US is finally getting what it deserves. You're sick, we aren't the greatest nation on earth we never were, we're just one of the industrial nations that was left after WWII. Currently our leaders are tasked with letting our country degrade gracefully or clinging and fighting to maintain number 1. It's obvious which camp Bush comes from, but at the same time he could just ignore it and let our nation slip into astronomical poverty almost assuring WWIII. Yea he invoked way too much religion in his plans and that sickens me, but the fact that he got away with it is really just a testament to how bad things may actually get. He's been compared with Hitler and if our unemployment rates had risen about 20%, I think that's exactly how he would have been remembered. I think our nation (generally) realizes this and will at least make adjustments for our next election, but the next president will not be popular in the US as the best thing for us right now is to build international relations at the expense of our industry without letting unemployment go into a landslide. We are struggling for our place in a global economy, we just have more to lose while the rest of the world has more to gain. This is decidedly not our fault, it's just something our nation is tasked with, we may make catastrophically wrong decisions, we may make remarkably insightful decisions at critical points, or we may just drift out of the picture into mediocrity like the rest of the industrial world. You can look down your nose at me all you want, all it proves to me is that you have an extremely shallow grasp of politics and rely mainly on inflammatory rhetoric much like George W. Bush, inciting hatred disgust and fear to serve your means, the difference being that you do so without an end goal, without purpose, and without cause. You are nothing less than a Nazi sitting on a soap box.
Ouch! This is why I just don't believe Vista is really going to get adopted all that quickly, what's worse is they broke 32bit apps, which will again need to be rewritten for a 64bit Vista OS. Of course they might make XP available for emulation later on.
Our political and social leaders have failed us, have you noticed how it was okay for your 7th grade earth science teacher was allowed to talk about evolution but your collegiate level physics instructor will deny belief in order to avoid a lawsuit?
Great chart. Chalk me up as blue on that chart, otherwise I've never wanted to buy a bumper sticker more in my life. You know a Darwin fish or something classy.
Languages:
English 82.1%, Spanish 10.7%, other Indo-European 3.8%, Asian and Pacific island 2.7%, other 0.7% (2000 census)
note: Hawaiian is an official language in the state of Hawaii https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/prin t/us.html
This would suggest that a good number of US citizens are literate in a language other than English, which is not accounted for in the wikipedia article you linked.
...20% of the world population is illiterate (by the UN definition). ...the National Assessment of Adult Literacy (NAAL), conducted by the US Department of Education, found that fourteen percent of American adults scored at this "below basic" level in prose literacy in English.
Those are from the article you quoted.
...cream at the top, largely from families imported from Europe, to glue the country together.
I don't know let's try polling the European Union then we can test 1/4 of the US population, if the results don't favor the US we'll just test a different quarter.
Funny I don't think you're that far off, all you have to do to get an XP box is go to the business section of any large vendor. The more people that know that, the more it will happen. Come school time I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't at least somewhat common knowledge, it was a well kept secret that you could get Windows 2000 for a long time after XP came out. I don't think the secret will be that well kept this time.
While I agree an apocalyptic future doesn't seem likely, I would contend that it is possible. Compare it to other monopolies and things look a bit different, Ma Bell, Standard Oil, these two companies were the only source for things that were desperately needed. Microsoft is different they sell software, something easily replaced by competitor products. The talk lately hasn't been about whether Vista will sell, cause it will, the talk has been about whether or not the industry needs or even wants it. The answer is that if Microsoft were still offering XP through normal channels then Vista would barely be selling at all, a full billion dollar, five year investment flop. This isn't like the PS3 having trouble competing with the Wii this Vista failing to compete with Windows XP. This failure isn't secluded either (like Windows 2000 vs. XP) it's mainstream, common people are not and do not want to upgrade.
He is not ostracizing you, he is simply stating that letting this idiot teach kids would be a crime. The results of home schooling are as broad as the results of public school. For instance many home schooled kids do far worse than high school graduates the opposite is also true.
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*Plaintiffs may not have access to the defendant's hard drive; the hard drive must be turned over to a mutually acceptable neutral computer forensics expert; and his report must be done at the RIAA's expense. (SONY v. Arellanes)
they can't
Okay, but the witch hunt doesn't start from the get-go.
It's frustration for an organization I despise and I enjoy that. Think of it as a feel good story on the nightly news.
Except it seems like nobody has been killed, therefore there is no murder weapon that will go to court.
"Fiscal Republican" as apposed to these "Neo-Conservative" assholes. Personally in the US I try not to use the word "conservative" in order to avoid confusion (Americans are dumb), fiscally conservative is exactly what I meant. I was pretty young when Clinton was in office, but I remember three things, he played his saxophone on MTV, he opened international relations as much as possible, and the Monica Lewinsky Scandal, you're right though he did do a lot for our economy. Neo-Liberalism, hadn't heard that one, but I like it, I definitely think it's a good direction for America to go, we need globalization to a certain extent, we need a certain level of cooperation before we can convince the public/politicians that disarmament is possible. I've always been a fan of the "vast right wing conspiracy" theory as far as his problems with the Lewinsky Scandal and aims for disarmament explain our present situation quite well, it just fits. The Bush elections just seem like a "military industrial complex" ticket with icing.
Libertarianism is as you said insane, but we are moving in different directions, Clinton a liberal working towards capitalist goals and these heartless bastard Neo-Cons. Revolution sounds nice, then again that was written into the constitution before night vision, fully automatic weapons, and bullet proof vests, civilians just don't stand a chance any more. For America to start from scratch we would literally have to fall apart first, I still think that's a pretty risky proposition.
Call me an optimist, but I think it's possible. Clinton was on the right track until the whole Monika Lewinsky thing was funded as a character assassination. I think the problem with mutually assured destruction is that the US public, hungry enough, and in a temper tantrum may very well become collectively suicidal. Suicidal tendencies have always been a problem with that theory and we are collectively just that melodramatic. Not to mention that all we really need for our war machine is oil. Maybe we drift off like Russia did but not with an asshole like Bush at the helm, in the beginning he garnered support from the rest of the world as well as the US public.
The American government doesn't have the fiscal sense to run a popsicle stand without a trillion dollar budget.That's an awesome statement. I think that if we had a Clintonesque leader playing his saxophone on American Idol everything would collectively fall into place, then a sane fiscal republican in office to get our finances in order without inciting God's word or going to war, then we'd be fine. Like I said another 10-20 years and we should be somewhere sane again.
Anyways, thanks for the chat it was a lot better than "omgponies" again, and again, and again, and again, oh wait, nope, again and .....
I would say politics is simply asshole management. You want about 40% of Americans (all assholes) to go unemployed, unmanaged, and unable to eat, while they sit on the largest collection of nuclear weapons in all history. You're insane.
... I want America to fall -- the benefit to the rest of the world will vastly outweigh the discomfort Americans feel...You are insane.
There are many, many Americans that feel like you do about the war in Iraq (myself included), but the some of the alternatives are not nearly as bright as you make them out to be (some of them are much better, but not all). I don't want America to fall, I want America to make the necessary adjustments to let the rest of the world rise. America has been primarily a war economy since it's involvement in WWII, you say our decision to enter that war was brave, that we had options? Explain to me then what the hell the Cold War was? Our nation's commitment to WWII did not end in 1945, it's still here and finally that commitment is dragging us down, while you're just sitting on the sidelines waiting to go through our pockets when we fall. You're simply proof that nothing in the world has ever changed, never will change, and will always end with someone wanting what someone else has bad enough that they want others to suffer for it. I don't like where America is today, but honestly, I don't really think we did all that bad, if we were staggering like this back in the early eighties before the USSR fell the rest of the free world would have been literally shaking in their boots gearing up for war and buying as much of our weapons as they could. Instead we made economic and geopolitical compromises that would ensure that our war economy would outlast the USSR's. Currently, we have terrorists, as lame an enemy as that is, it's what we have and 9/11 gave our dip shit leader all the impetus he needed to gear up one more time. We have been mopping up after WWII for so long that we don't have a viable economy after the mess is gone, of course we're making mistakes, but you can't on one hand say we're brave and on the other call us cowards for getting beat up. Our pain right now is the price of our bravery, that's what makes it bravery.
Americans were leaders in industrialization, and practically reinvented the idea of capitalism -- both of which qualify as "great" by most estimations.What's the next big thing? Computers? Space? What else? Come on, we don't lead the world in industrialization, we shouldn't be, because we don't have the largest population by any means. The more machines are built that do the work, the less important it will be anyways. We're getting finished cleaning up after the greatest war of all time and we've sparked off the beginning of the information age. Give us another 10 or 20 years to recoup, you'll see that we're not much different than any other industrialized nation, we've just had everything on the line for the past 60 years or so.
Yes, but literate wetbacks are literate. The numbers between Wikipedia and the CIA factbook are completely at odds, according to the CIA fact book we have 99% literacy when you include languages other than english. Well above the global average, of course that's including many of our territories too.
There is a ton of software that isn't supported on Vista and quite a bit that simply doesn't work. These are 32 bit apps that are broken, maybe the API wasn't destroyed, but there are a lot of applications that do not run on Vista or they run with after a certain amount of ritual Vista installation. Many people that have purchased Vista are disappointed because literally thousands of dollars of software that they own do not work with Vista. The funny thing is that once these apps can finally run on Vista people will then again need to upgrade if they need 64 bit apps. I don't know how much of this software needs to be rewritten or how much will be installable after service packs but right now it seems like a 32 bit upgrade cycle before people even start making the move to 64 bit apps. I might be completely wrong but drivers need to be rewritten for Vista 32 and they will again need to be rewritten for Vista 64, it seems like much of the software is the same, this is painful for the entire industry.
You keep talking about the 50s like it was some golden era of American contribution, it was, but why? It was a golden era of contribution because there was about two industrial nations that weren't still war ravaged and rebuilding their infrastructure. I've worked in a saw mill, I lost my finger and comparatively it paid about one fifth what it paid in the fifties. I know plenty of people that work just as hard as any man did in the fifties and you know what, the manager at McDonalds makes the same. It's just not profitable any more, because we no longer have a monopoly on infrastructure, that's why we need to control things like oil, it's because our economy was built on a world that doesn't need us like they used to. Now I'm not saying that our war in Iraq is the right thing to do (cause it isn't), just that I understand why they would do it. Not to mention that every war we've had in the middle east is easily traceable to WWII, hell I can't think of a war that the US has been in since WWII that didn't result from WWII. Now the EU gets together creates the Euro which easily becomes stronger than the dollar and people like you come out of the woodwork talking about how the US is finally getting what it deserves. You're sick, we aren't the greatest nation on earth we never were, we're just one of the industrial nations that was left after WWII. Currently our leaders are tasked with letting our country degrade gracefully or clinging and fighting to maintain number 1. It's obvious which camp Bush comes from, but at the same time he could just ignore it and let our nation slip into astronomical poverty almost assuring WWIII. Yea he invoked way too much religion in his plans and that sickens me, but the fact that he got away with it is really just a testament to how bad things may actually get. He's been compared with Hitler and if our unemployment rates had risen about 20%, I think that's exactly how he would have been remembered. I think our nation (generally) realizes this and will at least make adjustments for our next election, but the next president will not be popular in the US as the best thing for us right now is to build international relations at the expense of our industry without letting unemployment go into a landslide. We are struggling for our place in a global economy, we just have more to lose while the rest of the world has more to gain. This is decidedly not our fault, it's just something our nation is tasked with, we may make catastrophically wrong decisions, we may make remarkably insightful decisions at critical points, or we may just drift out of the picture into mediocrity like the rest of the industrial world. You can look down your nose at me all you want, all it proves to me is that you have an extremely shallow grasp of politics and rely mainly on inflammatory rhetoric much like George W. Bush, inciting hatred disgust and fear to serve your means, the difference being that you do so without an end goal, without purpose, and without cause. You are nothing less than a Nazi sitting on a soap box.
...maintain their delusions of adequacy by comparing their nation to the very shittiest, backwards little hellholes on the entire planet?So, your response is to state that you don't come from the shittiest, backwards little hellhole on earth?
Ouch! This is why I just don't believe Vista is really going to get adopted all that quickly, what's worse is they broke 32bit apps, which will again need to be rewritten for a 64bit Vista OS. Of course they might make XP available for emulation later on.
Our political and social leaders have failed us, have you noticed how it was okay for your 7th grade earth science teacher was allowed to talk about evolution but your collegiate level physics instructor will deny belief in order to avoid a lawsuit?
Ok I'll bite, what country are you from?
Great chart. Chalk me up as blue on that chart, otherwise I've never wanted to buy a bumper sticker more in my life. You know a Darwin fish or something classy.
English 82.1%, Spanish 10.7%, other Indo-European 3.8%, Asian and Pacific island 2.7%, other 0.7% (2000 census)
note: Hawaiian is an official language in the state of Hawaii
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/pri
This would suggest that a good number of US citizens are literate in a language other than English, which is not accounted for in the wikipedia article you linked.
...20% of the world population is illiterate (by the UN definition).Those are from the article you quoted.
...cream at the top, largely from families imported from Europe, to glue the country together.Just shut up. 6% is a lot on the global average.
I don't know let's try polling the European Union then we can test 1/4 of the US population, if the results don't favor the US we'll just test a different quarter.
I don't really care.
Just asking, how many games do you own that won't work in Vista?
Funny I don't think you're that far off, all you have to do to get an XP box is go to the business section of any large vendor. The more people that know that, the more it will happen. Come school time I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't at least somewhat common knowledge, it was a well kept secret that you could get Windows 2000 for a long time after XP came out. I don't think the secret will be that well kept this time.
While I agree an apocalyptic future doesn't seem likely, I would contend that it is possible. Compare it to other monopolies and things look a bit different, Ma Bell, Standard Oil, these two companies were the only source for things that were desperately needed. Microsoft is different they sell software, something easily replaced by competitor products. The talk lately hasn't been about whether Vista will sell, cause it will, the talk has been about whether or not the industry needs or even wants it. The answer is that if Microsoft were still offering XP through normal channels then Vista would barely be selling at all, a full billion dollar, five year investment flop. This isn't like the PS3 having trouble competing with the Wii this Vista failing to compete with Windows XP. This failure isn't secluded either (like Windows 2000 vs. XP) it's mainstream, common people are not and do not want to upgrade.
I knew what it was, just didn't know what it was called.
here kerningoh you're right, thanks! Less embarrassing than spelling intelligent though. :)
He is not ostracizing you, he is simply stating that letting this idiot teach kids would be a crime. The results of home schooling are as broad as the results of public school. For instance many home schooled kids do far worse than high school graduates the opposite is also true.