Have you ever checked out Sun's Project Looking Glass?
Yes, it looks neat, but it seems to have no practical application that I can think of. Okay, you can rotate your windows along an axis parallel to the plane of the display. So? That's just a fancy way of scaling windows, a job which Exposé does better in my opinion.
The point is that there are useful creative ways to approach the desktop other than the Apple approach.
Creative, yes. Useful? I'd say not. It's possible that this is just lack of creativity on my part...but I really don't think so in this case. I can't recall ever thinking to myself, "This thing I'm trying to do would be so much easier if only I could rotate this window along an axis parallel to the display plane."
how do you think Matthew Brady shot his Civil War photographs? With his precision-engineered 70-200/2.8 made in Japan by an army of clean-suited workers?
No, with precision-engineered lenses made in Germany by Zeiss. You don't seriously think Matthew Brady ground his own glass, do you?
And gears with little tiny teeth are utterly unnecessary to look at or project something.
The word you're groping for here is "sprocket." Without sprockets, you've got no way to pull film through the projector. And yes, sprockets have tiny little teeth that have to be very precisely machined to keep from tearing -- that is, destroying -- the film.
A little from column A and a little from column B.
Imagine it's 1997 again. Mac OS X is still little more than a dream, but NEXTSTEP has past its prime. If the GNUSTEP of today were transported back to the world of 1997, it would be awfully impressive.
Alas, it's not 1997 any more, and while GNUSTEP gets an A for effort, it has no practical application. It's strictly a hobbyist thing.
Although OSX is very cool (I've got a mac mini, love it to death) it actually does have a few viruses
Um? Like which ones, for instance? (The answer is, there are none.)
There aren't any lawsuits over who owns the linux code.
Okay, that's just not so. Linux is positively buried in litigation.
otherwise it doesn't matter because it's GPL'd
It does matter, because if the people who released the code actually stole the code, then it should be obvious that they have no right to try to saddle the code with a proprietary license. Or to do anything else with it, for that matter.
You might not like the fact that Linux is under litigation, or you might expect the litigation to end in a settlement or be dismissed, but that doesn't change the fact that Linux is in the courts right now.
A for effort, but D- for execution. It wasn't funny, first because it just wasn't funny, and second because it's God's own cliché: "Hey, I'll pretend not to know about some massively significant event in order simultaneously to perpetuate and to mock the stereotype that people like me are unaware of their surroundings." It was old when one antediluvian nerd said to another antediluvian nerd, "What's this I hear about rain?"
You are supposed to plug them into the computer directly!
Are we talking about the same thing? Computer mice? Little lozenge-looking things about the size of your palm? The cords on them are only about a foot long. Are you really expected to keep your computer a foot away from where you're working?
Oracle does have products for the Mac (though I doubt you'll run them on the Mac mini).
As a matter of fact, you can. Just fine. I have an Oracle 10g developer edition running on -- no kidding -- a 400 MHz G3 iMac downstairs. Fast? Hell no. But it works more than well enough for doing Oracle front-end development. The same machine is also running a developer instance of Sybase ASE.
I had to stare at your comment for like five minutes to figure out what you were talking about. You're talking about the USB ports on the keyboard, aren't you? They've been on literally every Mac keyboard since the Mac went USB, so I've always taken them completely for granted. Are you seriously telling me that there are USB keyboards out there that don't have ports on them? Where are you supposed to plug in your mouse?
I think your point is absolutely right on. Any computer on this side of (arbitrary threshold) is capable of doing any of the tasks that your average person could want to do today. Just like any computer on this side of (another arbitrary threshold) could do any of the tasks of 1984.
Now, we look back on the computers of 1984 as ancient history, but the fact is that they did everything we wanted them to do at the time. Twenty years from now, we'll look back on the computers we have today as ancient history because they're not capable of doing whatever the hell we'll be doing in 20 years -- and if you think you know, you're kidding yourself --but that doesn't change the fact that they're more than adequate for us today.
Well, as long as the software is up to snuff, I mean. I don't know anybody who would compare a top-of-the-line Windows or UNIX workstation to a Mac for a home user and declare either of them "adequate."
It may be cheap and sexy, but it's hard to find apps for.
The stock answer to "all Linux applications suck" is "write your own." Therefore, the stock answer to "there's no Mac software" --even before "wrong, dumbass, get back under your bridge" --should be "write your own."
The developer tools for Mac OS X are free and of much higher quality than the developer tools for Linux, and no operating system is easier or more fun to develop on than Mac OS X with the Cocoa application environment.
So if the literally hundreds of thousands of Classic Mac, Mac OS X, Java, UNIX and Windows (yes, Windows, via Virtual PC) applications aren't enough for you... shut up and write your own. Troll.
I think first they should shoot for "as good as Mac OS X," or even "doesn't massively and completely suck when placed next to Mac OS X." Let's walk before we can run, huh?
The only thing that is working in Linux/*BSD's favor is multiplatform compatibility
Yes, but it's a bad platform. Given that Mac OS X can already run any UNIX software that can compile on the PowerPC --including atrocities like X11 applications --there's no reason to ever use Linux on a Mac.
Source: Macintosh HD:Users:Leo:Movies:Reagan.mov Format: Integer (big endian), Stereo, 48000 Hz, 16 bits
TIFF, 720 x 480, Millions Movie FPS: 29.97 Playing FPS: (Available when playing) Data Size: 1617.9 MB Data Rate: 19.9 MB/sec Current Time: 00:00:00.00 Duration: 00:01:21.04 Normal Size: 720 x 480 pixels Current Size: 720 x 480 pixels (Normal)
TIFF would be a much better choice for archiving, because it's a much simpler format and is much easier to decode.
The one that publicly skewered the Talon News guy for having a conservative agenda but remained conspicuously silent when CNN head Eason Jordan publicly defamed the US Army in Davos? That Media Matters?
I hope you're right. Those guys are idiots.
(Of course, these guys with their "MXF instead of QuickTime, JPEG 2000 instead of RLE" thing are pretty much looking like idiots too.)
You're a nut. Grinding lenses is one of the hardest things human beings know how to do. And the precision machining needed to build those leetle tiny gears with all those leetle tiny teeth shouldn't be underestimated.
Yes, it's possible. No, it's not something just anybody could do. Think of it as being on the same plane as manufacturing a car out of slabs of raw aluminum and steel.
I think people who try to spin this fact of nature as either a good thing or a bad thing are missing the point. There's nothing insightful or revelatory here. It's a simple tautology: People like to read what people like to read. Duh.
I don't believe that the word "to speculate" is often used as "to make up ridiculous stuff in order to entertain 13-year-old girls with a Welsh fetish."
An application problem, not a format problem. PDF is entirely editable. Hell, if you want, you can open a PDF in Adobe Illustrator and modify individual points and curves.
You're thinking of LocalTalk. LocalTalk was inexpensive, low-speed, serial networking for Macs. It was soon replaced with Ethernet; the first Mac with Ethernet I ever personally used was a Quadra 700 in about 1991 or 92. Of course, it was trivial to add Ethernet to any computer in the Mac II family, but the Quadras had it built right in.
I think it's probably worth pointing out, though, that Macs had LocalTalk long before any other personal computers shipped with any kind of networking at all.
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Have you ever checked out Sun's Project Looking Glass?
...but I really don't think so in this case. I can't recall ever thinking to myself, "This thing I'm trying to do would be so much easier if only I could rotate this window along an axis parallel to the display plane."
Yes, it looks neat, but it seems to have no practical application that I can think of. Okay, you can rotate your windows along an axis parallel to the plane of the display. So? That's just a fancy way of scaling windows, a job which Exposé does better in my opinion.
The point is that there are useful creative ways to approach the desktop other than the Apple approach.
Creative, yes. Useful? I'd say not. It's possible that this is just lack of creativity on my part
how do you think Matthew Brady shot his Civil War photographs? With his precision-engineered 70-200/2.8 made in Japan by an army of clean-suited workers?
No, with precision-engineered lenses made in Germany by Zeiss. You don't seriously think Matthew Brady ground his own glass, do you?
And gears with little tiny teeth are utterly unnecessary to look at or project something.
The word you're groping for here is "sprocket." Without sprockets, you've got no way to pull film through the projector. And yes, sprockets have tiny little teeth that have to be very precisely machined to keep from tearing -- that is, destroying -- the film.
A little from column A and a little from column B.
Imagine it's 1997 again. Mac OS X is still little more than a dream, but NEXTSTEP has past its prime. If the GNUSTEP of today were transported back to the world of 1997, it would be awfully impressive.
Alas, it's not 1997 any more, and while GNUSTEP gets an A for effort, it has no practical application. It's strictly a hobbyist thing.
Although OSX is very cool (I've got a mac mini, love it to death) it actually does have a few viruses
Um? Like which ones, for instance? (The answer is, there are none.)
There aren't any lawsuits over who owns the linux code.
Okay, that's just not so. Linux is positively buried in litigation.
otherwise it doesn't matter because it's GPL'd
It does matter, because if the people who released the code actually stole the code, then it should be obvious that they have no right to try to saddle the code with a proprietary license. Or to do anything else with it, for that matter.
You might not like the fact that Linux is under litigation, or you might expect the litigation to end in a settlement or be dismissed, but that doesn't change the fact that Linux is in the courts right now.
It was also meant as humorous.
A for effort, but D- for execution. It wasn't funny, first because it just wasn't funny, and second because it's God's own cliché: "Hey, I'll pretend not to know about some massively significant event in order simultaneously to perpetuate and to mock the stereotype that people like me are unaware of their surroundings." It was old when one antediluvian nerd said to another antediluvian nerd, "What's this I hear about rain?"
You are supposed to plug them into the computer directly!
Are we talking about the same thing? Computer mice? Little lozenge-looking things about the size of your palm? The cords on them are only about a foot long. Are you really expected to keep your computer a foot away from where you're working?
I didn't get the "computer case" part until I looked at the comments and saw yours.
Terrible, terrible.
(Though I have to disagree with you about Slashdot's decline. It was always awful. This is just the most recent example of how it's awful.)
Oracle does have products for the Mac (though I doubt you'll run them on the Mac mini).
As a matter of fact, you can. Just fine. I have an Oracle 10g developer edition running on -- no kidding -- a 400 MHz G3 iMac downstairs. Fast? Hell no. But it works more than well enough for doing Oracle front-end development. The same machine is also running a developer instance of Sybase ASE.
I had to stare at your comment for like five minutes to figure out what you were talking about. You're talking about the USB ports on the keyboard, aren't you? They've been on literally every Mac keyboard since the Mac went USB, so I've always taken them completely for granted. Are you seriously telling me that there are USB keyboards out there that don't have ports on them? Where are you supposed to plug in your mouse?
I think your point is absolutely right on. Any computer on this side of (arbitrary threshold) is capable of doing any of the tasks that your average person could want to do today. Just like any computer on this side of (another arbitrary threshold) could do any of the tasks of 1984.
Now, we look back on the computers of 1984 as ancient history, but the fact is that they did everything we wanted them to do at the time. Twenty years from now, we'll look back on the computers we have today as ancient history because they're not capable of doing whatever the hell we'll be doing in 20 years -- and if you think you know, you're kidding yourself --but that doesn't change the fact that they're more than adequate for us today.
Well, as long as the software is up to snuff, I mean. I don't know anybody who would compare a top-of-the-line Windows or UNIX workstation to a Mac for a home user and declare either of them "adequate."
It may be cheap and sexy, but it's hard to find apps for.
... shut up and write your own. Troll.
The stock answer to "all Linux applications suck" is "write your own." Therefore, the stock answer to "there's no Mac software" --even before "wrong, dumbass, get back under your bridge" --should be "write your own."
The developer tools for Mac OS X are free and of much higher quality than the developer tools for Linux, and no operating system is easier or more fun to develop on than Mac OS X with the Cocoa application environment.
So if the literally hundreds of thousands of Classic Mac, Mac OS X, Java, UNIX and Windows (yes, Windows, via Virtual PC) applications aren't enough for you
I think first they should shoot for "as good as Mac OS X," or even "doesn't massively and completely suck when placed next to Mac OS X." Let's walk before we can run, huh?
The only thing that is working in Linux/*BSD's favor is multiplatform compatibility
Yes, but it's a bad platform. Given that Mac OS X can already run any UNIX software that can compile on the PowerPC --including atrocities like X11 applications --there's no reason to ever use Linux on a Mac.
This isn't Tautology it's Technology. Using a codified process to obtain a result.
I think you meant "scientific method," except it wasn't anything like that. There was no control, the experiment wasn't repeatable, etc., etc.
Yes, it's tautology, because all they proved was their premise. Their logic went like this: "If X, then X."
Making complaints about reduncancy is griping about moderations.
I don't think you understood my point at all.
They already sell Compact Flash cards. It's not that much of a leap.
The one that publicly skewered the Talon News guy for having a conservative agenda but remained conspicuously silent when CNN head Eason Jordan publicly defamed the US Army in Davos? That Media Matters?
I hope you're right. Those guys are idiots.
(Of course, these guys with their "MXF instead of QuickTime, JPEG 2000 instead of RLE" thing are pretty much looking like idiots too.)
You're a nut. Grinding lenses is one of the hardest things human beings know how to do. And the precision machining needed to build those leetle tiny gears with all those leetle tiny teeth shouldn't be underestimated.
Yes, it's possible. No, it's not something just anybody could do. Think of it as being on the same plane as manufacturing a car out of slabs of raw aluminum and steel.
Every kind of video goes through an ADC at one point
Eh, you kids. Forgettin' that video was once an inherently analog medium.
I think people who try to spin this fact of nature as either a good thing or a bad thing are missing the point. There's nothing insightful or revelatory here. It's a simple tautology: People like to read what people like to read. Duh.
I don't believe that the word "to speculate" is often used as "to make up ridiculous stuff in order to entertain 13-year-old girls with a Welsh fetish."
Try to edit a PDF in ... fuckin' anything.
An application problem, not a format problem. PDF is entirely editable. Hell, if you want, you can open a PDF in Adobe Illustrator and modify individual points and curves.
All licenses are inherently "proprietary".
Bingo.
the GPL is a very, very permissive license
Swing and a miss.
You didn't seriously thing I was going to read a comment left by somebody who signs his work "fingerfucker," did you?
Skipped it, moved on. 'Night.
You're thinking of LocalTalk. LocalTalk was inexpensive, low-speed, serial networking for Macs. It was soon replaced with Ethernet; the first Mac with Ethernet I ever personally used was a Quadra 700 in about 1991 or 92. Of course, it was trivial to add Ethernet to any computer in the Mac II family, but the Quadras had it built right in.
I think it's probably worth pointing out, though, that Macs had LocalTalk long before any other personal computers shipped with any kind of networking at all.