The only work they have to show is Bryce 3D pictures and an ICP they released two years ago. It's too bad that the parent got modded up, because this is a project holding its fans together by only hype. Anybody can visit the forums to see this themselves. You're likely not to encounter anything except Bryce 3D renders, text from the guy working on Infinity describing all the features, and mostly fans themselves who are excited about all the features described.
"Infinity" is the most vaporware MMORPG out there. There is absolutely no substance. It is held together only by people who are gullible to its creator's fanciful promises about how awesome the game will be. I really can't put it any other way that that.
Having well-developed multiplayer gameplay does not mean that the game is inherently multiplayer-based. If you need your key refreshed for more installs, you can contact the company, for some inconvenience in exchange. If the company is gone, so is multiplayer. If multiplayer is gone, then you only have single player. If there's only singleplayer, then there's no reason NOT to crack it.
Also, someone already wrote your post above, and I already responded to it once.;)
Thank you for this reply. I have not had any problems with Daemon Tools in any way (and my second DVD drive is physically disconnected). Perhaps I have been a lucky one, but seeing as how I have not personally been affected, it does not lower my eagerness to compensate Rockstar for this game.
Multiplayer are not the main focuses of either of these games. Something like BF2 is more along the lines of a "multiplayer game". People flock in droves to play single-player Spore and single-player GTA IV, however you would be very hard pressed to find people who bought BF2 for the single-player side of things.
I think people may be missing the human side of the problem. Let's say your an engineer and your manager comes to you and says "zomg! piratez! they r eatin ma soupz!" And being that you're the guy they're paying the big bucks to impliment features, it falls to you to stop people from "pirating". Now, being an engineer you know that there's no way to keep a game from being copied, but your boss is frothing at the mouth and pseudo-geek talk is coming out of his mouth while he runs through the office with a stack of trade magazines -- so you have to do something. So you call up Xyzzy company and tell your boss to pay them a lot of money and the problem goes away. Your boss collapes on his desk in a deep sigh of relief, signs away several million dollars, and -- blammo, SecuROM.
It's called "feel good security". It's the same kind of security you run into in large corporations. You know, you have to use a randomly generated 18 character alphanumeric password and it changes every 90 days... which is great except that when you go to do your timesheets you have to enter your LAN password... which goes over the wire plaintext encapsulated in an HTTP POST query. Oops. Also, because not everybody's memory is so great, it becomes common practice to keep the 18 character passwords written on sticky notes.
This is the true genesis of DRM... Ignorance and management fretting over money. It will be viewed as good as long as they "save" more money than it "costs" them.
I don't know about other people, but personally if I saw a cool game on Pirate Bay, after I've downloaded and installed it I will never buy the game, no matter how much I like it. It is simply an issue of convenience for me at that point. I don't feel like uninstalling the game, redownloading it, and reinstalling for no beneficial gain.
I have bought many games on Steam in the last couple of months (including FO3, Farcry 2, World of Goo, and now GTA IV) but if I have already downloaded a game to my PC, there's no way I'm going through the trouble of buying it and going through those steps again.
Spore and GTA IV are not multiplayer games, so there is no need to abstain from using a crack. In these two cases, you do not need to "reactivate" your key.
You're right about Spore. I got my $50 play time out of it just barely, but it probably will never be installed again.
and find out that it won't activate?
The only reason I didn't download a crack was because I wanted to play the game in question online. It's hard to envision a scenario in which the parent company is gone yet I still want to play it online, hard enough to envision to the point where I do not mind shelling out money for a game that has this DRM.
The game is garbage. It was heavily gimped to fit on the 7 gigabyte 360 DVD format and no standard harddrive and the graphics are shit thanks to being downgraded to run on the weak 360 graphics hardware.
I already read a blurb about it having SecuROM, but just like Spore, I don't really care. Spore ran fine without causing me any problems, and I've already pre-ordered GTA4 on Steam.
I recently ran into a problem with a different game having a five-install limit, and it took me an utterly annoying full week to get a new key through their message boards, but it finally went through. Aside from that one recent incident of a two-year-old game, I have never had any problems with DRM. That's not to say that won't be the case in the future, but right now DRM doesn't bother me one bit. For games like GTA4, where the developers put a lot of time and money into making a product that I genuinely and thoroughly enjoy, I don't mind paying it back to them.
I don't think all DRM complainers are looking for an excuse to pirate games, but at least some complainers are looking for an excuse. That small population should come clean with themselves. I regularly pirate games off and on, and it's merely what's most convenient to me at the time.
There's no "fight against entropy" here. No matter how much you can reduce entropy locally, you are FAR more greatly increasing entropy outside of your "local" system.
uhhh... why would a NEWS ARTICLE be cached? And if you were checking the latest news, you would be definition need to get an updated version of the site.
How many images do you see that wouldn't be cached? I count *four*. Now look at the entiiire screen and realize how many of these *would* be cached and reused again and again.
What I want to know is what happens when a technologically savvy government or organization decides to start spoofing aircraft in the air or modifying/jamming actual airplanes' signals. There will always be a radar backup, however, as long as we don't become dependent on the greater accuracy that these satellites provide us.
Think about what you're saying in light of someone like Dick Cheney getting control of an army like that.
You haven't heard yet? Dick Cheney's in the legislative branch*.;)
* There are actually some interesting arguments for the Veep not being in the executive branch, even in spite of the wording in the constitution. That is not the point of this point.;)
As an example, when I was in basic training we were specifically instructed that the.50 caliber machine gun could not be used against personnel; it was to be used only against equipment (Jeeps, APCs, mortars, helicopters), structures (gun emplacements, doors, ammo dumps), and so on. IIRC, this was a Geneva Convention restriction...
"...In a cross-border comparison for the year 2000, Statistics Canada says the risk of firearms death was more than three times as great for Canadian males as for American males and seven times as great for Canadian females as for American females.
Because more of the U.S. deaths were suicides or accidental deaths (as opposed to homicides), the U.S. rate of gun homicide was nearly eight times less than Canada's, the agency says. Homicides accounted for 38 per cent of deaths involving guns in the United States and 300 per cent in Canada."
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Yeah, but I decided to keep the joke closer with the actual story. Also, you're not going to be keeping up 88 arcseconds of panning per hour against the sky, considering the speed that the earth rotates.
If you ever visit Korean sites, they are chock full of ActiveX crap. If you ever want to be able to navigate them properly, your only chance is to run Internet Explorer.
If you use Firefox but need to use IE from time to time, I *highly* recommend the IE Tab Firefox Extension. I never used to use it because I figured it'd be too much of a bloat or hassle, but it really works *great*. I encourage you to use it if you ever have to open an IE window.
From the fucking article (don't worry, I didn't actually read any of it):
He used a piece of plastic ripped from his Flight Data File mission book and folded it into a teardrop-shape that's closed at one end. Surface tension inside the cup keeps the coffee from floating out and running amuck.
"The way this works is, the cross section of this cup looks like an airplane wing," he said. "The narrow angle here will wick the coffee up."
The result: space coffee in a zero-G cup.
The theory behind the novel coffee cup is the same one used by rockets to draw fuel into their engines while flying through weightless conditions in space, Pettit said.
Slashdot Mirror
I would never steal. ;)
The only work they have to show is Bryce 3D pictures and an ICP they released two years ago. It's too bad that the parent got modded up, because this is a project holding its fans together by only hype. Anybody can visit the forums to see this themselves. You're likely not to encounter anything except Bryce 3D renders, text from the guy working on Infinity describing all the features, and mostly fans themselves who are excited about all the features described.
"Infinity" is the most vaporware MMORPG out there. There is absolutely no substance. It is held together only by people who are gullible to its creator's fanciful promises about how awesome the game will be. I really can't put it any other way that that.
Having well-developed multiplayer gameplay does not mean that the game is inherently multiplayer-based. If you need your key refreshed for more installs, you can contact the company, for some inconvenience in exchange. If the company is gone, so is multiplayer. If multiplayer is gone, then you only have single player. If there's only singleplayer, then there's no reason NOT to crack it.
;)
Also, someone already wrote your post above, and I already responded to it once.
Thank you for this reply. I have not had any problems with Daemon Tools in any way (and my second DVD drive is physically disconnected). Perhaps I have been a lucky one, but seeing as how I have not personally been affected, it does not lower my eagerness to compensate Rockstar for this game.
Multiplayer are not the main focuses of either of these games. Something like BF2 is more along the lines of a "multiplayer game". People flock in droves to play single-player Spore and single-player GTA IV, however you would be very hard pressed to find people who bought BF2 for the single-player side of things.
I think people may be missing the human side of the problem. Let's say your an engineer and your manager comes to you and says "zomg! piratez! they r eatin ma soupz!" And being that you're the guy they're paying the big bucks to impliment features, it falls to you to stop people from "pirating". Now, being an engineer you know that there's no way to keep a game from being copied, but your boss is frothing at the mouth and pseudo-geek talk is coming out of his mouth while he runs through the office with a stack of trade magazines -- so you have to do something. So you call up Xyzzy company and tell your boss to pay them a lot of money and the problem goes away. Your boss collapes on his desk in a deep sigh of relief, signs away several million dollars, and -- blammo, SecuROM.
It's called "feel good security". It's the same kind of security you run into in large corporations. You know, you have to use a randomly generated 18 character alphanumeric password and it changes every 90 days... which is great except that when you go to do your timesheets you have to enter your LAN password... which goes over the wire plaintext encapsulated in an HTTP POST query. Oops. Also, because not everybody's memory is so great, it becomes common practice to keep the 18 character passwords written on sticky notes.
This is the true genesis of DRM... Ignorance and management fretting over money. It will be viewed as good as long as they "save" more money than it "costs" them.
who use piracy in lieu of a demo
I don't know about other people, but personally if I saw a cool game on Pirate Bay, after I've downloaded and installed it I will never buy the game, no matter how much I like it. It is simply an issue of convenience for me at that point. I don't feel like uninstalling the game, redownloading it, and reinstalling for no beneficial gain.
I have bought many games on Steam in the last couple of months (including FO3, Farcry 2, World of Goo, and now GTA IV) but if I have already downloaded a game to my PC, there's no way I'm going through the trouble of buying it and going through those steps again.
Spore and GTA IV are not multiplayer games, so there is no need to abstain from using a crack. In these two cases, you do not need to "reactivate" your key.
and find out that it won't activate?
The only reason I didn't download a crack was because I wanted to play the game in question online. It's hard to envision a scenario in which the parent company is gone yet I still want to play it online, hard enough to envision to the point where I do not mind shelling out money for a game that has this DRM.
The game is garbage. It was heavily gimped to fit on the 7 gigabyte 360 DVD format and no standard harddrive and the graphics are shit thanks to being downgraded to run on the weak 360 graphics hardware.
The PC version requires 18gb of disk space.
Not unless they have a version of SecuRom that doesn't screw up one's legitimate apps/activities like the current versions do...
What does it screw up? My personal anecdotal evidence is to the opposite.
I already read a blurb about it having SecuROM, but just like Spore, I don't really care. Spore ran fine without causing me any problems, and I've already pre-ordered GTA4 on Steam.
I recently ran into a problem with a different game having a five-install limit, and it took me an utterly annoying full week to get a new key through their message boards, but it finally went through. Aside from that one recent incident of a two-year-old game, I have never had any problems with DRM. That's not to say that won't be the case in the future, but right now DRM doesn't bother me one bit. For games like GTA4, where the developers put a lot of time and money into making a product that I genuinely and thoroughly enjoy, I don't mind paying it back to them.
I don't think all DRM complainers are looking for an excuse to pirate games, but at least some complainers are looking for an excuse. That small population should come clean with themselves. I regularly pirate games off and on, and it's merely what's most convenient to me at the time.
rebellion of life against universal decay
There's no "fight against entropy" here. No matter how much you can reduce entropy locally, you are FAR more greatly increasing entropy outside of your "local" system.
uhhh... why would a NEWS ARTICLE be cached? And if you were checking the latest news, you would be definition need to get an updated version of the site.
God damn Apple fan-boys
Are you kidding, man? Check out Pirates hijack chemical tanker off Somali
How many images do you see that wouldn't be cached? I count *four*. Now look at the entiiire screen and realize how many of these *would* be cached and reused again and again.
What I want to know is what happens when a technologically savvy government or organization decides to start spoofing aircraft in the air or modifying/jamming actual airplanes' signals. There will always be a radar backup, however, as long as we don't become dependent on the greater accuracy that these satellites provide us.
Simple. Allow me to introduce you to the future of law enforcement. ED 209.
Think about what you're saying in light of someone like Dick Cheney getting control of an army like that.
You haven't heard yet? Dick Cheney's in the legislative branch*. ;)
;)
* There are actually some interesting arguments for the Veep not being in the executive branch, even in spite of the wording in the constitution. That is not the point of this point.
As an example, when I was in basic training we were specifically instructed that the .50 caliber machine gun could not be used against personnel; it was to be used only against equipment (Jeeps, APCs, mortars, helicopters), structures (gun emplacements, doors, ammo dumps), and so on. IIRC, this was a Geneva Convention restriction ...
I was told the same thing in basic training, but it's not true. Here is my evidence: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1573 -- Read the third entry on the page. It is written by a real JAG officer.
All the people on that forum are vetted to be what they claim to be.
"...In a cross-border comparison for the year 2000, Statistics Canada says the risk of firearms death was more than three times as great for Canadian males as for American males and seven times as great for Canadian females as for American females.
Because more of the U.S. deaths were suicides or accidental deaths (as opposed to homicides), the U.S. rate of gun homicide was nearly eight times less than Canada's, the agency says. Homicides accounted for 38 per cent of deaths involving guns in the United States and 300 per cent in Canada."
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Yeah, but I decided to keep the joke closer with the actual story. Also, you're not going to be keeping up 88 arcseconds of panning per hour against the sky, considering the speed that the earth rotates.
If you ever visit Korean sites, they are chock full of ActiveX crap. If you ever want to be able to navigate them properly, your only chance is to run Internet Explorer.
If you use Firefox but need to use IE from time to time, I *highly* recommend the IE Tab Firefox Extension. I never used to use it because I figured it'd be too much of a bloat or hassle, but it really works *great*. I encourage you to use it if you ever have to open an IE window.
Our response depends on how soon it'll impact our planet.
1.41 jiggapixels, panning at 88 arcseconds per hour.
He used a piece of plastic ripped from his Flight Data File mission book and folded it into a teardrop-shape that's closed at one end. Surface tension inside the cup keeps the coffee from floating out and running amuck.
"The way this works is, the cross section of this cup looks like an airplane wing," he said. "The narrow angle here will wick the coffee up."
The result: space coffee in a zero-G cup.
The theory behind the novel coffee cup is the same one used by rockets to draw fuel into their engines while flying through weightless conditions in space, Pettit said.