I've been thinking it for a long time. Microsoft NEEDS to make their own hardware. They NEED the bubbled off environment that lets them make a good product. They NEED to stop trying to build for the lowest common denominator.
So let me get this straight. First of all, the only way MS has a chance of dictating the Windows hardware market to any serious degree is if they cut the OEMs off. So assuming that's what you are talking about, you're saying that MS needs to just cut off all the hardware makers, come out with their own expensive high-quality designs and then just like that everybody's going to start paying those prices and MS rides off into the sunset with the cash. Pardon me.
BWAHAHAHAHahahahahah....hahahahahaha....
Okay, are you still here? Remember what happened last time MS got caught with their pants down and left the low end of the market open? Netbooks happened. MS almost instantly extended the support of XP and dropped the OEM price to 15 dollars and less. And that was just to beat back little old Linpus Linux on craptastic netbooks. If they leave the bottom of the market, Google, Canonical, Valve, ChromeOS, Ubuntu, and Android will seize the day and swoop in so fast it will make Ballmer stop mid-dance and do a triple-take. You might as well stop dreaming now as MS isn't about to make that mistake again. Or are they?
I'm sure that with just a little support from the manufacturer Canonical will be happy to make Ubuntu run well on their machines.
I think that between Canonical, Google, Ubuntu, ChromeOS, Android and some pissed off former PC OEMs there's a market in there somewhere. Of course this could all be a ploy by Acer like what happened when MS bent over and started selling XP for 15 dollars a copy for netbooks when Linux got a little too close to the castle gates for comfort.
C) Sell something else. Most PC OEMs have other businesses even Acer. Think about vendors like Samsung and Sony. They could get dropped from MS tomorrow and still be banking.
There are more products available for Acer to manufacture than Android tablets and Windows PCs. They're heavy in the personal computing sector but in addition to owning the largest franchise retail chain in Taipei, they also make storage devices, displays, smartphones, projectors, televisions, and peripherals none of which are dependent on Microsoft's goodwill. In 2011 they only pulled in 200 million on 16 billion in revenue so PC sales are almost certainly not making them a ton of money anyway. They're in a tough spot but it isn't all doom and gloom even if they do stop making PCs.
Profits for PC integrators is already strained to the breaking point. The logical conclusion of what MS is doing here is that the OEMs will either diversify like Samsung and Sony or just one by one go under. MS has looked to Cupertino and seen the light. They see that 100 Billion dollar pile of cash Apple is sitting on and they have a pretty clear idea how they got it. And there is nothing Acer or Dell or anybody else can do because win32 is too deeply entrenched and we are nowhere near an heir apparent. WinRT is only available to the blessed chosen few and all MS has to do is just stop selling OEM copies of the desktop version. I'm not suggesting they are about to do this tomorrow but should they choose to, the "partners" that are dependent on PC sales to stay afloat are done.
he's one of the few bloggers generally releasing information and facts about the cases, patents, etc.
He wraps his "facts" in so much editorial spin to make them worthless to the layman which is what many of the media that cites him are directed towards. If you want facts about cases and patents it's all public record. The only thing he brings to the table is his opinions which are remarkably consistently wrong.
maybe I'm naive to think that once it ended up in court it was to be decided by the jury based on the evidence, not by what bloggers and journalist may or maybe not have been paid to write
Yes, you are naive actually. Read the order to avoid any further confusion or just keep reading this post for the relevant bits.
The Court is concerned that the parties and/or counsel herein may have retained or paid
print or internet authors, journalists, commentators or bloggers who have and/or may publish
comments on the issues in this case. Although proceedings in this matter are almost over, they
are not fully over yet and, in any event, the disclosure required by this order would be of use on
appeal or on any remand to make clear whether any treatise, article, commentary or analysis on
the issues posed by this case are possibly influenced by financial relationships to the parties or
counsel. Therefore, each side and its counsel shall file a statement herein clear identifying all
authors, journalists, commentators or bloggers who have reported or commented on any issues in
this case and who have received money (other than normal subscription fees) from the party or
its counsel during the pendency of this action. This disclosure shall be filed by NOON ON
FRIDAY, AUGUST 17, 2012.
Wow, if Julie Samuels is a paid Google shill then she sure has some 'splainin' to do. The next time you try to smear somebody maybe do a little research into what you're talking about.
Why wouldn't it be the same? Anonymous sources use the news media all the time to get a message out anonymously. It's really no different other then a dislike for one more then another.
There is precedent for the FTC coming down on shilling. It could be argued in court that paying bloggers to whitewash a brand is a "testimonial". I'm not a lawyer so I'm sure a good one could dream up all sorts of ways to unmask the miscreants legally.
The sweet taste of schadenfreude would still be satisfying for posters like Bonch, OverlyCriticalGuy, Westlake, RecoiledSnake, D'aldredge, et al to finally have to come clean.
You're not Mr. Bill Gates nor his peer. You cutting him down's laughable.
You're misunderstanding me, AC. I gather English isn't your first language so you might have difficulty picking up on the subtleties. My point was that what worked for Bill Gates would never work for regular people as Bill Gates functions on such a level that getting advice from him would be like trying to get advice from Brad Pitt on how to be stunningly handsome. So anything he would like say that you could use would be so general as to be practically worthless. Now if you were the head of some multi-billion dollar conglomerate then Bill Gate's advice might be priceless to you as you would actually be able to act on the specifics.
Yes, I've actually achieved some decent notoriety in the software programming arena over time a few times. Have you?
If you're already in the field then my suggestion doesn't apply to you. It was directed at "hobbyists" that are good enough to get a job doing what they love (programming) yet are intimidated by the actual process of doing what it takes to get that job. I don't know how to be any more plain so if you don't get it at this point then somebody else will have to chime in and help you.
Most advice Bill Gates could ever give you would likely be worthless. There can be only one Bill Gates and trying to emulate him would only lead you to disappointment. That goes for any hyper-achieving multi-billionaire vis-Ã-vis you. You will never be the man Steve Jobs was or any other titan in the tech industry. If you had that in you we wouldn't be having this conversation. The reason I shared a little bit of my story is that anybody on this site that lives in a free society can do what I did. There are burger flipping closet programmers right now that could hang up their apron by next month and be doing something they actually enjoy if they would just get off their asses and knock on a few doors. You don't have to care who I am but what I did was attainable and I've read a lot worse advice on here.
There isn't a whole lot I can add to the rebukes my sibling posters gave you but if competence at your sysadmin job could be faked between Google and random trivia then you aren't what I was talking about.
I went on a tear a few months ago and got something like 30 -1 flamebait/troll posts in a day and my karma went to terrible. Got 3 +5s a couple of days later and was back to good then got a couple of small upmods and was back to excellent. I've had a good past few days so this is probably a good time for me to let a couple of people have it.:)
Fucking loved this post. Like something from a postmodern cypherpunk noire novel. You should expand on it and I'm not even joking around. Don't waste your talent, man.
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I've been thinking it for a long time. Microsoft NEEDS to make their own hardware. They NEED the bubbled off environment that lets them make a good product. They NEED to stop trying to build for the lowest common denominator.
So let me get this straight. First of all, the only way MS has a chance of dictating the Windows hardware market to any serious degree is if they cut the OEMs off. So assuming that's what you are talking about, you're saying that MS needs to just cut off all the hardware makers, come out with their own expensive high-quality designs and then just like that everybody's going to start paying those prices and MS rides off into the sunset with the cash. Pardon me.
BWAHAHAHAHahahahahah....hahahahahaha....
Okay, are you still here? Remember what happened last time MS got caught with their pants down and left the low end of the market open? Netbooks happened. MS almost instantly extended the support of XP and dropped the OEM price to 15 dollars and less. And that was just to beat back little old Linpus Linux on craptastic netbooks. If they leave the bottom of the market, Google, Canonical, Valve, ChromeOS, Ubuntu, and Android will seize the day and swoop in so fast it will make Ballmer stop mid-dance and do a triple-take. You might as well stop dreaming now as MS isn't about to make that mistake again. Or are they?
I'm sure that with just a little support from the manufacturer Canonical will be happy to make Ubuntu run well on their machines.
I think that between Canonical, Google, Ubuntu, ChromeOS, Android and some pissed off former PC OEMs there's a market in there somewhere. Of course this could all be a ploy by Acer like what happened when MS bent over and started selling XP for 15 dollars a copy for netbooks when Linux got a little too close to the castle gates for comfort.
C) Sell something else. Most PC OEMs have other businesses even Acer. Think about vendors like Samsung and Sony. They could get dropped from MS tomorrow and still be banking.
Acer already makes a line of Android tablets.
There are more products available for Acer to manufacture than Android tablets and Windows PCs. They're heavy in the personal computing sector but in addition to owning the largest franchise retail chain in Taipei, they also make storage devices, displays, smartphones, projectors, televisions, and peripherals none of which are dependent on Microsoft's goodwill. In 2011 they only pulled in 200 million on 16 billion in revenue so PC sales are almost certainly not making them a ton of money anyway. They're in a tough spot but it isn't all doom and gloom even if they do stop making PCs.
Profits for PC integrators is already strained to the breaking point. The logical conclusion of what MS is doing here is that the OEMs will either diversify like Samsung and Sony or just one by one go under. MS has looked to Cupertino and seen the light. They see that 100 Billion dollar pile of cash Apple is sitting on and they have a pretty clear idea how they got it. And there is nothing Acer or Dell or anybody else can do because win32 is too deeply entrenched and we are nowhere near an heir apparent. WinRT is only available to the blessed chosen few and all MS has to do is just stop selling OEM copies of the desktop version. I'm not suggesting they are about to do this tomorrow but should they choose to, the "partners" that are dependent on PC sales to stay afloat are done.
geek.net needs to get on that stat.
he's one of the few bloggers generally releasing information and facts about the cases, patents, etc.
He wraps his "facts" in so much editorial spin to make them worthless to the layman which is what many of the media that cites him are directed towards. If you want facts about cases and patents it's all public record. The only thing he brings to the table is his opinions which are remarkably consistently wrong.
Heh. Could'a would'a should'a. She just got married a couple of weeks ago. Oh well.
maybe I'm naive to think that once it ended up in court it was to be decided by the jury based on the evidence, not by what bloggers and journalist may or maybe not have been paid to write
Yes, you are naive actually. Read the order to avoid any further confusion or just keep reading this post for the relevant bits.
The Court is concerned that the parties and/or counsel herein may have retained or paid print or internet authors, journalists, commentators or bloggers who have and/or may publish comments on the issues in this case. Although proceedings in this matter are almost over, they are not fully over yet and, in any event, the disclosure required by this order would be of use on appeal or on any remand to make clear whether any treatise, article, commentary or analysis on the issues posed by this case are possibly influenced by financial relationships to the parties or counsel. Therefore, each side and its counsel shall file a statement herein clear identifying all authors, journalists, commentators or bloggers who have reported or commented on any issues in this case and who have received money (other than normal subscription fees) from the party or its counsel during the pendency of this action. This disclosure shall be filed by NOON ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 17, 2012.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Dated: August 7, 2012.
WILLIAM ALSUP
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
Wow, if Julie Samuels is a paid Google shill then she sure has some 'splainin' to do. The next time you try to smear somebody maybe do a little research into what you're talking about.
Why wouldn't it be the same? Anonymous sources use the news media all the time to get a message out anonymously. It's really no different other then a dislike for one more then another.
There is precedent for the FTC coming down on shilling. It could be argued in court that paying bloggers to whitewash a brand is a "testimonial". I'm not a lawyer so I'm sure a good one could dream up all sorts of ways to unmask the miscreants legally.
I love this judge.
The sweet taste of schadenfreude would still be satisfying for posters like Bonch, OverlyCriticalGuy, Westlake, RecoiledSnake, D'aldredge, et al to finally have to come clean.
I hope this goes all the way through. It'll be better than when Anonymous threatened to out the Mexican cartel collaborators.
Actually it was a two day offtopic war with apk over host files. You'd have had to have been there.
You're not Mr. Bill Gates nor his peer. You cutting him down's laughable.
You're misunderstanding me, AC. I gather English isn't your first language so you might have difficulty picking up on the subtleties. My point was that what worked for Bill Gates would never work for regular people as Bill Gates functions on such a level that getting advice from him would be like trying to get advice from Brad Pitt on how to be stunningly handsome. So anything he would like say that you could use would be so general as to be practically worthless. Now if you were the head of some multi-billion dollar conglomerate then Bill Gate's advice might be priceless to you as you would actually be able to act on the specifics.
Yes, I've actually achieved some decent notoriety in the software programming arena over time a few times. Have you?
If you're already in the field then my suggestion doesn't apply to you. It was directed at "hobbyists" that are good enough to get a job doing what they love (programming) yet are intimidated by the actual process of doing what it takes to get that job. I don't know how to be any more plain so if you don't get it at this point then somebody else will have to chime in and help you.
So you have a team for your team so you can work together while you work together?
I can say I am Bill Gates you know.
Most advice Bill Gates could ever give you would likely be worthless. There can be only one Bill Gates and trying to emulate him would only lead you to disappointment. That goes for any hyper-achieving multi-billionaire vis-Ã-vis you. You will never be the man Steve Jobs was or any other titan in the tech industry. If you had that in you we wouldn't be having this conversation. The reason I shared a little bit of my story is that anybody on this site that lives in a free society can do what I did. There are burger flipping closet programmers right now that could hang up their apron by next month and be doing something they actually enjoy if they would just get off their asses and knock on a few doors. You don't have to care who I am but what I did was attainable and I've read a lot worse advice on here.
I don't feel your advice is worth taking.
Then it isn't. That's the beauty of it.
Somebody mod this up for the win.
Heh. Figures I'd miss something. That screen looks like it'd be pretty easy to detach though.
There isn't a whole lot I can add to the rebukes my sibling posters gave you but if competence at your sysadmin job could be faked between Google and random trivia then you aren't what I was talking about.
I'm not an Apple apologist but was anybody doing anything that could really be compared to a modern all-in-one before this?
I went on a tear a few months ago and got something like 30 -1 flamebait/troll posts in a day and my karma went to terrible. Got 3 +5s a couple of days later and was back to good then got a couple of small upmods and was back to excellent. I've had a good past few days so this is probably a good time for me to let a couple of people have it. :)
Gutting older Jaguars and installing Chevy V8's is fairly common actually. It's a reliability thing.
Fucking loved this post. Like something from a postmodern cypherpunk noire novel. You should expand on it and I'm not even joking around. Don't waste your talent, man.