Bingo! This is my biggest single gripe with FLOSS developers/projects in the nearly 15+ years I've used such software. The arrogance of developers to say, "It's open source -- go fix it yourself" is just astonishing
I know, right?
I saw somebody give this other somebody a million dollars the other day and the other somebody complained because the money was so heavy as he was carrying it away. How arrogant was it for that giver to actually expect the taker to have to carry all of that money? The first guy should have carried the money for him. And should probably have let the guy fuck his wife too. Some people!
Most people are buying this to either 1. Make themselves feel better about supporting indie games 2. because the idea is novel I'm sure a few actually like the games.
Do you have any corroborating evidence to support this?
But I tried it out once and most of the games were pretty bad.
But I tried it out every time and most of the games were pretty good.
Either way they should slow down the number of bundles they're releasing. The novelty factor is dropping quickly.
Breakdown of sales figures:
Humble Indie Bundle #1: $1.27 million
Humble Indie Bundle #2: $1.8 million
Humble Frozenbyte Bundle (note the lack of "Indie" in the name): $700,000
Humble Indie Bundle #3: $2.17 million.
Contrary to your uninformed assertions, it looks like sales are on a phenomenal upward trajectory considering the nature of the enterprise. I'm sure they'll take your opinion into account before they make their next move though.
Because.NET helps you to be productive in programming for the OS with 90% of market?
First of all, windows does not have 90 percent "of market". The world of computing is much larger than the desktop in case you hadn't noticed. The fastest growing segment of computing is mobile and the fastest growing mobile OS by far is Android. Almost all of the official documentation for Android assumes you are programming in Java. Also, as far as business infrastructure goes, Java is very big. Of course, via Mono, C# apps will run on many platforms but I guess you didn't notice that either.
Because the app store, sandboxed apps and a rigorously defined touch-oriented UI makes perfect sense for mobile devices?
What does an app store intrinsically have to do with.Net? The most profitable app stores use Objective C and Java. As far as a rigorously touch-oriented OS is concerned, have you noticed how much of a failure windows phone is with Metro? The mass market has rejected it and the devices sit collecting dust on retailer's shelves worldwide. If that's the model you are going for on your desk/tab top, you might not want to be so sure of yourself.
--- and may make perfect sense for the mass market touch screen desktop or touch controller?
Nothing you've said supports this conclusion in any way.
I used to do the bi-monthly schlep to my mother's house to clean off the latest Google-results-hijack/adware/trojans du jour. Finally one day I told her, "I got something for ya." Installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and haven't had a problem since. She's one very happy Linux user.
They'll get their teeth kicked in with prior art if they even try to touch LibreOffice should the respective developers lose their minds and implement a ribbon.
What can your standalone application actually do that my Python script can't? A python script requiring a runtime is a pretty silly criticism when ultimately everything on your computer requires something else. I get paid for results and for me, python gets me those results and fast. And if there is a hotspot in my code that requires more speed than python offers, I just write it in C. With Python, C libraries can be seamlessly imported and used. It's the best of both worlds.
The criticisms aren't so much out of line. The fact that this poster has a brand new account, gets a regular first post, is almost always critical of open source and praising of Microsoft, and has a pretty much cookie cutter m.o. of the people mentioned in the GP's comment could easily lead a reasonable person to conclude that the entire purpose of the tech4 account is to astroturf. We'll see if this account flames out in a few weeks like the others did only to be followed by a new one with the same 4 or 5 letters and number username combination.
Well, coming from a Python coder's perspective, I'll put it like this. Python's runtime isn't the fastest but the GUI toolkits used with it are usually either written in C (Gtk) or C++ (Qt) and my Python programs appear to run much faster than the equivalent Java program using its native Swing because the ui is just so much snappier. It really must be mostly a graphical toolkit issue. Anecdotally, Android apps are generally coded in Java (albeit Dalvik bytecode) and the applications on my Nexus S run blazingly fast.
What am I doing wrong then that LibreOffice feels positively snappy on my Thinkpad with a T7400 core 2 duo running Ubuntu 11.10? I stick mostly to Calc and Writer. Is the problem elsewhere?
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Bingo! This is my biggest single gripe with FLOSS developers/projects in the nearly 15+ years I've used such software. The arrogance of developers to say, "It's open source -- go fix it yourself" is just astonishing
I know, right?
I saw somebody give this other somebody a million dollars the other day and the other somebody complained because the money was so heavy as he was carrying it away. How arrogant was it for that giver to actually expect the taker to have to carry all of that money? The first guy should have carried the money for him. And should probably have let the guy fuck his wife too. Some people!
BTW, you're an idiot.
Maybe you should find the people who are doing that and complain to them about it. Flapping your "gums" on Slashdot isn't going to do much.
Most people are buying this to either 1. Make themselves feel better about supporting indie games 2. because the idea is novel I'm sure a few actually like the games.
Do you have any corroborating evidence to support this?
But I tried it out once and most of the games were pretty bad.
But I tried it out every time and most of the games were pretty good.
Either way they should slow down the number of bundles they're releasing. The novelty factor is dropping quickly.
Breakdown of sales figures:
Humble Indie Bundle #1: $1.27 million
Humble Indie Bundle #2: $1.8 million
Humble Frozenbyte Bundle (note the lack of "Indie" in the name): $700,000
Humble Indie Bundle #3: $2.17 million.
Contrary to your uninformed assertions, it looks like sales are on a phenomenal upward trajectory considering the nature of the enterprise. I'm sure they'll take your opinion into account before they make their next move though.
This is insightful.
Because .NET helps you to be productive in programming for the OS with 90% of market?
First of all, windows does not have 90 percent "of market". The world of computing is much larger than the desktop in case you hadn't noticed. The fastest growing segment of computing is mobile and the fastest growing mobile OS by far is Android. Almost all of the official documentation for Android assumes you are programming in Java. Also, as far as business infrastructure goes, Java is very big. Of course, via Mono, C# apps will run on many platforms but I guess you didn't notice that either.
Because the app store, sandboxed apps and a rigorously defined touch-oriented UI makes perfect sense for mobile devices?
What does an app store intrinsically have to do with .Net? The most profitable app stores use Objective C and Java. As far as a rigorously touch-oriented OS is concerned, have you noticed how much of a failure windows phone is with Metro? The mass market has rejected it and the devices sit collecting dust on retailer's shelves worldwide. If that's the model you are going for on your desk/tab top, you might not want to be so sure of yourself.
--- and may make perfect sense for the mass market touch screen desktop or touch controller?
Nothing you've said supports this conclusion in any way.
Er, Google hasn't targeted any of the Nexus line at the mainstream buyer. What the fuck makes you think they would start now?
Apple makes 66% of all mobile phone profit.
Does it give you the warm and fuzzies that Apple makes a lot of money? Personally, I couldn't give a shit less.
Higher performance? By what measure?
How's this for starters?
Today, you is what i like least about Slashdot.
It is running Winsows XP, stupid. Read the article.
Sooo... kind of like what happened with PlaysForSure?
Actually, no.
Why is this not +5 informative?
Sent from my iPad.
And if you think that would be bad, imagine giving them a Windows CD.
Your user account is a disservice to Slashdot.
I used to do the bi-monthly schlep to my mother's house to clean off the latest Google-results-hijack/adware/trojans du jour. Finally one day I told her, "I got something for ya." Installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and haven't had a problem since. She's one very happy Linux user.
You must have me confused with someone else you are having this argument with as I didn't even say the word desktop.
They'll get their teeth kicked in with prior art if they even try to touch LibreOffice should the respective developers lose their minds and implement a ribbon.
I was talking about Xfce. /s
What can your standalone application actually do that my Python script can't? A python script requiring a runtime is a pretty silly criticism when ultimately everything on your computer requires something else. I get paid for results and for me, python gets me those results and fast. And if there is a hotspot in my code that requires more speed than python offers, I just write it in C. With Python, C libraries can be seamlessly imported and used. It's the best of both worlds.
Why isn't it a real language?
The criticisms aren't so much out of line. The fact that this poster has a brand new account, gets a regular first post, is almost always critical of open source and praising of Microsoft, and has a pretty much cookie cutter m.o. of the people mentioned in the GP's comment could easily lead a reasonable person to conclude that the entire purpose of the tech4 account is to astroturf. We'll see if this account flames out in a few weeks like the others did only to be followed by a new one with the same 4 or 5 letters and number username combination.
Well, coming from a Python coder's perspective, I'll put it like this. Python's runtime isn't the fastest but the GUI toolkits used with it are usually either written in C (Gtk) or C++ (Qt) and my Python programs appear to run much faster than the equivalent Java program using its native Swing because the ui is just so much snappier. It really must be mostly a graphical toolkit issue. Anecdotally, Android apps are generally coded in Java (albeit Dalvik bytecode) and the applications on my Nexus S run blazingly fast.
It's no wonder open source isn't going anywhere
That's some pretty serious denial you got going on there.
What am I doing wrong then that LibreOffice feels positively snappy on my Thinkpad with a T7400 core 2 duo running Ubuntu 11.10? I stick mostly to Calc and Writer. Is the problem elsewhere?