We had this problem in the middle ages. Instead of actually selling things at best price, merchants tried to get special status, favors, patents, grants and the like.
The cost of getting it to earth would be more then its value. If you had an economy on the system, the metal would be so abundant that it wouldn't pay the cost to get there.
Intelligent design is easily falsifiable.
You put a bunch of computer parts in a room by itself, come back the next day, and nothing is built.
You put a hacker in a room with a bunch of computer parts, and the next day a computer is built.
It will come out that way every time.
I haven't quoted the above message, since there is nothing of substance in it.
However, the Roman Catholic church has never used the bible as its highest authority. The word of the pope and the magistrum is of higher authority then the bible, and there the doctrine of papal infallibility. The opinions of the fathers of the church, church councils, church traditions, are are held higher then the Holy Bible. And the pope is of course infallible. And even after all that, the whole bible itself is given as much equal treatement as the aprochrapha, books of doubtful authenticity.
For example, the roman catholic catechism says that the Sabbath was moved from saturday to sunday by its own authority.
Worshiping on the seventh day is one of the ten commandments, written by the hand of God!
No, I take exception to the sneaky implication that the Roman Catholic church has ever cared about the word of God. The bible alone was the slogan of the reformers, as well as we worship the pope as God and kiss his foot might have been the slogan of the Catholic church, if they thought the people around them would have tolerated it.
I can't find the funny part.
I don't think your beliefs are unusual for Catholics, and I've heard from many people that have been taught similar things in Catholic sunday school and schools.
Most devout Protestants, which the vocal creationists tend to be, would hesitate to include Catholics as Christians.
Its a way to keep protestants occupied, so they don't stick to the issue, which is the pope is the antichrist.
I'll stick to that. The pope is the antichrist! The Roman Catholic church is the great whore with a million father priests! Always has been, as predicted in prophecy. http://home.fuse.net/gospel
Stick to that, and I bet you will see a lot less of these type of stories (and stories about pedophile priests in the news as well).
But biology? There are a thousand different opinions on this thread alone.
Nice link. I didn't know the pope had decreed evolution is more then a hypothesis.
In like vein, in the early part of this century, the pope attacked the public education system.
Why would the pope attack the public school system, and try to drive a wedge between it and non-catholic christians? (The early school system in American was heavily protestant influenced).
Because controling the school systems makes it easier to control people. In Boston, I talked to a few of the people who went to Roman Catholic schools their when the pedophile scandal started - they said they had been taught that earlier americans were bigots for says that the Roman Catholic church was involved in such scandals, and yet these where a thousand times worse and that they had been lied to. In my area, which is heavily Roman Catholic, all books on the inquistions have disappeared from the libraries! Unbelievable? I talked to someone across the country, and he couldn't find any books left in his library either.
Its the same roman catholic schools that have been raping kids. School vouchers for religious organzations? The roman catholic schools will benefit the most, and they are already having a terriable effect.
The roman catholic church is not a small congregation on the end of the street with 60 members. Its one of the largest organzations in the world, all of it is ultimately controlled by one man at the top, the pope, who sits in the vatican which is considered its own country, has its own bank and its own diplomatic and sovereign immununity (Diplomatic immunity that has been used to stop two investigations into murder, bank fraud, and the pedophile scandals in the last few years). Its one of the richest and most powerful organizations in the world, and the only religion that sits on the UN. Does your local 60 member protestant church get to sit on the UN? No, the local 60 member protestant church is probably told that "state and religion" should be seperated, by people getting their chains yanked by catholics, who meanwhile merrily go along and try to build another one world government.
The roman catholic church could very well create anouther dark ages. The evidence that such could occur is if the laws stop applying to them. The evidence that such is occuring is in the news everday, the laws aren't beening applied to them.
Actually, I believe He created the heavens and earth in six days, and rested on the seventh day.
This is quite apart from believing that macro evolution is a hypothesis as to a means to explain the origin of life. I would believe this regardless of being saved or not, since it is clearly not well proven.
Yes, that is true. The Roman Catholic church also caused the dark ages, and the pope claimes to be God on earth.
While you're kissing the foot and ring of the "holy fathers" of the Roman Catholic church, it may be interested to be reminded of that. Delegating a man "god on earth" may well be related to believing that man "created himself". (And hence, some men are better then others, instead of "All men are created equal by their Creator, as in the words of the American Declaration.)
"When will the people who want to put stickers like this in textbooks get the clue that trying to put science under the purvue of religion is a bad idea. Remember what happened to Galileo? "
Yes, the catholic church attacked him.. Galileo got off easier compared to all the Christians the Roman Catholic church burned at the stake.
Macro-evolution isn't even a theory, it is a hypothesis. As far as breeding goes, even the old testament mentions that.
However, I won't discuss the mathematical improbility of macro-evolution occuring, when most people aren't even right to begin with. The Roman Catholic church has been caught raping tens of thousands of kids in the last couple of years, thousands of priests are involved - and the list of times its been hauled into court, criminally investigated, caught bribing people, caught hiding evidence. Its priests have even been caught murdering people at least six times, and several priests have been on genocide charges in different countries, all in the last couple of years.
For these people to be arguing over STICKERS and doing absolutely nothing about the former, is absolutely evil. I believe God created the heavens and the earth in seven days, but I believe people despise God because of their own evil that they want to hide. Why should I argue about evolution, when the pack of lies you are telling is more easier demonstrated elsewhere, like your incredable hypocricy in dealing with the rapes of kids?
Who is hiding the pedophile scandal and the rest of the miserable evil of this unrepetent society? No one. Its plain to see. I won't enter an argument that helps you divert attention from your own sins.
Its called a cross when the catholic priest baptizes you, or as the catachism puts it makes in "indelible" mark in the soul, born by the will of men, not born again by God.
Many reformers have believed that this is what the mark of the beast is, including me. How many people does the Roman Catholic church have to murder, how many inquisitions does it have to hold, and how many children does it have to rape until its the great whore? And before that, its just an acceptable, everyday normal number?? (really..)
People, wake up from your superstititions. The antichrist is right in front of your face. That which is against Christ's gospel, taught wherever the bible is taught, is antichrist. Almost 2000 years of bloodshed, darkages, and unholy roman empires and counting.
FYI: At this time, calling a long distance bbs cost just as using compuserve, about 6 dollars. I always thought that was interesting. I guess it was my first exposure to marketing..
My first direct experiences with computers came through school. First from field trips to the local Christmas train show, where the local utility company ran the display on a really interesting looking computer, and gave the kids ASCII art printouts after the tour. My second early memory is from a gifted program in 1st-3rd grade, where we had access to a Pet computer (if memory serves). Alas, access to that was ended because I was in the program for reading (I was reading on the adult level at that time), and they ended the reading, but not the mathematic program.
Two things I think can be learned from that. One, giving kids early experience with computers is really important. Two, since I did have mathematical ability as later demonstrated, and a lifelong interest in computers, not giving kids access to programs when they show interest is not a good thing.
From there I remember buying a popular electronics (?) magazine in 1981(?) with many articles and ads about computers and reading it over and over again. I was determined to get a computer at that point, and soon I had a Timex Sinclair. Power!:)
After awhile, I graduated to a C64. At first I only had a tape drive, but eventually I had a disk drive, and a modem too - which had autodial, but it was pulse! Lol, 300 baud, those where the days. Having a modem opened up the computer world, as I was able to connect to other people interested in computers. I remember pouring over listings in computer shopper (?) and CompuServe, and calling long distance boards until I finally found local BBS's. At that point, my fate was sealed. FYI I still remember Adventure from CompuServe, and Zork afterwards on the C64 and Apples at school. Those Text adventures should be revived, maybe with voice input/ recognization, because they came closest to the way computers should interact with people, by verbal commands.
I think from that that communication, being able to connect, and well written manuals (that C64 manual was well written btw) is important for growth.
Also, co-operative spirit is good. I still remember some of the most helpful people at the time, like the person who spent a lot of time giving me an xmodem listing in basic, so I could use it to transfer over a better terminal then I had, or the ham radio operator of the grocery chain based locally who ran a bbs.
Also, like organizations and being able to get together can be important, like the chess club, or the L5 society, or the computer club. Good entertainment promoting the occupation can't hurt either, like star trek, or star wars.
Lastly, it was a good bet that I'd be interested and exposed to computers. My father was an aerospace engineer for McDonald Douglas before the layoffs in the 70s, and sold mainframe and mini computers for a long time after that, and my mother finished a computer science degree in the early 80s and worked as a computer operator at the time. I still remember logging onto the Vax system at her college. Recently, I found some old transcripts from my grandmother and found out that she took computer programming classes in the 60s (with A's), so it probably runs in the family!:)
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We had this problem in the middle ages. Instead of actually selling things at best price, merchants tried to get special status, favors, patents, grants and the like.
The cost of getting it to earth would be more then its value. If you had an economy on the system, the metal would be so abundant that it wouldn't pay the cost to get there.
Intelligent design is easily falsifiable. You put a bunch of computer parts in a room by itself, come back the next day, and nothing is built. You put a hacker in a room with a bunch of computer parts, and the next day a computer is built. It will come out that way every time.
I haven't quoted the above message, since there is nothing of substance in it.
However, the Roman Catholic church has never used the bible as its highest authority. The word of the pope and the magistrum is of higher authority then the bible, and there the doctrine of papal infallibility. The opinions of the fathers of the church, church councils, church traditions, are are held higher then the Holy Bible. And the pope is of course infallible. And even after all that, the whole bible itself is given as much equal treatement as the aprochrapha, books of doubtful authenticity.
For example, the roman catholic catechism says that the Sabbath was moved from saturday to sunday by its own authority.
Worshiping on the seventh day is one of the ten commandments, written by the hand of God!
No, I take exception to the sneaky implication that the Roman Catholic church has ever cared about the word of God. The bible alone was the slogan of the reformers, as well as we worship the pope as God and kiss his foot might have been the slogan of the Catholic church, if they thought the people around them would have tolerated it.
Its a way to keep protestants occupied, so they don't stick to the issue, which is the pope is the antichrist.
I'll stick to that. The pope is the antichrist! The Roman Catholic church is the great whore with a million father priests! Always has been, as predicted in prophecy. http://home.fuse.net/gospel
Stick to that, and I bet you will see a lot less of these type of stories (and stories about pedophile priests in the news as well).
But biology? There are a thousand different opinions on this thread alone.
Nice link. I didn't know the pope had decreed evolution is more then a hypothesis.
In like vein, in the early part of this century, the pope attacked the public education system.
Why would the pope attack the public school system, and try to drive a wedge between it and non-catholic christians? (The early school system in American was heavily protestant influenced).
Because controling the school systems makes it easier to control people. In Boston, I talked to a few of the people who went to Roman Catholic schools their when the pedophile scandal started - they said they had been taught that earlier americans were bigots for says that the Roman Catholic church was involved in such scandals, and yet these where a thousand times worse and that they had been lied to. In my area, which is heavily Roman Catholic, all books on the inquistions have disappeared from the libraries! Unbelievable? I talked to someone across the country, and he couldn't find any books left in his library either.
Its the same roman catholic schools that have been raping kids. School vouchers for religious organzations? The roman catholic schools will benefit the most, and they are already having a terriable effect.
The roman catholic church is not a small congregation on the end of the street with 60 members. Its one of the largest organzations in the world, all of it is ultimately controlled by one man at the top, the pope, who sits in the vatican which is considered its own country, has its own bank and its own diplomatic and sovereign immununity (Diplomatic immunity that has been used to stop two investigations into murder, bank fraud, and the pedophile scandals in the last few years). Its one of the richest and most powerful organizations in the world, and the only religion that sits on the UN. Does your local 60 member protestant church get to sit on the UN? No, the local 60 member protestant church is probably told that "state and religion" should be seperated, by people getting their chains yanked by catholics, who meanwhile merrily go along and try to build another one world government.
The roman catholic church could very well create anouther dark ages. The evidence that such could occur is if the laws stop applying to them. The evidence that such is occuring is in the news everday, the laws aren't beening applied to them.
Actually, I believe He created the heavens and earth in six days, and rested on the seventh day. This is quite apart from believing that macro evolution is a hypothesis as to a means to explain the origin of life. I would believe this regardless of being saved or not, since it is clearly not well proven.
Yes, that is true. The Roman Catholic church also caused the dark ages, and the pope claimes to be God on earth.
While you're kissing the foot and ring of the "holy fathers" of the Roman Catholic church, it may be interested to be reminded of that. Delegating a man "god on earth" may well be related to believing that man "created himself". (And hence, some men are better then others, instead of "All men are created equal by their Creator, as in the words of the American Declaration.)
"When will the people who want to put stickers like this in textbooks get the clue that trying to put science under the purvue of religion is a bad idea. Remember what happened to Galileo? "
Yes, the catholic church attacked him.. Galileo got off easier compared to all the Christians the Roman Catholic church burned at the stake.
Macro-evolution isn't even a theory, it is a hypothesis. As far as breeding goes, even the old testament mentions that.
However, I won't discuss the mathematical improbility of macro-evolution occuring, when most people aren't even right to begin with. The Roman Catholic church has been caught raping tens of thousands of kids in the last couple of years, thousands of priests are involved - and the list of times its been hauled into court, criminally investigated, caught bribing people, caught hiding evidence. Its priests have even been caught murdering people at least six times, and several priests have been on genocide charges in different countries, all in the last couple of years.
For these people to be arguing over STICKERS and doing absolutely nothing about the former, is absolutely evil. I believe God created the heavens and the earth in seven days, but I believe people despise God because of their own evil that they want to hide. Why should I argue about evolution, when the pack of lies you are telling is more easier demonstrated elsewhere, like your incredable hypocricy in dealing with the rapes of kids?
Who is hiding the pedophile scandal and the rest of the miserable evil of this unrepetent society?
No one. Its plain to see. I won't enter an argument that helps you divert attention from your own sins.
Its called a cross when the catholic priest baptizes you, or as the catachism puts it makes in "indelible" mark in the soul, born by the will of men, not born again by God.
Many reformers have believed that this is what the mark of the beast is, including me. How many people does the Roman Catholic church have to murder, how many inquisitions does it have to hold, and how many children does it have to rape until its the great whore? And before that, its just an acceptable, everyday normal number?? (really..)
People, wake up from your superstititions. The antichrist is right in front of your face. That which is against Christ's gospel, taught wherever the bible is taught, is antichrist. Almost 2000 years of bloodshed, darkages, and unholy roman empires and counting.
Revelation of Jesus Christ gospel site:
http://home.fuse.net/gospel
http://210.91.86.38/view/index.shtml
Randomly tried one from a google slope and found a ski slope with people skiing. How neat.
FYI: At this time, calling a long distance bbs cost just as using compuserve, about 6 dollars. I always thought that was interesting. I guess it was my first exposure to marketing..
My first direct experiences with computers came through school. First from field trips to the local Christmas train show, where the local utility company ran the display on a really interesting looking computer, and gave the kids ASCII art printouts after the tour. My second early memory is from a gifted program in 1st-3rd grade, where we had access to a Pet computer (if memory serves). Alas, access to that was ended because I was in the program for reading (I was reading on the adult level at that time), and they ended the reading, but not the mathematic program.
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Two things I think can be learned from that. One, giving kids early experience with computers is really important. Two, since I did have mathematical ability as later demonstrated, and a lifelong interest in computers, not giving kids access to programs when they show interest is not a good thing.
From there I remember buying a popular electronics (?) magazine in 1981(?) with many articles and ads about computers and reading it over and over again. I was determined to get a computer at that point, and soon I had a Timex Sinclair. Power!
After awhile, I graduated to a C64. At first I only had a tape drive, but eventually I had a disk drive, and a modem too - which had autodial, but it was pulse! Lol, 300 baud, those where the days. Having a modem opened up the computer world, as I was able to connect to other people interested in computers. I remember pouring over listings in computer shopper (?) and CompuServe, and calling long distance boards until I finally found local BBS's. At that point, my fate was sealed. FYI I still remember Adventure from CompuServe, and Zork afterwards on the C64 and Apples at school. Those Text adventures should be revived, maybe with voice input/ recognization, because they came closest to the way computers should interact with people, by verbal commands.
I think from that that communication, being able to connect, and well written manuals (that C64 manual was well written btw) is important for growth.
Also, co-operative spirit is good. I still remember some of the most helpful people at the time, like the person who spent a lot of time giving me an xmodem listing in basic, so I could use it to transfer over a better terminal then I had, or the ham radio operator of the grocery chain based locally who ran a bbs.
Also, like organizations and being able to get together can be important, like the chess club, or the L5 society, or the computer club. Good entertainment promoting the occupation can't hurt either, like star trek, or star wars.
Lastly, it was a good bet that I'd be interested and exposed to computers. My father was an aerospace engineer for McDonald Douglas before the layoffs in the 70s, and sold mainframe and mini computers for a long time after that, and my mother finished a computer science degree in the early 80s and worked as a computer operator at the time. I still remember logging onto the Vax system at her college. Recently, I found some old transcripts from my grandmother and found out that she took computer programming classes in the 60s (with A's), so it probably runs in the family!