All this about who is better, US or UN is not relevant to the article. The question is who would be better handling domain names and IP address for the world. ICAAN or ITU?
I believe ICAAN is doing a fine job. Why fix something that is not broke? ICAAN is not a department of the US Government, but ITU is a department of the UN Government. ICAAN is an internationally incorporated non-profit. If the UN takes over the role of ICAAN you can bet we would be removing domains and domain names from the private business world and putting it in the hands of governments around the world.
I do not see how small dictatorships or China running all the domains for there assigned nation could possibly help progress free thought exchange now being used on the Internet.
Example: All China IP's will start with 86.10 (Beijing) (using phone codes). Then the China government can stop any domain from its government run/regulated ISP's from allowing any non- China approved country code. What we will have is huge communication blockades.
Why is this good ????? Please explain???
4. Verizon and Sprint both use Qualcomm's CDMA2000 standard. It's not GSM, but it's not a non "Open Standard" per se.
The whole world uses GSM Open Standard. Qualcomm's CDMA2000 although can produce some of the same bandwith, you can not take your phone overseas. If everyone used GSM standard (GSM, GPRS Edge UMTS) www.gsmworld.com - then phone companies and other services providers would have an easier time providing better service for us the customer.
I do not work in Marketing and am unconcerned with current pricing. But that being said.
My post was directed at the future of Cingular not the current state. As I work in the Network Operations for data applications.
In less then 2 years you will see 100+ mb transmitions. The current status of UMTS may be 14mbps is still 12mbps faster then my cable modem.
Does T-Mobile have anything even close to UMTS?
Correction its SouthWestern Bell
slight corrections (Score:2)
by Ohreally_factor (593551) on Tuesday February 08, @05:54AM (#11604996)
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SBC is one of the original Baby Bells, and used to be named Southwestern Bell Company. They changed it to SBC Communications Inc. and had an ad campaign about it not too long ago.
With the 3G and 4G plans at Cingular and the parent company SBC you will use them for all your needs. Via UMTS you will have 100mb+ wireless data connections. This is currently only in 4 markets and it will take a year before more markets are included because of the mergers.
It is the main reason for all the SBC/ATT mergers. SBC is planning on providing VOIP for your Cell phone. Stick with us we are leading the way in technology. Cingular is on the GSM model... find out more on the http://www.gsmworld.com website.
Also if you get a chance see who is running the "Americas" GSM migration plan.
T-Mobil also uses GSM but they are far behind Cingular. Verison Sprint and Nextel all use proprietary protocols not GSM Open Standards.
"The regional bells will not go quietly into that good night."
"Of course they won't go quietly, but the competition will benefit the consumer with lower prices and more features. There was something to be said for the stability of old Ma Bell, but I think most people would agree they like having the choices and competition that have come with deregulation."
SBC Southern Bell Corp. They are Ma'Bell!! They also own Cingular who purchased ATT-Wireless and are now purchasing ATT. They are trying to re-unite the old company for more services.
"what the phone companies are going to try and do about this? I can see them charging long distance to people with the VoIP area codes"
SBC IS a local phone company... Southern Bell Corp. They are buying ATT. Cingular already purchased ATT-Wireless. SBC is the parent company of Cingular.
"Now the future as I see it is using something similiar to Skype, or VOIP technology to enable this as a way that i can be making calls through my computer, and paying for a GPRS connection that is always on."
Right. With the 3G and 4G plans at Cingular and the parent company SBC you will use them for all your needs. Via UMTS you will have 100mb+ wireless data connections. This is currently only in 4 markets and it will take a year before more markets are included because of the mergers.
It is the main reason for all the SBC/ATT mergers. SBC is planning on providing VOIP for your Cell phone. Stick with us we are leading the way in technology. Cingular is on the GSM model... find out more on the http://www.gsmworld.com website.
Also if you get a chance see who is running the "Americas" GSM migration plan.
T-Mobil also uses GSM but they are far behind Cingular. Verison Sprint and Nextel all use proprietary protocols not GSM Open Standards.
"While we are on it, does anyone know of a product that allows you to make landline calls THROUGH your cellphone? Here is my idea:"
SBC/ATT ATTWS/Cingular has been transitioning to this model for years. SBC is the parent company of Cingular. This is the reason for the double merger. SBC would like to be a one-stop telecommunications place. 3G (3rd Generation) and 4G (4th Generation) models are to use your cell phone at home while your phone connects to a home station and receives calls transmitted over a broadband (VOIP). Then when going to a WiFi area your phone automatically picks up the Wifi signal and uses WiFi service. Then going to work your phone would use a cellular connection 100mb+ for all Internet network and cell service.
Cingular has UMTS in 4 markets Seattle and 4 other services. This is high-speed cellular service. Cingular will continue to lead the way into the 3G world. I have been a Verison user for 5 years and recently (4 months ago) started working in the NOC for ATTWS/Cingular. With the added merger of SBC/ATT will have the complete technology to provide a one stop shopping for all your GSM 3G technologies?
SBC/ATT ATTWS/Cingular has been transitioning to this model for years. SBC is the parent company of Cingular. This is the reason for the double merger. SBC would like to be a one-stop telecommunications place. 3G (3rd Generation) and 4G (4th Generation) models are to use your cell phone at home while your phone connects to a home station and receives calls transmitted over a broadband (VOIP). Then when going to a WiFi area your phone automatically picks up the Wifi signal and uses WiFi service. Then going to work your phone would use a cellular connection 100mb+ for all Internet network and cell service.
Cingular has UMTS in 4 markets Seattle and 4 other services. This is high-speed cellular service. Cingular will continue to lead the way into the 3G world. I have been a Verison user for 5 years and recently (4 months ago) started working in the NOC for ATTWS/Cingular. With the added merger of SBC/ATT will have the complete technology to provide a one stop shopping for all your GSM 3G technologies?
Sounds like your company could have used an web interface to please the "management" and end-user "want/need" for a GUI that was more modern.
I know we have created WEB GUI's that look as good as client/server while still being Server side.
I agree, but have a different take.
1. I am a linux user at home
2. My Fortune 500 company uses Sun at work (for desktop and our IT tools) If we need MS software we use citrix
3. On both home and work I use Gnome (ga-nome)
Sun is making an aggressive move here to directly compete with Linux. They have a superiour product to Linux and probably see a very short window for them to act. I think its genius of them to do this.
Under there CDDL the technology is Open Sourced and Copywrite at the same time. It prevents other OS's (competitors) from using it and gives an effective medium for OpenSource software to be used commercially (You can use the SourseCode and if you do not change it you can add software and re-distro it w/o giving back to the community).
In the long run any commercial IT department should look to Sun as an alternitive to Linux or Windows as a desktop solution. As it is already ready for such a move (unlike Linux see IBM artical above).
And Sun will continue to make Software it can sell for its open OS, it will make money selling support for its open OS, and for the 1st time might become the mainstream OS. Something Linux, Mac, BSD has failed to do.
I think this CDDL is a smart move not only for Sun but for *NIX in general.
"Cisco is a U.S. company. And internet gambling is illegal in the United States"
Really? Tell that to www.oregonlottery.org The State of Oregon doesn't know that internet gambling is illegal in the US
I see a day when some company like Lindows (now under new name) cannot steal everyone else's work and then sell it as "proprietary" because they put a few lines in it.
This also protects OSS programmers from having their work used in other people's software.
In 5 years IBM code (and any other giant who joins them) will be in almost every distro and software databases, Office suites, and many many other programs. IBM code and Linux could be inseparable.
It will help develop Linux software that is inexpensive to remove MS from its extortion ring it has going now. And prevent other companies from trying to not share code.
By putting US Patents in the GNU Code it makes the GNU OSS always having to be GNU OSS.
Good Job IBM, I look forward to my next IBM Laptop (I was going to get an HP)
I am a Network Engineer in the NOC for ATT/Cingular.
Anyone can say what he or she want about former ATT Wireless coverage, customer service, or lack of good phones. But they are leading the industry in future Technologies.
They are promoting the UMA. Why? The plan:
You take your cell phone with you while you are traveling using UMTS high frequency bandwidth (GPRS has limitations but will be around for many years still for backward compatibility)
When you get home you switch to your local area network voip. Your Cell phone becomes your home phone. When you are at work your cell phone switches to your corporate network. Your cell phone becomes your work phone. Also via Bluetooth Your cell phone is your modem to your laptop / or even PC.
This technology is not going to remove Cell phone service... it will expand the use of your Cell phone. This is not something ATT and now Cingular is fighting it is something they are leading in the development of.
GPRS/GPS (Now UMTS) Technology is the world open standard. Sprint and Verizon still use proprietary technology that will have a difficult time migrating to what is called 3G or 3rd Generation (or 4G) phones.
This is the future with UMTS bandwidth already in 4 markets (Seattle is one of them) faster then DSL.
I kept this as non-technical as possible (1st post)
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All this about who is better, US or UN is not relevant to the article. The question is who would be better handling domain names and IP address for the world. ICAAN or ITU? I believe ICAAN is doing a fine job. Why fix something that is not broke? ICAAN is not a department of the US Government, but ITU is a department of the UN Government. ICAAN is an internationally incorporated non-profit. If the UN takes over the role of ICAAN you can bet we would be removing domains and domain names from the private business world and putting it in the hands of governments around the world. I do not see how small dictatorships or China running all the domains for there assigned nation could possibly help progress free thought exchange now being used on the Internet. Example: All China IP's will start with 86.10 (Beijing) (using phone codes). Then the China government can stop any domain from its government run/regulated ISP's from allowing any non- China approved country code. What we will have is huge communication blockades. Why is this good ????? Please explain???
4. Verizon and Sprint both use Qualcomm's CDMA2000 standard. It's not GSM, but it's not a non "Open Standard" per se.
The whole world uses GSM Open Standard. Qualcomm's CDMA2000 although can produce some of the same bandwith, you can not take your phone overseas. If everyone used GSM standard (GSM, GPRS Edge UMTS) www.gsmworld.com - then phone companies and other services providers would have an easier time providing better service for us the customer.
I do not work in Marketing and am unconcerned with current pricing. But that being said. My post was directed at the future of Cingular not the current state. As I work in the Network Operations for data applications. In less then 2 years you will see 100+ mb transmitions. The current status of UMTS may be 14mbps is still 12mbps faster then my cable modem. Does T-Mobile have anything even close to UMTS?
Thank you ... I had the wrong South*Bell
SBC is Southwest Bell.
Thank you, I also made your correction in a comment I made below.
Correction its SouthWestern Bell slight corrections (Score:2) by Ohreally_factor (593551) on Tuesday February 08, @05:54AM (#11604996) (Last Journal: Friday January 02, @07:40AM) SBC is one of the original Baby Bells, and used to be named Southwestern Bell Company. They changed it to SBC Communications Inc. and had an ad campaign about it not too long ago.
With the 3G and 4G plans at Cingular and the parent company SBC you will use them for all your needs. Via UMTS you will have 100mb+ wireless data connections. This is currently only in 4 markets and it will take a year before more markets are included because of the mergers. It is the main reason for all the SBC/ATT mergers. SBC is planning on providing VOIP for your Cell phone. Stick with us we are leading the way in technology. Cingular is on the GSM model ... find out more on the http://www.gsmworld.com website.
Also if you get a chance see who is running the "Americas" GSM migration plan.
T-Mobil also uses GSM but they are far behind Cingular. Verison Sprint and Nextel all use proprietary protocols not GSM Open Standards.
SBC is planning on providing VOIP. They are moving into the future ... buy stock now!!!
"The regional bells will not go quietly into that good night." "Of course they won't go quietly, but the competition will benefit the consumer with lower prices and more features. There was something to be said for the stability of old Ma Bell, but I think most people would agree they like having the choices and competition that have come with deregulation." SBC Southern Bell Corp. They are Ma'Bell!! They also own Cingular who purchased ATT-Wireless and are now purchasing ATT. They are trying to re-unite the old company for more services.
"what the phone companies are going to try and do about this? I can see them charging long distance to people with the VoIP area codes" SBC IS a local phone company ... Southern Bell Corp. They are buying ATT. Cingular already purchased ATT-Wireless. SBC is the parent company of Cingular.
"Now the future as I see it is using something similiar to Skype, or VOIP technology to enable this as a way that i can be making calls through my computer, and paying for a GPRS connection that is always on."
... find out more on the http://www.gsmworld.com website.
Right. With the 3G and 4G plans at Cingular and the parent company SBC you will use them for all your needs. Via UMTS you will have 100mb+ wireless data connections. This is currently only in 4 markets and it will take a year before more markets are included because of the mergers.
It is the main reason for all the SBC/ATT mergers. SBC is planning on providing VOIP for your Cell phone. Stick with us we are leading the way in technology. Cingular is on the GSM model
Also if you get a chance see who is running the "Americas" GSM migration plan.
T-Mobil also uses GSM but they are far behind Cingular. Verison Sprint and Nextel all use proprietary protocols not GSM Open Standards.
"But it's not good for:
- Data
- FAX
- Long calls with little time between them to recharge the cellphone battery."
Data? If you live in one of the 4 UMTS markets you can receive faster data transmitions through your Cingular service then through your cable modem.
Repeate post:
"While we are on it, does anyone know of a product that allows you to make landline calls THROUGH your cellphone? Here is my idea:"
SBC/ATT ATTWS/Cingular has been transitioning to this model for years. SBC is the parent company of Cingular. This is the reason for the double merger. SBC would like to be a one-stop telecommunications place. 3G (3rd Generation) and 4G (4th Generation) models are to use your cell phone at home while your phone connects to a home station and receives calls transmitted over a broadband (VOIP). Then when going to a WiFi area your phone automatically picks up the Wifi signal and uses WiFi service. Then going to work your phone would use a cellular connection 100mb+ for all Internet network and cell service.
Cingular has UMTS in 4 markets Seattle and 4 other services. This is high-speed cellular service. Cingular will continue to lead the way into the 3G world. I have been a Verison user for 5 years and recently (4 months ago) started working in the NOC for ATTWS/Cingular. With the added merger of SBC/ATT will have the complete technology to provide a one stop shopping for all your GSM 3G technologies?
SBC/ATT ATTWS/Cingular has been transitioning to this model for years. SBC is the parent company of Cingular. This is the reason for the double merger. SBC would like to be a one-stop telecommunications place. 3G (3rd Generation) and 4G (4th Generation) models are to use your cell phone at home while your phone connects to a home station and receives calls transmitted over a broadband (VOIP). Then when going to a WiFi area your phone automatically picks up the Wifi signal and uses WiFi service. Then going to work your phone would use a cellular connection 100mb+ for all Internet network and cell service.
Cingular has UMTS in 4 markets Seattle and 4 other services. This is high-speed cellular service. Cingular will continue to lead the way into the 3G world. I have been a Verison user for 5 years and recently (4 months ago) started working in the NOC for ATTWS/Cingular. With the added merger of SBC/ATT will have the complete technology to provide a one stop shopping for all your GSM 3G technologies?
Why does one of the windows on the screenshot you provided say linux?
Sounds like your company could have used an web interface to please the "management" and end-user "want/need" for a GUI that was more modern. I know we have created WEB GUI's that look as good as client/server while still being Server side.
I agree, but have a different take. 1. I am a linux user at home 2. My Fortune 500 company uses Sun at work (for desktop and our IT tools) If we need MS software we use citrix 3. On both home and work I use Gnome (ga-nome) Sun is making an aggressive move here to directly compete with Linux. They have a superiour product to Linux and probably see a very short window for them to act. I think its genius of them to do this. Under there CDDL the technology is Open Sourced and Copywrite at the same time. It prevents other OS's (competitors) from using it and gives an effective medium for OpenSource software to be used commercially (You can use the SourseCode and if you do not change it you can add software and re-distro it w/o giving back to the community). In the long run any commercial IT department should look to Sun as an alternitive to Linux or Windows as a desktop solution. As it is already ready for such a move (unlike Linux see IBM artical above). And Sun will continue to make Software it can sell for its open OS, it will make money selling support for its open OS, and for the 1st time might become the mainstream OS. Something Linux, Mac, BSD has failed to do. I think this CDDL is a smart move not only for Sun but for *NIX in general.
"Cisco is a U.S. company. And internet gambling is illegal in the United States" Really? Tell that to www.oregonlottery.org The State of Oregon doesn't know that internet gambling is illegal in the US
I see a day when some company like Lindows (now under new name) cannot steal everyone else's work and then sell it as "proprietary" because they put a few lines in it. This also protects OSS programmers from having their work used in other people's software. In 5 years IBM code (and any other giant who joins them) will be in almost every distro and software databases, Office suites, and many many other programs. IBM code and Linux could be inseparable. It will help develop Linux software that is inexpensive to remove MS from its extortion ring it has going now. And prevent other companies from trying to not share code. By putting US Patents in the GNU Code it makes the GNU OSS always having to be GNU OSS. Good Job IBM, I look forward to my next IBM Laptop (I was going to get an HP)
I am a Network Engineer in the NOC for ATT/Cingular. Anyone can say what he or she want about former ATT Wireless coverage, customer service, or lack of good phones. But they are leading the industry in future Technologies. They are promoting the UMA. Why? The plan: You take your cell phone with you while you are traveling using UMTS high frequency bandwidth (GPRS has limitations but will be around for many years still for backward compatibility) When you get home you switch to your local area network voip. Your Cell phone becomes your home phone. When you are at work your cell phone switches to your corporate network. Your cell phone becomes your work phone. Also via Bluetooth Your cell phone is your modem to your laptop / or even PC. This technology is not going to remove Cell phone service ... it will expand the use of your Cell phone. This is not something ATT and now Cingular is fighting it is something they are leading in the development of.
GPRS/GPS (Now UMTS) Technology is the world open standard. Sprint and Verizon still use proprietary technology that will have a difficult time migrating to what is called 3G or 3rd Generation (or 4G) phones.
This is the future with UMTS bandwidth already in 4 markets (Seattle is one of them) faster then DSL.
I kept this as non-technical as possible (1st post)