Dear fellow Cyberterrorist and Child Pornographer (once called netizen)
The Gnutella folks should stick to the current naming scheme, because its all a schism anyways. They are just doing what seems necessary right now for every netizen to not be called a Cyberterrorist or Child Pronographer, accuse the others of being it, and enter the lines of the (Proud And Tall) army of the american djihad on sexuality and world domination neuroses.
Im so fuckin bored by this crap, not only because its just a vehicle for everyone engagin into it. The Politicians are only interested in the possiblities to make the internet what goerge orwell thought of it, the transparent citizen. The Publishers engaging cause of hi sales figures for news papers and their angst of the digital future.
For anyone really interested in the matter of children and sexuality, please refer to this article: http://www.violence.de/prescott/bulletin/article .html As it points out what damage has been done so far, to our children, by denying the existence of their sexuality.
And, after all, isnt one of the problems that lead to the existence of such horrible scenarios like the sexual abuse, or violence induced in general on children, that they are considered not fully human, and therefor them are denied the Human Rights (and these transferred to parents, educational instutions or the like).
regionalization, cartelization... that's the hole point, and i think it's unfair to call the very first pimp of the music industries clueless. I'm obsolutely sure he knows what his dogsofdoom are going for. And be asured, this is just the start of the campaign. jsut understand that all the bucks don valenti's family was pumpin into this next big tec thingy (whatsit, deeveedee?), and let nobody try to blow their great idea how to secure local nationalized distribution networx, rendered completely useless in the digital age, by makin the customer pay.
And be reminded, moral articulation against capitalistic oppretion bought the indian nation it's coffin.
I would recommend for any real interested reader in the matter of artificial intelligence and the possibility to evolve consciousness, the lecture of the Works of Roger Penrose (The Emeror's New Mind, Shadows of the Mind).
Especially in Shadows of the Mind, Roger Penrose announces and proofs that from the current knowledge of the basic laws of nature, there are some basics missing, to be able to describe consciousness in any way. He recommends that before Man will be able to mimic or even build up intelligence in machines, he first have to really understand what the matter of consciousness is.
Roger Penrose is very confident that there are basic laws of nature which describe consciousness, that only we haven't found them yet.
Very interesting, very scientific, and he puts the ever reoccurring announcements since the 50's of the artificial intelligence enthusiasts (and even scientist) that artificial intelligence is just on the verge into reality, into the area of wishful thinking, as long as the basic laws of nature, determining the occurance of consiousness are not described.
here comes a little insight on the overall topic. I hope this can boil up the discussion about industrial engagement in the linux and open source distribution a bit.
>Greetings, > >Below you will find a press statement from members of the >.net jury of this years Prix Ars Electronica. You will read >about the real paths that lead us, the jury, to award this >years golden nica to the operating system linux. > >Best, > >Marleen Stikker > >______________________________________ > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Linz, Sep 6, 1999 > > >Media Contacts: >Marleen Stikker >Centrum de Waag >Amsterdam/ The Netherlands >Tel: (+31)20-5579898 >Fax: (+31)20-5579880 >Email: marleen@dds.nl >Website: http://www.waag.org > >Dr. Christine Schoepf >ORF Prix Ars Electronica 99 >Linz/ Austria >Tel. (+43)732-6900-24218 >Tel. (+43)732-6900-24270 >Email: christine.schoepf@orf.at >Website: http://prixars.orf.at > > > >ARS ELECTRONICA PLAYGROUND FOR CORPORATE STRATEGIES > >We, the "net." jury, have just learned that next years >ars electronica festival will be titled "OPEN SOURCE". >This has been inofficially agreed on by the direction of >the ARS ELECTRONICA and the sponsors Siemens, Microsoft, >Oracle and HP, e.a. From reliable sources we also learned >that the decision was made weeks before the ".net"-jury >decision on "linux". > > >WHY WE ARE GOING PUBLIC > >Because we have also just learned that the above-mentioned >IT-companies are involved in a linux distribution joint >venture and a strategic alliance. Their joint venture startup >will most probably become one of the leading linux >distributors, directly attacking Red Hat and SUSE. > >This is the classic oligopolistic strategy. >They cannot buy linux, nevertheless, they will take control >over the distibution of the competitor. > >We were suspicious before, but now we are strongly convinced >that there was indirect but heavy influence by corporate and >ars electronica executives to reach the "linux" decision... > > >THE JURY WEEK-END > >For the jury welcome dinner, a few corporate people had been >invited, too. Everybody was discussing about where Ars >Electronica could or should be going. For the corporate people >the main hype was of course the.net category, e-commerce and >the commercial impact of the "mass communications" medium >internet... and they were all constantly talking about the >creative potential of linux and its open source strategy. > >Then, at the actual jury meeting, deciding on a winner appeared >to be quite a hard decision (not to say compromise). Whilst the >majority of the jury had a clear favourite in the russian info- >intelligence startup "etxtreme.ru", another juror started >talking about "that we need to decide on something that is really >taking two steps ahead, not some arty-farty stuff". So "linux" just >came up as a smart solution. we took this path, we formulated our >statement and came up with the source code as art work, with our >position against "beautiful" web-sites. it was a strong moment. >And we saw linux as the perfect continuum to the corporate artwork >of etoy.com, the Ars Electronica winners of 1996. > > >TERRORVISION AND THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION > >But the information about the secret linux distribution joint >venture between Microsoft and Siemens in combination with next >years topic made us alert. > >Our conclusion: the industry has strongly lobbied and put >pressure on at least one jury member to award "linux". We now >have to interpret this in persepective of next years ars topic. >They pushed the topic. The idea is to use the art and science >community to soft launch their linux activities and control >open source strategies. They do understand that open source >has evolved into a stronger development strategy and they have >to jump that train early enough, in order to avoid another >"internet" desaster. > >So as artists writers and scientists we are used as lab-rats >and cheap alternative researchers. This is NOT what artists >need and it is certainly not what Ars Electronica should be >aiming at. > > >NEXT STEPS > >We believe that investigative journalism is needed to further >describe and interpret this incident.. >We definitely want to engage in bringing transparency into the >"who`s, when`s, where`s, and for how much money" of this years >decision making process of Prix Ars Electronica. > >For the press, we are available for background information and >extended infos on the topic via email or at our on-the-fly press >conference: > > sept 8, 1999, 1630h > brucknerhaus in linz > > >Regards, > > Derrick de Kerckhove > Lisa Goldman > Joichi Ito > Marleen Stikker >
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Dear fellow Cyberterrorist and Child Pornographer
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(once called netizen)
The Gnutella folks should stick to the current naming scheme, because its all a schism anyways.
They are just doing what seems necessary right now for every netizen to not be called a Cyberterrorist or Child Pronographer, accuse the others of being it, and enter the lines of the
(Proud And Tall) army of the american djihad on sexuality and world domination neuroses.
Im so fuckin bored by this crap, not only because its just a vehicle for everyone engagin into it. The Politicians are only interested in the possiblities to make the internet what goerge orwell thought of it, the transparent citizen. The Publishers engaging cause of hi sales figures for news papers and their angst of the digital future.
For anyone really interested in the matter of children and sexuality, please refer to this article:
http://www.violence.de/prescott/bulletin/articl
As it points out what damage has been done so far, to our children, by denying the existence of their sexuality.
And, after all, isnt one of the problems that lead to the existence of such horrible scenarios like the sexual abuse, or violence induced in general on children, that they are considered not fully human, and therefor them are denied the Human Rights (and these transferred to parents, educational instutions or the like).
regionalization, cartelization ...
that's the hole point, and i think it's unfair to call the very first pimp of the music industries clueless. I'm obsolutely sure he knows what his dogsofdoom are going for. And be asured, this is just the start of the campaign.
jsut understand that all the bucks don valenti's family was pumpin into this next big tec thingy (whatsit, deeveedee?), and let nobody try to blow their great idea how to secure local nationalized distribution networx, rendered completely useless in the digital age, by makin the customer pay.
And be reminded, moral articulation against capitalistic oppretion bought the indian nation it's coffin.
I would recommend for any real interested reader in the matter of artificial intelligence and the possibility to evolve consciousness, the lecture of the Works of Roger Penrose (The Emeror's New Mind, Shadows of the Mind).
Especially in Shadows of the Mind, Roger Penrose announces and proofs that from the current knowledge of the basic laws of nature, there are some basics missing, to be able to describe consciousness in any way. He recommends that before Man will be able to mimic or even build up intelligence in machines, he first have to really understand what the matter of consciousness is.
Roger Penrose is very confident that there are basic laws of nature which describe consciousness, that only we haven't found them yet.
Very interesting, very scientific, and he puts the ever reoccurring announcements since the 50's of the artificial intelligence enthusiasts (and even scientist) that artificial intelligence is just on the verge into reality, into the area of wishful thinking, as long as the basic laws of nature, determining the occurance of consiousness are not described.
(excuse my rough english)
r0rsch4ch
(gravity sux)
Hi Folks,
.net category, e-commerce and
here comes a little insight on the overall topic.
I hope this can boil up the discussion about industrial engagement in the linux and open source distribution a bit.
>Greetings,
>
>Below you will find a press statement from members of the
>.net jury of this years Prix Ars Electronica. You will read
>about the real paths that lead us, the jury, to award this
>years golden nica to the operating system linux.
>
>Best,
>
>Marleen Stikker
>
>______________________________________
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Linz, Sep 6, 1999
>
>
>Media Contacts:
>Marleen Stikker
>Centrum de Waag
>Amsterdam/ The Netherlands
>Tel: (+31)20-5579898
>Fax: (+31)20-5579880
>Email: marleen@dds.nl
>Website: http://www.waag.org
>
>Dr. Christine Schoepf
>ORF Prix Ars Electronica 99
>Linz/ Austria
>Tel. (+43)732-6900-24218
>Tel. (+43)732-6900-24270
>Email: christine.schoepf@orf.at
>Website: http://prixars.orf.at
>
>
>
>ARS ELECTRONICA PLAYGROUND FOR CORPORATE STRATEGIES
>
>We, the "net." jury, have just learned that next years
>ars electronica festival will be titled "OPEN SOURCE".
>This has been inofficially agreed on by the direction of
>the ARS ELECTRONICA and the sponsors Siemens, Microsoft,
>Oracle and HP, e.a. From reliable sources we also learned
>that the decision was made weeks before the ".net"-jury
>decision on "linux".
>
>
>WHY WE ARE GOING PUBLIC
>
>Because we have also just learned that the above-mentioned
>IT-companies are involved in a linux distribution joint
>venture and a strategic alliance. Their joint venture startup
>will most probably become one of the leading linux
>distributors, directly attacking Red Hat and SUSE.
>
>This is the classic oligopolistic strategy.
>They cannot buy linux, nevertheless, they will take control
>over the distibution of the competitor.
>
>We were suspicious before, but now we are strongly convinced
>that there was indirect but heavy influence by corporate and
>ars electronica executives to reach the "linux" decision...
>
>
>THE JURY WEEK-END
>
>For the jury welcome dinner, a few corporate people had been
>invited, too. Everybody was discussing about where Ars
>Electronica could or should be going. For the corporate people
>the main hype was of course the
>the commercial impact of the "mass communications" medium
>internet... and they were all constantly talking about the
>creative potential of linux and its open source strategy.
>
>Then, at the actual jury meeting, deciding on a winner appeared
>to be quite a hard decision (not to say compromise). Whilst the
>majority of the jury had a clear favourite in the russian info-
>intelligence startup "etxtreme.ru", another juror started
>talking about "that we need to decide on something that is really
>taking two steps ahead, not some arty-farty stuff". So "linux" just
>came up as a smart solution. we took this path, we formulated our
>statement and came up with the source code as art work, with our
>position against "beautiful" web-sites. it was a strong moment.
>And we saw linux as the perfect continuum to the corporate artwork
>of etoy.com, the Ars Electronica winners of 1996.
>
>
>TERRORVISION AND THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION
>
>But the information about the secret linux distribution joint
>venture between Microsoft and Siemens in combination with next
>years topic made us alert.
>
>Our conclusion: the industry has strongly lobbied and put
>pressure on at least one jury member to award "linux". We now
>have to interpret this in persepective of next years ars topic.
>They pushed the topic. The idea is to use the art and science
>community to soft launch their linux activities and control
>open source strategies. They do understand that open source
>has evolved into a stronger development strategy and they have
>to jump that train early enough, in order to avoid another
>"internet" desaster.
>
>So as artists writers and scientists we are used as lab-rats
>and cheap alternative researchers. This is NOT what artists
>need and it is certainly not what Ars Electronica should be
>aiming at.
>
>
>NEXT STEPS
>
>We believe that investigative journalism is needed to further
>describe and interpret this incident..
>We definitely want to engage in bringing transparency into the
>"who`s, when`s, where`s, and for how much money" of this years
>decision making process of Prix Ars Electronica.
>
>For the press, we are available for background information and
>extended infos on the topic via email or at our on-the-fly press
>conference:
>
> sept 8, 1999, 1630h
> brucknerhaus in linz
>
>
>Regards,
>
> Derrick de Kerckhove
> Lisa Goldman
> Joichi Ito
> Marleen Stikker
>