What does squishy mean? That the earths core is compressible or that it is less viscous than thought? The article seems to think compressible.
Sounds like scientists have thought of a way to keep their theory alive and this is not the first time they have used this "fudge factor" technique. Just to mention a few other "new" elements added to theories recently as fudge factor elements that keep theories alive:
Black Holes - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible stellar systems don't result in the working model of what is known about galaxies.
Dark Matter - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible universe don't result in the working model of what is known about systems of galaxies.
Dark Energy - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible universe don't result in the working model of what is known about systems of galaxies.
And now: the center of the Earth is in a non-liquid type of compressible pseudo-liquid/gas - all because measurements of the "visible universe" don't result in the working model of what is known about the planet earth.
The emerging pattern here is that the scientific community are ever willing to invent ever more non-scientific explanations involving invisible, dark, obscure un-measurable and fantastic elements and continue with their precious theories.
I guess the question becomes: Who cares? All we need is an education system that churns out minds willing to accept the spam while they continue to muddle away with their coveted derivatives until the next correction is needed.
Geo-engineering Mars to support earth type life requires that long term priorities to be defined clearly.
It seems to me that glucose production from Martian raw materials is critical for the sustainability of human life; that a long term priority is already presumed by NASA in this exercise. We are not geo-engineering by altering the environment but rather by containing an environment.
That means the primary engineering a technological solution which leads into the questions you ask.
- how to deal growinv something in a soil that is mostly perchlorate (not exactly a rich soil)?
Soil minerals obviously need to be substituted with "plant food". Once the initial generation of "tree" has grown, a portion of it is permitted to decompose to fulfill the nutrition gap requisite for the sustainability of the next generation.
- how to deal with an atmospheric pressure that is a tiny fraction of earth's?
Eucalyptus trees where bred near the Mojave desert so as to derive a strain that would hold up to the desert conditions.
A similar process could be used to derive a strain of algea that thrives in low atmospheric pressure.
- how to deal with sun's output which is a lot less (in terms of useful light) but higher (in term of radiations)
A similar process to above, furthermore the light will need to be filtered as the greenhouse environment will necessarily involve sunlight passing through a transparent material of some sort.
Further up-concentration / transformation of solar energy can be done with mirrors or other technological enhancements.
- and which exact plant are you going to use as "tree" ? (probably some cyanobacteriae)
The exact plant chosen has to do with efficient use of energy by the plant... A cheap solar cell is 10 times more efficient at gathering energy than the most efficient plant. The biggest external factor is the wavelength of light energy available; light outside the nominal 400 - 700 nm wavelength plants use is unavailable to power photosynthesis.
A technological enhancement may be to employ solar panels and lighting systems wherein the energy density introduced to the plant is maximized by way of utilizing components designed to enhance the suns energy spectrum.
It is noteworth to point out that a similar efficiency problem exists with regards to the amount of CO2 dissolved in the water and in that CO2 being in close proximity to the photosynthetic bio-agent. Greater pressures enhance the solubility of CO2 in the watery solution so perhaps breeding a bio-agent for low pressure environment is the wrong approach initially. Especially where technological enhancements are being applied.
However if sustainability of human life is not the primary objective, geo-engineering boils down to how can we change the energy dynamics on a planetary scale so as to advance the dynamic in the desired "direction".
For example, what would be the result of adding 0.0005% of sulfure dioxide, or hydrogen sulfide to the atmosphere? Is there a better chemical agent to introduce?
p>Another example, what can be done to enhance the magnetic field of the planet so that the atmosphere doesn't get stripped away during CME events?
The wireless access being put in without much care for the sake of ease of use the main issue, not that cars ECU's can be modified.
The performance tuning community depends on being able to do ECU modifications to bump up performance.
The debate about ECU security is actually about encrypting or otherwise hindering the ability of car owners to modify their tune. Locking down the ECU is relatively easy; the farm tractor manufacturers already use encryption and keys and will void a warranty if their ECU's are modified. This created an increase in demand for older farm equipment that could be modified.
This issue boils down to freedom to own and do what you will with what you own verses licence-ship and having to accept something with use limitation.
It is up to local checks and balances to meaningfully protect their journalists and combat corruption in whatever form it may take. And, let there be a local population that will take a stand for such measures rather than appeal to the corporation.
If a system requires the brutality and death of journalist or more open-speaking critics so that checks and balances occur, that is more a question of how local governments of those systems can improve in meaningful ways.
If Facebook or any other corporation do take measures, even while appearing to protect journalists, it may also create an element of noise wherein the voices and opinions being expressed may become suppressed or unheard.
Furthermore, while trying to protect freedom of speech or press, we all may see such measures as acceptable, but when faced with court orders to lift anonymity in face of copyright or some other investigative effort... Let's say that there are some amongst us that just won't care about journalists as much as their bottom line.
The problem is to broad for corporate policy to adequately address.
Christianity definitely didn't start at 0 AD. If wikipedia serves, started at about 300 AD when Constantine started recognizing the group. There was that a council of scholars (I believe known as The Councils of Nicaea) that decided on what should be put into the compilation we know as the bible then the erection of the first church in 380AD.
Hypathia, the respected but troublesome figure, was murdered around 415AD, 35 years later. The Dark ages starting about a hundred years later (according to Wikipedia), presumably when a more widespread campaign of stamping out a competing vision of the biblical god becomes economically and politically viable. Join us or die ultimatum.
I contend is that there where repeated efforts to suppress or destroy information. Consider Galileo as an obvious example, and he was only put under house arrest because of his nobility. Furthermore, If you consider the most common method to convey information to be in the form of a story, killing people who know and tell stories destroys information.
I will admit, putting aside your interesting contentions for the moment, I may have applied the word you quoted in this historic context irresponsibly, not because I feel it would misrepresent what actually happened, but irresponsibly because of knee jerk reaction conditioning people have to defend their faith from such a challenge. And that is where the actual point gets missed.
Lastly, perhaps we both agree that history is written by the those who are victorious. The conclusions about central authorities with enough clout or central authority in regions being conquered will never paint a negative light on history retold, the requirement of being a truthful historic entry being optional, what is not optional is that their history be aligned to dogma of their allies, other church based political allies for instance.
In our time of government secrets, no credible historian will deviate substantially from official press releases in their interpretation of major events like 9/11 or even the Iraq war even though no threat has actually been issued against the lives of journalists or their families. The tin foil hat crowd is just ignored and make up that "static" portion of the bandwidth. If the message is still too clear, then attack a producer or directors credibility with more static.
In 500 years time, conjectures supposing the official view, for example, Iraq was invaded for oil can become another interpretation of how our energy dependency influenced historians to such conclusions. The declension may been be a part of a further hereto unfolding push to discredit such views.
In many ways, this latest trend of destroying information that doesn't suit the state, or whatever authority behind the state, is old hat, the only thing new these days is that we live in a world with the internet. For the most part, killing someone's image is more effective in killing their message without the martyrdom problem.
It actually started with the burning of the great library of Alexandria and the murder of Hypathia at the start of an era we call the Dark Ages when Christianity was born. Centuries of a murderous, and genocidal campaign was untaken to erase specific information from human knowledge and history.
I find it odd to read an article shared on/. starting with "Imagine a world where the book burners had won."
Could part of the problem be rooted in the nature of how the protagonists were fighting for basic principles challenged or perhaps infringed on by circumstances with real parallels in our society and/or that the fight could be viewed as motive or encouragement to fight these same parallels in our reality?
I'm going out on a limb here.:) I hope only for the comments and particular view you hold in relation or thereabouts.
So if accept that the soul is a measurable discrete entity, and we accept that in lower energy forms it is to be placed in a vessel or body that then becomes it's "home" for the duration of time the vessel can contain it, until death, then clearly the soul is somewhat a localized entity. As a body dies and decomposes, returning its material to the land from which it came, we can easily assimilate an idea that a soul would also return to its source.
On earth, its arguable that the source of almost all life/energy is the sun; it illuminates and heats our world, it is the power behind photosynthesis from which emerges the basic essential and energy of all foods through the food chains. We can call the sun a sort of energy portal where energy and life passes into this realm. Presumably we can even extend this analogy to suppose that souls, as higher level energy patterns, also transit this portal when incarnating a body and possibly would transit back to source when the body/vessel containment aspects collapse at or about the moment of death.
A great deal has been claimed about sacred geometries present in some form in all things, especially living things, on earth. A few artificial things, artifacts, The pyramids of Gaza and the Aztecs have sacred geometries built in them. Personally, I find a sacred geometry of striking coincidence in the sky observing the moon. It has the exact same aspect size and shape as the sun, it only shows one face to earth, a result of another coincidence of having the same rotational period as orbital period, and recently speculation that it may be an artificial satellite of sorts that was put in place sometime between 20K BC and 15K BC raises further speculation about what it really is. One could put forth a claim that there are too many coincidences about its existence for it to be purely natural, and yet, if one where to look into the sky and gaze across the moon, most wouldn't notice it to be out of place.
But the coincidence of being of the same aspect size as the sun is the basis of my question to you being that its aspect size may be related to "antenna" type characteristics of another kind. Can you imagine, if energy could channeled in a similar way to energy that is channelled from the sun, operating with a function similar to a portal, such that this energy would attract a disoriented soul recently liberated from its body that has just died. Perhaps attract such a soul much like a candle attracts a moth. A trap of sorts, that prevents the soul from rejoining with its source on the other side of the natural portal, the sun? As a part of an intergalactic struggle? Have you heard of such a thing elsewhere?
I think our "modern" notions of idealologies that describe a society, Communism and Capitalism, are both riddled with imperfection that manifests as the corruption that has destroyed them both. Corruption in our society is the thing that makes our idealologies imperfect and as a race we are too niave to accept that we are not as smart as we think we are, that our biggest enemy is human nature. That human nature is born harmless and innocent, but we soon grow out of that and I think that the expression "sinner" just means that we are imperfect. It is that imperfection that causes the corruption in our societies.
I hold that the ideas themselves are prefect. They have a necessary level of structure while leaving the rest open for implementation. Corruption enteres as part of that implementation; it's where the perfect idea becomes a tool for the to further channel those personal agendas.
I like your interpretation of sinner, but that too implies that submission to the greater and more perfect is mandated. A sort of, "know your place" and "fall into the pecking order" rationalization
Agree. I think what is at issue is what is the status quo? What is required to make it more fair to normal, everyday people whilst powerful people weild such influence.
Bingo.
I have a certain level of doubt that fair was ever the intention. Americans and Aussis always have taken the liberty to be oppressive in one form or another; Indigenous Native Americans 17 and 18 hundreds, aborigines, people of east temor, the idea that they would somehow take a stand against the oppression of their prole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Background [ see item III lower class ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell) is a break from culture and tradition.
The falacy of "We do not negotiate with terrorists" has to be challenged because the reality is it is promoting more terrorism. Unless it is a random act of violence, terrorists have a motivation and I want to know what it is that has made them violent so that maybe we can remove that motivation to commit terroist acts in the first place.
It must be this way, the question is who you define as a terrorist and how you treat those terrorists. On one occasion in the recent past when ultra orthodox Jews committed acts of violence and terror against their neighboring Palestinians, the Palestinians came out and declared those actions that of terrorists and denounced those perpetrators as terrorists. The Israelis' response was simple: "Yes their acts are that of terror, you can say they are terrorists, but we will not treat them as terrorists."
The point of negotiating with terror is an oxymoron in a way. Under fear, nobody rationalizes correctly and that's why that phrase has validity. However if you redefine the terms you have an inflection that only causes a degradation in the quality and level of communications. Perhaps it's for this reason that we hear that phrase so much more these days. The powers that be find it convenient to legitimize their declension of quality communications. They prefer that messages are sent by the exploding of bombs.
I think this is the difference between a Civillian and a Citizen. A Civilian will sit around, watching their sport, and take pot shots a people defending democracy as "political" or "whiners" or some other term. I beleive a Citizen is someone who participates in a democracy, not just by voting, but by writing letters to politicians and trying to change things for everyone in a peaceful way through the legislative process. They are the partners of democracy.
I applaud you initiative!
I will try something like writing to my representatives.
I don't know if I wrote this in my prior posting but Citizen is a title of nobility. ei "Citizen" John Dow or "Sargent" Bill McLearner or "Preside
A republic, by definition is a sovereign state where supreme power by the people and their representatives.
The USA (America) is in a bankrupt state operating under emergency powers, that supreme power is no longer held by the people or the representatives but rather the creditors owed.
It cannot be both bankrupt and sovereign, hence to call it a Democracy is more correct than to refer to it as a Republic of some sort.
My view is you can't meet imperfection with any form of perfection. Since human beings are imperfect, no perfect system can be expected to work. That being said, the justice system can't be perfect because it exists to resolve disputes between imperfect people.
There are a few examples of "perfect" systems that fail miserably, communism is idealistically perfect and yet the now defunct Soviet Union's implementation was riddled with corruption and inequity. Native american Indians lived in a very harmonious society, along came the europeans and took up a plan to wipe them out. Human beings are born completely vulnerable, harmless and innocent but the christian church has declared that everyone is born a sinner.
The reason justice is sometimes misunderstood is because we equate justice to fairness or equality. The hard truth is that justice is simply the maintenance of a status quo. In areas where that status quo is not understood, justice in that area is also not likely to be understood. If some force has caused the status quo be altered than the justice system is there to examine whether the forces involved are lawful or not and what "punishment" or reparations are required to re-establish that status quo.
With more laws being passed with secret or classified clauses we can be sure the status quo is changing into something that is less equal, less fair and more fascist. But how those changes will effect lives of Americans is still too subjective an issue to say anything definitive except that we continue to depend on the good judgement of our public servants and citizenry to take those issues and smooth them over by continuing to work for the good of the people.
Personally, I can't share any sympathy for either of the two brothers; their methods have caused more damage to the cause for freedom and the persistance of those values in the Bill of Rights than they can imagine. Their actions make everyone think that a war on terror is a good idea. Besides that, they have left only suffering and grief in their wake and their legacy will stand as that of a public villan.
There is a way to restore freedom. But it isn't easy and most everyone needs to want such a restoration and be willing to pay a price. People need to see the value in seeking more perfection in themselves before that perfection can have an effect on the freedom issue.
Plus, words that where defined one way have gradually had their official definition altered over the years... Try looking at how definitions of certain words have changed from Blacks Law 3rd edition to the 7th edition.
You want control of the law? You need only rewrite the dictionary. adverb-verb fictions are your friend.
This gradual and constant inflection leads to the declensions of the self-evident in all areas, not just how government interpretes the authority granted to it. These change of the presumptions and interpretations occur in a way that only invades that which is self-evident.
The fact is most of what happens in court is based on presumptions that are only known by a few. Another example of segregation through information.
The trick works because these changes are done over a 200 hundred years so that any one generation just labels it as "the changing of the times" whereas the actuality can be much more sinister. And all this is done in the name of progress.
I agree with your points about the law needing to be respectable and your surrounding viewpoints.
Nothing wrong with rants on/. that's why it's here, although a word of caution. I wouldn't want to incite social disorder on a monitored online forum.
If a rev0lut!on of some sort is to happen, there needs to be a definite plan with a long term strategy. If your strategy is not sound, you risk committing your "fast adopter" contempt group into positions that will compromise those resources for no definite gain.
The best way to throw the bums out of office is to vote them out, but to do that, you need to put forth a champion who can withstand the election process and remain faithful to the true values of your movement.
The idea of a popular uprising needs to be done in a way that does not justify the use of armed forces to prevent social disruption. Regardless of any Weapons Ban Act or the such, the police and government are much much better suited to handle a fighting confrontation than a political one. They have all the guns and military leadership they need to take on entire countries. Throwing stones will just get you sent to the brig where you can contemplate whether the pain of getting shot in the shoulder or hip was worth it.
If you need proof: the Israelis successfully have managed to keep the Palestinians under control for more that 200 years through their various uprisings, and not because the Palestinians where not willing to give their lives for what they believed or because they are not organized, but because their strategy is to confront their opposition where they are strongest. Their strategy is to appeal to international sympathy. It does not work. Nobody is sympathetic to the trouble-makers.
People need to get organized in a political and economic way. The population need to channel their desire for change into an organization or organizations that can displace both political parties without succumbing to the temptations of corruption.
The people need to overcome the media induced fear, the propaganda on TV, and start to listen to a community leader who will obviously need to coordinate his/her community with the organizational goals. Because the issues are so polarizing, it should be quite a bit easier to put something together than if things where more moderate. But it still remains a monumental feat.
Yeah well, the trend is to tighten everything up. I think you are probably right. Another poster sent me a link that showed me the tragic reality of things.
The point is, without community level organization, people (the public) are disorganized. The first step is to bring everyone together.
One community may be easily ignored, but how about an entire state of communities, or the majority of communities in most states.
Think of it like a large corporation, except that it's corporate goal is not profit, but the interests of its members.
I would call it a church, except that that term comes with too many pre-conceptions based on the Christianity. Instead of worshiping a deity and the sacrifice of our savior, the worship would be directed towards our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, the organization would work towards those ends.
The problem is people still think blowing stuff up or shooting is a better form of protest as though some savior would see the disperate plight behind such a protest and take constructive affirmative actions. That doesn't happen, the nail that sticks out get's hammered.
There is a reason our leaders have chosen to expand our prison infra rather than build new colleges.
Some people just figure, "hell with it" and do outrageous things and the rest of us get caught up with the TV based propaganda and become afraid to do anything, instead of take the first small steps.
We certainly don't have a direct democracy; your vote is merely an optional symbolic show of support for your "representative". Voting is not even an obligation of a citizen; they don't even try to hide how little it really means, or the minimal value our opinions hold.
A citizen has 3 obligations: obey the law, pay taxes, and subject to jury duty. One for each branch of government. I don't see voting anywhere in that list as a symbolic type of action for government related "decision making".
If your representative incidentally speaks or acts on your behalf and you can do nothing to intercede since you have neither the place or the means to make a protest, does it matter what it's called if people view their rule a militaristic or representative type of governance?
How often are public protests or even public opinion on a topic simply ignored by our "representatives" as they carry on with their day to day?
So yes, they are our leaders and we depend on their decisions as leaders so that our futures may be secure. And as a final point the term "Senator" or "Representative" as prefixed to the name of an elected official in the senate or house is a title of nobility. Citizen is another one. Why do you think that is? Do you even know that the implications of titles of nobility are?
The constitution is alive and well; the First 7 articles are alive and very well. It's the bill of rights that was add as a compromise in 1792 so that a few state representatives would feel confortable with the document and sign that is "under fire".
However if you consider your rights to be self evident, you don't need a document defining those rights for you.
Understanding is not a requisite of cooperation or fulfillment of citizen related beneficiary obligations: obey the law, pay taxes and submit to jury duty. If you have a problem with the way government is conducting business, you should take more action about those issues than rant about stuff on/. or making suggestions that some hackers take actions that would threaten the dignity of our public servants or the policies they choose to implement. That type of action will only justify a reaction that will result in new policies that are more similar to the proverbial "shaved, sterilized and destroyed" processing of our remaining freedoms.
The single best way to make changes is to get people in your community organized in a way that can productively send a clear and constructive message to our leaders.
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What does squishy mean? That the earths core is compressible or that it is less viscous than thought? The article seems to think compressible.
Sounds like scientists have thought of a way to keep their theory alive and this is not the first time they have used this "fudge factor" technique. Just to mention a few other "new" elements added to theories recently as fudge factor elements that keep theories alive:
Black Holes - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible stellar systems don't result in the working model of what is known about galaxies.
Dark Matter - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible universe don't result in the working model of what is known about systems of galaxies.
Dark Energy - Gravitational theory and measurements of the visible universe don't result in the working model of what is known about systems of galaxies.
And now: the center of the Earth is in a non-liquid type of compressible pseudo-liquid/gas - all because measurements of the "visible universe" don't result in the working model of what is known about the planet earth.
The emerging pattern here is that the scientific community are ever willing to invent ever more non-scientific explanations involving invisible, dark, obscure un-measurable and fantastic elements and continue with their precious theories.
I guess the question becomes: Who cares? All we need is an education system that churns out minds willing to accept the spam while they continue to muddle away with their coveted derivatives until the next correction is needed.
Geo-engineering Mars to support earth type life requires that long term priorities to be defined clearly.
It seems to me that glucose production from Martian raw materials is critical for the sustainability of human life; that a long term priority is already presumed by NASA in this exercise. We are not geo-engineering by altering the environment but rather by containing an environment.
That means the primary engineering a technological solution which leads into the questions you ask.
- how to deal growinv something in a soil that is mostly perchlorate (not exactly a rich soil)?
Soil minerals obviously need to be substituted with "plant food". Once the initial generation of "tree" has grown, a portion of it is permitted to decompose to fulfill the nutrition gap requisite for the sustainability of the next generation.
- how to deal with an atmospheric pressure that is a tiny fraction of earth's?
Eucalyptus trees where bred near the Mojave desert so as to derive a strain that would hold up to the desert conditions.
A similar process could be used to derive a strain of algea that thrives in low atmospheric pressure.
- how to deal with sun's output which is a lot less (in terms of useful light) but higher (in term of radiations)
A similar process to above, furthermore the light will need to be filtered as the greenhouse environment will necessarily involve sunlight passing through a transparent material of some sort.
Further up-concentration / transformation of solar energy can be done with mirrors or other technological enhancements.
- and which exact plant are you going to use as "tree" ? (probably some cyanobacteriae)
The exact plant chosen has to do with efficient use of energy by the plant... A cheap solar cell is 10 times more efficient at gathering energy than the most efficient plant. The biggest external factor is the wavelength of light energy available; light outside the nominal 400 - 700 nm wavelength plants use is unavailable to power photosynthesis.
A technological enhancement may be to employ solar panels and lighting systems wherein the energy density introduced to the plant is maximized by way of utilizing components designed to enhance the suns energy spectrum.
It is noteworth to point out that a similar efficiency problem exists with regards to the amount of CO2 dissolved in the water and in that CO2 being in close proximity to the photosynthetic bio-agent. Greater pressures enhance the solubility of CO2 in the watery solution so perhaps breeding a bio-agent for low pressure environment is the wrong approach initially. Especially where technological enhancements are being applied.
However if sustainability of human life is not the primary objective, geo-engineering boils down to how can we change the energy dynamics on a planetary scale so as to advance the dynamic in the desired "direction".
For example, what would be the result of adding 0.0005% of sulfure dioxide, or hydrogen sulfide to the atmosphere? Is there a better chemical agent to introduce?
p>Another example, what can be done to enhance the magnetic field of the planet so that the atmosphere doesn't get stripped away during CME events?
The wireless access being put in without much care for the sake of ease of use the main issue, not that cars ECU's can be modified.
The performance tuning community depends on being able to do ECU modifications to bump up performance.
The debate about ECU security is actually about encrypting or otherwise hindering the ability of car owners to modify their tune. Locking down the ECU is relatively easy; the farm tractor manufacturers already use encryption and keys and will void a warranty if their ECU's are modified. This created an increase in demand for older farm equipment that could be modified.
This issue boils down to freedom to own and do what you will with what you own verses licence-ship and having to accept something with use limitation.
Nothing.
It is up to local checks and balances to meaningfully protect their journalists and combat corruption in whatever form it may take. And, let there be a local population that will take a stand for such measures rather than appeal to the corporation.
If a system requires the brutality and death of journalist or more open-speaking critics so that checks and balances occur, that is more a question of how local governments of those systems can improve in meaningful ways.
If Facebook or any other corporation do take measures, even while appearing to protect journalists, it may also create an element of noise wherein the voices and opinions being expressed may become suppressed or unheard.
Furthermore, while trying to protect freedom of speech or press, we all may see such measures as acceptable, but when faced with court orders to lift anonymity in face of copyright or some other investigative effort... Let's say that there are some amongst us that just won't care about journalists as much as their bottom line.
The problem is to broad for corporate policy to adequately address.
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the thoughtful post.
Christianity definitely didn't start at 0 AD. If wikipedia serves, started at about 300 AD when Constantine started recognizing the group. There was that a council of scholars (I believe known as The Councils of Nicaea) that decided on what should be put into the compilation we know as the bible then the erection of the first church in 380AD.
Hypathia, the respected but troublesome figure, was murdered around 415AD, 35 years later. The Dark ages starting about a hundred years later (according to Wikipedia), presumably when a more widespread campaign of stamping out a competing vision of the biblical god becomes economically and politically viable. Join us or die ultimatum.
I contend is that there where repeated efforts to suppress or destroy information. Consider Galileo as an obvious example, and he was only put under house arrest because of his nobility. Furthermore, If you consider the most common method to convey information to be in the form of a story, killing people who know and tell stories destroys information.
I will admit, putting aside your interesting contentions for the moment, I may have applied the word you quoted in this historic context irresponsibly, not because I feel it would misrepresent what actually happened, but irresponsibly because of knee jerk reaction conditioning people have to defend their faith from such a challenge. And that is where the actual point gets missed.
Lastly, perhaps we both agree that history is written by the those who are victorious. The conclusions about central authorities with enough clout or central authority in regions being conquered will never paint a negative light on history retold, the requirement of being a truthful historic entry being optional, what is not optional is that their history be aligned to dogma of their allies, other church based political allies for instance.
In our time of government secrets, no credible historian will deviate substantially from official press releases in their interpretation of major events like 9/11 or even the Iraq war even though no threat has actually been issued against the lives of journalists or their families. The tin foil hat crowd is just ignored and make up that "static" portion of the bandwidth. If the message is still too clear, then attack a producer or directors credibility with more static.
In 500 years time, conjectures supposing the official view, for example, Iraq was invaded for oil can become another interpretation of how our energy dependency influenced historians to such conclusions. The declension may been be a part of a further hereto unfolding push to discredit such views.
In many ways, this latest trend of destroying information that doesn't suit the state, or whatever authority behind the state, is old hat, the only thing new these days is that we live in a world with the internet. For the most part, killing someone's image is more effective in killing their message without the martyrdom problem.
... is the cornerstone of decadence.
It actually started with the burning of the great library of Alexandria and the murder of Hypathia at the start of an era we call the Dark Ages when Christianity was born. Centuries of a murderous, and genocidal campaign was untaken to erase specific information from human knowledge and history.
I find it odd to read an article shared on /. starting with "Imagine a world where the book burners had won."
Could part of the problem be rooted in the nature of how the protagonists were fighting for basic principles challenged or perhaps infringed on by circumstances with real parallels in our society and/or that the fight could be viewed as motive or encouragement to fight these same parallels in our reality?
JMS:
I'm going out on a limb here. :) I hope only for the comments and particular view you hold in relation or thereabouts.
So if accept that the soul is a measurable discrete entity, and we accept that in lower energy forms it is to be placed in a vessel or body that then becomes it's "home" for the duration of time the vessel can contain it, until death, then clearly the soul is somewhat a localized entity. As a body dies and decomposes, returning its material to the land from which it came, we can easily assimilate an idea that a soul would also return to its source.
On earth, its arguable that the source of almost all life/energy is the sun; it illuminates and heats our world, it is the power behind photosynthesis from which emerges the basic essential and energy of all foods through the food chains. We can call the sun a sort of energy portal where energy and life passes into this realm. Presumably we can even extend this analogy to suppose that souls, as higher level energy patterns, also transit this portal when incarnating a body and possibly would transit back to source when the body/vessel containment aspects collapse at or about the moment of death.
A great deal has been claimed about sacred geometries present in some form in all things, especially living things, on earth. A few artificial things, artifacts, The pyramids of Gaza and the Aztecs have sacred geometries built in them. Personally, I find a sacred geometry of striking coincidence in the sky observing the moon. It has the exact same aspect size and shape as the sun, it only shows one face to earth, a result of another coincidence of having the same rotational period as orbital period, and recently speculation that it may be an artificial satellite of sorts that was put in place sometime between 20K BC and 15K BC raises further speculation about what it really is. One could put forth a claim that there are too many coincidences about its existence for it to be purely natural, and yet, if one where to look into the sky and gaze across the moon, most wouldn't notice it to be out of place.
But the coincidence of being of the same aspect size as the sun is the basis of my question to you being that its aspect size may be related to "antenna" type characteristics of another kind. Can you imagine, if energy could channeled in a similar way to energy that is channelled from the sun, operating with a function similar to a portal, such that this energy would attract a disoriented soul recently liberated from its body that has just died. Perhaps attract such a soul much like a candle attracts a moth. A trap of sorts, that prevents the soul from rejoining with its source on the other side of the natural portal, the sun? As a part of an intergalactic struggle? Have you heard of such a thing elsewhere?
Really?
Next mandate, fixed IPv6 IP addresses for all devices. Your devices and their IPv6 addresses get added to the definition of "who you are".
No more internet anonymity except when using a proxy.
Which proxies do you trust?
I think our "modern" notions of idealologies that describe a society, Communism and Capitalism, are both riddled with imperfection that manifests as the corruption that has destroyed them both. Corruption in our society is the thing that makes our idealologies imperfect and as a race we are too niave to accept that we are not as smart as we think we are, that our biggest enemy is human nature. That human nature is born harmless and innocent, but we soon grow out of that and I think that the expression "sinner" just means that we are imperfect. It is that imperfection that causes the corruption in our societies.
I hold that the ideas themselves are prefect. They have a necessary level of structure while leaving the rest open for implementation. Corruption enteres as part of that implementation; it's where the perfect idea becomes a tool for the to further channel those personal agendas.
I like your interpretation of sinner, but that too implies that submission to the greater and more perfect is mandated. A sort of, "know your place" and "fall into the pecking order" rationalization
Agree. I think what is at issue is what is the status quo? What is required to make it more fair to normal, everyday people whilst powerful people weild such influence.
Bingo.
I have a certain level of doubt that fair was ever the intention. Americans and Aussis always have taken the liberty to be oppressive in one form or another; Indigenous Native Americans 17 and 18 hundreds, aborigines, people of east temor, the idea that they would somehow take a stand against the oppression of their prole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Background [ see item III lower class ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell) is a break from culture and tradition.
The falacy of "We do not negotiate with terrorists" has to be challenged because the reality is it is promoting more terrorism. Unless it is a random act of violence, terrorists have a motivation and I want to know what it is that has made them violent so that maybe we can remove that motivation to commit terroist acts in the first place.
It must be this way, the question is who you define as a terrorist and how you treat those terrorists. On one occasion in the recent past when ultra orthodox Jews committed acts of violence and terror against their neighboring Palestinians, the Palestinians came out and declared those actions that of terrorists and denounced those perpetrators as terrorists. The Israelis' response was simple: "Yes their acts are that of terror, you can say they are terrorists, but we will not treat them as terrorists."
The point of negotiating with terror is an oxymoron in a way. Under fear, nobody rationalizes correctly and that's why that phrase has validity. However if you redefine the terms you have an inflection that only causes a degradation in the quality and level of communications. Perhaps it's for this reason that we hear that phrase so much more these days. The powers that be find it convenient to legitimize their declension of quality communications. They prefer that messages are sent by the exploding of bombs.
I think this is the difference between a Civillian and a Citizen. A Civilian will sit around, watching their sport, and take pot shots a people defending democracy as "political" or "whiners" or some other term. I beleive a Citizen is someone who participates in a democracy, not just by voting, but by writing letters to politicians and trying to change things for everyone in a peaceful way through the legislative process. They are the partners of democracy.
I applaud you initiative!
I will try something like writing to my representatives.
I don't know if I wrote this in my prior posting but Citizen is a title of nobility. ei "Citizen" John Dow or "Sargent" Bill McLearner or "Preside
A republic, by definition is a sovereign state where supreme power by the people and their representatives.
The USA (America) is in a bankrupt state operating under emergency powers, that supreme power is no longer held by the people or the representatives but rather the creditors owed.
It cannot be both bankrupt and sovereign, hence to call it a Democracy is more correct than to refer to it as a Republic of some sort.
Just out of curiosity, what is your country?
My view is you can't meet imperfection with any form of perfection. Since human beings are imperfect, no perfect system can be expected to work. That being said, the justice system can't be perfect because it exists to resolve disputes between imperfect people.
There are a few examples of "perfect" systems that fail miserably, communism is idealistically perfect and yet the now defunct Soviet Union's implementation was riddled with corruption and inequity. Native american Indians lived in a very harmonious society, along came the europeans and took up a plan to wipe them out. Human beings are born completely vulnerable, harmless and innocent but the christian church has declared that everyone is born a sinner.
The reason justice is sometimes misunderstood is because we equate justice to fairness or equality. The hard truth is that justice is simply the maintenance of a status quo. In areas where that status quo is not understood, justice in that area is also not likely to be understood. If some force has caused the status quo be altered than the justice system is there to examine whether the forces involved are lawful or not and what "punishment" or reparations are required to re-establish that status quo.
With more laws being passed with secret or classified clauses we can be sure the status quo is changing into something that is less equal, less fair and more fascist. But how those changes will effect lives of Americans is still too subjective an issue to say anything definitive except that we continue to depend on the good judgement of our public servants and citizenry to take those issues and smooth them over by continuing to work for the good of the people.
Personally, I can't share any sympathy for either of the two brothers; their methods have caused more damage to the cause for freedom and the persistance of those values in the Bill of Rights than they can imagine. Their actions make everyone think that a war on terror is a good idea. Besides that, they have left only suffering and grief in their wake and their legacy will stand as that of a public villan.
There is a way to restore freedom. But it isn't easy and most everyone needs to want such a restoration and be willing to pay a price. People need to see the value in seeking more perfection in themselves before that perfection can have an effect on the freedom issue.
I'm still formulating my ideas on this. Possible.
Ok 65 years. Timeline error aside, my point being nobody holds their dominance against them, rather to the contrary.
You are correct.
Plus, words that where defined one way have gradually had their official definition altered over the years... Try looking at how definitions of certain words have changed from Blacks Law 3rd edition to the 7th edition.
You want control of the law? You need only rewrite the dictionary. adverb-verb fictions are your friend.
This gradual and constant inflection leads to the declensions of the self-evident in all areas, not just how government interpretes the authority granted to it. These change of the presumptions and interpretations occur in a way that only invades that which is self-evident.
The fact is most of what happens in court is based on presumptions that are only known by a few. Another example of segregation through information.
The trick works because these changes are done over a 200 hundred years so that any one generation just labels it as "the changing of the times" whereas the actuality can be much more sinister. And all this is done in the name of progress.
Yeah, the problem is people put up fences so it's not as easy to cut across a field.
I agree with your points about the law needing to be respectable and your surrounding viewpoints.
Nothing wrong with rants on /. that's why it's here, although a word of caution. I wouldn't want to incite social disorder on a monitored online forum.
If a rev0lut!on of some sort is to happen, there needs to be a definite plan with a long term strategy. If your strategy is not sound, you risk committing your "fast adopter" contempt group into positions that will compromise those resources for no definite gain.
The best way to throw the bums out of office is to vote them out, but to do that, you need to put forth a champion who can withstand the election process and remain faithful to the true values of your movement.
The idea of a popular uprising needs to be done in a way that does not justify the use of armed forces to prevent social disruption. Regardless of any Weapons Ban Act or the such, the police and government are much much better suited to handle a fighting confrontation than a political one. They have all the guns and military leadership they need to take on entire countries. Throwing stones will just get you sent to the brig where you can contemplate whether the pain of getting shot in the shoulder or hip was worth it.
If you need proof: the Israelis successfully have managed to keep the Palestinians under control for more that 200 years through their various uprisings, and not because the Palestinians where not willing to give their lives for what they believed or because they are not organized, but because their strategy is to confront their opposition where they are strongest. Their strategy is to appeal to international sympathy. It does not work. Nobody is sympathetic to the trouble-makers.
People need to get organized in a political and economic way. The population need to channel their desire for change into an organization or organizations that can displace both political parties without succumbing to the temptations of corruption.
The people need to overcome the media induced fear, the propaganda on TV, and start to listen to a community leader who will obviously need to coordinate his/her community with the organizational goals. Because the issues are so polarizing, it should be quite a bit easier to put something together than if things where more moderate. But it still remains a monumental feat.
Yeah well, the trend is to tighten everything up. I think you are probably right. Another poster sent me a link that showed me the tragic reality of things.
A very very sad day for all of us.
I'm flabbergasted.
You win.
You are right, of course.
The point is, without community level organization, people (the public) are disorganized. The first step is to bring everyone together.
One community may be easily ignored, but how about an entire state of communities, or the majority of communities in most states.
Think of it like a large corporation, except that it's corporate goal is not profit, but the interests of its members.
I would call it a church, except that that term comes with too many pre-conceptions based on the Christianity. Instead of worshiping a deity and the sacrifice of our savior, the worship would be directed towards our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, the organization would work towards those ends.
The problem is people still think blowing stuff up or shooting is a better form of protest as though some savior would see the disperate plight behind such a protest and take constructive affirmative actions. That doesn't happen, the nail that sticks out get's hammered.
There is a reason our leaders have chosen to expand our prison infra rather than build new colleges.
Some people just figure, "hell with it" and do outrageous things and the rest of us get caught up with the TV based propaganda and become afraid to do anything, instead of take the first small steps.
Are you sure about that? or is it just semantics.
We certainly don't have a direct democracy; your vote is merely an optional symbolic show of support for your "representative". Voting is not even an obligation of a citizen; they don't even try to hide how little it really means, or the minimal value our opinions hold.
A citizen has 3 obligations: obey the law, pay taxes, and subject to jury duty. One for each branch of government. I don't see voting anywhere in that list as a symbolic type of action for government related "decision making".
If your representative incidentally speaks or acts on your behalf and you can do nothing to intercede since you have neither the place or the means to make a protest, does it matter what it's called if people view their rule a militaristic or representative type of governance?
How often are public protests or even public opinion on a topic simply ignored by our "representatives" as they carry on with their day to day?
So yes, they are our leaders and we depend on their decisions as leaders so that our futures may be secure. And as a final point the term "Senator" or "Representative" as prefixed to the name of an elected official in the senate or house is a title of nobility. Citizen is another one. Why do you think that is? Do you even know that the implications of titles of nobility are?
Are you suggesting that TSA has a presence in the non-existent train stations or that they put up checkpoints on our motorways?
Travel on an airplane.
Try renting a car and driving, you will not find your travel impeded in any way.
The constitution is alive and well; the First 7 articles are alive and very well. It's the bill of rights that was add as a compromise in 1792 so that a few state representatives would feel confortable with the document and sign that is "under fire".
However if you consider your rights to be self evident, you don't need a document defining those rights for you.
Understanding is not a requisite of cooperation or fulfillment of citizen related beneficiary obligations: obey the law, pay taxes and submit to jury duty. If you have a problem with the way government is conducting business, you should take more action about those issues than rant about stuff on /. or making suggestions that some hackers take actions that would threaten the dignity of our public servants or the policies they choose to implement. That type of action will only justify a reaction that will result in new policies that are more similar to the proverbial "shaved, sterilized and destroyed" processing of our remaining freedoms.
The single best way to make changes is to get people in your community organized in a way that can productively send a clear and constructive message to our leaders.
Nobody is denying anyone the right to travel. You can stick out a thumb and hitchhike no problem.
The issue is using the airport infrastructure to aid in your travelling activities...