Yes, they are teleline, Telefonica of Spain practically owns all internet traffic of Spain. Its funny reading this threads and bettter the nanae group were all the ppl shouts "change isp", well many ppl in Europe just CANT, for example in Spain, there are NO isps for adsl, because Telefonica stole my ip and changed it (of course it was only for my best interest) for a transparent proxy (at the moment they do this only for 80 port, so hence they arent an isp), so what can I do?? change to a....let me guess a reseller of Telefonica? Telefonica==Terra==Lycos==Teleline==A LL adsl of Spain (1.5M+ costumers). To this day I still dont undersntand why/. bans Spain??? Do commander taco & co expect that a 60$B company which has a monopoly will bother to listen to its costumers?? Here is bellow a copy of one of my emails I send to/. ban overlords
Dear Slashdot: On 8/17/2003 I send you a message about the ban you currently have to 80.58.7.170, that ip belongs to the proxy-cache of Telefonica of Spain , VIRTUALLY ALL adsl subscribers in my country (1.5+ Million) some way or another use Telefonicas proxy cache, Telefonica of Spain is the de-facto adsl monopoly in my country,all the other "isp" are really resellers of their product, so all here end behind their proxy cache, in Spain we cant scape Telefonicas proxy, so changing "isps" is in fact not possible in my country. Ok the current situation with/. in Spain is the following:
1) The front page always loads 2) When I click on a history 70% loads correctly (I am always logged) 3) 20% of pages I got the pink ban screen , but if I keep reloading the page with F5 (asking the proxy-cache to reload the page) i can get through the ban 4) 10% I cant pass the ban no matter how much I keep pressing F5, usually in http://developers.slashdot.org http://science .slashdot.org
This is very very frustrating and the worst part is I cant complain , Telefonica will do NOTHING whatsoever, they dont care, they have a monopoly (because the wire-network is theirs) and know that no other company are going to build a new network, so all they have is the perfect monopoly, so complaining to them is of no use. Ok I really dont know what troubles Telefonicas proxy cache causes to you, but coulnt you just arrange the following:
-When I press F5 and ask the proxy to reload a banned page, could your system detect that a logged user ask for the page and act accordingly? -The other solution I propose to you if the first is not possible is more radical, a TOTAL OSDN GLOBAL BAN on Telefonicas proxys that way I could call Telefonica and say that a bunch of pages dont load, and maybe they would fix their proxy cache, because with the current situation if I call Telefonica they will laugh at me, they will load the main page and see its displayed correctly etc.. and besides why you ban only some x.slashdot.org but not the whole domain, I dont see the point? . Believe if the whole slashdot.org and OSDN sites are banned people in Spain will take notice.
Thanks for your time and sorry for my bad english
Note: The suggestions of your pink page like "You might be using a proxy server that is also being used by another person who did something from the above list. You should have your proxy server administrator contact us."
Is absurd in a country like Spain with a company like Telefonica, again they just dont care, why should do they?. They know I cant cancel my adsl subscription, so why bother. And in fact is a bit US-centric in many many parts of Europe there is only real provider of adsl so the users cant complain (I say that because I and tired of reading n.a.n.a.e anti-spam goons and they always bable "change isps" thats a very easy thing to do in US but its impossible in Spain, and in fact in spain there ARE NOT ISPS for adsl, because my real IP (195.X.X.X) does not see 80 port, only Telefonica proxy cache is allowed to connect to the internet in Spain, sad but true......)
Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass) Why/. bans spain? Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product./. ban on spain lame (I tried once emailing/., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the/. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and/. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch) Note: All adsl in spain goes to port 80 using only a handful of IP adresses which/. is very kind to ban,thx very much. (and no its impossible to change that, i cant switch adsl provider because all of them are resellers of the main one, and since the main one uses a "transparent" proxy.....
[Sorry for the dupe, i messed up the thread] Slashdot.org bans Spain:( Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass) Why/. bans spain? Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product./. ban on spain lame (I tried once emailing/., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the/. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and/. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch)
Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass) Why/. bans spain? Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product./. ban on spain lame (I tried once emailing/., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the/. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and/. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch)
As a side note the score card with beber as my brother told me (an icc addict) is wrong beber only won 2 matches and the other 2 were disconections by fisher.
Check those games is worth the time.
To see what Short means about this moves
check this games against FIDE rated
masters on the ICC only Fisher could have done
that,besides my bother actualy talked with one of
the fellows of that matches and confirmed him that Fisher was his opponent
Fisher on ICC
Slashdot Mirror
plz send me one to null_a@I_hate_hotmail.hotmail.com
many thx
Yes, they are teleline, Telefonica of Spain practically owns all internet traffic of Spain. Its funny reading this threads and bettter the nanae group were all the ppl shouts "change isp", well many ppl in Europe just CANT, for example in Spain, there are NO isps for adsl, because Telefonica stole my ip and changed it (of course it was only for my best interest) for a transparent proxy (at the moment they do this only for 80 port, so hence they arent an isp), so what can I do?? change to a....let me guess a reseller of Telefonica?A LL adsl of Spain (1.5M+ costumers). /. bans Spain??? /. ban overlords
: ,all the /. in Spain is the following:
e .slashdot.org
Telefonica==Terra==Lycos==Teleline==
To this day I still dont undersntand why
Do commander taco & co expect that a 60$B company which has a monopoly will bother to listen to its costumers??
Here is bellow a copy of one of my emails I send to
Dear Slashdot
On 8/17/2003 I send you a message about the ban you currently have to 80.58.7.170, that ip belongs to
the proxy-cache of Telefonica of Spain , VIRTUALLY ALL adsl subscribers in my country (1.5+ Million) some way
or another use Telefonicas proxy cache, Telefonica of Spain is the de-facto adsl monopoly in my country
other "isp" are really resellers of their product, so all here end behind their proxy cache, in Spain we cant scape
Telefonicas proxy, so changing "isps" is in fact not possible in my country. Ok the current situation with
1) The front page always loads
2) When I click on a history 70% loads correctly (I am always logged)
3) 20% of pages I got the pink ban screen , but if I keep reloading the page with F5 (asking the proxy-cache to
reload the page) i can get through the ban
4) 10% I cant pass the ban no matter how much I keep pressing F5, usually in
http://developers.slashdot.org
http://scienc
This is very very frustrating and the worst part is I cant complain , Telefonica will do NOTHING whatsoever,
they dont care, they have a monopoly (because the wire-network is theirs) and know that no other company
are going to build a new network, so all they have is the perfect monopoly, so complaining to them is of no use.
Ok I really dont know what troubles Telefonicas proxy cache causes to you, but coulnt you just arrange the following:
-When I press F5 and ask the proxy to reload a banned page, could your system detect that a logged user ask for the
page and act accordingly?
-The other solution I propose to you if the first is not possible is more radical, a TOTAL OSDN GLOBAL BAN on Telefonicas proxys that way I could call Telefonica and say that a bunch of pages dont load, and maybe they would fix their proxy cache, because with the current situation if I call Telefonica they will laugh at me, they will load the main page and see its displayed correctly etc..
and besides why you ban only some x.slashdot.org but not the whole domain, I dont see the point? . Believe if the whole slashdot.org and OSDN sites are banned people in Spain will take notice.
Thanks for your time and sorry for my bad english
Note: The suggestions of your pink page like
"You might be using a proxy server that is also being used by another person who did something from the above list. You should have your proxy server administrator contact us."
Is absurd in a country like Spain with a company like Telefonica, again they just dont care, why should do they?. They know I cant cancel my adsl subscription, so why bother. And in fact is a bit US-centric in many many parts of Europe there is only real provider of adsl so the users cant complain (I say that because I and tired of reading n.a.n.a.e anti-spam goons and they always bable "change isps" thats a very easy thing to do in US but its impossible in Spain, and in fact in spain there ARE NOT ISPS for adsl, because my real IP (195.X.X.X) does not see 80 port, only Telefonica proxy cache is allowed to connect to the internet in Spain, sad but true......)
Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass) /. bans spain? /. ban on spain lame /., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the /. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and /. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch) /. is very kind to ban ,thx very much. (and no its impossible to change that, i cant switch adsl provider because all of them are resellers of the main one, and since the main one uses a "transparent" proxy .....
Why
Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product.
(I tried once emailing
Note: All adsl in spain goes to port 80 using only a handful of IP adresses which
[Sorry for the dupe, i messed up the thread] :( /. bans spain? /. ban on spain lame /., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the /. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and /. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch)
Slashdot.org bans Spain
Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass)
Why
Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product.
(I tried once emailing
Yep, I am tired of getting the dreaded pink slashdot screen (DPSS), after hitting several times F5 it loads the page correctly (weirdly developers.slashdot.org is the hardest to bypass) /. bans spain? /. ban on spain lame /., one of the addresses listed in the DPSS, but to no avail , the /. admin want me to contact my adsl proxy administrator and from there the Telefonica "techies" (another joke) and /. admin resolve the matter, what a JOKE any one in Spain will LOL at that thought, its impossible to talk to any one in Telefonica, they have a monopoly and frankly they dont care about each users because they know we CANT switch)
Why
Yep I know my evil "isp" hijacked the internet and put a transparent firewall but I CANT switch "isp" there is only one "real" adsl provider in spain Telefonica, the other ones are resellers of the same product.
(I tried once emailing
As a side note the score card with beber as my brother told me (an icc addict) is wrong beber only won 2 matches and the other 2 were disconections by fisher.
Check those games is worth the time.
Hope this works now
Fisher on ICC
Woahh some lameness filter hoe this avoid it
To see what Short means about this moves ,besides my bother actualy talked with one of
t m]
check this games against FIDE rated
masters on the ICC only Fisher could have done
that
the fellows of that matches and confirmed him that Fisher was his opponent
Fisher on ICC
[http://www.chlodwig.com/Fischer/Fi_Games_ICC.h