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roadies writes "Despite all the negativity and privacy concerns that surround Gmail, it has still gained cult-like status where net-d0rks feel self validated by having a gmail address and will do anything to get one. Services like the Gmail Machine, a randomized Gmail lotto that has people hitting refresh until they get carpel-tunnel in the index finger, reports over 7 million pageviews (though, definitely not uniques) in 3 days and 55 invites given away. They just added 222 more through donators who have given up invites in exchange for a text link on the high-traffic site. GmailSwap (covered recently on /.) has given away everything from cameras to good vibes. Good news for hardpressed geeks: The invites are becoming more and more available and mainstream. Ebay once had gmail invites going for a couple hundred dollars. Now, nobody is bidding on them anymore, so you can purchase one the old-fashioned eBay way for a dollar or two." Reader marklyon writes "Third party developers have stepped in with utilities that enhance and improve GMail. One utility, Mbox & Maildir to Gmail Loader allows users to upload their existing email to their GMail account. Another, POP Goes the GMail, offers the ability to access your GMail account with any POP mail reader, giving users the ability to permanently archive messages. GTray lives in your taskbar and alerts you to incoming messages. Other, more general programs, allow you to forward your Hotmail or Yahoo! Mail messages to your new GMail account. The question that remains, however, is whether Google will work with or against third party developers in GMail's future."

693 comments

  1. My experiences with Gmail invitations by Frisky070802 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I got a gmail account relatively early (early in April) from a friend at Google. I use it mostly for mailing lists, not quite ready to put all my personal mail on it, especially when until this article I had no idea how to download Gmail for use when disconnected.

    Initially I got a couple of invitations I could give away, every couple of weeks, and it was easy to find close friends to give them to. Then I found I had seven invitations this week and had run out of obvious candidates. I tried gmailswap, but the interesting ones (like a pound of Kona coffee) went too quickly, and the others were uninteresting to me. So I sent a note to my orkut friends, and quickly had well over a dozen requests for accounts despite including a disclaimer pointing to gmail-is-too-creepy.com :). I gave away the ones I had, and surprisingly got a few more the very next day. I still have a queue of about 5 people I owe accounts to.

    PS. This was a really, really nice Slashdot article, with a treasure trove of gmail information. Well done.

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    1. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 0

      May I have a GMail invite please :) It would make my day. Want my e-mail in a reply? Puuuuuuuuuuuurty please?

    2. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by caramelcarrot · · Score: 1

      I just got an invite from my friend. So of course the first thing I do it check for all the mathematical constants (duh). Managed to get two that weren't taken ;) Oh right, actually use gmail as an email service? Maybe, if I want to get the chicks at math gatherings. *cough*. It'll come in useful for some things, like forum signups, I guess... but I already have enough real email addresses.

    3. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by roadies · · Score: 1

      Thanks Frisky!

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    4. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll give 3 GMail accounts to the first 3 people to reply to reply to this post (with an e-mail address to send the invite to).

      POST NOW!

    5. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Cais · · Score: 0

      scootsmcgee@hotmail.com Yar.

    6. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Probably worth a shot:

      Please send me a GMail account!
      email: connard@palmdrive.net

      Thanks in advance.

    7. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by tabacco · · Score: 1

      tabacco@ucsc.edu -- it's worth a try :)

    8. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'll bite ....
      awkmayle at yahoo.com
      Thanks
    9. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      edgy@dslextreme.com

    10. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by dealsites · · Score: 1

      Somebody hook me up with a gmail code please. Contact me here

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    11. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by puck01 · · Score: 1

      My experience has been similar. For the most part, I've received 3 invites a week. This week I've received a total of nine to give away (all in the last 3 days), and I still have plently of people waiting at the doorstep for more. I'm half expecting to get somemore tonight....time will tell

    12. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      pwelch@gmail.com.

      Just kidding.

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    13. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cais, Pieroxy and tabacco where the first 3 to reply. They have all been sent GMail invitations (I even sent one to awkmayle the 4th poster).

      In return I hope you guys send me an invite or two back in good time.

      Have fun!

    14. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 0

      scootsmcgee@hotmail.com isn't a valid address. It just bounced. Give me a valid address or I'll post the invite link here for you :P

    15. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Kalgash · · Score: 5, Interesting
      That gmail-is-creepy site is run by the dude who also runs the equally paranoid and whacked-out http://www.google-watch.org site.

      See Google-Watch Watch for details on the creepy paranoid dude and then go back and read his rantings with a large-ass grain of salt.

      For those who still think email is secure I got news for you: Your email is already exposed in plain text on just about any server it is sent to. If your email is ever relayed through a third party server (and a lot of mail is) then chances are an unscrupulous admin has already read your messages or at least stored a copy.

      What GMail does by comparison is relatively tame. The adds are inserted at display time. All email is parsed to more effectively block spam. No human will ever read your email.

      Don't take my word or the word of some kook with issues.

      Read the Gmail privacy policy

      EXCERPT BELOW:

      Email contents and usage. The contents of your Gmail account also are stored and maintained on Google servers in order to provide the service. Google's computers process the information in your email for various purposes, including formatting and displaying the information to you, delivering targeted related information (such as advertisements and related links), preventing unsolicited bulk email (spam), backing up your email, and other purposes relating to offering you Gmail. Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the public.

    16. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Thank you so much man!

      I so beleived it was a hoax, but hey, nothing to loose right?

      You ARE the man.

    17. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Cais · · Score: 1

      Haven't gotten mine =|. Guess hotmail hates me or something.

    18. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 1

      Read the reply to your post! The hotmail account you gave wasn't valid!

    19. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by nacturation · · Score: 1

      A bit late, but send it to gmail@mailinator.com :)

      Heh, I don't need it... got an invite from Google about a week ago. :)

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    20. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Cais · · Score: 1

      Sorry, looks like it expired on me >_. Try now. scootsmcgee@hotmail.com

    21. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by mindwar · · Score: 1

      drag0s31337@yahoo.com please:)?

    22. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 1

      Okay, sent you one too. But only for spurring me to write Quicksort in assembler :P

      Sorry to everyone else who is after one, I'm all out now!

    23. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 1

      I sent it again, hasn't bounced /yet/. This must an example of the Hotmail-disliking-GMail rumours that have been going about!

    24. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by puck01 · · Score: 1

      i'll let you know if i get extras.

    25. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm sure some enterprising soul will login to mailinator and grab it. In case you didn't get the reference (and the reason for the smiley), mailinator allows anyone to check email without using a password. So somebody will surely benefit from the invite. :)

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    26. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Stalke · · Score: 1

      I was hesitant to ask but since my email already get's enough small I'll put a request in anyways. If you have an extra invite I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

      mrtreibe@engmail.uwaterloo.ca

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    27. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by QuaZar666 · · Score: 1

      yep someone surely will ;) <evil grin>

    28. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bhsx · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just openned my account a few minutes ago. Thanks for the "creepy" link, but they make it painstakingly clear about how they sort the data to target adds and the search capabilities. As I see it, they've basically added some rich features and changed everything to the point where it really doesn't feel like email anymore. Gmail may really spark some interesting new concepts in GUI email clients. Adding some of these abilities into Thunderbird or KMail might really end up benefiting users; and give'm a jump on MS, who will obviously be "borrowing" concepts for Longhorn.
      Anyway, I digress; but I'm really excited about getting to use what looks like a really cool system.

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    29. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Doomie · · Score: 1

      Well, in case your soul is kind enough to give away a spare invitation to a poor student who has nothing else to do at 3am, then just drop me a line at d.erhan@iu-bremen.de

      Many thanks in advance!

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    30. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 1

      Well, tabacco@ucsc.edu and awkmayle@yahoo.com have yet to use their invites.

      Here's a new competition for you. The first person to e-mail bendelo@gmail.com and tell me what colour my garage door is (and how they came to find out) will get a GMail account.

    31. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by ari{Dal} · · Score: 1

      I just gave away a bunch at gmail4u too.. if you want to send me two contacts, i'll pass on a few invites. Post email addys as replies to this post (with obligatory @nospam info of course :)

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    32. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by illumin8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ... and quickly had well over a dozen requests for accounts despite including a disclaimer pointing to gmail-is-too-creepy.com :)

      I too am a Gmail beta user, and I've been very pleased with the service. Setup my .forward file to send a copy to my Gmail box, and set my reply-to address to be my private email, and I'm all set. Now I can switch between Gmail and Mail.app on my Powerbook lickety split.

      I wanted to bring up something else that I just came across that was kind of strange. I agree that the people freaking out over adwords is a little over the top, but I found this article that brings up a very interesting point:

      "Moreover, like any e-mail provider, the text of your Gmail is stored and subject to subpoena. I can envision a situation where an advertiser, paying Google hundreds of thousands of dollars, claims that Google failed to "insert" its ads in relevant e-mails, or inserted a competitor's ads instead (or in addition to, or more prominently). In the course of the ensuing litigation, wouldn't both the ads themselves and the text of the messages into which they were inserted be relevant, and therefore discoverable? I can't imagine why not."

      I generally believe Google is a good company, but this argument actually got me thinking.

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    33. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Ed+Thomson · · Score: 1

      daf_warren@h-o-t-m-a-i-l.com

    34. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      Silly wabbit, tricks are for kids.

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    35. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by MarcoPon · · Score: 1

      It's worth trying... :)

      marcopon !removeme! @myrealbox.com

      In exchange I may send you a nice postcard from Venice or Dolomiti mountains! :)

      Thx,
      Bye!

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    36. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by EvanED · · Score: 1

      eed (one) (three) (two) at psu dot edu

      Drop the spaces

      (one) meas 1, etc.

      Many thanks if you have enough ;-)

    37. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by rffmna · · Score: 0
      sorry, I posted somewhere up there..

      if someone of you, including those who just received an invite, has an invite, please send it to rffmna at hotmail dot com.

      peace!

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    38. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by EvanED · · Score: 1

      And ignore the email I have this account registered to; I don't use it much. Checked it once in like the last year.

    39. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Magic5Ball · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And this thread is how some spammer out there just received a high-quality, targetted list of addresses. Ironic, no?

      -M5B

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    40. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by MarcoPon · · Score: 1

      If you got one more invite... :)

      marcopon !removeme! @myrealbox.com

      As a symbolic exchange, I can send a nice postcard of Venice, or some mountain locations in the northern Italy! :)

      Thx,
      Bye!

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      SeqBox
    41. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Doomie · · Score: 1

      I already receive 100 spams per day. I don't thik it will really make a difference in the end

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    42. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hook me up? gmail(at)clue4all.net .

    43. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry - gotta get home first.
      - slashdot - ok at work.
      - yahoo mail - blocked.
      thanks, awkmayle

    44. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i recently sent this email to myself using gmail. does this mean the fbi will be after me now? subject: when are we going to bomb the whitehouse tnt airlines? body: how about those explosives terrorists fbi? they are really bombing spy osama terrorist. double agent cia bush president? oh well. september 11th. towers. airlines. bomb kill bush blow up white house detonate nuclear warhead. Weapons of mass destruction. biological warefare. anthrax. hitler. Al Qaeda. Cheney. Secret. pentagon Taliban big brother. bible. IF YOUR THE FBI READING THIS YOU HAVE BEEN SUCKERED INTO THINKING THAT THIS IS SOME SORT OF TERRORIST EMAIL. NOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE AND GIVE ME MY PRIVACY. IF YOU READ THIS EMAIL IS YOUR OWN FUCKING FAULT. NO ONE GAVE YOU ACCESS TO IT BITCH. Have a nice day.

    45. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by JPriest · · Score: 0

      ContactPriest at hotmail.com

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    46. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by lnjasdpppun · · Score: 1

      mln_necromancer@h-o-t-m-a-i-l.com

      Very much appreciated if I could get an invite.

      --Mancer

    47. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by zors · · Score: 1

      Ya know, its not enough that i have to worry about people seeing what i get in my email, now i have to worry about them seeing the ads i get with my email too....sheesh

    48. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by SlashSim · · Score: 1


      Yahoo filed my invite in my 'Bulk' folder. Made me laugh.

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    49. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If and when you have another, I'd really appreciate an invite to leonard99 at yahoo.com. Thank you _very_ much!

    50. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by VertigoAce · · Score: 1

      Weird... GMail let me use the invite link that you gave out, but when I try to log in it says the invitation expired. If you click on the original invite link, it says it was used to create my account. I can request password changes and sign in to other google services, but I don't get the actual email account.

    51. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Jim+Starx · · Score: 1
      I'd much apreciate an invite if you could throw one my way :)

      dj_starx2000 at yahoo dot com

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    52. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by VertigoAce · · Score: 1

      This was supposed to be in reply to Bendelo's comment about the garage door (/. messed up, from the color of the link I definitely clicked the right comment). Anyway, it seems they are just very slow at activating accounts. It works just fine now.

    53. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Valen0 · · Score: 1

      Seeing that the GMail craze has hit Slashdot now, I think I will jump off the big bridge as well.

      Send invites to: gmail[AT]valendomain[DOT]org

      Thank you for your patronage and time.

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    54. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may be a dumb question, but where do you get invites from? Just from friends at Google? Do you get a weekly supply?

    55. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone could get free GMAIL invitations from http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/gmail-watc h/blogger.html :-)

    56. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      is is too late to put in a me too?

      spambait@ForgottenNewbies.com

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    57. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by garbs · · Score: 1

      garbutt at garbs.org

    58. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Peaceful_Patriot · · Score: 1

      Probably too late, but any 'leftover invitations' can be sent to

      g0ldnugget AT yahoo.com

      Thanks

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    59. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by mindwar · · Score: 1

      drag0s31337[at]yahoo.com

    60. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by xiphy · · Score: 1

      xiph @ freemail dot hu

    61. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by bendelo · · Score: 1

      Well done to everyone who found it. There was a GMail invitation on the page (that happened to mention garage door colour). Anyway, 'Roman Sheydvasser' and 'Sean Barnes' both found it simultaneously. Sean was first to register an account, but Roman had been in e-mail contact first, so I sent him one too.

      Ok guys, that's it. I've given out 8 GMail accounts, I have no more!

    62. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I highly doubt that. (IANAL, though).

      First, I'm fairly certain that YOUR privacy ranks WAY higher than any company's supposed "right" to a profit.

      Secondly, the only way the advetiser would find out is by setting up a mail account of their own, and then sending mail to themself, trying to find out wether or not it's working. They could then easily save copies of the web-views, and use those.

      Thirdly, such a lawsuit would be a civil matter, and I doubt that you can just get a judge to sign over a subpoena to go searching though million of people's mail. This relates to point number one.

      This is of course dependent on the legal system, and we've all seen that they're very keen on protecting our rights, right?

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    63. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by andy+landy · · Score: 1

      Odd. I logged into gmail@mailinator.com and used the invite and now have a gmail account. I *refuse* to believe that I could be the first person from the slashdot community to try this link, so who knows...

      Did anyone else get a gmail account out of that link?

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    64. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Spietje · · Score: 1

      To all you /.-people out there: I would like to get my hands on a gmail-account. Can anyone send an invite to me?

    65. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by hamsterdude · · Score: 1

      Just an observation on google-watch-watch.org: The site takes a long time to explain that google reflects the public's opinion, using the example of typing in "hamburgers" to see whether MacDonalds.com or BurgerKing.com is more popular... well, have a look, I was pleasantly suprised at the public's favourite hamburgers [Google.com]

    66. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1

      No, it's gone now, so apparently you were the first to try it. When you get your first invite, can I have one? Please? ;) You can send it to gmail@drfrog.net (it'll be forwarded to my main account and that way I'll know what it is right away). Assuming you're game, thanks!

    67. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Would love to get away from my
      kvan1 <!-AT-> hotmail <!-DOT-> com
      account if there's gmail invite available :-) Thanks
    68. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      OK - I know _really late_, but I'm in Denmark.

      Would love to get away from my
      kvan1 <!-AT-> hotmail <!-DOT-> com
      account if there's gmail invite available :-)

      Thanks
    69. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Anyone who can spare a GMail account invite pls. mail your invite to cpanand@spymac.com Many thanks

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    70. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by snoopypro · · Score: 1

      I would also like to ask, if there's another extra invite. It would be much appreciated. Many thanks.

    71. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by illumin8 · · Score: 3, Informative

      IANAL either, but...

      First, I'm fairly certain that YOUR privacy ranks WAY higher than any company's supposed "right" to a profit.

      This is simply not the case. When you agree to the terms of Google Mail, it specifically says that your email will be provided to any court if they are given a subpoena. Right to privacy be damned; if a court issues a subpoena, Google will pony up the data, rather than be found in contempt of court.

      Thirdly, such a lawsuit would be a civil matter, and I doubt that you can just get a judge to sign over a subpoena to go searching though million of people's mail. This relates to point number one.

      Yes, you can. In a civil matter, discovery allows both the plaintiff and defendant to subpoena corporate data and documents that apply to the case. If the case involved a dispute over adwords, the subpoena might very well include "the contents of all messages that triggered the customer's ads to appear." Google would have no choice but to comply.

      For an example of this, look at the SCO vs. IBM case. This is a civil matter as well, and both SCO and IBM have been subpoenaing millions of documents and source code and probably emails from each other as well.

      Having said all of that, I don't want you to think I'm paranoid or anything. I use Gmail every day now, and I don't really care if they read my email or not. The reason why is because email is going in plaintext over the wire every day and Carnivore is probably already reading everything I send and receive anyway. Who cares about Google reading my email? I'm much more worried about the FBI reading it and building a profile on me.

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    72. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by kaiidth · · Score: 1

      Joining the big bridge leap:

      kaiidth at (NOSPAM!) altern[dot] org

      Thanks, generous person to become my future benefactor... (well, one can hope!)

    73. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by mindphasr · · Score: 1

      plllllease? Anyone have an invite? relux@failedsecurity.com.

    74. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's true, moderators have *no* sense of humor. :( Anybody else think it's funny that I posted a link that was cloaked so that slashdot would print "googlesyndicate" as the domain and led to a wiki entry about goatse? I thought it would be pretty funny, and somewhat on topic (since the topic *is* google).

      Maybe I should finally accept mod points. Nah, I don't want to give up my sense of humor, even if nobody else likes it. ;)

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    75. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by William+Tanksley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ads aren't inserted into messages -- they're displayed alongside them, and can be different every time the message is displayed. If Google is actually recording which emails get which ads, they're wasting disk space and risking subpoenas like the one you describe, for NO reason.

      So no, I don't think that what you're saying is a possible result. All you could subpoena from Google is the emails they hold, the ads they're currently serving (with no connection between the two, because there IS none), and the number of times each ad has been served; and I don't see ANY way a judge would allow that kind of shotgun subpoena.

      -Billy

    76. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by SandManMattSH · · Score: 1

      Can I get an invite? My e-mail address is mathbymath@aol.com . PLEASE ??? :) :) :) :)

    77. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by (.FIN.)+Tommi · · Score: 1

      Can i have invite?

    78. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by njan · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have more :p

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    79. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could i get a gmail invite if someone has any ? please? i have been looking for one forever, and no luck. Please? sniperrfl1011@yahoo.com if anyone is generous enough. thanks in advance

    80. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by mulberry · · Score: 1

      I have setup a blog for sharing gmail invitations, that lets you painlessly send an email and automatically posts your invite to the blog. In 2 days, about 50 invitations have been posted there.

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    81. Re:My experiences with Gmail invitations by spiinx · · Score: 1

      This is worth a shot: Please send me gmail invitations: ml_chinoy@hotmail.com

  2. Waning excitement by SIGALRM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it has still gained cult-like status

    OK, I was one of the sheeple who used to go a few times weekly to the gmail website to check things out.

    But I awoke earlier this week to my Yahoo premium account suddenly offering two, not one, gigabytes of email storage... and all without the (overblown) privacy concerns and advertising. *And* I only pay $19.95/yr. for it.

    I'm not (or at least don't need to be) interested in Gmail anymore. I've moved on and Yahoo has succeeded in taking the wind out of Gmail's sails, at least for me.

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    1. Re:Waning excitement by Frisky070802 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      GMail offers 1GB for free, compared to 2GB for $20/yr. Maybe $20/yr isn't too much, but I think the free model still has some juice left. Not to mention the nice threading model and top-notch searching.

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    2. Re:Waning excitement by MikeXpop · · Score: 1, Interesting

      And I awoke a couple weeks ago to the fact that my webmail provider provides not one gig. Not two gigs. Not 5 gigs, but unlimited space. *And* I only pay $0 for it.

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    3. Re:Waning excitement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy, I hope that extra 100MB of space is work $20/yr. I meandered over to my oft-neglected yahoo account to find 100MB of space, and I don't pay a thing for it. Using like 0.2% or something.

    4. Re:Waning excitement by SIGALRM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Boy, I hope that extra 100MB of space is work $20/yr

      Actually, it's 1000MB of additional space. And you don't pay the $20 for the storage (hell, it wasn't even there a week ago), but for the ad-free UI.

      That said, I'm sure the searching/message thread stuff is sweet.

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    5. Re:Waning excitement by Catcher80 · · Score: 1

      who the hell is your webmail provider? lol

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    6. Re:Waning excitement by Unnngh! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah but my FREE yahoo account has 100MB storage, more than the account that I get (pay for) with my cable modem subscription. 100MB of email is really more than I need for personal use.

    7. Re:Waning excitement by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      Lemme guess, you run the mail server on your own machine?

      If so the space is limited by your HD space ;)

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    8. Re:Waning excitement by MikeXpop · · Score: 1
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    9. Re:Waning excitement by tji · · Score: 1

      I'm a long time Yahoo Mail user. And, it's pretty good for a webmail system, but certainly nothing special. After getting a Gmail account a few weeks ago, I quickly moved all my mail to it as my primary account.

      It has too many advertisements, relatively small storage space, poor organization/filing/filtering capabilities, and is not as user friendly as e-mail applications.

      Google mail has it beat in almost every way. The user interface is leaps and bounds ahead of Yahoo. GMail has keyboard shortcuts to do most operations (once you get familiar with it, you'll buzz along like in elm or pine), it has auto-tab-completion of addresses from your contact list, and the interface is very fast because it uses no graphics.

      The filtering/labelling capabilities are excellent (e.g. If I get a message from the KAME IPSec mailing list, skip the inbox, and label it "IPSec" , then the IPSec label displays the number of unread messages in parentheses next to the name).

      It displays message "snippets" after the subject line. So, you can see the first bit of the e-mail message body before opening it. This is great for avoiding spam.

      GMail is not just another "me too" service. It's a well thought out service, obviously designed by people with a mind for efficiency (probably Unix users, juding by the 'j' and 'k' keyboard shortcuts for up & down).

    10. Re:Waning excitement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just so you know, Firefox + AdBlock blocks all the ads on Yahoo for free. The only reason I'd pay $20 is to get the POP3 access. But then again, I already use Firefox 99% of the time; if you used IE or Opera a lot I could see getting it for the lack of ads.

    11. Re:Waning excitement by eeg3 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the nice threading model

      A lot of people that I've talked to find the threading model to be annoying. I particularly avoid gmail for regular email just because of it.

      However, it is really nice for mailing lists. I hope they eventually decide to give you an option to pick between normal listing and their threading model. Who knows, maybe they will, it is still in beta. For now, I use my gmail account solely for bugtraq and the sort.

    12. Re:Waning excitement by Peaceful_Patriot · · Score: 1

      My free yahoo email account has suddenly blossomed from 4 mgs to 100 mgs, & up to 10 mgs per message. Think they must be feeling the heat.

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    13. Re:Waning excitement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gmail isnt just about the space, the hole search, labels and other stuff kicks ass, to me. Yahoo are just trying to catch up - they could do much more for their user base if they really cared.

    14. Re:Waning excitement by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1

      Why do people think exposing themselves to targeted email is "free"?

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    15. Re:Waning excitement by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      It costs me no money and 99% of the time I don't even notice the ads. (Not what Google wants to hear, perhaps, or that's what's expected.)

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      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    16. Re:Waning excitement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Yahoo e-mail account has 100 megabytes instead of 100 milligrams. What's wrong with yours?

    17. Re:Waning excitement by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
      It's amazing that people think "costing no money" equals "free." And I don't mean free as in libre, either, though that is another problem.

      In the Prophet Isaiah is the call:

      • Ho! Everyone who thirsts, come to the waters, And you who have no money; Come, buy and eat; Yes, come, buy wine and milk Without money and without price.
      I recall this verse when I hear of sales pitches telling me to buy something for free. Yeah, there may not be a monetary layout for some good or service but I'm paying something for it -- whether time, privacy, convenience, opportunity cost, etc. Once I would never imagine paying someone to mow my yard and keep it nice; now I can't afford not to do so -- I'm too busy with work and family (and my kids are to young to participate in mowing, triming, edging to make it a family event) to mow the small yard I'm responsible for. In other words, these non-monetary costs may not hold value for everyone, but to some money is less valuable than these treasures.

      While the biblical call to "buy" without price is a real bargain (thus those receiving the free gift of God in the New Testament are now "bought with a price" as Paul tells it in 2 Corinthians; the "Arise, the holy bargain strike / the fragment for the whole" as the hymnist said) those from commercial entities are dubious.

      Remember NetZero and the ad-driven web of the late 90's? The bubble burst for a reason. "Free" isn't.

      Know the costs.

      This post written using Xandros 2.0 Deluxe, a debian-based Linux distribution which I bought for $89. I support free software.

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      -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
    18. Re:Waning excitement by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1
      An insightful comment.

      However, I stand by my comment, which after all was: It costs me no money and 99% of the time I don't even notice the ads. So, I wasn't saying it was free, I was saying I wouldn't have signed up had it cost me money. And as for the privacy aspects, this is part of why the only mail I send there is bulk mail, so I don't much care who sees it.

      Finally, I don't view the privacy cost in the targeted ads as being a big deal. I'm used to the ads when doing web searches, and here they are infrequent, unobtrusive, and usually appropriate for some definition of appropriate. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with the lawyer whose gmail ads point at other lawyers.

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    19. Re:Waning excitement by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1

      Fair enough! I pay for my Yahoo Premium email account and I still get "non-graphical" ads. So, I'd take a GMail account in a minute!

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      -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  3. I'm lost by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Educate a rube.

    What's so big about Gmail, anyway? Is it the gigabyte of storage? The allure of using something offered by Google? The excitement of being admitted to a semi-exclusive online club?

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    1. Re:I'm lost by Frisky070802 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      What's so big about Gmail, anyway? Is it the gigabyte of storage? The allure of using something offered by Google? The excitement of being admitted to a semi-exclusive online club?

      Perhaps all three, but I think after using Gmail for a couple of months, the idea that I can quickly search the full content of everything I've received is nice; the threaded conversations are really cool; and the sharp user interface is pretty nice.

      On the other hand, the filter model doesn't cut it for me. Tagging things with a label but leaving them in an "inbox" makes it hard to find the good stuff. Maybe if I could "star" incoming messages based on criteria as well?

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      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    2. Re:I'm lost by wo1verin3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Personally I love the following:

      1) It's webmail like the ORIGINAL hotmail before MS tookover. Few ads, non popups, just gets you to your business

      2) Google search for your e-mail, nice and fast. Beats the hell outta Eurora and Outlook searching

      3) Threaded e-mails. I sent out an e-mail to a group of 10 friends, they all responded, I responded to some, etc. It all gets stored in ONE thread.

    3. Re:I'm lost by Megor1 · · Score: 1

      It's not even 1 gig of storage, its only 1000 mb. I expect this sort of thing from marketers at Maxtor but not from the geek phds at google!

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    4. Re:I'm lost by gooberguy · · Score: 1

      Is it the gigabyte of storage? The allure of using something offered by Google? The excitement of being admitted to a semi-exclusive online club?

      Yes, yes, and yes.

      --


      Karma: Meh (Mostly from meh.)
    5. Re:I'm lost by Wild+Bill+TX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it is indeed 1024 MB. I heard about somebody who filled up their Gmail account (sorry, I have no link) and got the message at the bottom to say, "You have used 101% of your 1000 MB." They probably just call it 1000 MB so as to not confuse those who do not know that 1 GB is 1024 MB, which is totally lame.

    6. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      According to what I see here, you're wrong - google gives 1000mb, not 1024. (Look for the image halfway down the screen)

    7. Re:I'm lost by timothv · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and he's storing 1023 megs.

    8. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      look at the percentage used, moron

    9. Re:I'm lost by smellygeek · · Score: 1

      What kind of /. geek are you? You don't know what the appeal of Gmail is? HELLO?! Have you been living in a cave somewhere?

      Don't worry, me too.

    10. Re:I'm lost by timothv · · Score: 1

      he's storing over the percentage used, moron

    11. Re:I'm lost by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1
      Tagging things with a label but leaving them in an "inbox" makes it hard to find the good stuff. Maybe if I could "star" incoming messages based on criteria as well?

      You can.
    12. Re:I'm lost by cmacb · · Score: 1

      "On the other hand, the filter model doesn't cut it for me. Tagging things with a label but leaving them in an "inbox" makes it hard to find the good stuff. Maybe if I could "star" incoming messages based on criteria as well?"

      You don't leave things in your inbox (unless you really want to). Check all the messages that you don't want in your inbox and then click ARCHIVE. If you have not labeled such a message then it will only be visible in the pseudo folder "ALL MAIL", or by doing a string search.

      A friend of mine said he couldn't live without folders. I explained to him that the label system has exactly the same effect.

      There is only ONE thing that folders can do that labels can't (that I can think of) and that is create multiple copies of the same message in several different folders. For that reason I think the label system is better. You delete a message and it's deleted, no matter how many labels you attached to it. If you have a complex and redundant folder set-up you could delete a message from a folder and not remember that you had 3 copies of it elsewhere. Multiple copies of a message would also confuse the threading scheme they have.

      Really I think this is an example of a new thing being better, but people used to the old thing not having figured it out yet. Google needs to put a lengthy tutorial out there I think to explain things like this. Maybe they are counting on the invitation system to provide hand-holding for new users at first.

    13. Re:I'm lost by EvanED · · Score: 0

      Um, you just confirmed what your parent said...

    14. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) It's webmail like the ORIGINAL hotmail before MS tookover. Few ads, non popups, just gets you to your business

      Christ, is anybody still thinking of "no popups" as a feature? It's 2004. Use a decent browser with popup blocking (in other words, anything but Internet Explorer), or, if you are stuck with that monstrosity, install the Google toolbar.

      Popups are not something you have to live with.

    15. Re:I'm lost by jbarr · · Score: 1

      Dude, that's what the "Archive" button is for! Basically, every message is tagged with a hidden "Inbox" Label. When you click Archive, it simply removes that Label. If you have assigned another Label, then that message will appear in the corresponding Label's view. If not, that message, along with all Labeled messages, appears in the "All Mail" view.

      Learn to use "Archive"--it really keeps your Inbox clean!

      Go to my GmailTips.com site for some more Gmail Tips!

      --
      My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
    16. Re:I'm lost by jbarr · · Score: 1

      No one feature really stands out, but Gmail's Search, Labels, Conversations, Filters, and fast interface work in concert to leverage the 1GB of storage making it an excellent way to find and manage your email information online.

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      My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
    17. Re:I'm lost by Jahf · · Score: 1

      I dunno, haven't tested it yet ... which is EXACTLY WHY I WANT AN ACCOUNT.

      I've gotten tired of Yahoo, even with the 100MB upgrade I still get a ton of SPAM.

      I already have a TiVo monitoring my viewing habits, so I'm not too worried about Google seeing my email since I don't have state secrets in there anyway (and if I ever do I'll find something better than SMTP to transport them).

      The big thing is it is new ... I wanna test it. If it's better I'll switch.

      --
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    18. Re:I'm lost by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      Yes, of course I use archive. I'm referring to new mail coming in. I believe it's possible to auto-archive things when applying the filter, which would be close to what I meant. But my point was really that if I get 100 messages a day, I want it prioritized so my wife's mail is highlighted or something, then my buddy, then the mail from expedia offering the weekly deals. The star is a binary prioritization. But outlook express, for instance, lets me assign different colors based on sender/subject/... and I wish gmail would let me have the same level of visual distinction.

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      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    19. Re:I'm lost by mr_klaw · · Score: 1
      Perhaps all three, but I think after using Gmail for a couple of months, the idea that I can quickly search the full content of everything I've received is nice; the threaded conversations are really cool; and the sharp user interface is pretty nice.

      So what you're saying is that gmail's attractive features are features that have been in email clients for over a decade. I, too, don't understand the allure of gmail. Let me know when it lest me pick my editor.

    20. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah? Well, you know what you can do? Go get fucked in the ass by all your nerd buddies on dorkut!!

    21. Re:I'm lost by AmosOtis · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I just think they've figured out the user interface. Email threads are "conversations" -I don't have 20 messages from my college buddy quoting me simpsons' lines, they're all under one thread (like a newsgroup!). It makes your inbox so much easier to manage. They also do some neat tricks with javascript and server side pushing (I haven't really looked under the hood, I know I should) to make it not seem like web mail - you get mail without having to request it (although you have to keep the browser open). And the whole concept of searching, not sorting, through my email is great. I still have my yahoo address, but I'm seriously considering switching. If this is what we get in beta, imagine what it will be like in 2 years. Then again, it's just email. Still, kudos to the google folks for putting a new spin on an old trick.

    22. Re:I'm lost by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately they've gotten smart and a number of ads don't get blocked anymore, such as ones that use mouse over ocmmadns to launch instead of normal open window commands.

      That being said, try comparing the first page you see when you log in to hotmail compared to the first page after gmail.

    23. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately they've gotten smart and a number of ads don't get blocked anymore, such as ones that use mouse over ocmmadns to launch instead of normal open window commands.

      I've never seen a single popup that I didn't explicitly ask for since I started using Mozilla/Firefox from ages ago.

      "mouseover commands" are not an alternative to "open window commands". "mouse over" is a Javascript event, and can be used to trigger a function you have written, which may or may not include a call to the window.open() function. Any decent popup blocker would surely not include mouseover in the list of events that could trigger a popup.

    24. Re:I'm lost by Hey_Bliss · · Score: 1

      There is something else... that nobody has said... The nickname!!! With places as common worldwide as Google, Slashdot and the rest, the sooner you log in, the more chance you have to end with jack@gmail.com than jack-1972-31-999253-i-am-jack-yes-jack@gmail.com So far a few thousand persons at most will have a gmail account... there must still be LOTS of wanted nicks free!!!

    25. Re:I'm lost by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      Here. Read.

    26. Re:I'm lost by RollingThunder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tagging things with a label but leaving them in an "inbox" makes it hard to find the good stuff.

      Not sure if you wanted to leave them in the inbox, but if you just want mailing lists filed off into only their own labels, then you can also set "skip Inbox", to get mail-folder-like abilities.

    27. Re:I'm lost by rp8774 · · Score: 1

      The point is that all your email is available online from any location.

    28. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did read - did you? Half the comments were pointing out that, while the Google blocker might be defective in letting these new types of adverts through, other popup blockers weren't. Hence my statement "Any decent popup blocker would surely not include mouseover in the list of events that could trigger a popup."

      On a side note, the number of technical inaccuracies and jargon confusion in that article made me cringe - don't tech journalists at least get a techie to proof their articles before sending out such rubbish if they don't understand the topic at hand?

    29. Re:I'm lost by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      "But my point was really that if I get 100 messages a day, I want it prioritized so my wife's mail is highlighted or something, then my buddy, then the mail from expedia offering the weekly deals. The star is a binary prioritization. But outlook express, for instance, lets me assign different colors based on sender/subject/... and I wish gmail would let me have the same level of visual distinction."

      Send it to the gmail people. They are taking feedback, and they want to make gmail better. The functionality you describe seems pretty simple to implement... just let them know.

      I don't have the link offhand, but the gmail help page has it.

    30. Re:I'm lost by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1
      OK, I took your advice and suggested it. Will see if it takes.

      And BTW, I just got 5 more invitations --- seems to be about 5/day this week. But I still have a backlog from my orkut spam...

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      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    31. Re:I'm lost by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      kilo, mega, giga prefixes refer to multiples of 1000, 1000000, 1000000000.

      Just because computers go crazy if something that is aproximately 1k is exactly 1.000k instead of 1.024k doesn't mean that the standard definitions are wrong.

      If the marketers at Maxtor wanted to quote inflated numbers, they could easily list the unformatted capacity which is much higher than the formatted capacity.

    32. Re:I'm lost by spiritraveller · · Score: 1
      Someday, you're going to die. Get over it.

      That is the best sig I have ever seen on Slashdot.

    33. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just said leverage. That makes you stupid. Plus, you're a christian. Christianity is stupid. Therefore, you are twice stupid.

    34. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes the prefixes refers to that, but kilobyte, megabyte and gigabyte has always referred to 2^10, 2^20 and 2^30. The prefixes are used as a convenience, because they're close enough.

      That IS the standard definitions for computer usage.

    35. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interestingly enough threading is always THE FIRST THING I TURN OFF whenever I start using an e-mail client that defaults to having threading on. If I want to see the thread a message belongs to, fine, but I much prefer to see messages sorted chronologically.

    36. Re:I'm lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why it's good Netiquette to put a "---" before your .sig... like this:

      ---
      This is my .sig

    37. Re:I'm lost by Tony-A · · Score: 1

      The prefixes are used as a convenience, because they're close enough.

      That IS the standard definitions for computer usage.


      No wonder IT is FUBAR.

    38. Re:I'm lost by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      I've never seen the collapsing threads in any other mail client. Which one has it?

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  4. I thought about bidding on an account... by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

    But instead bought an old 1 GB harddrive on eBay for 50 cents.

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    Unknown host pong.
    1. Re:I thought about bidding on an account... by Plutor · · Score: 1

      Moderated funny by people who obviously don't have Gmail accounts. Gmail could be 5MB and I'd still love it. It isn't about the space, it's about the classic Google minimalism. The space is just a nice bonus.

  5. Well... by shepd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I have one invite left. First to email me for one gets it.

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    1. Re:Well... by mekkab · · Score: 3, Funny

      ohhhhh me!

      send it to: Mekkab @ gmail DOT com.

      Oh, Wait...

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  6. What they're really thinking: by Dan+Farina · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By the time any normal person can accumulate 1GB worth of e-mail from a service starting today 1GB will be so fantastically cheap (they aren't already?) that it just won't matter.

    1. Re:What they're really thinking: by afidel · · Score: 1

      IDE storage is already at $0.50/GB and falling, not sure what Google is using for Gmail but even if it's several times that it's still easy to pay for with ad revenue. Heck the bandwidth is probably at least as expensive.

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    2. Re:What they're really thinking: by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about this. I've used 4% of my 1GB in a couple of months, but without any "personal" mail (meaning no camera images and such)... just mailing lists for the most part. And this is with occasional move-to-trash operations for things I know I want to get rid of. I suspect I could fill this 1GB in a year if I got all my personal mail here too and never moved to trash (as they expect people [not] to do).... based on an assumption that instead of 2% per month it's more like 8-10% per month.

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  7. Still policy blocked from work... by mekkab · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Got the invite, love the interface, can't view it from work.

    Still hanging on to my shell account.

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    1. Re:Still policy blocked from work... by fuzzhead · · Score: 1

      SSH tunnel to a proxy at home?

    2. Re:Still policy blocked from work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The proxy server update that allows us to read your mail will be installed this weekend.
      -- your sysadmin

    3. Re:Still policy blocked from work... by lophophore · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hmmm. Try https://gmail.google.com

      The filters at my office don't handle https! So it works well that way.

      As always, your mileage may vary.

      --
      there are 3 kinds of people:
      * those who can count
      * those who can't
    4. Re:Still policy blocked from work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They block email but allow slashdot?

  8. Yahoo has retaliated by centralizati0n · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yahoo now offers 100 mb to all free accounts, and 2 gigabytes to premium accounts. I love competition.

    1. Re:Yahoo has retaliated by almostmanda · · Score: 1

      and yet, hotmail is still stuck at 2 mb. with constant emails begging you to upgrade. and damn near everything goes into my spam folder. and it goes down once a week.
      microsoft needs to step it up already. show us some of those monopoly-keeping practices and make users an offer they can't refuse.

    2. Re:Yahoo has retaliated by jbarr · · Score: 1

      2GB vs 1GB of storage space at this time really isn't a big deal. I have over 1000 archived emails imported into Gmail, and it takes up only about 2% of my 1GB space. By the time I even come close to approaching that limit, they'' probably offer more space anyway.

      Besides, Yahoo's "free" account still bombards you with incredibly intrusive, irrelevent, and annoying ads. Gmail's ads are unintrusive, relevent, and innocuous.

      --
      My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
    3. Re:Yahoo has retaliated by RickHunter · · Score: 1

      And only the ignorant or foolish will think that competes with gmail. Being able to search my mail, the gmail labels and filters system, the potential of a spam filter coded by google, and keyboard shortcuts sold me on gmail within an hour of trying it.

      And - even more shockingly - there's occasionally been interesting ads brought up!

  9. As I don't have one yet... by bconway · · Score: 1

    and have been unable to get detailed information about the beta program, how are people that are paying or trading possesions certain that all the accounts won't disappear when the beta is over in order to start the program with a clean slate?

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    1. Re:As I don't have one yet... by mekkab · · Score: 1

      The idea was to have a G-mail account a few weeks ago. THAT was Geek Cool. Also, to grab a good name (Technolust found that someone else had snagged his name by the time he got an invite).

      Even if it's gone tommorrow- its all about being an early adopter.

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      In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
    2. Re:As I don't have one yet... by Wig · · Score: 0

      When you get an invite, the mail says that you can keep your account when it moves from Beta to public.

    3. Re:As I don't have one yet... by smellygeek · · Score: 1

      Sign up for a Blogger.com account. That's where I got my invite.

  10. I got an account a few days ago by sulli · · Score: 5, Funny
    And if it's offered to the likes of me, it can't bt that cool. (I was a very brief user of Adwords.)

    My impression: It's nice webmail. That's it.

    I don't see the huge hype, but then again I did click on that invite link, didn't I?

    --

    sulli
    RTFJ.
  11. I did it before, and I'll do it again by los+furtive · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've you'd like a Gmail account, send me an email at chrislamothe@gmail.com and as I get invites I'll hook you up. I've hooked up 18 people this week alone.

    What I noticed was that as soon as Yahoo announced they were upping their email limit, Gmail started letting me invite about 5 people a day.

    Understand that I already have a backlog of 10 slashdotters waiting for accounts, but I labeled them all and as the invites trickle in, I'll pass them on...my friends and family and irc buddies are already hooked up.

    Cheers!

    --

    I'm a writer, a poet, a genius, I know it. I don't buy software, I grow it.

    1. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      As a side note, I will give precedence to Hotmail users :-)

      --

      I'm a writer, a poet, a genius, I know it. I don't buy software, I grow it.

    2. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

      I've got some invites too. Email me at phrosty@gmail.com with your first/last name and something witty and I'll send you one.

    3. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by gengee · · Score: 1

      er, yeah, jmorton@gmail.com too. I've got three.

      --
      - James
    4. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by WebRat · · Score: 1

      "I did it before, and I'll do it again"
      R U threatening us? :)
      (begging for a clean email system again.)
      I want the old Hotmail (pre-Microsoft) back!!

      --WebRat

    5. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

      50 emails, 10 witty comments, and 2 offers of sex (from guys...) later, I'm all out of invites.

      Sorry folks :)

    6. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by 0WaitState · · Score: 1

      I've you'd like a Gmail account, send me an email at chrislamothe@gmail.com and as I get invites I'll hook you up.

      Congratulations! You have discovered how to convert gmail accounts into karma! Now if only you could demonstrate how to go the other direction...

      --

      Remain calm! All is well!
    7. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      I've you'd like a Gmail account, send me an email at chrislamothe@gmail.com and as I get invites I'll hook you up.

      Dude, you just put your real, unencrypted email address on a Slashdot story, in a mailto: link no less... Dear god, you better hope that Gmail's spam filters work better than Hotmail's or you're in for a world of hurt.

      --
      "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
    8. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by jonearth · · Score: 1

      gee.. I have reloaded this site for a hundred times and I think a lot of /. is doing the same thing and its server going to melt.

      Can someone send an gmail invitation to me? I will trash my hotmail and yahoo a/c in a heartheat. Thank you. jonearth@hotmail.com

    9. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Help me out? gmail(at)clue4all.net . Thanks.

    10. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by neverkevin · · Score: 1

      I just post 10 more invites to my journal, that is 46 for this week.... get them while they are still good

    11. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by bonhomme_de_neige · · Score: 1
      What I noticed was that as soon as Yahoo announced they were upping their email limit, Gmail started letting me invite about 5 people a day.

      Indeed, and I also noticed that when I sent someone on a yahoo account a gmail invite, it was automatically put in their "Bulk Mail" folder ;p

      --
      "Why are you watching the washing machine?"
      "I love entertainment, as long as it's clean"
    12. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      I'm not too worried about it. I have a second gmail account that i'm gonna use more seriously. This one's more to see how good all the features are, and for ease of use issues. So far so good :-)

      --

      I'm a writer, a poet, a genius, I know it. I don't buy software, I grow it.

    13. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 1
      I've got them too... the e-mail is in teh .sig

    14. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by siliconwafer · · Score: 1

      I currently have five invites; anyone who would like an invite, send me an e-mail at axr7993@rit.edu ... first five will get one.

    15. Re:I did it before, and I'll do it again by abbKerry04 · · Score: 1

      Any gmail invites for readers left? If not, my email is at NOSSPAMl_f_hAThotmail.comNOSPAM. Thank you.

  12. The Logical Next Step by CdBee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. would be Google Messenger.
    Use Gmail address as a login ID, use it to capture the business IM and email market

    --
    I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
    1. Re:The Logical Next Step by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      Let's call it "Google Pass" for the login ID.
      You know, a "Pass" to a "Port"al.
      Noone should have a problem with that.
      You can use it for all kinds of services with no concerns about aggregate data tracking because we trust them.
      </paranoia>

    2. Re:The Logical Next Step by 0racle · · Score: 1

      No you could use it to log into a number of partnered websites and services, it would be like a passport to the web.

      --
      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
    3. Re:The Logical Next Step by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Many think that the fact that it reads your email in order to provide targeted ads is disturbing.

      Imagine Google IM, it would read your conversations as you were having them in order to send you targeted ads. Now that is creepy.

    4. Re:The Logical Next Step by CdBee · · Score: 1

      Or just be a subscription service. Lets face it, if you were going to pay for business IM.. who else but google?

      --
      I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
    5. Re:The Logical Next Step by edrugtrader · · Score: 0

      you don't get it.

      gmail is a good step for google because the communication is stored server side so they can apply their search technology to it.

      a google IM application could not stand out unless it offered googles search features on all of your IM conversations. google is not going to release a tool that searches your local drive which means the data (the text of all of your IM conversations) would have to be stored server side.

      i for one would not want my IM conversations stored on googles servers. of course some people might like the services... but for IM, unless all of your friends switch, you'll just need another IM application or trillion will have to code another network in with all of googles new features (that probably wouldn't work through trillion).

      anyways, i doubt GMessenger is anywhere near.

      --
      MARIJUANA, SHROOMS, X: ONLINE?! - E
    6. Re:The Logical Next Step by Psymunn · · Score: 1

      They already have it
      Have two people with gmail accounts hitting refresh constantly
      works just like a messenger... erm...
      After seeing conversations i think a google messenger could completly blur the liens between e-mail and a messenger (all conversations are e-mail conversations stored on your g-mail account)

      --
      The Neo-Bohemian Techno-Socialist
    7. Re:The Logical Next Step by phidipides · · Score: 1

      I've got four invites remaining as of 5:01 PST that I'm happy to give out -- ryan.holliday@gmail.com.

      And the obligatory shameless plug: www.mountaininterval.org. Site is up when SBC actually provides DSL service. Anyone know another cheap, reliable provider in the Bay Area? Comcast?

    8. Re:The Logical Next Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gmail-is-too-creepy.com
      ;)

    9. Re:The Logical Next Step by caluml · · Score: 1

      user@joogle.com ( jabber google )?

      bash-2.05b$ whois joogle.com

      Found a referral to whois.moniker.com. ....

      Bah.

    10. Re:The Logical Next Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow, I dont think that that will work.

      When I am IMing, or texting, I typ s lil as psbl, bt nuf dat d odr ppl cn rd it. Ggle wd nEd > a few phds 2 ad ads 2 it.

    11. Re:The Logical Next Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many think that the fact that it reads your email in order to provide targeted ads is disturbing.

      As a point of reference, "many" think that the moon landings and the Holocaust are hoaxes, or that extraterrestrials are in the business of abducting cattle and rednecks for experiments. In other words, don't put too much faith in what "many" think.

      What is so disturbing about using keywords in your email to target ads when they do the same thing when you type keywords into their search engine? It's not like humans are reading your email.

      Imagine Google IM, it would read your conversations as you were having them in order to send you targeted ads. Now that is creepy.

      In what way? It's just another source of keywords.

      Imagine if somebody started saying "hey, you know Google look at the words you are searching for and give you ads based on those keywords - HOW CREEPY!!!1". Would you start to get worried, or would you consider them a fool?

    12. Re:The Logical Next Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, the guys who get a "enlarge your penis" in gmail, really deserve it?

    13. Re:The Logical Next Step by sirshannon · · Score: 1

      "google is not going to release a tool that searches your local drive "

      Google IS going to release a tool that searches your local drive.

    14. Re:The Logical Next Step by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Spelling, Grammar a Challenge? A simple web game can help. Become a grammar and spelling champ! Try it free! RemedialEnglish.com

      --
      I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
    15. Re:The Logical Next Step by RickHunter · · Score: 1

      Actually, I disagree. The next logical step is a free mailing lists service, to compete with Yahoo Groups. Which everyone hates, but everyone uses because they're the only game in town. If they could provide something as compelling as gmail for mailing list management, even if you had to pay a couple dollars to set up a group, it would be huge.

    16. Re:The Logical Next Step by geoffeg · · Score: 1

      What would be really creepy is if software and computers had to read chunks of data off a network and store it in memory somewhere for you to use. I don't want my computer STORING data for me or READING stuff off my network connection! That's MY data, NOT my computer's!

    17. Re:The Logical Next Step by kinema · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sounds great as long as they run Jabber.

    18. Re:The Logical Next Step by NaDrew · · Score: 1
      Anyone know another cheap, reliable provider in the Bay Area?
      Speakeasy
      --
      Vista:XPSP2::ME:98SE
    19. Re:The Logical Next Step by dotc · · Score: 1

      For Example, Google Groups

    20. Re:The Logical Next Step by RickHunter · · Score: 1

      ... Holy shit.

      How did I miss that? O_O

  13. Oh, bloody hell by lorcha · · Score: 1, Funny
    After reading that it seems like they're gonna take away my geek credentials if I don't have a gmail account. Could someone please send an invitation to lorcha@hotmail.com?

    Thanks,
    A geek who needs to feel some validation.

    --
    "Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
    1. Re:Oh, bloody hell by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: 1

      /me notes the hotmail address

      I think you lost your geek credentials a few years back.

    2. Re:Oh, bloody hell by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      Yeah, at least setup a spamgourmet alias account to try and earn some street cred again.

  14. Use spymac.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spymac.com has free hosting, 1GB of email, none of the privacy concerns of gmail, and a very easy to use site.

    And it existed before gmail

    1. Re:Use spymac.com by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 1

      Ugh. please. go USE a service before promoting it.

      Spymac may have 1GB of mail, but the site is FAR from easy to use. It's the definition of bloat, and in the 2 months I tried to use it has been down too often when I've really needed webmail, that I just stopped using it.

      Spymac has some good features on paper, pity the implementation isn't there.

    2. Re:Use spymac.com by Nasarius · · Score: 1

      It's also really slow and doesn't seem to work with Firefox. And it's a stupid name. No thanks.

      --
      LOAD "SIG",8,1
    3. Re:Use spymac.com by Zephiris · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget...gmail currently doesn't require personally identifiable information, such as address, zip code, name of first born, social security number, size of anatomy elements. Spymac requires all info, including demographic information, and if I remember correctly phone number. At least if gmail doesn't ask in the future, that means my ISP still remains the 'bottleneck' for any real identity linking. I could still just use transparent anonymous proxies who don't care who I am to access gmail...which makes that even nicer. All someone in the government would have to do is send one email to spymac.com, and if they cave...it means exactly one thing: The government gets everything in about 75 miliseconds. ;p Of course, this is just a Big Encouragement for encrypted emails that the email service can't really touch, like GnuPG and PGP. It's not a matter of gmail linking 'certain information' with 'other certain information' if it becomes harder than it's worth to track you down for exercising your right to free speech.

      --

      "A Goddess rarely smiles for she is forced by others to be an island unto herself." - Zephiris
    4. Re:Use spymac.com by FireBreathingDog · · Score: 1
      It's also really slow and doesn't seem to work with Firefox. And it's a stupid name.

      Which name? Spymac or Firefox?

  15. The GMail Market by Rie+Beam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing I noticed about GMail was that it was, at least for a short time, a small commercial market within itself. The market ebbed and flowed depending on if invites had become availble that day or not. Originally, there were few accounts, and I managed to snatch one up thanks to my Blogger account - while it lasted, my invites were gold. Before the market "crashed" a few weeks ago, I managed to get unlimited virtual hosting and some nude pictures from a college CS girl who wanted one for "geek cool". My, it was great.

    Of course, then the market crashed. So now GMail Swap and others are worthless. But I've been using my invites for another purpose now - I currently have 30 GMail addresses to my name, including some interesting ones. I figure, although the rarity may not exist in having an account, the rarity could exist in having the account you want. Commercialism rises again.

    1. Re:The GMail Market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      while it lasted, my invites were gold. Before the market "crashed" a few weeks ago, I managed to get unlimited virtual hosting and some nude pictures from a college CS girl who wanted one for "geek cool". My, it was great.


      Some people are just too desperate to live.
      But if that CS college gal is that desperate there should be a happy little community around her :)

    2. Re:The GMail Market by ajayrockrock · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...I managed to get unlimited virtual hosting...

      Are you sure about that? Your site has a big ass "This Account Has Been Suspended" page on it. :)

      --ajay

    3. Re:The GMail Market by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      Can you email me the nude pics?

    4. Re:The GMail Market by hanssprudel · · Score: 1

      If she sent actual pictures of herself, she is too stupid to live. This is the Internet, it is overflowing with pictures of a naked girls.

      He probably sent a gmail account to some fat, bald dude in exchange for something that showed up on yesterdays autopr0n feed.

    5. Re:The GMail Market by burns210 · · Score: 1

      yes, because when someone offers ME free web hosting with intuitive interface and a gig of storage, the first the I do is find how best to exploit that service for a profit... Well done, you just took 29 email addresses from the community, made google be liable for 29 more gigs of potential data, and just made the world look that much more greedy, because you couldn't accept a good thing and be thankful, you had to have more.

      Shame.

  16. Getting Invited by xp · · Score: 5, Funny

    How does one get invited. I crave the invitation. I am almost tempted to start my own Google just so I could then invite myself to gmail.

    ----
    Is Your Boss A Muppet?

    1. Re:Getting Invited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I got invited by hanging out with (not just stalking) hot girls who use blogger. No, I'm serious. Now if I could just get one of them to sleep with me for once I'd be the coolest guy on slashdot.

    2. Re:Getting Invited by cmacb · · Score: 3, Informative

      "How does one get invited. I crave the invitation. I am almost tempted to start my own Google just so I could then invite myself to gmail.
      "


      If you have been using Blogger for a while then you probably already have an invitation. Sign on to blogger (as if to update your blog) and look carefully over on the right.

    3. Re:Getting Invited by DivideX0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gmail machine just worked for me. I refreshed for about 20 minutes, finally won an invite. There was a problem with the invite process but it got taken care of right away, and now I've got logged into gmail, no problem.

      --
      My next Slashdot post will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
    4. Re:Getting Invited by xp · · Score: 1

      If you have been using Blogger for a while then you probably already have an invitation. Sign on to blogger (as if to update your blog) and look carefully over on the right.

      I just went and looked, and nothing. I've been blogging since May 2003. I must confess though that I have one of the most primitive looking blogs out there.

      ----
      The Muppet Overlords

    5. Re:Getting Invited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-85794dc1de-8f8d0fd 4ab

      Here ya go boys! One invite for the first person to hit the link!

    6. Re:Getting Invited by Nameles · · Score: 1

      I just bought one off of ebay, after I remembered my friend just got an account. I'll sell it to you for what I paid for it.. Reply if interested

    7. Re:Getting Invited by gibbo2 · · Score: 1

      I'm interested... what did you pay for it?

    8. Re:Getting Invited by Nameles · · Score: 1

      I actually won two auctions. One for an invite (which presumably spawns other invites), and an actual account (dirtyboy@gmail.com). I'm willing to get rid of the dirtyboy one now for the price I paid ($8usd), and will probably use the invites from my invite in someway.

  17. Neighbor of teh winnar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just pulled 1335 on the gmail lotto. how annoying is that?

    as if i didn't have enough time-sucking webpages to visit every day, here's one more...

    1. Re:Neighbor of teh winnar? by blixel · · Score: 1

      I've been going at the gmail machine for over 8 hours ... now that slashdot has picked it up, it's probably a waste of time to continue. I was able to refresh every 3 or 4 seconds ... now I'm getting 10, 12, 20 second delays.

    2. Re:Neighbor of teh winnar? by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      Laugh... one of the guys on #gmail on Efnet had a small VB app that guessed for you, just leave it on overnight. :)

      The author of the page found a way to block it though ;p

    3. Re:Neighbor of teh winnar? by justMichael · · Score: 1

      heh, that thing lived on one of my boxes the first round on Wednesday...

      It peaked at 980 pages/s and 28 Mb/s. Apparently getting a mention on the Screen Savers is a little like getting on /. It made some pretty graphs.

      I would have hosted it again, but bandwidth doesn't grow on trees.

    4. Re:Neighbor of teh winnar? by renelicious · · Score: 1

      I got 13837. Its on down the road a bit, but still annoying as well.

      --
      "Luke, I am your node.parent();"
    5. Re:Neighbor of teh winnar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I made a simple Python script to do the same thing. It already got me two gmail accounts.

  18. Wow! by shepd · · Score: 1

    1 down!

    Seems I still have 5 more left! Keep those mails coming! :-)

    --
    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
    1. Re:Wow! by cipher+uk · · Score: 1

      and that 1 was me... thanks shepd

    2. Re:Wow! by Norgus · · Score: 1

      if you would please, my e-mail address is currently *cringe* norgus8@hotmail.com I assume your not actually offering this anyway because of the weird e-mail address you have on show. But if you are offering, please invite me ^_^

    3. Re:Wow! by dhuff · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll bite: david.huff@verizon.net

    4. Re:Wow! by shepd · · Score: 1

      It's a real email address (send me stuff!) but... I'm fresh out. I'll stick yours on the pile for next time. HTH.

      --
      If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
    5. Re:Wow! by stars_are_number_1 · · Score: 1

      You mean to tell me you've only gotten 1 email from slashdotters since you posted your notice?

    6. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      added to pending list.

    7. Re:Wow! by rich_r · · Score: 1

      richr@multjoy.co.uk
      ta!

    8. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      added to pending list. :-)

    9. Re:Wow! by rich_r · · Score: 1

      wicked!
      Would be even better if I hadn't mispelt my email- should be richr@multijoy.co.uk
      My typing skills go to pot whenever it counts most :-)

    10. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Would be even better if I hadn't mispelt my email- should be richr@multijoy.co.uk

      Noted.

  19. I've got one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funniest response to this post gets a free invite.

    1. Re:I've got one by kaptainsunshine · · Score: 1

      How bout' only response?

    2. Re:I've got one by Daath · · Score: 1

      Uhm, which post?

      --
      Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
    3. Re:I've got one by WebRat · · Score: 1

      Can I have it?
      Please? :)

    4. Re:I've got one by bhtooefr · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Microsoft Works.

  20. Search plugin for squirrelmail.. by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

    I already have 'unlimited' storage (currently 50G free, but I could easily drop another drive in the server if I felt it was getting short) for my email, with pop3, imap and squirrelmail access to it from anywhere.

    I'm not sure how good squirrelmail is at searching through the old mail; perhaps I should look into that. If it's that important I can always ssh in and grep through the mail directories anyway :)

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    455fe10422ca29c4933f95052b792ab2
    1. Re:Search plugin for squirrelmail.. by DA-MAN · · Score: 1

      Squirelmail does an ok job of searching IMAP accounts, but I cant get it to search my POP accounts ;-(

      Have you tried asking it nicely? Honey gets more flies than vinegar . . .

      --
      Can I get an eye poke?
      Dog House Forum
  21. The real success of Gmail by furball · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The success of Gmail is not the amount of space. That's called a gimmick. The success of Gmail is its searchability.

    In the long run, having a gig of mail is pointless if you can't find what you're looking for. Assume you can have all the space in the world and you didn't delete a single email. How will you find the email sent sometime ago that you can't remember from a girl you can't remember who conversed with you on craigslist but you did remember her fantasy about being your naughty bukkake star?

    You can't! Not without search.

    1. Re:The real success of Gmail by Rich+Klein · · Score: 1

      Yeah, right. Like a girl from craigslist would converse with me.

      Honestly, though, I run my own mailserver. I've got 120GB available to my mailbox. I have no problem searching for any string simply using the search capability built into Thunderbird. I haven't heard of any gmail feature that sounds particularly compelling to me.

      --
      -Rich
    2. Re:The real success of Gmail by furball · · Score: 1

      Thunderbird can only do simple string searches. The more complicated ones involving word stemming is still out of its reach.

  22. creepy by FLoWCTRL · · Score: 0, Redundant



    http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

    1. Re:creepy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst thing about this website is it puts blame on Google since it encourages archival, and just says that if a subpoena is served, you're screwed.

      Unfortunately, what this website doesn't realize is under the PATRIOT Act, the government can search your HOUSE without your knowledge, as well as other records. The problem doesn't lie with Google, it lies with the neo-conservative policies in the federal government.

    2. Re:creepy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the tinfoil hat award for 2004 goes to....

      the paranoid fuck who came up with that site

    3. Re:creepy by mabinogi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every single email you send anywhere on the internet is read in it's entirety by at least one machine not in your control. That machine can trivilaly copy and archive the contents of your message and leave NO TRACE.

      If you're paranoid about GMail, but you're happy to send unencrypted email to other addresses, then you're an idiot, that's all there is to say.

      --
      Advanced users are users too!
    4. Re:creepy by FLoWCTRL · · Score: 1

      Not everyone lives in the USA. But Google does, which exposes the information it carries to whatever may result from the backwards laws that you mention.

  23. GTray Mirror by loteck · · Score: 1

    Can someone manage a mirror for the GTray file? Sounds handy.

    1. Re:GTray Mirror by IIskooterII · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:GTray Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! Now to get an app that will check MULTIPLE GMail accounts.

  24. blazing fast outlook search by 0WaitState · · Score: 1

    (somewhat OT, but you can't or shouldn't move your work email to gmail, so...)

    For those of you who want powerful search of your 10000s of messages locked up in a work exchange server, try Lookout soft . I've used it with about 12000 messages on the exchange server and local outlook folders, and never had a search take more than 0.2 seconds. Still free while in beta mode.

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    Remain calm! All is well!
  25. robmalda@gmail.com for sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Zeikfried Tuvai of the GNAA, and I am currently in possession of RobMalda@gmail.com.

    I am willing to sell this in return for sexual favours and/or pounds stirling, please e-mail your offers to the above address.

  26. Donate those invites! by jcull · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wil Wheaton [clevernickname] is working on a project to donate Gmail invites to soldiers serving overseas who all have Hotmail which sucks. Go to his weblog entry for the skinny.

    1. Re:Donate those invites! by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      No, contact Google and have them donate them. They will get more and Google will get a lot of good PR out of it.

    2. Re:Donate those invites! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having soldiers overseas sucks even more. Bring back all the soldiers and let the world have some peace.

  27. Could someone tell me... by FFFish · · Score: 1

    ...what the big deal is? What on earth is Google going to offer me above what my plain ol' POP3/IMAP + Opera/Pegasus/whatever client already offers? What's it going to offer that my freebie Operamail account doesn't offer?

    Maybe I'm not one of the cool kids. Seems to me that all my computing is done on my laptop, and having *all* my important mail (ie. the university account, my permanent email address) POP3'd to my laptop is just *perfect*. I can search it six ways to Sunday, it's always here, it's on a secure system, etc.

    So... why gmail?

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    1. Re:Could someone tell me... by Gleapsite · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gmail isn't a POP3 killer. Its a Hotmail/Yahoo killer.

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    2. Re:Could someone tell me... by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, no one can be told why GMail is better. You'll have to see it for yourself. :-)

      Seriously, mroe than the gig of inbox space they offer, I think it's the UI that beats the shit out of even Opera IMAP (and trust me, I'm a heavy M2 user on my other email account); imagine M2-like view abilities with the ability to google through your email. Disappointing though, that GMail is still not Opera-compatible; this, currently, is the only reason I'm still on IE.

  28. You lost them a long time ago by Ghoser777 · · Score: 1

    By keeping a hotmail account past 2000, you are officially a third class geek. You are slightly more geeky than someone using an aol email account, but not by much.

    Matt Fahrenbacher

    --
    James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
    1. Re:You lost them a long time ago by daveo0331 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but... a true geek would know better than to post their real email address to Slashdot. He probably made the account 5 minutes before posting his comment. A true geek knows that the only thing Hotmail is good for is generating throwaway email addresses. And no, Mailinator won't work for this because then someone could steal the invite.

      Then again, maybe he's a third class geek that uses Hotmail and makes the spam even worse by posting his email on Slashdot.

      --
      Remember the days when Republicans were the party of fiscal responsibility?
    2. Re:You lost them a long time ago by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Hey, I didn't know about the other services until about 2001, and I had my bhtooefr@hotmail.com in 1997. That was when Hotmail was kick-ass. 2001, I told everyone I'm changing the domain to atmail.nl (hey, it was a pretty decent service), then yahoo.com (yes, Yahoo... THAT sucked pretty quickly), and finally softhome@net (obfuscated just in case the spambots get smart, although spam (and the SoftHome spam filter nuking legit messages) is a problem already). I'm considering moving to freeshell.org (I need to upgrade to ARPA ($36 one-time) to get SMTP access, though, but the FTP access won't be a bad thing either), which has 100MB storage. Of course, if I can get a GMail account, I may just use that...

    3. Re:You lost them a long time ago by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      May I suggest usermail.com? I've used them for years and found their service & spam filtering quite good. $20 a year gets you webmail, POP, IMAP, SMTPauth on port 2525, & 50 MB (though with competition heating up that storage may increase).

    4. Re:You lost them a long time ago by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      $20/yr? I think I like $36/account better. Also, what's their spam filtering like? Bayesian? Where do spams go? OK, so they have SMTPauth. Even SoftHome has that (2500 or 25000 (both options are given, because certain e-mail clients can only handle a four digit port number). 50MB? I can get 100 with the $36, and that comes with 100MB webspace and 100MB /home/username (OK, so it's really /udd/(first letter of username)/username, but you get the point, don't you?)

    5. Re:You lost them a long time ago by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      BTW, no, Freeshell doesn't have filtering, but I usually use a client to download it, and (AFAIK) M2 7.5x has a "statistical e-mail filter" (they refuse to call it Bayesian - apparently it doesn't use the Bayes algorithms), and 7.23 has an undocumented filter like that.

  29. Get G-mail by Professor+Cool+Linux · · Score: 1

    E-mail me at teetek225 at yahoo dot com
    while invites last....

    1. Re:Get G-mail by Professor+Cool+Linux · · Score: 1

      Im fresh out...
      don't cry though i will have more in a few days...

      my box is getting /.'ed good thing yahoo gave me 100MB ;)

    2. Re:Get G-mail by gangien · · Score: 1

      FYI:
      from the parent

      im fresh out

      ps no reply im getting /.'ed & please pass on the
      message i have a huge queue of people...

  30. Google and third parties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The question that remains, however, is whether Google will work with or against third party developers in GMail's future.

    Considering that Google's developed APIs to access their bread-and-butter search engine programatically, they will probably offer something similar for Gmail. In my mind, the free email services don't make much money from users accessing their stuff from home (where they usually have ad-blockers installed), but when they access it from a public computer where they will definitely see the ads.

    -hadohk

  31. Problem Solved by Ieshan · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...You can "star" incoming messages based on criteria. Edit a filter. "Star It" is one of the filter options.

    Problem solved?

    1. Re:Problem Solved by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      Guess so. I suppose that's functionality that appeared after I learned everything there was to know about gmail filters :)

      --
      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
  32. Advantage: Fast by jvagner · · Score: 2, Informative

    The interface is really fast. A lot of functions don't require real page re-loads.

    I do need to check POP mail (IMAP would be grand), but I realize they're probably holding off on that until the real release.

    I'm glad someone values keyboard commands again.

    1. Re:Advantage: Fast by JustinXB · · Score: 1

      Actually a lot of the pages DO require page reloads, you just don't notice it since it's been designed and put together very well.

    2. Re:Advantage: Fast by puck01 · · Score: 1

      I need pop too. I'm sure its only a matter of time before google either offers it or good programs evolve to pull mail off gmail like pop, such as the one below:

      http://jaybe.org/info.htm

      I've tried it. It works. Not as great as one I used for yahoo in the past, but well enough for now. My big problem with it right now, is it will only download the emails i've not read yet. The 'old' messages I read thru the web interface won't download, which won't work if I want to archive all my messages on my own computer too.

  33. opera by Kallahar · · Score: 0

    I got an account, but it's pretty much useless to me. For some strange reason the site doesn't work at all with Opera. They had some weird javascript with their buttons that made it not work. A big departure from the normal Google design methodology.

  34. IMAP by augustz · · Score: 1

    Would happily pay $20/year or so for IMAP access to my account.

    1. Re:IMAP by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      You need usermail.com. See my post above.

  35. My GMail Experiences by FosterSJC · · Score: 1

    Just got my GMail account yesterday. Had already sent off an email to my contacts telling them my exclusive new email address. Then I found out GMail doesn't support the Opera browser (or vice versa) yet. Bummer, I love Opera like I love my family. So I download this Pop Goes The GMail program, and it is sorely disappointing. I haven't checked it with other clients, but it doesn't seem to function well at all with Opera's mail client. Hotmail Popper was fantastic in it's compatability and reliability. So I will wait patiently for Opera to play nicely with GMail. In the mean time, I've got to use IE. I am however thinking of having my work email forwarded to my GMail account for it's search abilities alone.

    BTW, if anyone has any potential solutions to my problems, let me know! If you can help me, who knows, maybe you might get a Gmail account ;-)

    1. Re:My GMail Experiences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best solution: use Yahoo or some other email service that can be accessed without Javascript.

  36. Invitations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do the giving out of invitations work from Google to account holders? I recently got an account and hear about others who get more every few days. I have yet to get any and it has been about 4 days now.

  37. It's a neat idea but... by Axem · · Score: 2, Informative

    I see Gmail as a novelty item right now. More of a way for people to brag about their gig of email. My pop3 account holds 15 meg, which is enough since I only give it out to personal friends (and the Dilbert Newsletter ;-)). I use hotmail for registering for services and all the spam goes there. I am muchly content with my non-Gmail services.

    --
    We all live in a #FFFF00 submarine...
  38. Reply-to Feature Tops My List by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What I like most about Gmail is its ability to have a 'reply-to' option in the setup screen. I was using a cranky old IMAP account on my web hosting provider which was proving to be a nuisance (and I had far from a gig of storage!).

    Since I am a Treo user, I still valued having the ability to check my account from my phone. But I also really liked the Gmail interface when I was at my desktop. So here's what I did:

    I was pleased to see that Google allows you to override the reply-to address, so I immediately changed that to my current email address.

    I then deleted my IMAP account and set up a mail forwarding alias that directs any incoming messages to my Gmail account as well as a pop account on the hosting provider's server.

    I use the POP account to check mail from my Treo, and it also gets picked up by my Outlook client for permanent archiving.

    The best part is I was able to switch my email exclusively to Gmail without anyone noticing the switch. This is top notch stuff.. Google has done something extraordinary here.

    1. Re:Reply-to Feature Tops My List by namemattersnot · · Score: 1

      and how is this extraordinary? there are counts of web-based e-mail service providers that not only let you change the reply-to address but your original e-mail address as well. google doesn't let you do that--all e-mails originate from gmail.com address-- hence only the blind cannot notice the switch.

    2. Re:Reply-to Feature Tops My List by illumin8 · · Score: 1
      I was using a cranky old IMAP account on my web hosting provider which was proving to be a nuisance (and I had far from a gig of storage!).

      For those of you that are wondering how to get mail from your IMAP or POP3 accounts into Gmail, I found a great way to do it with Fetchmail. These are the options I used:

      fetchmail --all --keep \
      --smtphost gsmtp57.google.com,gsmtp171.google.com \
      --smtpname yourmailbox@gmail.com \
      --protocol IMAP or POP3 \
      --user yourmailserverusername \
      yourmailserverhostname

      Give this a try, it will prompt you for your IMAP password, then start copying away. BTW, the --keep flag tells it to keep all of your messages on your IMAP server, so it's not going to erase anything.

      Some tips:

      You may want to setup some Labels and Filters ahead of time on your GMail account so that you don't end up with 5000 messages in your inbox. For example messages that came from a domain name of my old employer get labelled with company name and archived automatically.

      Messages will have all appropriate headers intact, however the timestamp that the messages are received will reflect the current time, rather than the original timestamp. There is no way around this because Google's SMTP servers automatically timestamp every incoming message.

      There is no need to worry about MAIL FROM: headers being mangled like they would be if you forwarded them from a regular mail client. All MAIL FROM: headers will remain intact. Fetchmail only overwrites the RCPT TO: portion of the headers.

      Let me know if you have any problems... Mine is currently chunking away on 850 out of 2867 messages... Gmail rocks!

      --
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  39. When? by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting
    When it will be out of beta? when it will allow non-invite subscriptions? When they will consider "its ready"?

    They are making their webmail a playfield like is the domain name ownership one, and if it last months a to have really big webmail mailboxes, ligth webpages, intelligent spam/virus filtering and threaded mail view will be so common than when it will be finally out could be no news.

    I even wonder if in the open source webmail market not exist already one that provides a good part of what gmail will give who knows when.

    At this moment i would open the registration in gmail, not by invitation, but at will, still leave there the "beta" mark to show that still could be rough edges, but to accaparate the market before is too late. What if i.e. the actual Teoma come out around the same time google started? still google would be the #1?

    Well, anyway, i could be wrong, not tested yet so i can't say how hard or easy could be duplicated with advantages, but so far for non-users is almost vapourware.

    1. Re:When? by illumin8 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      When it will be out of beta? when it will allow non-invite subscriptions? When they will consider "its ready"?

      When you will speaking in proper english be?

      --
      "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
  40. Sorry! by shepd · · Score: 1

    All fresh out now! Anyone who mailed me and didn't get one, I'll keep you on file and as soon as the invite counter resets, I'll hook you up.

    Thanks all that asked! Hope you enjoy your accounts!

    --
    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
  41. Yahoo scans your mail as well. by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do you think the spam filters work? Magic ESP SPAM detection?

    No, it scans your mail - just like GMail does when it's filtering SPAM of considering ads to feed up.

    The only email providers that do not scan mail are the ones that allow anything to pass.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  42. Exporting from GMail with Python by holovaty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been experimenting with a Python interface to Gmail. Just released version 0.1 today. Hope it's helpful to someone.

  43. I have an invite. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    I have one invite. First one to respond to this post gets it. I can queue up the others for when I get more, if they are willing to wait.

    --
    I hate sigs.
    1. Re:I have an invite. by dhuff · · Score: 1

      Uh, OK. david.huff@verizon.net

    2. Re:I have an invite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just sent you an email.. here's hoping.

    3. Re:I have an invite. by amaiman · · Score: 1

      I'll take it, if you still have it.

    4. Re:I have an invite. by david614 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I'd like it if you can get it to me. Please send invite to wintermute1@mac.com Thanks David Mussington david614

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    5. Re:I have an invite. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      Given away. The queue is full. Here is who are in my queue for invites: dhuff
      amaiman
      david614
      ashtamurthy
      SA H

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      I hate sigs.
    6. Re:I have an invite. by david614 · · Score: 1

      thanks for your donation : ) D

      --
      ELITISM: It's always lonely at the top. Uninvited company is rarely welcome.
    7. Re:I have an invite. by zoloto · · Score: 1

      how do you get invites and how do they show up in your account to mail them to others?

      i'd like to hook my family up and roommates too.

    8. Re:I have an invite. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      You just get them. A link shows up on your mainpage that says "INVITE A FRIEND TO JOIN!", or something similar.

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      I hate sigs.
    9. Re:I have an invite. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      You are next. E-mail address?

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    10. Re:I have an invite. by amaiman · · Score: 1

      a m a i m a n AT y a h o o

      Thanks a lot.

    11. Re:I have an invite. by amaiman · · Score: 1

      Thanks, got the invite (found it buried in my Yahoo mail spam folder this morning).

      I had already received another invite by the time I got yours, though, so I passed it on to a friend.

    12. Re:I have an invite. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      As long as someone uses it, I honestly don't mind. I read about Yahoo and Hotmail sticking the invites in Spam folders. LAME.

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    13. Re:I have an invite. by amaiman · · Score: 1

      Yeah...While it may not have been malicious on their part (since could be considered bulk mail since so many of them are coming into their system), after the first hundred people or so clicked on the 'This is not Spam' button, it should have stopped filtering them. But I guess they certainly don't want the new competition, since it beats their service hands-down.

      My friend thanks you for the invite :-)

  44. Any one have a script? by stecoop · · Score: 1

    Gmail Machine makes you hit refresh until the number 1337 commes up. Anyone have a refresh perl script to do this until it captures the string? Looks like nothing complicated; I may try and do it unless someone else has one already built.

  45. gmail inivte request by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Would someone mind sending me an invite? Remove the dashes from my current email: m-p-a-r-r-i-s-h@e-m-a-i-l.com

    Thanks!

    -WiseDragon (Slashdot user 71071)

    1. Re:gmail inivte request by hkb · · Score: 1

      Alright, sent.

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      /* Moderating all non-anonymous trolls up since 2004 */
    2. Re:gmail inivte request by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Thanks!

  46. And the point of the story is... by badfrog · · Score: 1

    Why are these nude pictures not shared?

    1. Re:And the point of the story is... by TheAntiCrust · · Score: 1

      That was my immediate thought. Put em up!

    2. Re:And the point of the story is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe that vhosting he received in exchange for a GMail invitation wasn't quite so unlimited.

      The market really has crashed!

    3. Re:And the point of the story is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur, nude pictures plz.

      Unless they're Kathleen Fent or Ellen Feiss (REMEMBER HER?!?!?!?)

  47. Oh, the humanity. by LazloToth · · Score: 1


    My god, this is pathetic. This non-event is like, say, the announcement that Britney Spears is coming to town, with the Spice Girls opening. Do you REALLY want your friends to know you were there? Or are your friends, in fact, WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO? Man, I've aged out . . . .

    --


    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
  48. Gmail doesn't support firefox by freelunch · · Score: 1, Troll

    After this article, I figured I'd better use my invite and register.. Only to get the following..

    We're sorry, but we don't seem to be compatible.

    Our software suggests that you're using a browser incompatible with Gmail. Gmail currently supports the following:

    * Microsoft IE 5.5 and newer (download: Windows)
    * Netscape 7.1 and newer (download: Windows Macintosh Linux )
    * Mozilla 1.4 and newer (download: Windows Macintosh Linux )
    * Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and newer (download: Windows Macintosh Linux )
    * Safari 1.2.1 and newer (download: Macintosh )

    While we're still testing Gmail, you can also click here to use your unsupported browser, though you likely will encounter some areas that don't work as expected. You need to have Javascript and cookies enabled, regardless of the browser you use.


    But hey, no worries. It seems to work. And it is fast as hell and looks pretty cool. Not that I'd ever use someone else's domain for serious email.

    Yikes - big problem.. You can't middle-mouse click on a message to open it in a new window. That blows.

    1. Re:Gmail doesn't support firefox by steve+buttgereit · · Score: 1

      * Mozilla Firefox 0.8 and newer (download: Windows Macintosh Linux )

      Sure about that?

    2. Re:Gmail doesn't support firefox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just checked my gmail with firefox - works like a charm. Maybe it is time for you to upgrade?

    3. Re:Gmail doesn't support firefox by freelunch · · Score: 1

      I just checked my gmail with firefox - works like a charm. Maybe it is time for you to upgrade?

      You know, I was so shocked by the page that I didn't even see it on their list.

      But I am running firefox 0.8.

    4. Re:Gmail doesn't support firefox by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Informative
      • Firefox is named in the text you pasted
      • Firefox uses the gecko rendering engine, they are naming browsers, but what they should support are rendering engines. Safari is pretty like Konqueror, so Konqueror should work. Same with Mozilla and Firefox, and the rest of gecko powered browsers, and Internet Explorer and all the windows alternate browsers that uses IE rendering engine.
      • If you want to complain about browsers not supported, well, Opera is not supported yet, nor links :( is a shame because those two are very ligthweight, multiplataform and good browsers.
  49. I think they will by daishin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The question that remains, however, is whether Google will work with or against third party developers in GMail's future.
    Provided that the things such as the POP3 forwarder do not circumvent the ads which are highly non-intrusive, and which Google relys on a good deal.

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  50. invites by grahagre · · Score: 1, Interesting

    if any of you want a gmail invite hit me up, i only have two

    1. Re:invites by davisshaver · · Score: 1

      Hey, could I have one? Fifteen year old student living in PA.

      --
      "What we have here is a failure to communicate"
      The Warden, Cool Hand Luke
    2. Re:invites by m1a1 · · Score: 1

      how do i go about hitting you up?

    3. Re:invites by frogsarefriendly · · Score: 0

      -- frogsarefriendly@yahoo.com

    4. Re:invites by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1
      Would appreciate an invite. Many thanks ...

      timbolshaw+gmail At fastmail.fm

  51. invite plz?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can I have an invite??

    Email: ninjakNOSPAM@gmxNOSPAM.de

    Remove both instances of NOSPAM to get my true email.

  52. 'Cause no one else is scanning your e-mail by Psymunn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, I love it when people start whining about a computer searching their e-mail. So i guess yahoo dosen't have a spam filter then? What, hotmail has to parse the text of every e-mail before it determines that that message about penis extensions is spam. How do you think e-mail programs work out that not every mail saying 'Hey, haven't talked to you in a while' is spam
    G-mail's problem is not that it scans your e-mail, but rather that the good people are honest and upfront with what they are doing.
    I'm sure people would all be thrilled about a virus check if it was billed as 'automatic file parser.' Sure, it might seem weird having a conversation about your favorite jewish actor and getting an add for 'learn hebrew in 24 hours' but that's only because google is utilising what everyone else has. And their only crime was the niavety that people would find this useful. Had they said 'magic pixies work out what you want and sudgest how to get it, while you browse your e-mail,' the tinfoil hate wearing community would embrace it (after all, fairies can't get through tinfoil!).
    G-mail is a wonderful, not only because of the unprecedented amoutn of free space, but because of it's intuative and innovative features that help you organise your e-mail while still having that sexy, clean, not 'all up in yo' face' look google is so good for.
    If i had to chooose between microsoft and google, i pick the one who vows to 'do no evil' and, so far, has done nothing to make me think otherwise

    --
    The Neo-Bohemian Techno-Socialist
    1. Re:'Cause no one else is scanning your e-mail by RickHunter · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I'm sorry, but unless Yahoo drastically changes their mail system, they simply cannot compete with gmail. The labels and easy-to-configure filters alone sold me on it, and the keyboard shortcuts were just icing on the cake. Add this to the fact that this is just the first iteration of the software - the developers are getting huge amouts of feedback and are making plans to include much of it.

      Anyone who thinks Yahoo's mail offering is even comprable because they're offering more space is insane.

  53. Python Script by logicnazi · · Score: 1

    That python script to transfer your mbox files to gmail doesn't work very well. I'm trying it on the unix machines at my office and it won't read my mbox files...sigh, I don't really want to screw around with the source code now...maybe I will try it at home.

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    1. Re:Python Script by marklyon · · Score: 1

      What application is generating your mbox file? Some apps seem to not be following the spec I used wehn writing the app. If you will, please shoot me an email about it. You'll find my email address when you execute the applicaiton.

      --
      -- Mark Lyon http://www.marklyon.org
    2. Re:Python Script by MoOsEb0y · · Score: 1

      I couldn't find a working SMTP server. My ISP (comcast) didn't work, and they now block port 25 so I can't use my own. Since the script doesn't support servers requiring authentication, I guess I'm SOL.

    3. Re:Python Script by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1
      HI Mark, just tried your gml script and this is what i found:

      1. The windows version presented for download is not an exe as the instructions say, its the same py file as the linux version.
      2. Trying to use the gml.py file under openbsd (and linux) on a thunderbird generated mbox file using the command './gml.py mbox "/home/richard/mbox/BristolLug" ' gives me the following error:

        Mbox & Maildir to Gmail Loader (GML) by Mark Lyon

        *** Can't open file or directory. Is the path correct? ***

        Usage: gml.exe [mbox or maildir] [mbox file or maildir path] [gmail address] [Optional SMTP Server]
        Exmpl: gml.exe mbox "c:\mail\Inbox" marklyon@gmail.com
        Exmpl: gml.exe maildir "c:\mail\Inbox" marklyon@gmail.com gsmtp171.google.com

        The mbox file does exist in the place specified, and is fully readable. Any ideas? Cheers
  54. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, since 98% of humans on earth have no idea what ssh is, they obviously have no right to use the internet. Because it's your internet and you make the rules.

  55. I got Five Invites by UnknownQ · · Score: 1

    I got five invites for the first five people to reply to this post.

    --
    Wherever you go, there you are!
    1. Re:I got Five Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can I get one? clay_alberty04_AT_yahoo.com

    2. Re:I got Five Invites by frogsarefriendly · · Score: 0

      frogsarefriendly@yahoo.com

    3. Re:I got Five Invites by therevolution · · Score: 1

      woohoo! mikemc@ecst.csuchico.edu
      Thanks!

    4. Re:I got Five Invites by slyxter · · Score: 0

      reply. slyxter@hotmail.com. damn 20 seconds...

    5. Re:I got Five Invites by baltimoretim · · Score: 1

      I'd love one: baltimoretimNOSPAM@yahoo.com minus the NOSPAM, obviously.

    6. Re:I got Five Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ninjak@gmx.de

      PLEASE hook me up thanks

    7. Re:I got Five Invites by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      please

      --
      "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
    8. Re:I got Five Invites by WebRat · · Score: 1

      "Wherever you go, there you are..."

      Spoken by Peter Weller, of course. Buckeroo Banzai!

      I'll bite for a GMail slice of geekdom.
      Thanks, Sam.

      wgillick@NosPam.yahoo.com

    9. Re:I got Five Invites by stars_are_number_1 · · Score: 1

      Me!

    10. Re:I got Five Invites by UnknownQ · · Score: 1

      "Wherever you go, there you are..."

      Spoken by Peter Weller, of course. Buckeroo Banzai!


      Good call on the quote... I've been waiting for someone to know where that was from.

      Phew... I'm all out. Maybe some one else can help me out from here.

      --
      Wherever you go, there you are!
    11. Re:I got Five Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rubensti@cox.net

    12. Re:I got Five Invites by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Yes, I would like one.
      John Larsen
      spamjlarsen@spamfsu.edu

      remove the spam.

  56. Wow :) by Zone-MR · · Score: 1

    Wow, that worked ? ;)

    I never thought I would lower myself to this level, but if anyone has one spare, I'd appreciate it :)

    t3h-invite at zone-mr dot ath dot cx

    1. Re:Wow :) by cmason32 · · Score: 1

      me too. :)

  57. PGP Anyone by eyeota · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're really paranoid, just PGP your messages. Granted there's no direct plugin I know of yet, but I'm sure it's about to come. Then again there's always c&p into your email.

    The propensity for unencrypted emails to be read and intercepted has existed on the net, but people just ignored the possibility or figured the probability of it happening them is low.

    If it bothers you there's an indefinate log of your email, encrypt it--So what if google shows you nothing by PGP ads on the right side of your screen ?

    1. Re:PGP Anyone by Zone-MR · · Score: 1

      Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of using GMail and its fast indexing/searching, since you won't be able to search messages?

      1GB isn't that impressive. I host my own mail server and get 400GB/the approx free space on my HDDs. Anyone with a permanant internet connection and basic knowledge of SMTP can do the same.

    2. Re:PGP Anyone by anethema · · Score: 1

      Well you obviously would only use this on messages that contain sensitive information.
      Not the 'no i love you more!' emails that slashdotters wish they had to write :)

      --


      It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
    3. Re:PGP Anyone by namemattersnot · · Score: 1

      i host my own server too (at home) but I get to travel around and put my internet subscription on hold every time i go away for a few months. being able to quickly access your e-mail from any place around the globe, not worrying about your server going down while you're away, or not having to pay rent + utilities + internet connection = saving yourself time and enough money to co-locate a server with more than 400GB of HDD space.

      1GB (free) is impressive compared to other service providers.

  58. PLEASE DONATE A GMAIL ACCOUNT TO ME THANKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I WILL RAP FOR GMAIL:

    What up everyone, I'm a real deal rapper/
    When i turn the lights off i use tha clapper/
    But i aint no grandma, Im a G/
    thats why i never pay, cuz i get girlies for free/
    so hook it up youngsta cuz i need gmail/
    i wont whine and beg cuz i aint no female/
    send me an invite and ill give u props/
    cuz my rappin here is strictly the tops

    ninjak@gmx.de ----- HOOK IT UP PLEASE

    Thanks,

    D. RAPPER

    1. Re:PLEASE DONATE A GMAIL ACCOUNT TO ME THANKS by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 1

      Someone hook this guy up, he deserves it.

    2. Re:PLEASE DONATE A GMAIL ACCOUNT TO ME THANKS by WebRat · · Score: 1

      If you'll write a 17 page dissertation on the justification of your Gmail account, then you can get one...
      (attempt at humour).

    3. Re:PLEASE DONATE A GMAIL ACCOUNT TO ME THANKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're white, aren't you?

  59. Gmail Reloaded by mlmitton · · Score: 1

    Reload...reload...reload...reload...reload... It's exactly like Slashdot!

    --
    "My girlfriend's got sodium laureth sulfate hair."
  60. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  61. Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Slime-Half · · Score: 5, Informative
    As suggested over at Wil Wheaton's blog, 1 gig of space is a perfect amount for troops to recieve/send videos and other keep-in-touch files that other web accounts can't handle.

    From the entry:

    Help spread the word about this effort, and keep checking back here for a link to the soon-to-be-built clearinghouse for requests.


    A worthy cause, I should think. Currently, I believe people are just looking over at gmailswap for service men and women to donate their invites to, until this 'clearinghouse' is created.

    I thought some slashdotters might be willing to participate.
    --
    Voices--Art, Poetry, Photography
    1. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wil Wheaton's blog? Really? Fucking awesome dude! No, just kidding, I think Wil Wheaton is an annoying fuck.

    2. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't pictures of sodomized Iraqis against Google's terms of service?

    3. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Wtcher · · Score: 1

      ...except that there's a 10mb limit on message sizes. I suppose they don't want people warezing or using their servers as data backup.

      --
      ----- Wtcher Dragon, UDIC
    4. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      Very nice idea. Let's hope Google notices the suggestion of opening up to the troops immediately and eliminates the need for gmailmilitaryswap.gov. I'll even send a suggestion pointing at the blog, tho I suppose many may have beaten me to it.

      --
      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    5. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Synkronos · · Score: 1

      Apparently the standard chunk size on a lot of the warez sites that do use email is 2.88Mb (3Mb is a pretty common attachment size limit), so an attachment limit of 10Mb will not even slow them down. A script to span-zip 10Mb chunks and email them one at a time is not difficult to implement, and beats the hell out of current 2.88Mb chunks.

      DISCLAIMER - I am not into warez, I just have some dodgy friends :P

      --
      Playing poker with a joker and some Uno cards
    6. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by KReilly · · Score: 1

      Thats great and all, but gmail is not setup to be able to send large files like that. I have a 15 meg file bounce back to the sender because gmail has a limit on the attachement size.

    7. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by aldoman · · Score: 1

      2.88MB is the standard size for rips.

      15MB is the standard size for CD games/movies.

      50MB is the standard size for DVD games/movies/console games.

    8. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Synkronos · · Score: 1

      Fair enough, I said I was no expert :) Tx for the info tho *files away in the 'useless info' part of brain*

      --
      Playing poker with a joker and some Uno cards
    9. Re:Donate Gmail invitations to troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree; need somewhere to keep all those prison photos.

  62. GMail Machine by hackman · · Score: 1

    I bet this is just what the GMail Machine wanted.. thousands of /. readers hitting refresh over and over and over. You'd think they would at least put some ads on the page to get some revenue from it..

    Any extra invites out there, you friendly /.ers? I got my wife a gmail account from gmail swap when they were going for good stuff.. but now I want one!

    --
    __ No registration required to read this message. They did it in the Matrix.
    1. Re:GMail Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just "won" an email account from the GMail Machine after just refreshing 20 times. However, since I am extremely unlucky, I get a 404 not found error when I submit my current email address to the GMail Machine site.

      Everyone can stop trying to win because you can't right now.

    2. Re:GMail Machine by Canadian+Idol · · Score: 1

      I "won" one last night (it was still 1 out of 20,000 at the time), I was able to enter my email address, but haven't received my code yet.
      - Marco

      --


      -
      My other .sig is a Mercury!
  63. i have 6 invitations ... by Naikrovek · · Score: 1

    contact me if you want one. first 6 get invites.

    1. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by frogsarefriendly · · Score: 0

      -- frogsarefriendly@yahoo.com

    2. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks man!!!!!!

      ninjak@gmx.de

    3. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by Naikrovek · · Score: 1

      all gone. sorry, but i'm sure someone else will invite you if you ask nice.

    4. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by Zone-MR · · Score: 1

      invite at zone-mr.ath.cx

      Thanks in advance!

    5. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1
      Many thanks ...

      timbolshaw+gmail At fastmail.fm

    6. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by WebRat · · Score: 1

      Invite please.

    7. Re:i have 6 invitations ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jcarminati at yahoo dot com

      Thanks!!!!!

  64. Gmail Maching Brutally Raped ;) by Zone-MR · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdotting a site which encourages users to repeatedly hit refresh?

    A new low, or were they just asking for it? ;)

  65. POP for Mac by wibs · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this already. Personally, I think GMail is fine and dandy except that I want to use Mail to read and send, and can completely do without the web interface aside from road trips.

    I checked out the PC Pop goes the Gmail to look for clues how they did it, but can't find anything useful. I've also tried using the httpmail plugin (designed for Hotmail and Mail), but am not sure how to configure it.

    So, how about it? I hear they're planning on POP for some point in the future, but I want to start using GMail as my privacy account now!

    --
    If you get nervous, just remember that there are a few billion other people who don't really give a damn.
  66. SSL & GMail by keg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gmail also has ability to run secure:

    https://www.gmail.com

    1. Re:SSL & GMail by Buran · · Score: 1

      It redirected me to my non-secure inbox when I did that (using http, not https).

    2. Re:SSL & GMail by keg · · Score: 1

      Yeah, seems that the login code is redirecting people the the non-secure site. A work around is after you login just change http back to httpS and it will remain until you logout.

  67. Re:Conspiracy by Yahoo or Hotmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I received my GMail invitation via my Yahoo Mail inbox just fine. This was last week.

    And to tell the truth, I prefer Yahoo Mail to GMail by far, but that's another story.

    Thanks for the post, oh fake video game company employee troll who needs karma points.

  68. Not going to accept or send email to/from Gmail? by Kalgash · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Directed to no one in particular because I am seeing more and more people take this stance.

    If you don't accept/reply to messages from Gmail your gesture is worth less than the click you didn't take.

    Want secure email? Get a cert and encrypt your messages. Only send messages to people on your same server. Make sure no one else has access to the server. Only you. Because as soon as that message leaves your client it is vulnerable to attack.

    Now is this likely to occur? Unless you are some sort of leet cracker duude or on some govy watch list or undersurvelllience guess what... Your rantings and "insights" have less value to the BigBrother complex than they do to the poor sap to which they were sent.

    Your messages are only valuable as part of a larger statistical model. If you have had an expectation of privacy when dealing with email you have been sadly mistaken.

  69. If you would like to be invited by PureFiction · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please send me an email to coderman at peertech.org with your first and last name, and email address (this is for the form).

    I will reply with your current position in the queue of people wanting an invite, and when I get more invitations (currently 5 every one to three days) I'll send you one.

    All I ask is this:
    1. Please tell me if you get invited before your turn in queue, otherwise I will waste an invitation.
    2. Please don't sell this invite, or sell the invites you subsequently get from your own account.

    People who sell or extort for invites lack integrity and are selfish. Don't be that kind of person.

    1. Re:If you would like to be invited by WebRat · · Score: 1

      Thanks, dude.
      you're helping us lose the yoke of MS-based mail.
      -Will

    2. Re:If you would like to be invited by bucky0 · · Score: 1

      Sweet man-
      Andrew Melo
      bucky |at| buck2k |dot| com

      --

      -Bucky
    3. Re:If you would like to be invited by PureFiction · · Score: 1

      I've sent 10 invites, and the queue is at ~65 people. If you don't mind waiting a week or two you can continue to send email, otherwise your best bet might be to try some of the other methods mentioned above.

      If you have some invites and would like to help me pare down the queue, that would be cool too, just let me know.

      Thanks.

    4. Re:If you would like to be invited by galo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've got 5 invites.. If someone wants an invitation, and I still have them :), just email me carlos DOT silva AT gmail DOT com .

    5. Re:If you would like to be invited by galo · · Score: 1

      I'm all out of invitations.. and with a queue of about 13 people.. but for all who sent an email..it may take a while.. but as soon as I get more I will be giving them. :)

  70. Blogger by tekisama · · Score: 0

    I got a free invite just for using Blogger ... and so did another friend using it. I'm assuming all Blogger users get one ...

    So of course I signed up for mine. Free is free, right?

    1. Re:Blogger by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      All ACTIVE blogger users. For example, my one-post blog (I ditched it for my /. journal quickly), Score:-5, Offtopic (score-5ot), didn't get it, because it's been inactive since October, and that was the only activity on it.

  71. Gmail invite request by cmason32 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    If anyone has an invite to donate, I'd appreciate it greatly. I can be reached at c-m-a-s-o-n-3-2@yahoo.com (remove the dashes).

    Thank you. :)

  72. Start Your Betting! by Farley+Mullet · · Score: 5, Funny
    I've you'd like a Gmail account, send me an email at chrislamothe@gmail.com and as I get invites I'll hook you up. I've hooked up 18 people this week alone.

    Slashdot vs. a 1 Gig Inbox: Who Will Win?

    1. Re:Start Your Betting! by los+furtive · · Score: 1
      For the record, 4 hours after posting my msg I got aprox 230 requests for a gmail invite...I gave out the first four of my five invites in order or request, and am now about to randomly choose the fifth one...As the days go by I'll diligently work my way through the list, but in response to your question, this is what shows up at the bottom of my screen after 230 requests:

      You are currently using 0 MB (0%) of your 1000 MB.

      So it appears that Slashdot is no match for the mighty Google.

      --

      I'm a writer, a poet, a genius, I know it. I don't buy software, I grow it.

    2. Re:Start Your Betting! by adpowers · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I posted my address offering invites to people on slashdot yesterday. It was a third level comment (a reply to a reply of a comment or 'grandchild' post). Even without being modded up, I got a page full of requests. Not nearly as bad as you, though. I took a screenshot after I got back to my computer.

      http://andrewhitchcock.org/images/gmail-slashdotte d.png

    3. Re:Start Your Betting! by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Emails are considered to be private and personal correspondence. Some people who mailed you might not appreciate the posting of that image of your gmail inbox. Just a friendly reminder.

      --

      Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?

    4. Re:Start Your Betting! by adpowers · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I didn't think it would be a problem because they are all impersonal ("Hey, could I get an account?"), but if you think it is a problem. Would you think it acceptable if I blurred the names, or should I blur the comments as well?

      Andrew

    5. Re:Start Your Betting! by NaDrew · · Score: 1
      http://andrewhitchcock.org/images/gmail-slashdotte d.png
      Your 404 is very clever. I like it.
      But I guess you meant this?
      --
      Vista:XPSP2::ME:98SE
    6. Re:Start Your Betting! by adpowers · · Score: 1

      Hehe, thanks about the 404. I... um... 'borrowed' it from another website, so I can't take the credit for it.

      I was trying to hide the image (see the post previous to yours), but I guess that doesn't work very well when the directory list is viewable :).

      Hmm. Oh well

      Andrew

  73. Multiple accounts violate the Gmail TOS... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think it's worth pointing out that having more than one Gmail account is currently against the Gmail's terms of service.

    From the Gmail Help Center:
    Can I have multiple accounts?

    While we test Gmail, we're gathering information and feedback from a
    diverse group of users to polish our product. As stated in the Gmail
    Program Policies, a Gmail user is allowed to open one Gmail account.

    Each invitation link is valid for creating only one account. With
    1,000 megabytes of storage per account, we hope you'll have enough
    room to store all necessary messages and information.

    If you would like to read more of our policies, please
    visit: http://www.google.com/gmail/help/program_policies. html.

    Thank you for your helping us improve Gmail.
    So, unless you've covered your tracks very well, don't expect to hold onto those accounts. I know of at least one case where a user who made more than one account had all his accounts shut down.

    Gmail is currently in beta. Use of that beta is a priviledge, not a right, so abusing it is the quickest way to find yourself locked out.
    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
    1. Re:Multiple accounts violate the Gmail TOS... by Rie+Beam · · Score: 1

      Yes, but mind you, I intend to eventually pass them on. All the information Google has for each account is simply first and last name, your requested e-mail address, and your secret question. The only information that may be possibly suspicious - secondary e-mail, is optional. Mind you, of course they may have tracked where the invites may have gone, but with the recent influx of them floating around, either they're too busy working to notice, just don't care, or I'm just a lucky sonofabitch. Who knows.

      Besides, as I stated before, I don't plan to hang around on the accounts for too long. My idea was to get things for them, but if worse comes to worse, I can also post the accounts with cooresponding passwords on some lonely slashdot post - say, a sig, and let nature work itself out.

      PS: I realize I am also a dumbshit for leaving my GMail account linked to my Slashdot user name. No need to send a message.

    2. Re:Multiple accounts violate the Gmail TOS... by Sarth · · Score: 1

      This is slashdot, man.. thats a Terms of Service, not the GPL. Expect it to be ignored thusly.

      --

      ... and, so began, the legend of the Five-point Atkins Exploding Heart Technique!

  74. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why can't everyone just ssh to their mail servers and grep the spool? Is the average user this clueless?

    Yes.
  75. Gmail Invite please - Pick Me! by kiwioddBall · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'd love one please to try it out... If anyone has one going please invite me - chchpete@hotmail.com!! I'll reply to this post when I get one, so you know you're not wasting your time! Thanks in advance, Pete!

    1. Re:Gmail Invite please - Pick Me! by WebRat · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I don't have an invite to give out, but because you are so nice:
      "I pick YOU!!!"

      Now, does that feel better?

      (yah, lame. But I'm groveling too, and I don't know why?)

    2. Re:Gmail Invite please - Pick Me! by kiwioddBall · · Score: 1

      A very generous gentleman has invited me and I have an account - Thankyou very much!

  76. trade for gmail account by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 1

    I will trade this slashdot account for a gmail invite. Reply if you're interested.

    Sort of lowish kind of UID ending in 00!!!! What a great account...

    1. Re:trade for gmail account by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 1

      That's not low. My uid isn't even low.

  77. Got Gmail... by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    Yes, my blog at blogspot.com got me my Golden Gmail Ticket. Frankly I don't know what all the hubbub is about. I look at it as yet another disposable address. :P

    --
    Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
    1. Re:Got Gmail... by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
      -- W., 2001


      Wow... Where did you get that amazing quote? I'd like to know the source because that's one Bushism I've never heard before. Cool stuff.

      --
      "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
    2. Re:Got Gmail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ almighty. This article is about google, and you can't even make the mental leap? FYI, he said it as a joke.

  78. yandex translated by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
    --
    [Fuck Beta]
    o0t!
  79. hook me up with an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    please please please???

    spamism666@yahoo.com

  80. Hang on in there for Opera support... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

    Safari support only got added a couple of weeks ago and it's likely that Opera support is just around the corner.

    Remember, the service is still in beta and far from being close to a full roll-out (there isn't even a "save as draft" option at the moment) so the current Opera incompatibility shouldn't be taken as an indication that Gmail will always be unusable to Opera users.

    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
  81. Still no invites here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ive had gmail for a few days now.. still havent gotten any invites to hand out?

  82. Re:Meh. by 1000StonedMonkeys · · Score: 1

    Ah, yet another answer providing a l33t solution that requires 3 times the effort but don't result in anything nearly as useful. This must be slashdot...

    Seriously, who the fsck would want to ssh to their mail servers and grep the spool when they could just type in a search term and instantly access the email within the context of its thread?

    (Yeah, I know this was probably a troll)

  83. Spymac.com by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Already at 1GB for email, 100MB webspace, and 250GB for Gallery pics.

    No waiting, sign up now.

    And no, not jut for macheads.

    1. Re:Spymac.com by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      The thing is, SoftHome (AFAICT) treats the validation e-mail as a spam, and drops it. Unfortunately, I don't get to see it because of this.

  84. Surprise me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And send me a Gmail invite/and or lots of porn ;)

    kevin_liversage@yahoo.co.uk

    Not so much anon coward eh.

  85. What! by Snaller · · Score: 1

    You mean you can't have folders??! Sounds lame... apart from that - any screenshots of the "sharp user interface"

    --
    If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
    1. Re:What! by stm2 · · Score: 1

      At the begining it was shocking to see there were no folders on Gmail. But you could easily emulate them using the labels. You just "label" a message instead of puting in a folder (or put a filter that labels the message and the "archive" it). If you want to see only the content of one folder, just select to view the ones labeled. If you don't want to see the content of a folder, just put "archive" on the filter and it will be the same as having a folder. The good thing is you could put more than one label per message.

      --
      DNA in your Linux: DNALinux
    2. Re:What! by Jahf · · Score: 1

      If you use an IMAP client and delete a message it doesn't actually get moved to the Trash folder (at least not in most cases), it simply gets "flagged" as deleted.

      The client shows it as a folder and so that is where people think it is, but in reality it is still in your inbox.

      If you use Evolution's V-Folders, it is the same idea ... create a virtual folder based on message criteria.

      While I don't have a Gmail account yet to compare, I would guess it is much the same thing.

      --
      It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
    3. Re:What! by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Sounds annoying, but perhaps i'll check it out once its generally open.

      Btw, did you in those links to "labels" or is it a new advertizing system slashdot is trying?

      --
      If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
    4. Re:What! by stm2 · · Score: 1

      I didn't do anything on the labels, didn't put a link there. Maybe you have some spyware that put links on 3rd party web pages :)

      --
      DNA in your Linux: DNALinux
    5. Re:What! by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Yes, that was exactly what had happened *grrrr* Have they no morals those creeps. What.. morals? how slilly of me

      --
      If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
    6. Re:What! by stm2 · · Score: 1

      I saw this on an Internet cafe. They are almost public machines since are used by anyone, so they are full of that kind of software. So, to see "whats hot" on spyware arena, go to your local internet cafe :)

      --
      DNA in your Linux: DNALinux
    7. Re:What! by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Heh, don't i know it :)

      --
      If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
  86. Somebody working on a similar webmail interface ? by IIEFreeMan · · Score: 1

    Is there an open source project going on to implement a similar interface to gmail (I think labels are really a great idea) for the webmail of my server ? :)

    Ideally it would be able to use IMAP as its backend to stay compatible with other clients ... but it might not be easy to store label information in IMAP ...

    Anyway if somebody has a spare invite i'm really interested (trying is the best way to start implementing it if it's not already started)

    gmail.50.freeman@spamgourmet.com

    thanks

  87. Addendum by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Yes, the spymac interface is quite bloated, slow, and mac oriented.

    But...I pop3 down to my machine, and leave the mail on spymacs server, for searching, access when I'm away from home, backed up on their dime.

    It does have it's uses.

  88. Note to self: by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 1
    Note to self: write to keyboard manufacturers and ask them to re-label that funny looking "broken windows" key between Ctrl and Alt to "Reload" key.

    Some people may associate that current logo with "rebooting" but that may only serve as a mnemonic...

    Why, of course I am also reloading that Gmail Machine lottery page with Pavlovian efficiency but one must always thrive for excellency...

    --

    Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?

    1. Re:Note to self: by almightyjustin · · Score: 1

      The F5 key is your friend.

      --

      Omnes arx vestrum sunt adiuncta nobis.

    2. Re:Note to self: by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 1
      F5 doesn't do it for me in Mozilla, and Ctrl-R is a bit of a stretch. Anyways I think a "reload/refresh key" would be kinda useful as a systemwide and OS-independent standard. A bit like the famous "Anykey".

      But you're still correct of course, F5 is my friend nevertheless.

      Post scriptum. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. There. :-)

      --

      Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?

  89. Boon to ebay sellers by bvwj · · Score: 1, Informative

    Invitations on ebay are now selling for over $20

    --
    You can mod me down, but you cannot call me a coward.
    1. Re:Boon to ebay sellers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there are some "Buy it now" ones from before the Slashdot story for $5.

      People are too lazy to find them, and are paying $15 instead.

  90. Bah 404 by Daath · · Score: 1

    I just refreshed a few times (they changed server - and apparently it can take the slashdot load) - and I got 1337! But after submitting your email, you get a 404 error. Great.

    --
    Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
    1. Re:Bah 404 by zoomba · · Score: 1

      Same thing happened to me... was it the MMGM Server?

    2. Re:Bah 404 by Daath · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he says he fixed it now though.

      --
      Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
  91. gmail-is-too-creepy.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It poses some interesting questions which probably doesnt sit too well with the "Linux-Apple-Google'are-the-good-guys-so-they-can- do-no-wrong" crowd around here.

    How bout a top 10 questions for the Google bosses from the /. crowd ?
    Im sure as geek faves, they wouldnt mind answering questions from a group which fawns over them. Of course, if we lob mainstream press softballs at them...

    zack

  92. GMail filesystem? by jrivar59 · · Score: 1

    How long till some uber-nerd builds a filesystem that uses GMail accounts for storage space? For each account you have your filesystem grows by 1gb, and you could raid different accounts so when google shuts you down for abuse, you don't loose your data. It just needs to do a lot of caching and email uuencoded data chunks to yourself to store the bits. I think its a winner... I should patent that idea.

    1. Re:GMail filesystem? by smash · · Score: 1
      How long till some uber-nerd builds a filesystem that uses GMail accounts for storage space? For each account you have your filesystem grows by 1gb, and you could raid different accounts so when google shuts you down for abuse, you don't loose your data. It just needs to do a lot of caching and email uuencoded data chunks to yourself to store the bits. I think its a winner... I should patent that idea.
      You realise that disk currently runs about $3/gig (australian) right?

      smash.

      --
      I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
    2. Re:GMail filesystem? by stecoop · · Score: 1

      You realize that $3/$0 is infinitly higher right?

  93. Why am I cursed? by slashdevslashtty · · Score: 1

    I got 1338! Damn the forces at work in this ordeal of torture!

    --


    M$ Lawyer: But `gcc /dev/random -o kernel.dll` is our trade secret!
    1. Re:Why am I cursed? by WebRat · · Score: 1

      Yah, me 2.
      I got 1437, sigh.

    2. Re:Why am I cursed? by flatface · · Score: 1

      Not that close, but 666 and 999. (Do you -really- need a screenshot for the latter?)

  94. I salute you, by RyLaN · · Score: 1

    You sirs of Gmail Machine have gained my utmost respect. I have watched, in under 20 minutes, your hitcounter move from 7.4 -> 8.2 millions hits. Thats 800,000 hits in 20 minutes, or about 670 hits per second. You have made monkeys out of us, something I haven't seen done so subtly in a long while. Congratulations in your enslavement of the internet populace at large.

    And I salute my new gmail-code-bearing overlords!

    --
    At least the war on the environment is going well
    1. Re:I salute you, by justMichael · · Score: 1

      He did this earlier in the week on Wednesday.

      The box it ran on peaked at 980 pages/sec right after it was mentioned on The Screen Savers. Then he ran out of invites ;)

      totals for the day (9:00a - 5:00p):
      bandwidth: just under 20G
      page views: just under 7 million
      max throughput: ~28 Mb/s
      busiest hour: 4PM PDT 2.25 million pages

      It made some pretty graphs, maybe they will show up online soon.

  95. Google is a devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is a devil and Gmail is one of it's tools!

  96. I'll have to modify that cartoon by Everyman · · Score: 1

    Goodness, all the groveling for Gmail invites. I should change the cartoon so that the last stage in devolution is not a mere Gmail logo, but something like a Slashdot logo superimposed on a Gmail logo.

  97. Re:Gmail- no IMAP by abhisarda · · Score: 1

    You moved from IMAP to web only email? Heh
    For me its the other way.. I have a gmail account but its only for novelty. Gmail users started getting invites quite regularly from last week or so.. Gmail's nice(damn fast) but I need one feature it doesn't offer-IMAP mail. I have a 1GB hosting account and only 50MB is used for hosting.. so the rest is available for email.
    A few days back, my yahoo account was near its limit and I received a warning about it. The very next email was from yahoo again, this time to notify that my storage had increased.

    But the madness for gmail accounts is amazing. In orkut there are like 40 communities setup to beg for invitations. The largest is 1000 odd members and there's even 1 that says "we hate gmail" so that some gmail member with invites might stop by and have pity on those pathetics(is that a word?).

    My wild guess about when gmail is available to the public?- About a week before Google's IPO.
    It would give users enough time to use gmail and probably become interested in buying a few shares( this reasoning's wrong but who knows).
    The other guess is that gmail will not become public until a much later time. Once it becomes open to the public, millions will sign up for accounts.. maybe google wants to do it in a phased manner. Invites might continue to increase from say 3 a day to 10-20. This is a lot more orderly and won't overburden the servers.. I don't know, I'm just talking out of my ass.

  98. Did We Accidentally Inspire Gmail? by Zastrossi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    About two years ago, my colleagues and I at Cape Clear devised something called GoogleMail. It was an extremely simple email interface to the Google API. You just send an email to google@capeclear.com and receive a reply with the top ten search results. I just checked it, and it still works. As you can see by the news coverage (scroll down), everyone loved the idea, even though it was practically useless. The only exceptions seemed to be visually-disabled people and those in countries whose governments blocked Web access to Google. We were contacted by Google and asked to change the name, which was fair enough. It now goes by CapeMail. I imagine a scenario, though, where somebody at Google brings up our little invention at a meeting. "GoogleMail? They can't call it that. Get legal on the phone." Legal calls us, and we change the name. However, the phrase GoogleMail sticks in somebody's head back at Google corporate HQ. Two years later, Gmail is borne. Coincidence? Probably, but it's fun to speculate.

  99. gmail machine contest by cmason32 · · Score: 1

    Lowest number: 4 Highest Number: 19812 Closest number: 1332 Numbers that temprorarily fooled you: 137 13937 1997 What are yours?

    1. Re:gmail machine contest by WebRat · · Score: 1

      highest: 20000
      lowest: double digits
      fooled: 1437

    2. Re:gmail machine contest by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      I got a 1331, and 1339. ohh so close.

      I also jsut wateched the counter roll to 10000000. it's almost as fun watching that thing move as it is looking for 1337.

    3. Re:gmail machine contest by Doomie · · Score: 1

      13337 and 13377 got me :)

      --
      Doomie
    4. Re:gmail machine contest by Kid+Zero · · Score: 1

      Lowest: 5

    5. Re:gmail machine contest by westphalia999 · · Score: 1

      337 fooled me.. and then I started watching the hitcount at the bottom of the page and forgot about the number up top! ... hopefully it didn't pass by :) ...

      --
      ..this is but a fantasy..
    6. Re:gmail machine contest by XBL · · Score: 1

      I got a 0 and 1338 :-(

    7. Re:gmail machine contest by westphalia999 · · Score: 1

      closest is 1336 :(

      --
      ..this is but a fantasy..
    8. Re:gmail machine contest by Styx · · Score: 1

      4 tries, then I hit 1337. Haven't gotten my code yet, though.

      --
      /Styx
    9. Re:gmail machine contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lowest: 6
      Highest: 96820
      Number that fooled me: 13370 (has come up about 5 times ! )

  100. Still Looking by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

    If any kind souls out there still have an invite to spare, i'd love one - email tmr4488@ritvax.rit.edu

    Thanks!

    1. Re:Still Looking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch comments.pl - there is a user who posts 10 a day in there. neverkevin?

  101. Re:FREE GMAIL ACCOUNT by Daath · · Score: 1

    haahhaahaha good one :)
    "Just execute the binary file that I send you!"

    --
    Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
  102. Just won a gmail invite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoo hoo!
    I refreshed for about 5 minutes and won!

  103. Well..... by City_Idiot · · Score: 1

    I just won a gmail account from the gmachine in 15 refreash's :D Cant be that hard

  104. please send to carotids@carotids.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Girl: Hi
    Boy: hello
    Boy: who is this?
    Girl: just a someone?
    Boy: A someone I know?
    Girl: nope
    Boy: Then why the hell are you bothering me?
    Girl: well sorrrrrry
    Girl: I just wanted to chat with you
    Boy: why?
    Girl: nevermind your an asshole
    Boy: Hey wait a minute
    Girl: yes?
    Boy: look I'm sorry. I'm just a little paranoid
    Girl: paranoid?
    Boy: yes
    Girl: of what?
    Girl: me?
    Boy: No. I'm in hiding.
    Girl: LOL
    Boy: Don't f***ing laugh at me!
    Boy: This s**t is serious!
    Girl: What are you hiding from?
    Boy: The cops.
    Girl: gimme a f**king break
    Boy: I'm serious.
    Girl: I don't get it
    Boy: The cops are after me.
    Girl: For what?
    Boy: I'm wanted in three states
    Girl: For???
    Boy: It's kindof embarrasing.
    Boy: I had sex with a turkey.
    Boy: Hello?
    Girl: You are f**king sick.
    Boy: Send me your picture.
    Girl: why?
    Boy: so I know you aren't one of them.
    Girl: One of what?
    Boy: The cops.
    Girl: I'm not a cop i told you
    Boy: Then send me your picture.
    Girl: hold on
    Boy: Hurry up.
    Boy: Are you there?

    (continued)

  105. Re:I have 8 invites left by Daath · · Score: 1

    George W. Bush
    georgyboy@whitehouse.gov
    1

    When can I expect it?

    --
    Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
  106. continued... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boy: f**k you, cop!
    Girl: Hey sorry
    Girl: I had to do something for my mom.
    Boy: I thought you were trying to find a picture to send to me.
    Boy: When really you were notifying the authorities.
    Boy: Weren't you!?
    Girl: thats not it
    Boy: Then what?
    Girl: I don't want to send you the picture cause I'm not pretty
    Boy: Most cops aren't
    Girl: IM NOT A f**kING COP YOU DICKHEAD!
    Boy: Then send me the picture.
    Girl: fine. What's your e-mail?
    Boy: Just send it through here.
    Girl: alright *PIC*
    Girl: Did you get it?
    Boy: Hold on. I'm looking.
    Girl: That was me back in may
    Girl: I've lost weight since then.
    Boy: I hope so
    Girl: what?!?
    Girl: that hurt my feelings.
    Boy: Did it?
    Girl: Yes. I'm not that much smaller than that now.
    Boy: Will it make you feel better if I send you my picture?
    Girl: yes
    Boy: Alright let me find it.
    Girl: kks
    Boy: Okay here it is. *PIC*
    Girl: this isn't you.
    Boy: I'll be damned if it ain't!
    Girl: You don't look like that.
    Boy: How the hell do you know?
    Girl: cause your profile has another picture.
    Boy: The profile pic is a fake.
    Boy: I use it to hide from the cops.
    Girl: You look like the Farm Fresh guy lol
    Boy: Well, you look like you ATE the Farm Fresh guy....
    Boy: Not to mention all the groceries.
    Girl: Go f**k yourself
    Boy: I was going to until I saw that picture
    Boy: Now my dick won't get hard for a week.
    Girl: I shouldn't have sent you that picture.
    Girl: You've done nothing but slam me.
    Girl: you hurt me.

    1. Re:continued... by BoldAC · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Boy: And calling me the Farm Fresh guy doesn't hurt me?
      Girl: I thought you were bulls**tting me!
      Boy: Why would I do that?
      Girl: I can't believe that cops are after you
      Boy: I can't believe Santa lets you sit on his lap..
      Girl: FUC YOU!!!
      Boy: You'd break both of his legs.
      Girl: You're a f**king asshole.
      Girl: I've been teased my whole life because of my weight
      Girl: and you make fun of me when you don't even know me
      Boy: Ok. I'm sorry.
      Girl: No you aren't
      Boy: You're right. I'm not.
      Boy: HAARRRRR!
      Girl: I'm done with you
      Boy: Aww. I'm sorry.
      Girl: I'm putting you on ignore
      Boy: Wait a sec
      Boy: We got off on the wrong foot.
      Boy: Wanna start over?
      Girl: No
      Boy: I'll eat your p***y
      Girl: You'll what?
      Boy: You heard me.
      Boy: I said I'd eat your p***y.
      Girl: I thought you said you couldn't get it hard after seeing my picture
      Boy: Do I need a hard-on to eat your p***y?
      Girl: I'd like to know that the man eating me out is excited yes
      Boy: Well I'm not like most men.
      Boy: I get excited in different ways.
      Girl: Like what?
      Boy: Do you really wanna know?
      Girl: I don't know
      Boy: You have to tell me yes or no.
      Girl: I'm afraid to
      Boy: Why?
      Girl: cause
      Boy: cause why?
      Girl: well lets see
      Girl: you say you have sex with turkeys. You call me fat. then you wanna eat me out
      Girl: doesn't that seem strange to you?
      Boy: Nope
      Girl: well its strange to me
      Boy: Fine. I won't do it if you don't want me to
      Girl: I didn't say that
      Boy: So is that a yes?

    2. Re:continued... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Girl: I guess so.
      Boy: Ok. I need your help getting excited though.
      Boy: Are you willing?
      Girl: What do you need me to do?
      Boy: I need you talk like a pirate.
      Girl: ???
      Boy: When I start to go limp... you say "HARRRR!!!"
      Boy: ok?
      Boy: Hello?
      Girl: You can't be serious
      Boy: Oh yes I am!
      Boy: It's my fantasy.
      Girl: this is retarded
      Boy: Do you want it or not?
      Girl: Yes I want it.
      Boy: Then you'll do it for me?
      Girl: sure
      Boy: Ok. Here we go.
      Boy: I gently remove your panties and being to massage your thighs.
      Boy: You get really juicy thinking about my tounge brushing up against them
      Boy: I softly begin to tounge your wet p***y.
      Boy: I run my tounge up and down your smooth slit.
      Girl: mmmm yeah
      Boy: uh oh ...going limp.
      Girl: Har
      Boy: You gotta do better than that!
      Boy: Your picture was really bad.
      Girl: HARRRRRRRRRRRR
      Boy: Ahhhh. Much better. I feel your p***y get more moist with every stroke.
      Boy: I softly suck on your clit bringing it in and out of my mouth.
      Boy: Your juices run down my chin as your scent makes its way to my nose.
      Boy: I begin to feel empowered by your femininity.
      Girl: mmmmmm you are good
      Boy: I feel your thighs tighten as I suck harder
      Boy: going limp
      Girl: HARRRRRRR
      Boy: Mmmm I grab your swelling buttocks in my hands.
      Boy: You begin to sway back and forth.
      Boy: going limp

    3. Re:continued... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Girl: this is stupid
      Boy: ...still limp
      Boy: Do it!
      Girl: HARRRRRRRRRRRRR
      Boy: I turn you around to lick your asshole.
      Boy: I pry apart that battleship you call your ass.
      Boy: I see s**t nuggets hanging from the hair around your asshole.
      Girl: WTF?!?!?
      Boy: They stink really bad.
      Girl: OMG STOP!!!
      Boy: I start to get fed up with your ugly ass
      Boy: I tear off your wooden peg leg.
      Boy: I ram it up your ass.
      Girl: YOURE A f**kING PYSCHO!!
      Boy: Then I pour hot carmel over your head.
      Boy: And turn you into a f**king candy apple...
      Boy: I kick you in the face!
      Girl: f**k YOU ASSHOLE!!
      Boy: The celluloid from your cheeks hits the side of the cabin...
      Boy: Your parrot flys away.
      Boy: ...going limp again.
      Boy: Hello?
      Boy: Say it!
      Boy: HAARRRRRR!!!!!

      I get a chuckle out of this everytime I read it... I hope it is worth a gmail invite. Thanks in advance.

      carotids@carotids.com

  107. Kind of a funny PRNG by Daath · · Score: 1

    Right now the page has been refreshed 9.623.442 times, and only 72 of those refreshes resultet in the 1337 number. 1 in 133659 got the right number, and it only ranges from 1-20000 (it was a different range for a while I think he wrote)...

    --
    Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
  108. Re:I have 8 invites left by WebRat · · Score: 1

    God
    youIsOwned@Heaven.god

    Your life expectancy is much lower now.

    --All the best,
    God

  109. give carotids a gmail account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bloodninja: Baby, I been havin a tough night so treat me nice aight?
    BritneySpears14: Aight.
    bloodninja: Slip out of those pants baby, yeah.
    BritneySpears14: I slip out of my pants, just for you, bloodninja.
    bloodninja: Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
    BritneySpears14: Oh, I like to play dress up.
    bloodninja: Me too baby.
    BritneySpears14: I kiss you softly on your chest.
    bloodninja: I cast Lvl 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.
    BritneySpears14: Hey...
    bloodninja: I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl 8 Penis of the Infinite.
    BritneySpears14: Funny I still don't see it.
    bloodninja: I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty of the Beyondness.
    BritneySpears14: You are the worst cyber partner ever. This is ridiculous.
    bloodninja: Don't **** with me biznitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
    bloodninja: I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl 2 Druid.
    BritneySpears14: Don't ever message me again you piece.
    bloodninja: Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.
    bloodninja: King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him.
    bloodninja: You still there baby? I think it's getting hard now.
    bloodninja: Baby?

  110. more carotids... by BoldAC · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Bloodninja:Wanna cyber?
    DirtyKateK, but don't tell anybody ;-)
    DirtyKate:Who are you?
    Bloodninja: I've got blond hair, blue eyes, I work out a lot
    Bloodninja:And I have a part time job delivering for Papa John's in my Geo Storm.
    DirtyKate:You sound sexy.. I bet you want me in the back of your car..
    Bloodninja:Maybe some other time. You should call up Papa John's and make an order
    DirtyKate: Haha! OK
    DirtyKate:Hello! I'd like an extra-EXTRA large pizza just dripping with sauce.
    Bloodninja:Well, first they would say, "Hello, this is Papa John's, how may I help you", then they tell you the specials, and then you would make your order. So that's an X-Large. What toppings do you want?
    DirtyKate:I want everything, baby!
    Bloodninja:Is this a delivery?
    DirtyKate:Umm...Yes
    DirtyKate:So you're bringing the pizza to my house now? Cause I'm home alone... and I think I'll take a shower...
    Bloodninja:Good. It will take about fifteen minutes to cook, and then I'll drive to your house.
    **pause**
    DirtyKate:I'm almost finished with my shower... Hurry up!
    Bloodninja:You can't hurry good pizza.
    Bloodninja:I'm on my way now though
    **pause**
    DirtyKate:So you're at my front door now.
    Bloodninja:How did you know?
    Bloodninja:I knock but you can't hear me cause you're in the shower. So I let myself in, and walk inside. I put the pizza down on your coffee table.
    Bloodninja:Are you ready to get nasty, baby? I'm as hot as a pizza oven
    DirtyKateooohh yeah. I step out of the shower and I'm all wet and cold. Warm me up baby
    Bloodninja:So you're still in the bathroom?
    DirtyKate:Yeah, I'm wrapping a towel around myself.
    Bloodninja:I can no longer resist the pizza. I open the box and unzip my pants with my other hand. As I penetrate the gooey cheese, I moan in ecstacy. The mushrooms and Italian sausage are rough, but the sauce is deliciously soothing. I blow my load in seconds. As you leave the bathroom, I exit through the front door....
    DirtyKate:What the f**k?
    DirtyKate:You perverted piece of s**t
    DirtyKate:F**k

  111. Re:MOD PARENT UP -- MODERATOR ABUSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some moderators are al qaeda. We have loved ones two, you imperialist infidel!

  112. same theme... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bloodninja: Wanna cyber?
    MommyMelissa: Sure, you into vegetables?
    Bloodninja: What like gardening an ****?
    MommyMelissa: Yeah, something like that.
    Bloodninja: Nuthin turns me on more, check this out
    Bloodninja: You bend over to harvest your radishes.
    (pause)
    MommyMelissa: is that it?
    Bloodninja: You water your tomato patch.
    Bloodninja: Are you ready for my fresh produce?
    MommyMelissa: I was thinking of like, sexual acts INVOLVING vegetables... Can you make it a little more sexy for me?
    (pause)
    Bloodninja: I touch you on your lettuce, you massage my spinach... Sexily.
    Bloodninja: I ride your buttocks, like they were amber waves of grains.
    MommyMelissa: Grain doesn't really turn me on... I was thinking more along the lines of carrots and zucchinis.
    Bloodninja: my zucchinis carresses your carrots.
    Bloodninja: Damn baby your right, this s**t is HOT.
    MommyMelissa: ...
    Bloodninja: My turnips listen for the soft cry of your love. My insides turn to celery as I unleash my warm and sticky cauliflower of love.
    MommyMelissa: What the f**k is this madlibs? I'm outta here.
    Bloodninja: Yah, well I already unleashed my cauliflower, all over your olives, and up in your eyes. Now you can't see. *****.
    MommyMelissa: whatever.

    bloodninja: Ok baby, we got to hurry, I don't know how long I can keep it ready for you.
    j_gurli3: thats ok. ok i'm a japanese schoolgirl, what r u.
    bloodninja: A Rhinocerus. Well, hung like one, thats for sure.
    j_gurli3: haha, ok lets go.
    j_gurli3: i put my hand through ur hair, and kiss u on the neck.
    bloodninja: I stomp the ground, and snort, to alert you that you are in my breeding territory.
    j_gurli3: haha, ok, u know that turns me on.
    j_gurli3: i start unbuttoning ur shirt.
    bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't wear shirts.
    j_gurli3: No, ur not really a Rhinocerus silly, it's just part of the game.
    bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't play games. They ******* charge your ***.
    j_gurli3: stop, cmon be serious.
    bloodninja: It doesn't get any more serious than a Rhinocerus about to charge your ***.
    bloodninja: I stomp my feet, the dust stirs around my tough skinned feet.
    j_gurli3: thats it.
    bloodninja: Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn.
    bloodninja: **** am I hard now.

    1. Re:same theme... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BritneySpears14: Ok, are you ready?
      eminemBNJA: Aight, yeah I'm ready.
      BritneySpears14: I like your music Em... Tee hee.
      eminemBNJA: huh huh, yeah, I make it for the ladies.
      BritneySpears14: Mmm, we like it a lot. Let me show you.
      BritneySpears14: I take off your pants, slowly, and massage your muscular physique.
      eminemBNJA: Oh I like that Baby. I put on my robe and wizard hat.
      BritneySpears14: What the ****, I told you not to message me again.
      eminemBNJA:
      BritneySpears14: I swear if you do it one more time I'm gonna report your ISP and say you were sending me kiddie porn you **** up.
      eminemBNJA: Oh
      eminemBNJA: damn I gotta write down your names or something

  113. Alternative Email upload: Bounce with Mutt by Bubblehead · · Score: 1

    There is another way of quickly uploading all your messages to Gmail (or any other service for that matter): The Mutt Email Client. Mutt has a feature that I haven't seen in any other email client, and that I wouldn't want to miss ever: Bouncing. That's similar to forwarding, except that the message stays completely unmodified - upon receiving, all the difference you see is an additional "Received:" entry in the mail header. Very cool, and extremely useful!

    --
    Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
    1. Re:Alternative Email upload: Bounce with Mutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mutt has a feature that I haven't seen in any other email client

      Pine

  114. Re:Somebody working on a similar webmail interface by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

    Open source? Damn. I'd say grab a copy of Windows Server 2003, and Exchange, and set it up. Almost full Outlook functionality, and it's got a lot of those features.

    Now, if there were just an M2-like webmail interface (I use Opera M2, and it's indexing capabilities are like GMail on steroids...)

  115. You know what's cooler than gmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having your own domain and e-mail addresses. I've had at least 30 times the capacity of a gmail-box for several years now.

    (And I didn't have to send nudie pics to get it.)

  116. Still some issues by patdabiker · · Score: 1
    Gmail still has some compatibility issues with Safari. I often have to refresh after going to gmail.com to get to see the actual page. Also, creating filters tends to crash the browser. Finally, it doesn't seem to fit wide messages into my browser well. The ads overlay much of the message. Looks like a pretty basic formatting error though. I expect these problems to be fixed in the future.

    I don't consider Gmail ready, but it is great even with the afore-mentioned issues. Conversations rock, and search, while not as good as Mail, is quick and easy. Keyboard shortcuts and auto-fill email addresses add important features to webmail that I would normally only expect from a POP or IMAP email account.

    I've got a couple gmail invites to give away, if anyone wants to try it out. Email me at phatpat@gmail.com.

  117. Another funny IRC log by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thanks for the assist BoldAC. Glad to find another fan of the series. Here is another funny one that is unique... and totally reminds me of my college days.

    support this funny stuff... gmail account invite to carotids@carotids.com... please, please.

    <Kazz> Do vampires have anuses? Cause that's why I wouldn't let this kid
    invade a vampire's anus in this RPG, right, I was GMing, and his character
    was an Anus Shade, with the power to possess and control the anuses of
    people and animals.. and I figured that vampires don't have anuses.
    <Zaratustra> a vampire's anus is present, but non-working.
    <Zaratustra> like a network card without the appropriate driver.
    <Kazz> Wow. You're the biggest dork on Earth.
    <Sharkey> And you're DMing an rpg with Anus Shades.

  118. First one gets it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-7ceffa6bcc-f47ffd7 163

  119. gmail swap is uber spiffy by carterhawk001 · · Score: 0

    yup, i just got mine, im very excited... i think.... GEEKDOM!!!!!!

  120. Statistical probability by cgenman · · Score: 1

    Just a quick note, the chance of getting a Gmail account on Gmail machine is one in 30000 on any given reload. It would take 20794 reloads to have just a %50 chance of getting a GMail account. If one downloads Opera and sets the reload on the gmail machine to every second, that's two weeks. Now, admittedly, one could be smarmy and open a whole host of opera windows reloading every second, but we don't even know if the reloading window would blow away the winning announcement.

    On the other hand, one could spend much less time writing clever limericks in the hopes that someone will give them an account

    There was a man without gmail
    Whose VAC could tell quite the tale
    his wife worked real hard
    to stack the punch cards
    but she died, and now he's in jail

    cgenman@pobox.com

    1. Re:Statistical probability by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      The Gmail Machine appears to be bogus. Betwen page views 12372884 and 12793550 (420666 views) zero codes have been given away by the system. Then again, perhaps he's processing the lucky winners by email? If that is true, however, the number of available codes is not what it says on the page and then it's not just bogus, it's a scam, though it's difficult to say what the angle is.

      420666/30000 is 140.222...

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:Statistical probability by cgenman · · Score: 1

      I've seen that counter go from 56 to 79 in roughly the past hour. If we assume 23 have been given away in the past hour, and the possibility of getting an account is 1 in 30,000, then the person has probably gotten 690000 hits. That breaks down to 191 hits per second.

      That sounds believeable to me. Of course, if you go by their counter, they're recieving about 500 hits per second... but perhaps the Slashdot effect intensifies the longer the link has been on the front page, and therefore the number of people who have scripted automated systems.

    3. Re:Statistical probability by ender- · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, as I write this the page has been loaded over 30,000,000 times, and they've only given away 126 invites. Which means they are actually only giving out an invite approximately every 265,000 page loads...

      Ender

  121. Re:Gmail- no IMAP by leerpm · · Score: 1

    Well hopefully it is not in beta for as long as Froogle was. That service wasn't upgraded from beta status for at least a year or so.

  122. I have 1 invite and the blogger invite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you are interested don't post, send a mesage to: larry2kNOSPAM@NOSPAMmit.edu remove the NOSPAM text

  123. Yahoo vs Gmail? by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

    Although I recently got the size bump from Yahoo I'm still dying to try out GMail's interface. If someone can spare an invite I solemnly swear to be as generous with any invites I get, thanks in advance!
    hexagontk (at) yahoo.com

    Jonah Hex

  124. PLEEEEASSSSSEEEEEE! *BEGS* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I have one?
    justm3@mailinator.com

  125. Re:Meh. by superdude72 · · Score: 1

    (Yeah, I know this was probably a troll)

    I wasn't trolling. I thought it was pretty clear that I was kidding. Makes me laugh...

  126. Re:Gmail- no IMAP by Tony-A · · Score: 1

    But the madness for gmail accounts is amazing.

    I'd guess that the real market for gmail is corporate email and the ability to track and recover correspondence over a long time-span. To be effective it has to be shaken out very thoroughly and that looks to be what Google is doing with it.

  127. Invites by TheMaskedMan · · Score: 1

    Send Gmail invites to: themaskedman@gmail.com

    kthx. ;-P

  128. GMail Machine Cheat I Made by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Load file:// in Mozilla/Firefox. It will need a little babysitting. I have had running for an hour with no luck. Damn this is a cool cheat ;-)
    <html><head><script>

    function test() {
    netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivileg e("UniversalBrowserRead");

    var doc = window.frames[0].document;
    var value = doc.getElementsByTagName("div")[5].firstChild.node Value;

    if(value == "1337") {
    alert("I WON!");
    }
    else{
    setTimeout(reload,500);
    }
    }

    function reload() {
    document.location.reload();
    }

    </script></head ><body onload="test()">

    <iframe height="100%" width="100%" src="http://gmailmachine.mmgn.com/"/>

    </body></ html>
  129. Gmail machine rigged by dhartmei · · Score: 1

    If that was a fair 1d20000 (or 1d30000) on each reload, what are the chances that out of 11686984 throws, only 72 end up matching one particular number? It's obviously rigged.

    1. Re:Gmail machine rigged by Doomie · · Score: 1

      if it's a Gaussian distribution with mean at 10000 (or 15000), and some small standard deviation, then 1337 should appear quite rarely.

      but if's a uniform distribution, then yet, you're right

      --
      Doomie
  130. Re:I have 8 invites left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If ya still have any extras toss one my way. Lord_Elderon@yahoo(nospam).com

  131. um... me too! by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

    send off an invite to spambait@ForgottenNewbies.com and i'll try to take advantage of it :D

    --
    Don't call me back. Give me a call back. Bye. So yeah. But bye our, well, but alright we are on a shirt this chill.
  132. Free Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a bunch of extra invites.

    email me with first name, last name, and email addy.

    First come - - - First serve
    while supplies last.

    bcurtis@gmail.com

  133. I coulda sold... by Xshare · · Score: 1

    I got my invite a while back, a couple weeks. I've since given out (for free, of course) over 25 invites. Had I sold all of them, in hindsight I see, I could have made more than $200, perhaps much more in how they were selling back then. But I'm a nice guy. I say keep Gmail free.

  134. getting gmail account is like getting sex! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMFG GIMME

  135. On Gmail, invitations, and alternatives by gwoodrow · · Score: 1

    Alright - I'm too lazy to post my myriad of responses to many of hte above comments... so I'll just post once.

    First - I feel sorry for the guy that mentioned he had some invitations. No doubt his gmail account's 1 gig limit is being tested by the torrent of email from eager slashdotter geeks desperate to get at one of his invitations.

    Next issue.. For those that really just want a fat email box for free - I highly suggest going over to Spymac, or even Lycos - both of which offer 1 gig mailboxes. I personally hate ALL webmail, forgoing it for the sake of using Thunderbird. That being the case, I rarely experience the same problems with email services that other people do who prefer webmail. If you use an external mail program - spymac is great. If you prefer webmail... well, keep trying to get a gmail invite.

    Some of the people are complaining about Spymac asking for lots of personal information. Am I the only one that has a fake name and address for use in sign-ups? When I was a teen, I was worried that companies would check my fake info, track me down, and pistol-whip me or something. Then, after a few times doing it, I realized that human eyes probably never actually see my fake information. My information is harvested, shared, then printed on junk mail ALL by computers. So, it's easy to get away with fake addresses. Although I feel sorry for whoever lives at 999 Mybunghole Lane, Redneck, GA 31337. They've probably gotten a TON of junk mail for "Joe Momma." But here I am sitting pretty, with all my free internet and email accounts. No secret police have come after me yet.

    Lastly, I am pissed at the creator of that Gmail Machine, as well as the person who added it to slashdot for my weak mind to stumble upon. I already have two Gmail accounts - and here I am just reloading and reloading and reloading. I feel like an old woman in vegas at the slot machines... or a college girl clicking away at Diamond Mine/Bejewelled. It's mine-numbingly addictive. Damn you slashdot and Gmail machine... damn you....

  136. I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

    Post it your e-mail if you want it.

    1. Re:I got 3 invites left. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ddr_discostu (at) hotmail.com

    2. Re:I got 3 invites left. by volinux · · Score: 1

      volatile451 at yahoo.com

    3. Re:I got 3 invites left. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'd really like one

      ndemon AT hotmail.com

    4. Re:I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      sent.

    5. Re:I got 3 invites left. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vipe (at) faxed.net

      Thanks

    6. Re:I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      sent...

    7. Re:I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      You got the last one, all sent. :)

    8. Re:I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      ALL INVITES SENT. :)

      Sorry to those who didn't get.... but keep an eye because lots of users got more invites tonight.

    9. Re:I got 3 invites left. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need to apologize :)

      My luck is shot tonight - this and getting #1336 on the gmail machine :D

    10. Re:I got 3 invites left. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      keep trying..1337 will be yours soon ;p

      Was better when someone from irc made a vb applet to reload for you .. but that was this morning and this is now :)

    11. Re:I got 3 invites left. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that they just raised it to 50,000 numbers - I doubt it ;)

    12. Re:I got 3 invites left. by geek · · Score: 1

      When you get more, as everyone seems to be getting like 10 a week now, could you send one to todd AT iamblue dot net?? I'd be indebted to you.

  137. A little quiz for the Glamers by bl8n8r · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You SimpleSimons that are playing down any kind of foul play by google are really fucking clueless you know that?

    A) Do you really think Google is just giving you a gig of storage because they want to be your friend?

    (If you answer YES, go to question B)

    B) Do you really think that Google does not give a fuck about the content of your email?

    (If you answer YES, go to question C)

    C) Do you enter your real name and address on subscription websites ?

    (If you answer YES, go to question D)

    D) Do you ever wonder why telemarketers call you all the time?

    (If you answer NO, go to question E)

    E) Do you know the difference between a blowjob and and ice cream cone?

    (If you answer NO go to question F)

    F) Meet me for Ice Cream Saturday at the Baskin Robbins on the corner. I'll buy.

    --
    boycott slashdot February 10th - 17th check out: altSlashdot.org
  138. Anymore invites out there? by ardustry · · Score: 1

    A spare invite would be most appreciated. Are there any more out there? xmijitx (@) yahoo.com

  139. Awww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone didn't get invited.

  140. Kudos, Michael... by HedonismBot · · Score: 1

    Truly outstanding post and editing, I'm bookmarking this for future reference.

    --
    Sailors. Oh man!
  141. Okay, so when's the GMail middleman getting here? by jemenake · · Score: 3, Interesting
    One of the links in the main story has *another* link to gmail-is-too-creepy.com. One of the things that page mentions is that many people (aside from not wanting a GMail account for themselves) are electing to never *send* mail to GMail, for fear that it will get permanently archived forever.

    So, I guess it's inevitable that someone's going to make a site that lets you send to GMail while avoiding it. Imagine checking your GMail and getting a message saying:
    You have received a piece of mail which the sender does not want archived by the GMail servers. Click Here to read it...
    which would be a link to a web page which held the message for, say, two weeks. The service could be set up as a mail relayer, of sorts, where it would be easy to reply to GMail people. For example, the site could be, say, notgmail.com. Then, when replying to someone at GMail, you just add "not" to the address and the service would handle saving your message (only for two weeks, remember) and sending the real Gmail recipient the notice that they've got mail waiting.

    I'm surprised that something like this isn't here already. Just imagine GMail's archives getting flooded with "You have received....".
  142. Improved Version, less babysitting needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    <html><head><script>

    function test() {
    netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivileg e("UniversalBrowserRead");

    var doc = window.frames[0].document;

    try {
    var value = doc.getElementsByTagName("div")[5].firstChild.node Value;
    }
    catch(e) {
    reload();
    }

    if(value == "1337") {
    alert("I WON!");
    }
    else{
    setTimeout(reload,500);
    }
    }

    function reload() {
    document.location.reload();
    }

    </script></head ><body onload="test()">

    <iframe height="100%" width="100%" src="http://gmailmachine.mmgn.com/"/>

    </body></ html>
  143. I could care less by aussie_a · · Score: 1

    All ISPs come with something called an e-mail account. Most of them allow you to store the e-mails on your computer getting around any limits. "Yes you google lets you search your entire e-mail." That is certainly a wow factor and one that almost made me want to go to g-mail, until I realised Thunderbird and Mozilla did the exact same thing. "Yes but google let's you have threads" which surprisingly enough, as does thunderbird and mozilla. "Yes but gmail let's you read e-mails anywhere" but I don't need that. I can have Thunderbird keep my e-mails in the e-mail server I use for however many days I want. Currently that's until I move it from my inbox folder (which I do when the information is no longer important and I only need it for archival purposes). I don't need archived e-mails except when I'm on my home computer. There were two things that I was excited about with gmail. Threads and the search function. But now that I can do both, I don't care anymore.

    1. Re:I could care less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's couldn't care less FFS.

  144. Has anyone got a mirror/torrent for GTray? by HedonismBot · · Score: 1

    It seems to be under the wheels of the Slashdot effect (volatile hyperlinking all-right); while the google cache carries the page, there's no way of getting the file.

    Thanks in advance.

    --
    Sailors. Oh man!
  145. I want One! by Moon_Princess · · Score: 1

    Someone send me an invite for Gmail cause I'm a cute girl and deserve one! :P

    1. Re:I want One! by Moon_Princess · · Score: 1

      haha usagichiba@hotmail.com that might be useful!

  146. I have 4 more invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    email me with complete name and email. First come, First serve while supplies last. antinio.solisNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com Remove the NOSPAM text

    1. Re:I have 4 more invites by Anteros · · Score: 1

      I got an invitation from you. Thank you very much!

  147. Gmail and spam.. by apophenia · · Score: 1

    Anyone else musing with the idea that gmail is about more than free webmail to the world? Maybe it is Google's shot at stopping spam...

    I know, i must be some google fanboy, but maybe i am.

    I'm just thinking that maybe the 'Report Spam' button saves to a central database. Once Gmail becomes very popular Google will have a very up to date list of the current spam and spammers.
    Essentially farming us Gmail users for spam addresses, IPs', and language patterns.

    They can then offfer out the constantly updated database as a (pay) service to anyone else.
    They seem to do well with sorting large amounts of data for relevance..

  148. What is google gaining from your personal life? by FLoWCTRL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google owns Orkut, Blogger.com, the largest search engine on the 'net, and is now offering free, high quality web-based email accounts with a gig of storage. Except for a few lone voices, I haven't seen any serious discussion about why this huge corporation is spending so much resources on providing these services for free.

    The advertising revenue couldn't possibly amount to a significant fraction of the costs involved with these services. The value must lie in the personal information that people are donating to Google, Inc.. What are their plans for it? They obviously plan to datamine it - but how will and how can it be used? What new knowledge can be generated by correlating and cross-referencing your orkut, blogger, gmail and google search information?

    It is troublesome that it seems to be popular and hip to be totally unconcerned about privacy. Attitudes like "we have none anyways" seem to prevail, and its funny to criticize those who voice some concern as tinfoil-hat-black-helicopter-seeing schitzos. It looks like people have forgotten that privacy matters. Like many other companies that try to collect personal information, Google's privacy policy is subject to change at any time. This makes it almost meaningless! It is effectively the same as saying, "We respect your privacy right at this moment, so have complete trust in us. Tomorrow we might change our minds."

    1. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read their SEC filings, then tell me they're not making any money on ads. There's also no shortage of "serious discussion" about the perceived harms of Google - if you've never seen GoogleWatch then you haven't been looking too hard.

      The complaints are garbage. Same old "oh no their cookie doesn't expire til 2038" bullshit. No idea why you people target Google when every other website shows ads too, has the same privacy policy, and has the same expiration date on their cookies. I guess you just like to be contrarian.

    2. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by PabloJones · · Score: 1

      Gimme a break. The more they know about you, the better they can target ads to you... plain and simple. Think about this: Google is planning an IPO in the near future, at which point they will be accountable to stockholders in one way or another. Sure, they could sell your personal information, and cash in all at once, but after that, consumers would lose trust in them, and the stockholders would bail out. Money talks and bullshit walks.

      Targeted ads would most definitely bring in a much higher revenue stream that those stupid "punch the monkey, win a prize" banner ads you see on low class websites...

      It's time to take off your tinfoil hat now.

    3. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by Tony-A · · Score: 1

      There are some fundamental differences between an old established business and fly-by-night operations.

      The advertising revenue couldn't possibly amount to a significant fraction of the costs involved with these services.
      Consider placing an ad in a context that Google selects versus placing an ad in a context that Hotmail selects versus placing an ad in some SPAM. I expect there would be a substantial premium for a Google ad. It's definitely more likely to produce positive results.

      Google has a reputation, which is a very valuable asset. Google is unlikely to jepordize this very valuable asset for pigeon feed.

      What are their plans for it? They obviously plan to datamine it - but how will and how can it be used?
      Why should they have "plans" for it. Most likely they just store it for when and if I have plans for it. (or some researchers 50-100 years after I'm dead;)

      In any event, I imagine the big money is in doing much the same thing in a large corporate environment. For that to work, it has to be very well shaken out first.

    4. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Sure, they could sell your personal information, and cash in all at once, but after that, consumers would lose trust in them

      How would the average user know? No-one reads the T&C. They can have buried in legal-speak that they will sell your information and most people won't ever know.

    5. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ad revenue bit IS interesting, given that for companies like Yahoo, mail isn't seen as a revenue driver, but as a traffic driver - people DON'T click much on ads when they're reading mail. Ad revenue from mail based services are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than for other services.

      Now Google has chosen a setup that gives them a much higher cost structure than their competition, even though they have no experience in operating large mail services (I have, and the needs of the storage system and access patterns are MILES apart from what they have experience with from the search engine) despite the fact ad revenue will be lower, and services that have a much higher ad revenue per page-view (like Yahoo, and MSN, which profit from the much more intrusive ads because it DOES lead to more clicks)...

      Combine that with a user interface that supposedly will be more effective (translation: people will spend less time looking at their mail, and hence less time looking at your ads), and it's going to be very interesting to see whether Google will manage to make money off of Gmail.

      Mail is a very different beast than search - when searching, people are looking for information and are happy to click at anything that looks like it fits. When using mail people are looking for their messages, and care little about anything else.

    6. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by kiwaiti · · Score: 1
      Google is unlikely to jepordize this very valuable asset for pigeon feed.

      Hmm, they might change their minds if they had to.

      Kiwaiti

      --
      Member of the Legion Of Microsoft Haters
    7. Re:What is google gaining from your personal life? by William+Tanksley · · Score: 1

      Pardon, but this is completely bogus.

      Except for a few lone voices, I haven't seen any serious discussion about why this huge corporation is spending so much resources on providing these services for free.

      So you haven't read Slashdot? Seriously, that's been the single biggest topic, here and in a number of other sites! Heck, it's so big a senator is trying to pass a law.

      The advertising revenue couldn't possibly amount to a significant fraction of the costs involved with these services. The value must lie in the personal information that people are donating to Google, Inc.

      This is insane. What do you think the personal information could be used for -- invasion? It's for advertising.

      It is troublesome that it seems to be popular and hip to be totally unconcerned about privacy.

      No, it's not -- it's popular and hip to be totally obsessed about a false model of privacy, one that believes that we have to protect, at all costs, good people from gaining information that bad people already have.

      The comment lists here are FULL of people wondering about "privacy" impacts of everything. Most of them are highly protective of privacy, to the extent that they guard things that are public knowledge anyhow.

      That's STUPID.

      Attitudes like "we have none anyways" seem to prevail,

      Not true. The correct attitude/analysis is that email is NOT PRIVATE, ever; and people who think GMail is threatening are simply not thinking about the way email works.

      We DO have privacy, and we should protect it. But we can't waste our efforts protecting something that isn't privacy. Unencrypted email CANNOT be made private. Webmail cannot be made private.

      and its funny to criticize those who voice some concern as tinfoil-hat-black-helicopter-seeing schitzos.

      No, it's simply the most tolerable way to deal with the incredible problems you people create. I know you don't wear tinfoil hats; but you DO hold entirely false beliefs which are easily and repeatedly shown to be false, and yet you amazingly keep posting. And then you spread your personal problems by making your hallucinations the subject of state laws.

      It looks like people have forgotten that privacy matters.

      Some have. Others, like yourself, don't seem to know what privacy means.

      Like many other companies that try to collect personal information, Google's privacy policy is subject to change at any time. This makes it almost meaningless! It is effectively the same as saying, "We respect your privacy right at this moment, so have complete trust in us. Tomorrow we might change our minds."

      Google is making money hand over fist for one simple reason: it's one of the few online companies that people trust. They make money from advertisers because the advertisers trust that Google will show their adverts to many willing eyeballs; people keep coming to look at the ads because they trust that Google will maintain the usefulness of their service.

      If Google betrays ANYONE, their uniqueness goes away; they become just another fly by night company. Once that happens, I'll encourage you to say the things you're saying now; I'll join you in shouting them from the rooftops. And every word we say will reduce Google's strength. It won't be just unfocussed worry; it'll be real.

      But it's not happenning now; it's utterly random and bizzare to punish a company for merely being able to do something it has promised not to do.

      -Billy

  149. Ah, the irony... by King+Babar · · Score: 1

    Here I am, a hardcore email user since...1986. I have sent more email to more people for a longer time than 99.9% of everybody, and I can't get a gmail invite inside of two months? Heck, I give one lecture per semester on the glories of Google. But what makes it extra-ironic is that I'm a psychology professor, and it now appears that my best chance to get an invite is to engage in unrewarded bar-press behavior until I get a lucky number. I should know better, but excuse me while I refresh this other page here a few thousand more times...

    --

    Babar

    1. Re:Ah, the irony... by King+Babar · · Score: 1
      and it now appears that my best chance to get an invite is to engage in unrewarded bar-press behavior until I get a lucky number. I should know better, but excuse me while I refresh this other page here a few thousand more times...

      Or, not. The refresh time on that site is now down to 5 seconds a pull, and the RNG is dishing out numbers up to 100,000. So the expectation would be to get a "hit" once every...hey, let's ask Google...ah, 5.78 days. I think I'll try a different technique.

      --

      Babar

  150. Obligatory Gmail whoring. by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on now, if you're going to grovel, be creative!

    There was a man without gmail
    Whose VAC could tell quite the tale
    his wife worked real hard
    to stack the punch cards
    but she died, and now he's in jail

    One gig, two gigs or three
    Gmail's the right size for me
    Don't be upset
    I read the usenet
    all archived, from 1903

    My Friendster, and his big gut
    has been reclusive somewhat
    Gmail requests
    he won't address
    I think that he moved to orkut

    I could be rich, without a doubt
    I found an unbeatable route
    this Nigerian guy
    wants a reply
    but I can't with my inbox maxed out

    My mailbox will always O flow
    inflators, fellators, you know
    I get lots of spam
    Thanks to my mam
    That woman named me Info

    Anyone have a spare invite for a clever guy?
    cgenman@pobox.com

    1. Re:Obligatory Gmail whoring. by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Thank you, John Laliberte, who provided a wonderful G-mail account for yours truly, and Jon, who offered a few hours later. Theirs are the path of true righteousness. I lie prostate in their aura.

      Or is it prostrate? I can't check right now, because Google doesn't seem to be responding.

      - C

    2. Re:Obligatory Gmail whoring. by kaiidth · · Score: 1
      You're absolutely right. Here: have a sonnet.

      Gmail, twixt bitter rivalry, alone
      attained the coveted one thousand megs
      Do not to the creation of my own
      Admit impediments. Answer only this:

      The thousand thousands of registered geeks
      leave few appealing logins to the late.
      Be not élite, but answer he who seeks
      with cheerful heart, though the rewards be few.

      Idle cravings, that in a slashdot post
      thy busy thoughts will all too soon ignore
      But, dear reader, I ask thee at the most
      a Gmail invite for myself - no more.

      No verse may order, but my thanks extend -
      my email address is giv'n at the end.


      kaiidth at NOSPAM altern [dot] org
  151. I won! by Nelsobra · · Score: 1

    http://gmailmachine.mmgn.com/ I won my account :p

    --
    http://nng.audiodragon.net
  152. SEND ME AN ACCOUNT COS I WUB JOO!!! ^^ by Samah · · Score: 1

    mln_samah@hotmail.com
    I hate hotmail :'(

    --
    Homonyms are fun!
    You're driving your car, but they're riding their bikes there.
  153. To the kind souls giving invites away... by gelsonjr · · Score: 1

    Hi, if any of you by any chance still have a gmail invite to spare you would make my day.. (seriously)

    1. Re:To the kind souls giving invites away... by gelsonjr · · Score: 1

      duh forgot my e-mail gcardosojr at yahoo dot com

  154. Re:MOD PARENT UP -- MODERATOR ABUSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too, not two. Dumb fucking sand nigger. Go blow yourself up. Unfortunately, your 72 virgins are all /.ers and male. (Redundancy alert...)

  155. Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by pilot1 · · Score: 1

    Some of us with Orkut accounts have been offered gmail accounts.
    If you want an Orkut account, reply with your email, and I'll invite you.

    1. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by e980238 · · Score: 1

      ill take one please. e980238NOSPAM@NOSPAMoptonline.net remove NOSPAM

    2. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'll try it

      adam1185 AT hotmail.com

    3. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Null-A · · Score: 1

      plz send me one to null_a@I_hate_hotmail.hotmail.com

      many thx

    4. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by tracid · · Score: 1

      tracid at iinet.net.au thank you

    5. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by rendler · · Score: 1

      moomoocow at iinet dot net dot au

      If you have any left. Thanks.

      --

      *shrug*
    6. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like an orkut account.

      nick AT creighton DOT edu

      thanks

    7. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Versix · · Score: 1

      dbrand at swin dot edu dot au

    8. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by excaliber19 · · Score: 1
      I wouldn't mind an Orkut one.

      admin(at)intheoryforum(dot)com

      Thanks, I really appreciate it!

    9. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by pilot1 · · Score: 1

      I just added all you guys. Good lucky.

    10. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd appreciate one as well.

      jshriver at csee.wvu.edu

    11. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure,

      kvan1 hotmail com

      Thanks

    12. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by cipher+uk · · Score: 1

      cypher@ntlworld.com hopefully you still looking back here pilot1 :)

    13. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by excaliber19 · · Score: 1

      Thanks! Looks fascinating!

    14. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by rohis · · Score: 1

      Please

      rohit_singh(at)yahoo(dot)com

    15. Re:Orkut invites anyone? Leads to gmail.. by jr748 · · Score: 1

      jr748 at yahoo dot com

      thanks.

  156. Gmail by Laivincolmo · · Score: 1

    Already, Yahoo has follow suit to compete with gmail by widening their mailboxes. 100MB isn't one gig, but it certainly gave me some space in my box. I think I'm beginning to agree that competition is best for the consumer... The numbers consume your soul. Oops! Did I just skip it by accident! Please save me and invite me at aldatur@yahoo.com Please. Really. I neeeeds it. My... precious...

  157. Resume Internet Beggery by ashkar · · Score: 1

    I am currently accepting gmail invites from any kind soul willing to donate. Donations accepted at nickpubSPAM@SPAMimap.cc minus SPAMs.

    Thanks

    1. Re:Resume Internet Beggery by UnnamedNewbie · · Score: 1

      Resuming the beggery...
      junkcatcher68@yahoo.com

  158. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  159. cookies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I like cookies! If you like cookies too then I think you are cool! can you invite me to join gmail ? thanks man, I'll send you some cookies. tech@vozip.net

  160. Re:cookies with Beer, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pr0n is better than Beer and better than cookies, pr0n is good 4 you but is not free as in free beer or free cookies.

  161. Buy this man a cookie by lorcha · · Score: 1
    At least someone around here was smart enough to figure it out. Posting my real email address to a public forum. Lemme think about that. Thinking... thinking...

    Yeah, really bad idea. Much spam would ensue.

    --
    "Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
  162. GEICO joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Jiggy-Fly, I have good news...

  163. Please send me an invite to Gmail please! by dethl · · Score: 1

    dethl@nmt.edu

    Thanks in advance!

    --
    "Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. What will you fight for? One day, you will see."
  164. I'd love an invite if anyone has a spare by NormanEinstein · · Score: 1

    My email is my slashdot username @yahoo.ca

  165. Request for a Gmail account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put in a request for a Gmail account over a month ago, but haven't heard back from Google yet.

    So, if anyone has an extra account, could you please send one my way?

    Terry Evans
    tevansNoSpam@sonici.com (remove the NoSpam obviously)

  166. Darn! I got 1338 on Gmail Machine... by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got 1338 on the Gmail Machine, and they gave me a HOTMAIL account! So close....!

  167. Sick Of Hearing About It by fire-eyes · · Score: 1

    Personally, and I doubt I'm alone here, I'm sick of it.

    Like a movie that's been so hyped up that I get pushed away by that alone, I don't give a fuck about gmail.

    Please create a gmail category or whatever so I can uncheck it, thanks.

    --
    -- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
  168. Gmail plead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any chance of anyone sending me an invite?

    gmail@geocen.com

    Thanks!

  169. gmail invite here by anotherone · · Score: 1
    clicking on this link will give you an invite. It's good for one only. GO!

    Gmail Invite

    --
    Username taken, please choose another one.
    1. Re:gmail invite here by AyeFly · · Score: 1

      Thanks anotherone!

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      Sig- http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?ayefly
    2. Re:gmail invite here by Anath · · Score: 1

      Pretty interesting stuff..

      How about a Gmail invite generator? Probably do-able if folks post there (used) gmail invite URL.

      ie, the parent post was a-621ffb71a8-f9a9e31f19, which is obviously hex 10-421443367336-1072297090841, If people post a few more we can figure out how they are generating them, and it's a simple process to make a keygen from there.

      --
      The earth is 98% full, please delete anyone you can!
    3. Re:gmail invite here by Anath · · Score: 1

      cool, now I have

      a-621ffb71a8-f9a9e31f19
      a-85794dc1de-8f8d0fd4ab

      --
      The earth is 98% full, please delete anyone you can!
    4. Re:gmail invite here by anotherone · · Score: 1

      The way that most of these things work is they generate the numbers at random and then store it in a database. If you enter a number that's not in the database then you don't get anything. Good luck randomly picking a 28 digit number that works... you'll be incredibly lucky if you get ONE before open registration starts.

      --
      Username taken, please choose another one.
  170. Gmail's spam problem by tcoady · · Score: 2, Interesting
    When responding to mail, gmail inserts not only the name but also the email address of the person you are answering. Although the same happens in brain dead applications like outlook, I think most smart clients suppress this information by default since it allows spam harvesters to easily collect addresses from archives of mailing lists.

    I have alerted the gmail team to this and they say they are working on it, but they can't fix it soon enough for me as I occasionally forget to delete this gmail generated text from my replies.

  171. I won! by Isando · · Score: 1

    Im glad I saw that GMail Machine thing. I went there and reloaded about a hundred times and then I won! I thought I might miss it but when you win it tells you you won in bright yellow lettering. I never win anything. Now I wish it was money. DOH!

  172. MP3 Player for GMail Account by CaptainTux · · Score: 3, Funny
    I have a few GMail invites laying around and would like to trade one of them for an MP3 player. Doesn't have to be an IPod but just one with decent storage space and easy to use. Email me if interested.

    Anthony

    --
    Anthony Papillion
    Advanced Data Concepts, Inc.
    "Quality Custom Software and IT Services"
    1. Re:MP3 Player for GMail Account by geek · · Score: 1

      You can get a gmail account on ebay for 30 cents, I don't see why anyone would give you an MP3 player. Just contribute to the community man, spread the love. I'd love to have an invite but I won't pay for an account that will one day be free. If you feel generous, send one to me at todd AT iamblue dot net. It would be very gracious of you.

      -todd

  173. Anything google does, We can do better by dinodriver · · Score: 1

    Why do people keep hyping the features of google? We can do all of that stuff on our computers for free with little security/privacy concerns.

    I use OSX's mail ap to get all my mail from however many accounts, including my yahoo accounts. I can then search message content, from, subject whatever. Forever. On the privacy of my own machine. And since I have about 150gigs of free space at the moment, 1gig from google isn't a selling point.

    When not on my own machine, I can use my isp provided webmail aps to view mail. But now that wireless access is so pervasive, many of us just carry our own computers with us wherever we go anyway. Gone are the days of dropping into a library when on the road to use their machines to check email: now we just flip open our laptops at the library and download our own. Webmail is just not necessary anymore. Wireless is killing the need for browser based aps like calendars, mail, and even banking info (just use quicken to download from all your accounts and view it one single ap instead of going to a bunch of webpages to see all your stuff).

  174. Don't refresh too fast . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the first 3 minutes of the Gmail Machine, I won. I was so excited I couldn't help but hit refresh again. Needless to stay that stop button went smashing down, and whenevr I tried to enter my address in for my winning little piece of hapiness, I had a "File Not Found" message. Two hours later and a hand that doesn't work anymore, I haven't hit it again.

    1. Re:Don't refresh too fast . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sucks man. I've been playing for about 2.5 hours now and no luck.. was wondering if you could "Go Back" in case of hitting reload again.

      To tempting to just pound the reload, but have to take time and not over do it.. thanks for the tip..

  175. hack 4 pussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add that to your userContent.css (works with Safari too):

    #ad {
    visibility: hidden ! important
    }

    Thank you, have a nice day.

    1. Re:hack 4 pussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tried with Safari and that doesn't seem to work...

  176. Re:Not going to accept or send email to/from Gmail by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
    I dont know about you folks out there, but Gmail seems to have hit us here like a tsunami. Within three days, more than 60% of the contacts in my MSN Messenger list have Gmail accounts, and all of them, without exception, have converted them to their primary email accounts.

    Fact is, despite all concerns, Gmail *is* becoming wildly popular. Things are going at such a rate here that if anyone is deluded enough to not accept any email from a Gmail account, he's basically banishing himself from email in general.

  177. /joke by bmantz65 · · Score: 1

    Will exchange launch codes for invite. Inquire within.

  178. Rediffmail.com as well. by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
  179. POP Goes the GMail and others by terranlune · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anyone actually tried the utilities listed in the original post? The lack of import and export options from gmail is a real limiting factor (I already have a lot of mail I'd like to search). What happens if/when google goes under? How do we extract our gigabyte? These utilities look very promising, but slashdotter stress-testing seems in order...

  180. Cannot access Gmail by mvdorpe · · Score: 1

    I was invited for a Gmail account yesterday, and it worked fine. Today, I cannot access Gmail anymore! It says 'Oops, unable to perform the requested operation, try again' or 'document contains no data'. I'm using Firefox 0.9 and I checked the 'don't ask my password for two weeks' option. I even tried with MSIE, didn't help. (By the way, although I haven't used MSIE for months, it somehow managed to get infected, I got popups from the moment I left the Control Panel and made it an IE window!) I guess it's still beta... (Gmail, not IE ;-))

    1. Re:Cannot access Gmail by mvdorpe · · Score: 1

      problem solved... no error messages anymore

  181. My New Competition by mariposa622 · · Score: 1

    I will graciously accept an invitation for a Gmail account from The first person to guess the color of my garage door or if they guess correctly whether or not I even have a garage.

  182. Opera not GMail compatible by BrodeCo · · Score: 1
    1. The GMail team says that the Full GMail (whenever that comes) will not be Opera compatible, but
    2. GMail Beta has limited functionality in Opera
    3. Firefox is better than Opera (I actually upgraded after getting my GMail invite... it's everything Opera is, with lower RAM hogging and smarter tabs. The different search extensions kick Opera's hinder. Thunderbird (seperate but integrated mail client) is nicer than M2 (not that I use my other email accounts any more)
    Believe me, I thought I was a diehard Opera user until I started with Firefox. All of my bookmarks imported automagically. It's faster, free, and no Opera ad banner needs to be ignored/cracked.
    1. Re:Opera not GMail compatible by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

      Ah, but I was reading comments here suggesting that GMail wasnt Firefox compatible either! :-) Or is it?

    2. Re:Opera not GMail compatible by BrodeCo · · Score: 1

      GMail is Mozilla Firefox (also known as Halliburton Superchimp) compatible, and vice versa. (the link mentions macs, but all versions work) I use the 0.9 release in winxp-- and it kicks ass. Just found a mouse gestures extension (plug-in) that ensures I'll never need Opera again. It's a nice browser and all of that, but eats up RAM & CPU exponentially depending on the number of tabs open-- haven't had that issue with Firefox (or Kafkaesqueunicorn, if you prefer) yet.

  183. Me, too by Lurkingrue · · Score: 1

    Although I took more like 40 tries, I still hit pretty quickly.

    And I, too, still haven't gotten a code... Hoax?

  184. Re:Gmail- no IMAP by adpowers · · Score: 1

    Do you think Google will make a Gmail app just like they did with their search engine? That would be pretty neat. Maybe combine it with their search appliance. You plug this device into the corporate network, configure, and then all your users can enjoy Google seaching the intranet and have a nice webmail client with the same excellent searching.

    Who knows, just a thought.

    Andrew

  185. jackass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yess, you go do that -- and leave everyone else alone. Moron.

  186. ANOTHER ONE! HAVE FUN!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-85794dc1de-3703b33 3ff

    This message will self-destruct in 3.2 seconds.

  187. LAST CHANCE! ONE MORE INVITE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-85794dc1de-edd5265 aeb

    First in best dressed.

    1. Re:LAST CHANCE! ONE MORE INVITE!! by The+Uninformed · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the invite

    2. Re:LAST CHANCE! ONE MORE INVITE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was typing in my details on that... you must've typed yours faster... grr :/

  188. did you restart safari? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    works fine for me

    1. Re:did you restart safari? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I did. All I have in the .css file is the forementioned.... do I need anything else?

    2. Re:did you restart safari? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to add that file through the preferences of course.

      Prefs> Advanced> Style Sheet

      works fine with v1.2.2

  189. Life sucks. by jhobbs · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I'm going to cry. I was trying the Gmail Machine lotto. . . I was hitting refresh so fast all I saw was a blink of a page with a big yellow font that said "Winner!" with a text entry box below it. Then 1/5 of a second later, I tapped my touch pad and the page refreshed. I think I need a moment of reflection.

  190. userContent.css by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    also check this out:

    http://www.floppymoose.com/

  191. Well that's utter bullshit... by sp0rk173 · · Score: 1

    Just becuase you HAVE a hotmail account doesn't mean you USE it. All my personal e-mail goes to my own mailserver under my desk. The 7 or so hotmail accounts are just spam-catchers. Mmmmm...3 years virtually spam free.

    Any why the hell would I let the fucktards on slashdot know my real e-mail address?

  192. GMail Invites: I've got a bunch by valmont · · Score: 2, Informative

    hey all, i keep getting new invites on a fairly regular basis, if you just head-on over to my blog, find the "GMail Invites" post and add a comment with some info as to why u want a gmail account and a valid email address (feel free to use creative obfuscation to protect yourselves from spam crawler bots).

    I can't guarantee you an invite but your chances should be pretty good. I'll favor in that order (mostly), people who have a blog on blogger.com, people who have at least bothered to register with blogger.com to place comments, people I've marked as /. friends, people who've marked me as their friend, unless i change my mind :)

  193. Gmail is spam by Propaganda13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Advertising in my inbox that I didn't ask for is Spam.

    I find it funny that Google (and webmail in general) has gotten people to accept this as normal.

    Ads relating to what I'm searching for is one thing. Ads relating to what my friend is telling me about is another.

  194. Might as well by excaliber19 · · Score: 1

    Can't hurt, well, it could.. *imagines volumes of emails flooding in pertaining to viagra and other related drugs* Oh well. admin(at)intheoryforum(dot)com

    1. Re:Might as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okeyly dokely! :-)

  195. Re:I have 8 invites left by excaliber19 · · Score: 1
    Same

    admin(at)intheoryforum(dot)com

    Thanks! :)

  196. Google Social Networking by Sunspire · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google is giving out GMail invites like candy at the moment, you can get anywhere from 3-10 invites every other day or so (at least I do). Of course every invite you use is recorded, since it adds the inviters address to the invitees contact list automatically. With this by-invitation-only strategy they've managed to drum up an amazing amount of hype and discussion on blogs, mailing lists and message boards all over the net. Of course it also helps that GMail, in it's true Google-like fashion, is pretty damn good. That means there's a high demand for it, it's the latest in-thing and you don't want to be left out.

    So, with everyone inviting their friends, who in turn invite their friends and so on, Google is sitting on a gold-mine that would make any data-miner drool. They've probably got the biggest social networking dataset ever compiled right now. I'm just thankful it's Google and not Hotmail or Yahoo. As someone else already said, the 1GB storage is just a gimmick, it's the Google brand that matters.

    --
    It's like deja vu all over again.
    1. Re:Google Social Networking by excaliber19 · · Score: 1
      Pure genious, eh? Infact, they can keep this up for a loooong time without ever going "public". Eventually the mass majority of people will have gotten an invite, so going "public" isnt quite as needed.

      Then again, going "public" can be quite an event in of itself, which I'm sure is what they are hoping for. This invitation thing just makes it seem "elite", so that people want it more. Beautiful.

      Mind sharing a GMail? Eh? :) admin(at)intheoryforum(dot)com

  197. I use my Gmail for 419 scambaiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's very, very efficient, by the way. You can give a text label so that you can flag recipients under a certain label (usually, 419 scammers involve another fictitious character, for instance, a lawyer). You can set a filter to set all incoming e-mail under that label.

    What it doesn't do - or maybe I just can't figure it out yet - is set all existing e-mail to the set rules (filters).

    Because they put all your labels in a convenient location, you're always looking at the same list of, say, 20 scambaits. It even tells you if there's new mail under that label.

    Gmail is a revolution for 419 scambaiting, thanks to its mail management features.

  198. Re:Okay, so when's the GMail middleman getting her by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

    So, in order to prevent company A from storing and potentially reading your e-mail, you're opting to let company B store it instead? What's to keep company B from reading the messages it has stored? And what's to keep company B from being ordered to hand over all the messages it has stored to some government agency?

    Riddle me this, and riddle me that, who's being a big dumb asshat?

    --
    We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
  199. Get a clue by Donny+Smith · · Score: 2, Informative

    >For those who still think email is secure I got news for you: Your email is already exposed in plain text on just about any server it is sent to.

    So what - I don't care about any single email being exposed to someone's eyes. But I do worry if someone has access to ALL of my email all the time - I even wouldn't care if they would read it, but I do not like to be analyzed and profiled via content of my email.

    >No human will ever read your email.

    This is really a stupid argument - OF COURSE they won't because they can't possibly get enough humans to read gazillons of messages in millions of accounts!
    It is impossible, it'd be too expensive and it wouldn't work because humans can't analyze huge amounts of data.

    When will people realize that it is FAR WORSE that AI bots "read" (analyze, parse, whatever) your email because:
    a) they don't "forget"
    b) they can easily "read" all emails of all accounts
    c) it is cost effective (essentially free) to use them for any and all purpose they see fit.

    I'm not claiming they are doing bad things with it, but they certainly have all the tools they need.
    So those who mind would probably prefer to keep their email on less creepy a place (one that doesn't analyze your contacts, URLs in your email and content of your messages to show you ads and whatnot).

    1. Re:Get a clue by William+Tanksley · · Score: 1

      So what - I don't care about any single email being exposed to someone's eyes. But I do worry if someone has access to ALL of my email all the time - I even wouldn't care if they would read it, but I do not like to be analyzed and profiled via content of my email.

      This is his point -- almost anyone who wants can have all this and more. You're trying to block Google from it simply because they're the first company that has publicly admitted that it's possible and useful, and offerred promises about how they're going to use it for Good and not EEEvile.

      I'd rather leave Google alone, and go after the companies that have the same ability, but don't admit it.

      When will people realize that it is FAR WORSE that AI bots "read" (analyze, parse, whatever) your email because:
      a) they don't "forget"


      This is the only important point in what you said. People don't forget; bots are safe precisely because they DO forget. The big reassurance Google is trying to send is the promise that their bots WILL forget; they will store NO information, but will instead scan each message every time it's displayed to associate an ad with it (and the association will be lost after the ad's served).

      And think about it -- why would they do anything else? They'd lose money if they served the same ad every time they displayed a given email; they make money if they serve a fresh ad.

      -Billy

  200. Re:Okay, so when's the GMail middleman getting her by ender- · · Score: 1

    In all honesty, if you have something that you don't want read by anyone, and don't want stored for eternity, then you probably shouldn't be emailing it at all.

    Ender

    PS. If you like this post and have a gmail invite, I'm still begging for one! ender|{at}|fearthepenguin|{dot}|net

  201. Re:I have 8 invites left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have some invite left think about me:

    oupsmail@bonbon.net

    Thanks

  202. Less than 10MB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In practise, ie. always, the allowed attachment size is much smaller than 10MB. 10MB is the limit to the size of the outgoing mail - ie. the size of the attachment AND the text after the attachment has been uuencoded or whatever is used.

  203. IPO lockdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are in pre-IPO lockdown. Anyone on the inside or knows inside details CANNOT comment until after the IPO is finished.

    So if we want an interview with the google people, which I think is a GREAT idea, we have to wait 'till after the IPO.

  204. Any Spare GMail Invitations ? by Crypto1969FLA · · Score: 1

    I would love to get one if possible :-) Crypto1969@Comcast.Net "I Fear not SPAM, for I wear SPAM resistant underpants!"

    --
    ERROR ERROR Sig too long Sig will now END.
  205. I don't think you can call anyone a netd0rk... by Etone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... if you are posting stories to /.

    Fuck you and your unwanted editorial.

    -e-

  206. +5, informative!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those who still think email is secure I got news for you: Your email is already exposed in plain text on just about any server it is sent to.
    Mod up! This is an eye-opener! Thanks to this guy, I have discovered that encryption, in fact, DOES NOT EXIST!

  207. Another limerick. by Linuxathome · · Score: 1

    Try this one on for size:

    I've come to the resolve I've been beat
    Looking for the simple word 1337
    Don't think this one rhymes?
    Try substituting minds
    You have to be in the mode of geek speak

    Please, if you give the parent poster an invite for his creativeness, can you consider me as well? Okay okay, I should have done something other than a limerick, but what can you do when you're pressed for time? You can contact me at gmailme at linuxathome com

  208. Gmail invite for intelligent John Kerry supporter by MaineGuy · · Score: 1

    John Kerry supporters, here's your chance:

    I'll give one Gmail invite to the person who provides 10 valid reasons why John Kerry should be president.

    Here are my rules:
    * Reasons must be pro-Kerry, not anti-Bush. Tell me about Kerry's policy proposals or legislative record that will help this country. Don't bash Bush, his administration, or his policies. This is your chance to state why Kerry should get the job, not why Bush shouldn't have it.
    * Just the facts, please.
    * If relying on statistics, back 'em up. Please link to your source, and make sure your source is reputable.
    * I define "valid" reasons.
    * When I find the post with 10 valid reasons, I'll reply to that post, and request an email from the /.er. I'll then suspend the Gmail offer (unless I've been awarded more invites in the meantime).

    This isn't meant to start a Bush v. Kerry flame war; all I want is for a Kerry supporter to actually promote Kerry's policies, not criticize Bush's. I figure a Gmail invite might encourage some smart readers to participate in a respectful discourse. My apologies for taking the Gmail discussion off-topic.

  209. Gmailmachine results by Jahf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wrote a 2 minute script (perl and wget are our friends) and let it run overnight. Their server started out really speedy, then started getting laggy so I shortened wget's timeout to 60 seconds (900 seconds? please :)

    During this run the chances went from 30,000:1 to 50,000:1 to 100,000:1 :)

    Results ... over approximately 10 hours the script iterated just under 30,000 times before getting an invite, which averaged out 50 hits per minute for me. If you assume most of the heavy hitters had a similar script (maybe, maybe not) running for the same time period where the server got 20,000,000 hits, that means 666 scripters ;)

    NOTE: I made my script relatively friendly ... only 1 process at a time, it gave the server a minute to respond, and it slept for 1 second between requests. No forked processes, no running as fast as it can. Did I defeat the "feel" of the process, sure, but someone had to be expecting it because there was nothing in the HTML that made this at all difficult. This means I would guess I could have gotten closer to 1 hit per second if I'd -tried- but there didn't seem like much point.

    I want to give a HEARTY congratulations for having a server with a dynamic page that took the load like a champ. No images had to help, but it was still pumping out >5K per request at 550-600 requests per second. Not an amazing feat technically, just good planning, but appreciated. I was quite surprised to see it had made it through the night (my invite came @ 8:30am, almost exactly when I woke to the thought of "hey, wonder if I got an invite?", maybe I accidentally invoked Telepathy::Broadcast).

    And before someone goes "why did you waste your time for a freakin Gmail account", I spent 5 * the time needed to write the script to write this post ... it is /. where my behavior is unexplainable :)

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    It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
  210. Re:I have 8 invites left by laard · · Score: 1

    Kellen Flott
    klf@flottfamily.com

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    --- If we knew half the things we shouldn't we'd stop wishing we knew it all
  211. any gmail invites left? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can anyone send me a gmail invite?

    pagal@asia.com

  212. A Gmail on your own by jesgar · · Score: 0

    Do you know how an individual with a 1Gb server space could develope its own personal 1Gb web mail?

  213. Will swap my r00t password... by uberfrench · · Score: 1

    for a gmail invitation(I'm tired of chocolate). navyb1ue2002@yahoo.com, thank you

  214. Re:Gmail invite for intelligent John Kerry support by Brakz0rz · · Score: 1

    1. On the Environment: Kerry has a 96% lifetime rating from the League of Conservation Voters based on his congressional voting record.
    2. On Civil Rights: The NAACP and the Human Rights Campaign gave Kerry a 100% rating.
    3. On Education: For the past 8 years, John Kerry has received a 100% rating from the National Education Association.
    4. On a Woman's Right to Choose: Planned Parenthood and NARAL gave Kerry a 100% rating.
    5. On Labor Rights: The AFL-CIO has given John Kerry a 91% lifetime rating, including a 100% rating in 2003.
    6. On Animal Rights: The Humane Society and Fund for Animals reports that Kerry supported eight out of the nine most recent bills promoting animal welfare.
    7. Kerry has a long record of public service to this country. He has extensive experience in both domestic and international affairs. He worked as a prosecutor for one of the country's largest counties, served as Lieutenant Governor for two years, and has served as a U.S. Senator since 1984. As Senator, he has served for 18 years on the Foreign Relations Committee, 6 years on the Intelligence Committee, and is the Ranking Democrat on the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee.
    8. Kerry's "100 Days to Change America" plan, outlining what he will focus on in his first 100 days in office, is great.
    9. Teresa Heinz-Kerry will also be a real asset to this country. She has been deeply involved with a number of progressive issues including the environment, children, women's issues, and health care and wellness. She has been an outspoken advocate for human rights and a strong supporter of the arts.
    10. Kerry supports:
    * Aggressively promoting conservation, renewable energy sources, and increased energy efficiency to reduce both global warming emissions and our dependence on foreign oil
    * Reducing toxics in our communities
    * Reinvigorating the Superfund cleanup program
    * Improving our parks and protecting our public lands
    * Protecting low income communities from environmental hazards
    * Strengthening and enforcing our Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act
    * Addressing global warming emissions through a combination of innovative programs that will drive technology change and create jobs
    * Addressing the exploitation of marine resources around the globe
    * Addressing the growing crisis of fresh water shortages around the globe
    * Reducing traffic congestion and sprawl
    * Strong job creation including creating 500,000 jobs by investing in renewable energy sources, such as ethanol, solar, and wind
    * Rejoining the international community
    * Programs that promote democracy and respect for human rights
    * Comprehensive election reform
    * Arms control and non-proliferation measures
    * Defining a global security strategy on terrorism that is "collective, not imperial, inclusive not exclusive, and cooperative not unilateralist"
    * Rolling back Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and re-investing in education and healthcare.
    * Expanding health care coverage to nearly 95 percent of Americans &#150; including nearly all children
    * Assuring high quality health care by including a strong enforceable patients' bill of rights, reducing medical errors, and ensuring safe staffing levels for nurses
    * Protecting Medicare and Social Security
    * Fully funding our public education system
    * Creating programs to increase access to a college education for more Americans
    * Providing services to children such as Head Start and child care
    * Improving child abuse prevention and treatment programs
    * Expanding our nation's hate crime law
    * The Employment Nondiscrimination Act
    * Affirmative Action
    * The Equal Rights Amendment
    * Closing the pay gap between men and women
    * Title IX
    * Protecting workers' rights to organize and join a union
    * Raising the minimum wage and indexing it to inflation
    * Improving workplace health and safety
    * Ending the practice of racial profiling
    * Creating immigration policies that are fair and safe
    * The Americans wit

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    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot
  215. Invalid by Lurkingrue · · Score: 1

    Despite your post, there's nothing invalid or wrong with making a choice based on the "lesser of two evils" concept. I suspect that many of Kerry's votes will come from people choosing to pick the "not-so-great" option over the "really-really-terribly-horribly-bad" option... And that's OK.

  216. Here's what WINNING SCREEN looks like by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here's what a winning screen looks like on the Gmail Machine!

    I got mine on the 3rd try, but I figure seeing the text of the screen will help you boys and girls that are trying to write SCRIPTS automatically keep trying the Gmail Machine!

    And no, you're not getting my new gmail address! I want to keep it spam free.

    1. Re:Here's what WINNING SCREEN looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint for SCRIPT WRITERS! Look for the [FORM] tag!

  217. Just a suggestion to donors... by febuiles · · Score: 0

    People who are requesting for e-mails to send invites should follow neverkevin's example and post the links in your journals, better and no spam.

  218. get a life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, modding me offtopic the day after i make the comment? jesus man, get a fucking life

  219. Little late but... I wrote a program for GMail by RabidSquirrel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For those of you who are interested. It's called G-Mailto.

    It is really simple. It associates mailto: html links with GMail. So when you see a link like this on the web:

    rabidsquirrel21@hotmail.com

    You can click it and have the GMail compose window open up instead of something like Outlook Express that doesn't work with GMail. If you are not logged in to GMail it will bring you to the login screen and then redirect you to the Compose Page.

    I'm using it right now on my Windows XP machine and it works perfectly. Supposedly works fine on Win9x/ME as well.

    It's free, open-source, comes with an installer/uninstaller, and you can always switch back and forth between using it from your control panel. Under Internet Options > Programs Tab > Email. After you install G-Mailto, it will be in that list along with any other mail program you use.

    Anyway, if you're interested, I put it up on my site:
    http://www.rabidsquirrel.net/G-Mailto

  220. Automated gmailmachine script by halightw · · Score: 1

    Here's my script for continuously refreshing the page and watching for 1337 in the results. No guarantee this will work at all since I don't know what is actually required when you get the winning page. I just dump the winning html into a file and hopefully it can be used to claim the prize somehow. As of sometime today I don't seem to be able to access gmailmachine at all anymore, either I'm blacklisted for running this script or the site is down.
    -------------------
    #!/usr/bin/perl
    while ($found eq () ) {
    $count++;
    print ("Reloading gmailmachine $count ... ");
    @out = qx/w3m -cookie -dump_source http:\/\/gmailmachine.mmgn.com/;
    foreach (@out) {
    if (/font-size: 58px;\">(\d+)/) {
    print $1,"\n";
    if ($1 eq "1337") {
    $found=1;
    open(OUTFILE, ">results.html") || print ("error: could not open results file\n");
    print OUTFILE @out;
    close(OUTFILE);
    print @out;
    }}}}

  221. Probably even cheaper elsewhere... by acb · · Score: 1

    ...given how in Australia they have to use special hard disks which spin the opposite way around because of the Coriolis effect.

  222. Re:Gmail invite for intelligent John Kerry support by MaineGuy · · Score: 1

    Good job, BrakzOrz, please drop me a line at starbird at gmail dot com and I'll hook you up. I disagree with nearly everything you wrote, but I appreciate the effort!

  223. Usermail's antispam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what's their spam filtering like?


    They use SpamCop. I simply don't see spam (granted, I don't splatter my @-address all around nonetheless). Occasionally a new spamming technique is introduced and a couple leak through. The last spam I got was a couple months ago; someone broke the Hotmail Turing test & I got a spam from RANDOMLETTERS@hotmail.com. They have a web page to blacklist keywords & addresses in addition to that but I have never bothered. As far as I know they don't have a way to look at your deleted spam and check for false positives, but I don't think that has ever happened to me.


    The webmail client is Squirrel Mail and is nicely configurable. I didn't mention before, you can do SMTP after POP; but the time window is only a couple minutes and it doesn't work at all from China (I guess they have China blacklisted for that feature...I had to send through the webmail on my little Psion when I was there.) Oh, and they have a vacation auto-responder (for those who don't impulsively check email from wherever they are).

    1. Re:Usermail's antispam by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      Arrgh, didn't log in...The AC post describing Usermail's antispam features (basically I get maybe one spam every couple months so I don't have to worry about it), that was me.

    2. Re:Usermail's antispam by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      So it's the same client (Freeshell also uses SquirrelMail for webmail, but they also offer Pine if you use the shell account).

      Seeing as they DON'T check for false positives, I'm afraid of the same problem I've got with SoftHome. I'd rather have no server-side filtering at all, and do it all on my computer.

    3. Re:Usermail's antispam by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      Well, server side filtering has the advantage of knowing the sender's IP and querying SPF, saves from sucking a ton of spam across a modem link, and is the only option for webmail. So for me it's a must-have.

      Having said that, I think the ideal is some tweakability on server-side filtering. Even a selection box with 0% (no filtering) to 100% (most aggressive filtering but with risk of false positives) would help. If you, for example, expect mail from people who run their own SMTP on a DSL connection, you can choose a lower setting (just enough to keep webmail useable) and rely on client side filtering to weed out the rest while whitelisting your address book. If, like me, you get mail from fairly predictable sources, you can choose a higher setting.

  224. Re:I have 8 invites left by Mixu78 · · Score: 1

    I could use one... mixu78 @ jippii . fi

  225. I would like to a have an invite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to have an invite too.
    bassfreak@spymac.com

    Thanks in advance

  226. I would like to a have an invite by bassfreak · · Score: 1

    I would like an invite too. bassfreak@spymac.com Thanks in advance.

  227. Gmailmachine was a Hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, this guy claims that his gmail account was hacked therefore couldn't send out invites.

    Then it was pointed out that he should get an email of the new password and he sent an update stating that there was massive cheating (what did you expect people to cycle through 100,000 web pages):

    UPDATE: Because of the massive ammount of cheating as of recent (over 40 people) gmail machine will have to close its doors for longer then expected, I hope to come back with a much more secure site. Because of the massive ammount of cheating that has occured since the update to the new gmail machine I will be unable to send codes out to anyone who has won after the site update. I am extremly sorry to those of you who won fare and square, but I will not risk giving codes to people who cheated to win, or let their friends win thru their cheating ways. Please note, gmail machine will return, but in the meantime thanks for the support.

    Take a nap well we move the site over to a new server and recode some things to increase security.

    This guy ultimitley didn't have but a handful of invites and was overwhelmed. He couldn't let everyone know this because the spotlight was on him.