You saw a 20 second clip on what you call a comedy show. Nuff said.
I saw the person who typed the memo say that she typed the memo. That is enough said. Where I saw it is irrelevant . The only reason you harp on it is because your case can't stand up to it so you pull some moronic shit like that to make it seem like you discredited basic simple facts. Sorry it don't work like that.
Again Homosexuality is a choice. You may not like to hear it but it is true. I can also point to a ton of evidence supporting this. It is abnormal behaviour.
Were it true, you would be able to point to evidence thereof, but it isn't and you can't. That's what happens when you base your positions on ignorant hatred rather than facts.
It certainly is not abnormal behavior. It exists in every culture, country and religion throughout history and in most higher animal species.
The fact that you are an ignorant bigot who bases his decisions on hatred shows how little you actually know about your own fucking religion. At least the religion you claim to follow. You are not a Christian. You spit in the face of Jesus' words with your ignorant hatred.
Does that mean that homosexuals should not have freedoms? I did not say that.
No, you said certain freedoms should not be allowefd to them because of how your god made them. You only claim it's a choice because you can use that to justify your hate-based legislation. You have no proof, hell there is no reason to believe that except so you can use it to justify hatred. Yeah, you're really a Christian. You're not even a decent American with sickening attitudes like that.
Druge developed by the Government. Again, you are dead wrong. Being somewhat invloved in this industry I can say without fact that the government has had little to do with ANY major medical breakthrough in resent years.
Bullshit. You have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about.
The advertising exceeds their R&D. Well I guess you can just make facts up now.
Nope. That's an actual fact. Try looking something up for once rather than spouting Fox's lies.
Once they were allowed to advertize on TV, their ad budgets went through the roof to the point that they now exceed their R&D budget.
Given that *basic* research is done almost entirely through government funding, this isn't surprising. At least if you know anything about the industry.
I am a fan of letting the free market work on drugs. Just keep the government out of it. If you feel this way then you are against Kerry's view on this. You can try to spin this in to his favor, but he is for socialized meds.
No you aren't. You support Bush who pushed to illegalize letting the market work.
Medicare can't bargain with the drug companies? A little thing called economy of scale lowers prices, and bulk discounts are a huge part of the market. This is now illegal. You do not support the market. Nice try. Say it all you want, but it's still a lie. That is corporate welfare, and it is fascist.
Now as for Religion/morals and government. I will turn the question around to you. Point me to a government that does not use morality to govern and is not headed tward or in chaos. That is correct NONE.
Certainly, but religion and morality are two different things.
You didn't turn anything around. You were asked to demonstrate an example of a religious government that any decent person would want to live under and you failed. Yet you still want to drag America down to that pit of hell.
Humanist morality is what founded this country and what has made it great.
Christian morals would do ok if what Jesus actually taught were used, rather than the hypocritical hate used by the sick wackos, like yourself, who claim to follow him, but just use it to rationalize their ignorant petty little hatreds.
Would you hire a security company whose office broke down after 500,000 people started throwing rocks at it ?
No. Because they would have to charge higher rates to replace their building. Also, they might have lost some of their best people and information when their building collapsed. Besides which, if that many people hated them that much, who knows what they might do to the companies clients.
1. One show talks about polictial issues from a concervative side and a liberal side.
No it doesn't. All it does is shout Democrat and Republican talking points which are largely lies designed to inflame the watchers against the other side. You clearly are the target audience since you repeat these same lies as if they had any basis in fact.
If Bush was attacked the same as Clinton. You and I see it way differenlty here.
Of course we do. I see that the Republican party launched a multi million dollar (of our money) campaign to dig up any dirt on Clinton that was possible. They failed for years to find anything, and so they finally found a blowjob.
Now, a gentleman would be expected to lie about that. (Not that I'm claiming that was Clinton's rationale.). It destroyed the integrity of our judicial process that that was even asked in a court. Whether or not his dick was sucked is irrelevant to anything except the Springeresque segment of our population who just want a cheap thrill. It lowered our courts, it lowered our congress.
Now, was it wrong to lie nonetheless? Yes.
What was the effect of his lie on the world? Zero. It was a fucking blowjob.
Bush acted on his intellegence at that time. Was that intelligence correct?
No it was not correct. Yes, he knew that for a fact. Forged documents. Plagiarized grad school papers that were mere speculation. "irrefutable facts" that the CIA told them not to run with since they were wrong.
10s of thousands of people dead on one hand. A blowjob on the other.
It's really sad that sick people like you have so perverted the religion that they claim to follow. You are against abortion, yet you support lies that kill thousands. You clearly don't give a flying fuck about the sanctity of life, so I have to assume that your abortion stance is all about controlling other people's lives. What else could it possibly be? If you cared about life, then you would not support Bush. You would not say that one blowjob=10s of thousands of deaths.
They were both lies, yet the effect was drastically different.
Again, this involves some morality and is difficult to explain to a secularist.
I have a great deal of morality. It just happens that my morality is consistent and doesn't change based on hatred.
To a Catholic, no matter what location you live in you have your beliefs.
This is true, however it isn't what you are saying. You are saying that everybody must have exactly the same exact beliefs to the letter as the ones the Catholic Church is claiming today. They have changed over time and they are often inconsistent.
The fact is that the Catholic Church took an active role in raping children and covering it up. So if you don't support this, you can't be a Catholic is what you are flat out saying.
Sorry, but it's either absolute or it isn't. If it is absolute, then child rape=good follows. If it is not absolute, then your argument falls apart.
but the U.S. laws are based off of some morality. That morality was founded in a Jewish, Christian belief.
False. They were based off of humanistic morality which is far more consistent and moral than Judeo Christian beliefs.
Now, you are living under the sick delusion that being gay is immoral. If you actually knew what the bible said on that point then you would know that it is equally immoral to eat pork. Ever had a slice of bacon? Then you are morally equivalent to a fag. It's also as moral as gayness is immoral to sell your daughter into slavery.
Either you take it all as absolute truth , or you don't. If you do, then all this and many more ridiculous things follow. If you do not, then you are picking and choosing what to believe based on your own petty hatreds. Either way it certainly isn't a moral position.
You saw a 20 second clip on the Daily show. Well that proves my point about how some people get their news. I can't believe you quote the Daily show for news... That in itself proves all my points.
I saw the person who typed the memo in question saying that she did, in fact, type it. I fail to see where the ambiguity is there. It was very cut and dried.
Homosexuality is a choice. People are NOT born that way. Prove to me otherwise.
You're the one supporting the constitution to limit rights and freedom, so the burden of proof falls squarely on you. Additionally, you are the one making the assertion that goes against *all* of the available evidence.
But, nonetheless, here is a crapload of evidence.
First, I have known many gay people and they all grew up being attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite. Most of them hated it and tried hard to be "normal" but it just isn't that way.
Further, it has always existed among humans as far back as we can go.
Additionally, it exists in most animal species. Are you claiming animals have free will?
Now, your assertion that it is a choice also implies some other things.
It implies that a large segment of the population in every race, culture, religion, and geographic region has decided to act in a way that subjects them to discrimination, torture, murder, and various other violations of their basic human rights. You provide no basis for this, nor an incentive for them.
The simple fact is that you are a hate filled bigot who wants to control other people to the basic level of how they fuck.
Explain to me how that is any of your fucking business.
Further, explain how you came to the ridiculous conclusion that it is a choice rather than a biological imperative even though your assertion is not backed up by a single scrap of evidence nor is it even backed up by basic common sense.
You honestly believe that Kerry would not turn troops over to U.N. control?
Of course he wouldn't. Where do you get these insane ravings? There is not a single scrap of evidence in his words or in his actions that this is even a possibility, let alone true.
Kerry would do a better job of proteting America? Look at the guys voting record.
I have. Nothing in it backs up your assertion.
Now look at Bush's record. His actions helped allow the worst attack on America in history.
That's a tough one to argue around which is why you have consistently refused to address that point.
Realize that Kerry did NOT vote for the first gulf war. What does that say?
Let's see. Maybe it says that he looked at the situation and realised it was a stupid war. IUn fact, Bush senior was dealing with Saddam and agreed to let him invade Kuwait. When he did, Bush senior then betrayed his ally. I wouldn't have wanted to approve something that dishonest, dishonourable and downright sleazy either.
"The same people who are trying to outlaw abortion are the same trying to prevent the ability to avoid it through contraception." As with most of your points you are wrong here.
If I was wrong here, why can't you back it up with anything other than a bald faced lie? Bush and his cronies are against abortion and they cut all funding for contraception. The only funding they will do is for teaching abstinence. This is moronic, as that isn't how people work. Now, it's all well and good to teach people that that is 100% effective, but it is not realistic to think it is actually a realistic take on the situation. For absolute proof, I'll point you to the entirety of human history.
Christian churches are largely against abortion, but they are against contraception as well. They are violently opposed to teaching about the basic facts of biology as well.
Kerry being Catholic should never support anything that prevents life.
1. He shows 10-20second clips to make the political person look like an ass. Yet he rips on crossfire for "hurting amercia".
He is a comedian, and his show is satire. Crossfire is an entertainment show nothing more. It is billed as a news program though. Many people still think that the news actually presents news. This is a problem. That you fail to see the difference is frightening.
Give an inch? If Bush purgured himself to a grand jury he would be out of office.
Bush hasn't been hounded incessantly by a vitriol filled attack squad. If he was held up to 1% of the standard that Clinton was, then he would have been out of office for lying to the American public to get 10s of thousands of people killed.
Just fucking typical. A lie about a blowjob is impeachable, but a lie to start a war is totally ok. Do you honestly not understand that that is a sick unhuman attitude? Let me guess, you also say that you're a Christian? Bah. No honest Christian could conceivably support Bush. Maybe you can point where Jesus said it's ok to lie and murder?
Like him or not, Bush does not change his views often. You know what you are getting with him. This lends to his credibility.
OK, so you are completely deluded as to what integrity is. Being wrong, admitting it, and working to fix it lends credibility. Being wrong and then never even reconsidering a single mistake does not lend credibility. It destroys it. The fact that you think sticking to what you first did whether or not it is right is completley fucked up. You clearly have no concept of credibility or integrity. You just want your guy to win and fuck the consequences. What a sorry state the country is in when attitudes like that aren't laughed into obscurity.
You cannot say that you are a Catholic and then promote pro choice.
Certainly you can. You cannot say you're a Catholic and then promote punishing priests for raping children. Oh, you don't agree with that? Well, that's the policy of the Catholic church. Churches are often wrong about basic things. The fact is that Kerry isn't pro choice because he thinks the church is wrong. He's pro choice because this is America land of the free. He knows that it is a sickeningly criminal action to allow religion into policy. See Salem for the relevant example that was in the minds of the framers when they put it there. That was Christians oppressing Christians just as it was back in Europe when the settlers came here. Letting crusty old religious tracts enslave a person to their body is about as unfree as you can get. You don't care about freedom though. You care about forcing your beliefs down the throats of everybody. No fucking way, bucko.
Jon Steward saying crossfire is bad for America is a bit or an irony when he himself constantly tries to make politicians look like idiots.
I don't see the irony. He is doing a comedy show. Politicians, for the most part, are idiots. Rather they are slime, so making them look like idiots isn't a big deal.
Selling yourself as a news program when you're entertainment is a different issue entirely.
I am not sure where you get she admitted the words were real. Please provide a link (non CNN or CBS).
I saw the clip from the interview on...The Daily Show of all places. Non CNN or CBS. Whatever dude. You don't like CBS because they slagged your guy. What's your beef with CNN? I suppose you only trust Fox because they only tell what the Republican party wants you to hear?
You have an issue with him and his view on gay marrage. You and I disgree there also.
I have an issue with somebody sworn to defend the conststution and freedom who tries to rip it away frm a segment of the population because he doesn't like the way his own fucking god made them. Plain and simple. This is America. Not Iran. Trying to turn it into a fundsamentalist theocracy is 100% un American.
If the judges in America would not try and create law but rule on it, this would not be an issue.
Way to repeat the party line. That is not what is happening. The constitution has been interpreted to mean discrimination is bad. Why the fuck do you thing he wants an amendment. Because what he wants is currently unconstitutional.
You do realize that near 70% of the people in the U.S. don't support gay marrage?
The whole point in having a constitution and a bill of rights is to prevent the majority from imposing their hate based beliefs on others. If 70% of the population thought that people like you ( in whatever way you care to identify yourself ) should not be allowed to marry would you be fine with that? Of course not. The fact that you are hypocritical about this is why the bill of rights is there bucko. Grow up and learn that being free means others get to as well. That's the only way it works.
Catholics believe that homosexuality is a CHOICE and is morally wrong.
The Catholic church says this and they are dead wrong. They also believe it is ok to rape children and cover it up. Individual Catholics have varying ideas.
Was it because.......
Irrelevant, all of it. The only relevant point is that Bush said it was for one thing and he used blatantly forged documents to make his case. Whatever else was going on is totally irrelevant to that fact as you once again try to gloss over that simple fact. That alone makes him completely unfit for any position of authority in a free country. How you can fail to realise that is bayond me. Be a slave if you want, but I want to live free where my leaders are beholden to the people not to their corporate interests.
1. Who would do a better job of protecting America?
Kerry undisputably. Bush could have prevented 9/11 had he merely done nothing. He systematically dismantled the apparatus Clinton set up.
2. Who would be more likely to turn American troops over to U.N. control?
Neither. This is a ridiculous statement. The Repubs like swewing this filth, but it has no basis and no legitimacy whatsoever.
3. At what point does life begin?
Irrelevant. The same people who are trying to outlaw abortion are the same trying to prevent the ability to avoid it through contraception. Further, if somebody is that unable to reise a kid through financial, emotional or some other weakness on their part, it is nobody elses business to force them to bring another person into the world. The sickness of the anti-abortion crowd to force people to have children is such a sick violation. Further, who is best to decide if they are ready to have a child? I say the one doing it. The anti-choice crowd think they are the only ones who get to make that choice and they think they can make that choice for everybody, in every circumstance. They think thay can do this because some religious poerson said so. It isn't in the bible though, so whose ass that was pulled out of is beyond me.
4. Is a socialized medical system good for America?
I think it's inarguable that a very well run one woul
The document was proven a fake. It was the cornerstone of the argument. When it falls so does the rest. Then the questions MUST be turned to why did CBS run with the story.
It was not the cornerstone. The secretary who typed the fucking thing said that it wasn't the exact document that she typed, but *that she had typed exactly the same thing.* That is the story. That is the cornerstone of the argument.
Besides which, there is so much more evidence. Not one single person has been found who would admit to having seen Bush. After covering it up for a long time, the pentagon finally released the records, and there is no record of Bush showing up during the period in question and further no record of him being paid in that period either. That was the cornerstone of Bush's argument that he was there and it fell apart on him.
Your zealorty is blinding you.
I am not a zealot. I have never voted for a Republican *or* a Democrat since I feel that the 2 party system is the worst enemy our country has. I vote based on facts and records.
There is no possible way for anybody who loves America as a free country can support Bush, not through zealotry, but because of actions he has taken while in office.
Clinton had a major anti-terrorism task force. Joint FBI and CIA. Bush dismantled it to go after smut and dirty words to appease his hate mongering religious zealot base. His ambassador to Yemen refused re entry to the head of the freaking task force.
That was a major factor in allowing the 9/11 attacks.
He has spoken out in favor of ammending the constitution for the first time in our history to explicitly discriminate against a group of people for who they were born. He swore an oath to defend the constitution, this is an act of aggression against the constitution. That is an act of treason in my book.
And to hear you act like CBS is so wrong for getting the wrong paper is just crazy. Bush used known false documents to make his case for war. That is another act of treason.
We still to this day do not know why we are in Iraq. Every justification Bush gave has been proven false. It has been proven that he knew it at the time.
So honesty would demand that you be as much and even more aganst Bush for these things than you are against CBS, but you're not. That is zealotry. The other side is wrong and your side is right even when they do the same wrong things.
Seriously. Try and come up with a single justification that would allow somebody who loves a free America to support Bush. There are none.
If you look at Kerry's voteing record you will see that he is anything but pro military. He has consistantly been against it.
Actually, it doesn't show anything of the sort. What you fail to mention as does the media, is that Cheney got in front of congress and asked them to vote to cancel most of the programs Kerry voted to cancel. Since they were not good programs, he did so. This is the truly sickening thing about this administration. They attack people for doing the exact things they do or even worse, the things they asked for.
But somehow this has no effect on his show... yeah right.
I didn't say it has no effect on the show. I said that he makes fun of Democrats and Republicans. You said that he has totally switched around and does everything against Repubs and practically nothing against Dems. That is strictly untrue.
You seem to think that since your people have decided that they will never give a single inch no matter how wrong they are on any given issue as a matter of policy and lock step to present a unified front that everyone else works the same way.
This is again strictly untrue.
It is the case that by doing this, the Republicans have destroyed any credibility that they once had and that their loyalty to their party far exceeds their loyalty to their country.
This has completely poisoned public discourse in this country, and it is dishonest, dishonourable and downright treasonous in my bnook.
Yes Jon does show "some" liberals, but the vast percentage is attacks on concervatives.
As with almost any other show of this nature, most of the jokes are at the expense of those currently in power. This is nothing new and is in no way an example of bias.
He has even gone as far as openly supporting one candidate. Do you honestly believe that someone who is openly supporting a candidate and knows the demographics of his audience to be unbiased?
I didn't say he was un biased. I said that he does make fun of both sides which he does.
Now also look at the people the daily show has had as "political satirest" and see where they lean. Do you see a trend here?
Again, irrelevant. Sure, most people who are involved in what I'll very loosly refer to as the arts tend to be more liberal. This in no way forces them to ignore stupidity on the part of other liberals, nor has it.
Did you even watch their coverage of the DNC? It was far harsher than their coverage of the RNC. This makes sense if they have a bigger stake in the Dems. Stupidity on their part hurts them more.
Umm, the core document that was presented was PROVEN to be a fake. That is far from trivial.
Are you intentionally ignoring the point? Who gives a shit about the piece of paper when the words on it *are* the story and have been proven true?
It's a very simple point which you are doing everything in your power to skate around.
They were angry that the Swift Vote ads were and are working against Kerry.
As is every other decent American who actually gives a shit about truth, honest discourse, and vicious attacks on decorated veterans in support of a cowardly deserter.
The core difference is that the Swift Vote guys stories check out.
No they don't. These people are lying shills. For example one of these slmebags claims there was no fire in a battle where he was given a medal for courage *under fire*.
What else kills CBSes credibility is the time it took for them to admit they were duped. They stood by a story that was PROVEN wrong.
Again you ignore the only relevant fact. The story has not been proven wrong. It has, in fact, been corroborated by all the involved people. So they had a different piece of paper. Why is this a fucking issue with you. The POTUS has been *proven* to be a deserter and you are arguing over a fucking piece of paper. Your sense of priorities is completely fucked.
An example of what could have gone the other way was the story about Kerry having an affair. This was substanciated by numerous sources, but when fully checked out it was not true. Ever wonder why no major news organization ran with it?
I've never even heard of this one, which I assume is part of your point here. I assume no one ran with it because it wasn't true? In the other case, they knew it was true and so they ran with it. So they didn't have the actual document. *So fucking what*. The document was written and it has been 100% corroborated. What is so hard to understand about this?
Your zealotry is blinding you to the important facts. We have a cowardly deserter attacking the war record of a veteran who served his country while he is sending our soldiers to die on false pretenses.
Why is it that Liberals love to throw the term Fascist at anyone that doesn't support a huge government beaurocracy controlling every aspect of your life, cradle to grave?
They don't. This country is very quickly approaching Fascism.
In a truly Fascist government, negative comments would very quickly land you in a gulag, or much worse.
Look, just because you don't even know what fascism is doesn't mean you should make shit up in a public forum. You just make yourself look ignorant.
Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power.
When the energy industry meets with the VP secretly to set energy policy, no non-industry voices are heard and the details are kept secret from the citizens that is a perfect example of fascism.
When our military is privatized leading to illegal actions by people outside the chain of command, that is another example of fascism.
When the media is allowed to conglomerate to the point it has leading them to sell us a war rather than ask valid questions, that is fascism.
When Major weapons manufacturers own huge chunks of the media and sell wars to make billions, that is fascism.
No one who does not already share your worldview will take you seriously until you are intellectually honest in the way you communicate. Ditch the emotion-laden buzzwords.
Anybody who actually knows what the words mean and has been paying attention takes it very seriously. Those aren't buzzwords. Those are the words being used correctly in their proper context.
Though none can be perfect, we have the most humane, dignified, and empowering government that the world has ever seen--but with our citizens trying to trade their every freedom for a dependence on feel-good programs and the thinly veiled motivations of foreigners who only stood to profit from human suffering, we are going to lose more than our self-determination. We will lose everything that made this country special and great.
What a crock of shit.
Our citizens are trading their freedom for cowardice. Oh no, we were attacked. Lets's let the government take away our liberties. You are so far off base here it's insane.
We are losng everything that made this country great, and we're losing it to the fascists in power (dems and repubs).
Please try to actually learn a little bit about the subject before spouting off your ignorant rhetoric.
I don't know if you intended this, but if you are sincere about your admiration for Jon Stewart then the least you could do is spell his name correctly (no "h").
Doh!. Crap. It was late at night. Thanks for the hot tip. I sincerely admire him, but I, like him, know he's a comedian. It might be pretty funny to see him in office, but I think he'd honestly do his best to do a good job, stress himself out and not be that funny anymore;-)
Have you ever watched....Ted Kennedy or like give a talk.
Yes.
You could make a show out of that.
Ted Kennedy is often a target of ridicule on the Daily Show. I guess you didn't actually have a point. You just want to bash everything that doesn't kiss Bush's ass?
A document that was written in Microsoft Word in 197X.... That doesn't seem like all the facts. CBS was pissed that the swift vote guys had an impact on the election. They wanted to bash Bush and rushed the story. They did NOT check all their facts and found out that they were lied too.
Which is a trivial footnote. Nothing more.
All of the facts are in order. The text of the memo was real even if the paper wasn't. The irrelevancy of that compared to the proven fact that Bush is a coward and a deserter is extreme.
The fact that you think that matters a bit compared to the magnitude of the story shows your blind zealotry.
What about the wrongful deaths of Iraqis under Saddam Hussain's thumb, should that not be forcefully stopped?
Yeah, it's a good thing we executed Rumsfeld for selling him the gas. Oh that's right. We Didn't. We actually put him and most of the rest of the people who colluded with Saddam back in power.
Did you actually have a point or were you just trolling?
A government run health care system is bad because it pushes the decisions away from doctors and patients
How is this different than an HMO? Privitization of health insurance means all decisions are made by those whose paychecks depend 100% on not giving you any care.
However, Bush never said homosexuality is immoral. You're spreading a lie to promote the second part of your statement.
He did much much worse than that. He said that certain people should not be allowed the same rights as others because of how they were born. That is a blatant violation of his oath of office.
By the way, I was reading how Kerry used Christopher Reeve's death to promote embryonic stem cell research. That made me sick to my stomach. Scientists are finding ways to get stem cells from other sources other than human embryos.
If that sickens you, then you are not informed enough to even comment on the issue.
He was a friend of Kerry's. He fully supported stem cell research and that is exactly what he would have wanted. So please save your bullshit act of moral outrage for something that actually merits it. Better yet, try and have an idea of your own rather than repeating the talking points you were fed.
the fact remains that if you watch the show 2 years ago, it really did have a different feel to it. Perhaps that'll change after the election, perhaps it won't.
Nope. I gotta call you on that bullshit.
Look at their coverage of the DNC. They grabbed a sampling of the Democrats (Jew, gay, black, latino etc. etc. etc.) and put them in a room and discussed what the Dem arty was all about and got them to deteriorate to a shouting match. All Democrats at their own fucking convention. They do this stuff all the time.
They can't say they are just comedians and then spend 80% of their material bashing one political party.
The current administration is Republican. The majority in the house and the senate are Reublican. The vast majority of the bills making it through are Republican.
This shows no evidence whatsoever of a bias. When you're making fun of the news, then when most of the news is about one side, then that is what you make fun of.
It really isn't that hard to figure this stuff out.
Yes they may be trying to change their ways but they have a long long way to go just to get up to where CBS is. Now we all know where CBS leans..
How do you know that CBS leans any way? They reported a relevant story which has been backed up by *all* of the facts. The fact that their piece of paper wasn't the right one even though all of the words on it were correct and were the ones actually put on the "real" piece of paper does absolutely nothing to contradict the facts which were reported.
You are clearly so biased that you will take any little scrap as a way to discount something which has been backed up and has in no way been refuted.
How can you write that? You just argued for 6 paragrahs or so how the media severs themselves, and at the end you write how it's all a media-politician conspiricy.
I didn't write it, but reading it his point was clear and obvious.
The way that the media can best serve itself is by serving the politicians.
in Chicago and D.C. it's completely illegal to own a handgun (and in D.C. any other guns you might own are required to be kept disassembled.) However, those three cities have very high numbers of crimes involving firearms, and handguns in particular.
In fact, Chicago has more murders per year than New York and LA *combined* and it is a smaller city than either of them. 2 people were murdered with hand guns a week apart a block from my house last month in Chicago.
And Stewart has no trouble throwing fastballs when a Republican comes on.
Actually, most of the time he is far easier on his Republcan guests than he is on his Democrat guests. This is something he has taken a lot of flack for from segments of his audience. Lots of people want him to go for blood, but he very rarely does.
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You saw a 20 second clip on what you call a comedy show. Nuff said.
I saw the person who typed the memo say that she typed the memo.
That is enough said.
Where I saw it is irrelevant . The only reason you harp on it is because your case can't stand up to it so you pull some moronic shit like that to make it seem like you discredited basic simple facts.
Sorry it don't work like that.
Again Homosexuality is a choice. You may not like to hear it but it is true. I can also point to a ton of evidence supporting this. It is abnormal behaviour.
Were it true, you would be able to point to evidence thereof, but it isn't and you can't.
That's what happens when you base your positions on ignorant hatred rather than facts.
It certainly is not abnormal behavior. It exists in every culture, country and religion throughout history and in most higher animal species.
The fact that you are an ignorant bigot who bases his decisions on hatred shows how little you actually know about your own fucking religion. At least the religion you claim to follow.
You are not a Christian. You spit in the face of Jesus' words with your ignorant hatred.
Does that mean that homosexuals should not have freedoms? I did not say that.
No, you said certain freedoms should not be allowefd to them because of how your god made them.
You only claim it's a choice because you can use that to justify your hate-based legislation.
You have no proof, hell there is no reason to believe that except so you can use it to justify hatred.
Yeah, you're really a Christian.
You're not even a decent American with sickening attitudes like that.
Druge developed by the Government. Again, you are dead wrong. Being somewhat invloved in this industry I can say without fact that the government has had little to do with ANY major medical breakthrough in resent years.
Bullshit.
You have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about.
The advertising exceeds their R&D. Well I guess you can just make facts up now.
Nope. That's an actual fact. Try looking something up for once rather than spouting Fox's lies.
Once they were allowed to advertize on TV, their ad budgets went through the roof to the point that they now exceed their R&D budget.
Given that *basic* research is done almost entirely through government funding, this isn't surprising. At least if you know anything about the industry.
I am a fan of letting the free market work on drugs. Just keep the government out of it. If you feel this way then you are against Kerry's view on this. You can try to spin this in to his favor, but he is for socialized meds.
No you aren't. You support Bush who pushed to illegalize letting the market work.
Medicare can't bargain with the drug companies? A little thing called economy of scale lowers prices, and bulk discounts are a huge part of the market.
This is now illegal.
You do not support the market.
Nice try. Say it all you want, but it's still a lie. That is corporate welfare, and it is fascist.
Now as for Religion/morals and government. I will turn the question around to you. Point me to a government that does not use morality to govern and is not headed tward or in chaos. That is correct NONE.
Certainly, but religion and morality are two different things.
You didn't turn anything around.
You were asked to demonstrate an example of a religious government that any decent person would want to live under and you failed.
Yet you still want to drag America down to that pit of hell.
Humanist morality is what founded this country and what has made it great.
Christian morals would do ok if what Jesus actually taught were used, rather than the hypocritical hate used by the sick wackos, like yourself, who claim to follow him, but just use it to rationalize their ignorant petty little hatreds.
Would you hire a security company whose office broke down after 500,000 people started throwing rocks at it ?
No. Because they would have to charge higher rates to replace their building.
Also, they might have lost some of their best people and information when their building collapsed.
Besides which, if that many people hated them that much, who knows what they might do to the companies clients.
viri for one, virii for two, viriii for three, viriv for four, virv for five, and so on..."
That would be one hell of a long word in any practical medical usage.
1. One show talks about polictial issues from a concervative side and a liberal side.
No it doesn't.
All it does is shout Democrat and Republican talking points which are largely lies designed to inflame the watchers against the other side.
You clearly are the target audience since you repeat these same lies as if they had any basis in fact.
If Bush was attacked the same as Clinton. You and I see it way differenlty here.
Of course we do.
I see that the Republican party launched a multi million dollar (of our money) campaign to dig up any dirt on Clinton that was possible.
They failed for years to find anything, and so they finally found a blowjob.
Now, a gentleman would be expected to lie about that. (Not that I'm claiming that was Clinton's rationale.). It destroyed the integrity of our judicial process that that was even asked in a court. Whether or not his dick was sucked is irrelevant to anything except the Springeresque segment of our population who just want a cheap thrill.
It lowered our courts, it lowered our congress.
Now, was it wrong to lie nonetheless? Yes.
What was the effect of his lie on the world? Zero.
It was a fucking blowjob.
Bush acted on his intellegence at that time. Was that intelligence correct?
No it was not correct. Yes, he knew that for a fact.
Forged documents.
Plagiarized grad school papers that were mere speculation.
"irrefutable facts" that the CIA told them not to run with since they were wrong.
10s of thousands of people dead on one hand.
A blowjob on the other.
It's really sad that sick people like you have so perverted the religion that they claim to follow.
You are against abortion, yet you support lies that kill thousands.
You clearly don't give a flying fuck about the sanctity of life, so I have to assume that your abortion stance is all about controlling other people's lives.
What else could it possibly be?
If you cared about life, then you would not support Bush.
You would not say that one blowjob=10s of thousands of deaths.
They were both lies, yet the effect was drastically different.
Again, this involves some morality and is difficult to explain to a secularist.
I have a great deal of morality.
It just happens that my morality is consistent and doesn't change based on hatred.
To a Catholic, no matter what location you live in you have your beliefs.
This is true, however it isn't what you are saying.
You are saying that everybody must have exactly the same exact beliefs to the letter as the ones the Catholic Church is claiming today.
They have changed over time and they are often inconsistent.
The fact is that the Catholic Church took an active role in raping children and covering it up.
So if you don't support this, you can't be a Catholic is what you are flat out saying.
Sorry, but it's either absolute or it isn't.
If it is absolute, then child rape=good follows.
If it is not absolute, then your argument falls apart.
but the U.S. laws are based off of some morality. That morality was founded in a Jewish, Christian belief.
False.
They were based off of humanistic morality which is far more consistent and moral than Judeo Christian beliefs.
Now, you are living under the sick delusion that being gay is immoral.
If you actually knew what the bible said on that point then you would know that it is equally immoral to eat pork. Ever had a slice of bacon?
Then you are morally equivalent to a fag.
It's also as moral as gayness is immoral to sell your daughter into slavery.
Either you take it all as absolute truth , or you don't.
If you do, then all this and many more ridiculous things follow.
If you do not, then you are picking and choosing what to believe based on your own petty hatreds.
Either way it certainly isn't a moral position.
You saw a 20 second clip on the Daily show. Well that proves my point about how some people get their news. I can't believe you quote the Daily show for news... That in itself proves all my points.
I saw the person who typed the memo in question saying that she did, in fact, type it.
I fail to see where the ambiguity is there. It was very cut and dried.
Homosexuality is a choice. People are NOT born that way. Prove to me otherwise.
You're the one supporting the constitution to limit rights and freedom, so the burden of proof falls squarely on you.
Additionally, you are the one making the assertion that goes against *all* of the available evidence.
But, nonetheless, here is a crapload of evidence.
First, I have known many gay people and they all grew up being attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite. Most of them hated it and tried hard to be "normal" but it just isn't that way.
Further, it has always existed among humans as far back as we can go.
Additionally, it exists in most animal species. Are you claiming animals have free will?
Now, your assertion that it is a choice also implies some other things.
It implies that a large segment of the population in every race, culture, religion, and geographic region has decided to act in a way that subjects them to discrimination, torture, murder, and various other violations of their basic human rights. You provide no basis for this, nor an incentive for them.
The simple fact is that you are a hate filled bigot who wants to control other people to the basic level of how they fuck.
Explain to me how that is any of your fucking business.
Further, explain how you came to the ridiculous conclusion that it is a choice rather than a biological imperative even though your assertion is not backed up by a single scrap of evidence nor is it even backed up by basic common sense.
You honestly believe that Kerry would not turn troops over to U.N. control?
Of course he wouldn't. Where do you get these insane ravings? There is not a single scrap of evidence in his words or in his actions that this is even a possibility, let alone true.
Kerry would do a better job of proteting America? Look at the guys voting record.
I have. Nothing in it backs up your assertion.
Now look at Bush's record.
His actions helped allow the worst attack on America in history.
That's a tough one to argue around which is why you have consistently refused to address that point.
Realize that Kerry did NOT vote for the first gulf war. What does that say?
Let's see. Maybe it says that he looked at the situation and realised it was a stupid war.
IUn fact, Bush senior was dealing with Saddam and agreed to let him invade Kuwait. When he did, Bush senior then betrayed his ally.
I wouldn't have wanted to approve something that dishonest, dishonourable and downright sleazy either.
"The same people who are trying to outlaw abortion are the same trying to prevent the ability to avoid it through contraception."
As with most of your points you are wrong here.
If I was wrong here, why can't you back it up with anything other than a bald faced lie?
Bush and his cronies are against abortion and they cut all funding for contraception.
The only funding they will do is for teaching abstinence. This is moronic, as that isn't how people work.
Now, it's all well and good to teach people that that is 100% effective, but it is not realistic to think it is actually a realistic take on the situation.
For absolute proof, I'll point you to the entirety of human history.
Christian churches are largely against abortion, but they are against contraception as well. They are violently opposed to teaching about the basic facts of biology as well.
Kerry being Catholic should never support anything that prevents life.
Again, you are saying that he nee
They use stuff like stack canaries to protect x86, which makes an attack harder but not impossible.
What the heck is a "stack canary"?
Is that like a canary in a coal mine that dies first?
1. He shows 10-20second clips to make the political person look like an ass. Yet he rips on crossfire for "hurting amercia".
He is a comedian, and his show is satire.
Crossfire is an entertainment show nothing more. It is billed as a news program though. Many people still think that the news actually presents news. This is a problem. That you fail to see the difference is frightening.
Give an inch? If Bush purgured himself to a grand jury he would be out of office.
Bush hasn't been hounded incessantly by a vitriol filled attack squad. If he was held up to 1% of the standard that Clinton was, then he would have been out of office for lying to the American public to get 10s of thousands of people killed.
Just fucking typical.
A lie about a blowjob is impeachable, but a lie to start a war is totally ok.
Do you honestly not understand that that is a sick unhuman attitude? Let me guess, you also say that you're a Christian? Bah.
No honest Christian could conceivably support Bush. Maybe you can point where Jesus said it's ok to lie and murder?
Like him or not, Bush does not change his views often. You know what you are getting with him. This lends to his credibility.
OK, so you are completely deluded as to what integrity is.
Being wrong, admitting it, and working to fix it lends credibility.
Being wrong and then never even reconsidering a single mistake does not lend credibility. It destroys it.
The fact that you think sticking to what you first did whether or not it is right is completley fucked up.
You clearly have no concept of credibility or integrity.
You just want your guy to win and fuck the consequences.
What a sorry state the country is in when attitudes like that aren't laughed into obscurity.
You cannot say that you are a Catholic and then promote pro choice.
Certainly you can.
You cannot say you're a Catholic and then promote punishing priests for raping children. Oh, you don't agree with that? Well, that's the policy of the Catholic church.
Churches are often wrong about basic things.
The fact is that Kerry isn't pro choice because he thinks the church is wrong. He's pro choice because this is America land of the free. He knows that it is a sickeningly criminal action to allow religion into policy. See Salem for the relevant example that was in the minds of the framers when they put it there. That was Christians oppressing Christians just as it was back in Europe when the settlers came here. Letting crusty old religious tracts enslave a person to their body is about as unfree as you can get. You don't care about freedom though. You care about forcing your beliefs down the throats of everybody.
No fucking way, bucko.
Jon Steward saying crossfire is bad for America is a bit or an irony when he himself constantly tries to make politicians look like idiots.
I don't see the irony. He is doing a comedy show. Politicians, for the most part, are idiots. Rather they are slime, so making them look like idiots isn't a big deal.
Selling yourself as a news program when you're entertainment is a different issue entirely.
I am not sure where you get she admitted the words were real. Please provide a link (non CNN or CBS).
I saw the clip from the interview on...The Daily Show of all places.
Non CNN or CBS. Whatever dude. You don't like CBS because they slagged your guy. What's your beef with CNN? I suppose you only trust Fox because they only tell what the Republican party wants you to hear?
You have an issue with him and his view on gay marrage. You and I disgree there also.
I have an issue with somebody sworn to defend the conststution and freedom who tries to rip it away frm a segment of the population because he doesn't like the way his own fucking god made them. Plain and simple. This is America. Not Iran. Trying to turn it into a fundsamentalist theocracy is 100% un American.
If the judges in America would not try and create law but rule on it, this would not be an issue.
Way to repeat the party line.
That is not what is happening. The constitution has been interpreted to mean discrimination is bad. Why the fuck do you thing he wants an amendment. Because what he wants is currently unconstitutional.
You do realize that near 70% of the people in the U.S. don't support gay marrage?
The whole point in having a constitution and a bill of rights is to prevent the majority from imposing their hate based beliefs on others.
If 70% of the population thought that people like you ( in whatever way you care to identify yourself ) should not be allowed to marry would you be fine with that? Of course not.
The fact that you are hypocritical about this is why the bill of rights is there bucko.
Grow up and learn that being free means others get to as well. That's the only way it works.
Catholics believe that homosexuality is a CHOICE and is morally wrong.
The Catholic church says this and they are dead wrong. They also believe it is ok to rape children and cover it up. Individual Catholics have varying ideas.
Was it because.......
Irrelevant, all of it.
The only relevant point is that Bush said it was for one thing and he used blatantly forged documents to make his case. Whatever else was going on is totally irrelevant to that fact as you once again try to gloss over that simple fact. That alone makes him completely unfit for any position of authority in a free country. How you can fail to realise that is bayond me.
Be a slave if you want, but I want to live free where my leaders are beholden to the people not to their corporate interests.
1. Who would do a better job of protecting America?
Kerry undisputably. Bush could have prevented 9/11 had he merely done nothing. He systematically dismantled the apparatus Clinton set up.
2. Who would be more likely to turn American troops over to U.N. control?
Neither. This is a ridiculous statement. The Repubs like swewing this filth, but it has no basis and no legitimacy whatsoever.
3. At what point does life begin?
Irrelevant.
The same people who are trying to outlaw abortion are the same trying to prevent the ability to avoid it through contraception.
Further, if somebody is that unable to reise a kid through financial, emotional or some other weakness on their part, it is nobody elses business to force them to bring another person into the world.
The sickness of the anti-abortion crowd to force people to have children is such a sick violation.
Further, who is best to decide if they are ready to have a child? I say the one doing it. The anti-choice crowd think they are the only ones who get to make that choice and they think they can make that choice for everybody, in every circumstance. They think thay can do this because some religious poerson said so. It isn't in the bible though, so whose ass that was pulled out of is beyond me.
4. Is a socialized medical system good for America?
I think it's inarguable that a very well run one woul
The document was proven a fake. It was the cornerstone of the argument. When it falls so does the rest. Then the questions MUST be turned to why did CBS run with the story.
It was not the cornerstone.
The secretary who typed the fucking thing said that it wasn't the exact document that she typed, but *that she had typed exactly the same thing.* That is the story. That is the cornerstone of the argument.
Besides which, there is so much more evidence.
Not one single person has been found who would admit to having seen Bush.
After covering it up for a long time, the pentagon finally released the records, and there is no record of Bush showing up during the period in question and further no record of him being paid in that period either. That was the cornerstone of Bush's argument that he was there and it fell apart on him.
Your zealorty is blinding you.
I am not a zealot. I have never voted for a Republican *or* a Democrat since I feel that the 2 party system is the worst enemy our country has.
I vote based on facts and records.
There is no possible way for anybody who loves America as a free country can support Bush, not through zealotry, but because of actions he has taken while in office.
Clinton had a major anti-terrorism task force. Joint FBI and CIA. Bush dismantled it to go after smut and dirty words to appease his hate mongering religious zealot base.
His ambassador to Yemen refused re entry to the head of the freaking task force.
That was a major factor in allowing the 9/11 attacks.
He has spoken out in favor of ammending the constitution for the first time in our history to explicitly discriminate against a group of people for who they were born. He swore an oath to defend the constitution, this is an act of aggression against the constitution. That is an act of treason in my book.
And to hear you act like CBS is so wrong for getting the wrong paper is just crazy.
Bush used known false documents to make his case for war. That is another act of treason.
We still to this day do not know why we are in Iraq. Every justification Bush gave has been proven false. It has been proven that he knew it at the time.
So honesty would demand that you be as much and even more aganst Bush for these things than you are against CBS, but you're not.
That is zealotry. The other side is wrong and your side is right even when they do the same wrong things.
Seriously. Try and come up with a single justification that would allow somebody who loves a free America to support Bush.
There are none.
If you look at Kerry's voteing record you will see that he is anything but pro military. He has consistantly been against it.
Actually, it doesn't show anything of the sort.
What you fail to mention as does the media, is that Cheney got in front of congress and asked them to vote to cancel most of the programs Kerry voted to cancel.
Since they were not good programs, he did so.
This is the truly sickening thing about this administration. They attack people for doing the exact things they do or even worse, the things they asked for.
But somehow this has no effect on his show... yeah right.
I didn't say it has no effect on the show. I said that he makes fun of Democrats and Republicans.
You said that he has totally switched around and does everything against Repubs and practically nothing against Dems.
That is strictly untrue.
You seem to think that since your people have decided that they will never give a single inch no matter how wrong they are on any given issue as a matter of policy and lock step to present a unified front that everyone else works the same way.
This is again strictly untrue.
It is the case that by doing this, the Republicans have destroyed any credibility that they once had and that their loyalty to their party far exceeds their loyalty to their country.
This has completely poisoned public discourse in this country, and it is dishonest, dishonourable and downright treasonous in my bnook.
Yes Jon does show "some" liberals, but the vast percentage is attacks on concervatives.
As with almost any other show of this nature, most of the jokes are at the expense of those currently in power. This is nothing new and is in no way an example of bias.
He has even gone as far as openly supporting one candidate. Do you honestly believe that someone who is openly supporting a candidate and knows the demographics of his audience to be unbiased?
I didn't say he was un biased. I said that he does make fun of both sides which he does.
Now also look at the people the daily show has had as "political satirest" and see where they lean. Do you see a trend here?
Again, irrelevant. Sure, most people who are involved in what I'll very loosly refer to as the arts tend to be more liberal. This in no way forces them to ignore stupidity on the part of other liberals, nor has it.
Did you even watch their coverage of the DNC? It was far harsher than their coverage of the RNC.
This makes sense if they have a bigger stake in the Dems. Stupidity on their part hurts them more.
Umm, the core document that was presented was PROVEN to be a fake. That is far from trivial.
Are you intentionally ignoring the point?
Who gives a shit about the piece of paper when the words on it *are* the story and have been proven true?
It's a very simple point which you are doing everything in your power to skate around.
They were angry that the Swift Vote ads were and are working against Kerry.
As is every other decent American who actually gives a shit about truth, honest discourse, and vicious attacks on decorated veterans in support of a cowardly deserter.
The core difference is that the Swift Vote guys stories check out.
No they don't. These people are lying shills.
For example one of these slmebags claims there was no fire in a battle where he was given a medal for courage *under fire*.
What else kills CBSes credibility is the time it took for them to admit they were duped. They stood by a story that was PROVEN wrong.
Again you ignore the only relevant fact. The story has not been proven wrong. It has, in fact, been corroborated by all the involved people. So they had a different piece of paper. Why is this a fucking issue with you. The POTUS has been *proven* to be a deserter and you are arguing over a fucking piece of paper. Your sense of priorities is completely fucked.
An example of what could have gone the other way was the story about Kerry having an affair. This was substanciated by numerous sources, but when fully checked out it was not true. Ever wonder why no major news organization ran with it?
I've never even heard of this one, which I assume is part of your point here.
I assume no one ran with it because it wasn't true? In the other case, they knew it was true and so they ran with it. So they didn't have the actual document. *So fucking what*. The document was written and it has been 100% corroborated.
What is so hard to understand about this?
Your zealotry is blinding you to the important facts. We have a cowardly deserter attacking the war record of a veteran who served his country while he is sending our soldiers to die on false pretenses.
Those are the uncontested facts.
Why is it that Liberals love to throw the term Fascist at anyone that doesn't support a huge government beaurocracy controlling every aspect of your life, cradle to grave?
They don't. This country is very quickly approaching Fascism.
In a truly Fascist government, negative comments would very quickly land you in a gulag, or much worse.
Look, just because you don't even know what fascism is doesn't mean you should make shit up in a public forum. You just make yourself look ignorant.
Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power.
When the energy industry meets with the VP secretly to set energy policy, no non-industry voices are heard and the details are kept secret from the citizens that is a perfect example of fascism.
When our military is privatized leading to illegal actions by people outside the chain of command, that is another example of fascism.
When the media is allowed to conglomerate to the point it has leading them to sell us a war rather than ask valid questions, that is fascism.
When Major weapons manufacturers own huge chunks of the media and sell wars to make billions, that is fascism.
No one who does not already share your worldview will take you seriously until you are intellectually honest in the way you communicate. Ditch the emotion-laden buzzwords.
Anybody who actually knows what the words mean and has been paying attention takes it very seriously.
Those aren't buzzwords. Those are the words being used correctly in their proper context.
Though none can be perfect, we have the most humane, dignified, and empowering government that the world has ever seen--but with our citizens trying to trade their every freedom for a dependence on feel-good programs and the thinly veiled motivations of foreigners who only stood to profit from human suffering, we are going to lose more than our self-determination. We will lose everything that made this country special and great.
What a crock of shit.
Our citizens are trading their freedom for cowardice. Oh no, we were attacked. Lets's let the government take away our liberties. You are so far off base here it's insane.
We are losng everything that made this country great, and we're losing it to the fascists in power (dems and repubs).
Please try to actually learn a little bit about the subject before spouting off your ignorant rhetoric.
I don't know if you intended this, but if you are sincere about your admiration for Jon Stewart then the least you could do is spell his name correctly (no "h").
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Doh!.
Crap. It was late at night. Thanks for the hot tip.
I sincerely admire him, but I, like him, know he's a comedian. It might be pretty funny to see him in office, but I think he'd honestly do his best to do a good job, stress himself out and not be that funny anymore
Have you ever watched ....Ted Kennedy or like give a talk.
Yes.
You could make a show out of that.
Ted Kennedy is often a target of ridicule on the Daily Show.
I guess you didn't actually have a point. You just want to bash everything that doesn't kiss Bush's ass?
A document that was written in Microsoft Word in 197X .... That doesn't seem like all the facts. CBS was pissed that the swift vote guys had an impact on the election. They wanted to bash Bush and rushed the story. They did NOT check all their facts and found out that they were lied too.
Which is a trivial footnote. Nothing more.
All of the facts are in order.
The text of the memo was real even if the paper wasn't. The irrelevancy of that compared to the proven fact that Bush is a coward and a deserter is extreme.
The fact that you think that matters a bit compared to the magnitude of the story shows your blind zealotry.
What about the wrongful deaths of Iraqis under Saddam Hussain's thumb, should that not be forcefully stopped?
Yeah, it's a good thing we executed Rumsfeld for selling him the gas.
Oh that's right. We Didn't.
We actually put him and most of the rest of the people who colluded with Saddam back in power.
Did you actually have a point or were you just trolling?
A government run health care system is bad because it pushes the decisions away from doctors and patients
How is this different than an HMO? Privitization of health insurance means all decisions are made by those whose paychecks depend 100% on not giving you any care.
However, Bush never said homosexuality is immoral. You're spreading a lie to promote the second part of your statement.
He did much much worse than that.
He said that certain people should not be allowed the same rights as others because of how they were born.
That is a blatant violation of his oath of office.
By the way, I was reading how Kerry used Christopher Reeve's death to promote embryonic stem cell research. That made me sick to my stomach. Scientists are finding ways to get stem cells from other sources other than human embryos.
If that sickens you, then you are not informed enough to even comment on the issue.
He was a friend of Kerry's. He fully supported stem cell research and that is exactly what he would have wanted.
So please save your bullshit act of moral outrage for something that actually merits it.
Better yet, try and have an idea of your own rather than repeating the talking points you were fed.
I wouldn't be suprised if he becomes a governer, or the president, in less than 8 years. His running mate? Lewis Black.
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the fact remains that if you watch the show 2 years ago, it really did have a different feel to it. Perhaps that'll change after the election, perhaps it won't.
Nope.
I gotta call you on that bullshit.
Look at their coverage of the DNC.
They grabbed a sampling of the Democrats (Jew, gay, black, latino etc. etc. etc.) and put them in a room and discussed what the Dem arty was all about and got them to deteriorate to a shouting match. All Democrats at their own fucking convention.
They do this stuff all the time.
They wll roust anybody.
They can't say they are just comedians and then spend 80% of their material bashing one political party.
The current administration is Republican.
The majority in the house and the senate are Reublican.
The vast majority of the bills making it through are Republican.
This shows no evidence whatsoever of a bias. When you're making fun of the news, then when most of the news is about one side, then that is what you make fun of.
It really isn't that hard to figure this stuff out.
Yes they may be trying to change their ways but they have a long long way to go just to get up to where CBS is. Now we all know where CBS leans..
How do you know that CBS leans any way?
They reported a relevant story which has been backed up by *all* of the facts. The fact that their piece of paper wasn't the right one even though all of the words on it were correct and were the ones actually put on the "real" piece of paper does absolutely nothing to contradict the facts which were reported.
You are clearly so biased that you will take any little scrap as a way to discount something which has been backed up and has in no way been refuted.
Why is that exactly?
How can you write that? You just argued for 6 paragrahs or so how the media severs themselves, and at the end you write how it's all a media-politician conspiricy.
I didn't write it, but reading it his point was clear and obvious.
The way that the media can best serve itself is by serving the politicians.
What exactly was unclear about what he said?
in Chicago and D.C. it's completely illegal to own a handgun (and in D.C. any other guns you might own are required to be kept disassembled.) However, those three cities have very high numbers of crimes involving firearms, and handguns in particular.
In fact, Chicago has more murders per year than New York and LA *combined* and it is a smaller city than either of them.
2 people were murdered with hand guns a week apart a block from my house last month in Chicago.
And Stewart has no trouble throwing fastballs when a Republican comes on.
Actually, most of the time he is far easier on his Republcan guests than he is on his Democrat guests.
This is something he has taken a lot of flack for from segments of his audience. Lots of people want him to go for blood, but he very rarely does.