very right ! Another good reason for Google to stay out of this mess is that getting involve in router business will mean Google having a presence in every point of value chain. Which will eventually attract anti trust/mono poly suits.Why get in to the legal shit for a low margin biz like Router .
it might make sense for them to use it internally but distributing router to common man is a totally different cane of worm.If I am Google I will let the CISCO's of world handle that .
What bother me about this whole 160 byte crap is that even ppl at/. take it on face value. Gentelmen (and women if any ) amount of data which is sent in SMS is way too much . to give you an idea of that I would like to Quote a slashdot poster camq188 from this story
"Much more data is sent with an SMS that just the text of the message. How do you think you get the caller id of who sent the message? To see how much data is actually sent check out the format of a âoecall detail recordâ. [cisco.com] Most data is not compressed, but rather sent as a comma separated list. You would be amazed at how much data is actually tranfered for any type of wireless communication. First the message from the sending device is sent to the nearest cell tower, which contacts a database to see which carrier you subscribe to. (Your phone does this periodically also, so your carrier knows which cell tower service area you are in so they know where to send your calls). The number you are calling is looked up in a database so they know which cell tower to broadcast your message from. Plus your IMEI,ESN, calling number, called number,originating and terminating cell tower information, originating and terminating switch and trunk data are transmitted with each message. Copies of each record are reformatted and sent to the carrier for retention, copies are sent to the billing company and the company that maintains the carrierâ(TM)s customer service web site, etc.
My point is that much more data gets transferred for each sms than the 160 characters of the text. Considering all the data transfers required for the whole process, the text of the message is actually a very low percentage total data processed. â
here is a video of Evelyn Glennie she is a deaf percussionist who claim she "Listen" music through here body . you got to see her preform to believe it .
"The brain is, frankly, a complete fucking mess from a design perpsective."
Thats Intelligent design for you.
jokes apart this "Blind sight " thing might have some grain of truth. its more likely to happen to people who are Not blind by birth but who loose their sight. this will be an interesting variation in the experiment . this is somewhat similar to Phantom Arm phenomena . there is a neuro anatomical explanation for this.
they say that your Freedom should not be on the cost of the freedom of Next guy . so we GOT TO find a middle path .
Have you heard of seasteading community [ it has been discussed on/. sometime back] they are trying to experiment with idea of society based on absolute freedom . but i am sure that overtime they will evolve their own set of regulations. its just natural .
" It is up to each of us to decide when we're too tired to drive and the law cannot make that decision for us no matter how hard it tries"
Law works on approximations . if there is a parameter value which is OK with majority of ppl it will be valid law . irrespective of your opinion . thats the cost of living in society and enjoying its benefits. if you don't like it . go live in woods .
"I think you mean systematic conditioning for conventional thought."
this is not anywhere close to what he is trying to say . some information ARE not right for kids brain..school,parents,society has responsibility to protect them . unitll they are ready to make good bad judgment.
AFAIK Richard Dawkins was a student of a school with a strong religious background. this hasn't stopped him from being what he is today
I agree with your points. Porn should be banned (those who need it will circumvent the security so we might as well make it easy to access , is a weak argument).
Real problem this guy will face will be with religion and politics ( same as in real world). what if someone wants to check out atheist,gay,socialist content. ideally They should be free to do so but Bible Brigade will inevitably come in the way . that will be the acid test . will the school like corporate would paly neutral card or defendd the freedom . sadly my experience is that more and more schools are behaving like corporate these days .
But isn't thats exactly what's happening in china and Saudi Arabia . some geeky type might turn toward security expert thing but most of them will be turning to "other" ways . may be molestation,rape,prostitution will be some of them .
Right . have you heard of simulation argument ??
www.simulation-argument.com
problem with such theories is that its a sort of recursive logic like "turtle all the way down...".stuff of science fiction, not a method of inquiry
" That way instead of a flood of inane commentary, then can see some highly ranked ideas first."
Problem with suggested method is that it will eventually reduce to an exercise in sophistry [ never mind that even/. behave like that sometime] .
IMHO most effective method of having a directly participative govt is to have a weighted voting system . where people get different number of votes on specific topic . an architect might get more votes on an issue related to urban planning than a n accountant . who might get a more votes on Finance matters . This enable a true meritocracy
"which world view do you think is easier to "market" to "consumers?""
well it depend what is the level of awareness and stage of technology when you want to "market" your view point . if technology is developed enough to provide irrefutable proofs and when human race is equiped [as in mature,intelligent and rational] enough to handle the knowledge . than scientific explanation will prevails and we won't be needing a false cocaine like comfort from religion . think of Turtle theory of earth . it was widely believed to be true but thanks to modern science we have prrof and no one believe it anymore .
I am sure someday we will have an irrefutable proof for "God Delusion" also .
so onus is upon best among us to search for the answer and provide them to world or at least ask the right Q [ like Dawkins ] . This is how society progress not by accepting the "marketed "solution just because its comforting . thinking like this will create more cult and more Vatican
Much as i like to believe you , i have a doubt . your theory says that these guys [cluster B types ] consciously know that what they are doing is wrong . and they are merely pretending to be right ( or JUST) but my personal experience is that they are convinced that their way is right.
think of Steve Jobs , he has done all the bad things you associate with that personality Type . [Stealing,cheating, intimidating, backstabbing, bullying you name it ] but his confidence make it look like He really believe in it . I don't think one can pretend all his life and do such a good job of it .
they better do other wise soon you will see history being repeated . who was Hitler...actually he was not very different from BUSH taken to extreme thanks to people around him who refuse to admit the grave danger of premises of his pseudo scientific assertion about racial superiority of Aryans .
Slashdot Mirror
very right ! Another good reason for Google to stay out of this mess is that getting involve in router business will mean Google having a presence in every point of value chain. Which will eventually attract anti trust /mono poly suits .Why get in to the legal shit for a low margin biz like Router .
it might make sense for them to use it internally but distributing router to common man is a totally different cane of worm .If I am Google I will let the CISCO's of world handle that .
Safenet is based out of India , in my office building .
"Much more data is sent with an SMS that just the text of the message. How do you think you get the caller id of who sent the message? To see how much data is actually sent check out the format of a âoecall detail recordâ. [cisco.com] Most data is not compressed, but rather sent as a comma separated list. You would be amazed at how much data is actually tranfered for any type of wireless communication. First the message from the sending device is sent to the nearest cell tower, which contacts a database to see which carrier you subscribe to. (Your phone does this periodically also, so your carrier knows which cell tower service area you are in so they know where to send your calls). The number you are calling is looked up in a database so they know which cell tower to broadcast your message from. Plus your IMEI,ESN, calling number, called number,originating and terminating cell tower information, originating and terminating switch and trunk data are transmitted with each message. Copies of each record are reformatted and sent to the carrier for retention, copies are sent to the billing company and the company that maintains the carrierâ(TM)s customer service web site, etc. My point is that much more data gets transferred for each sms than the 160 characters of the text. Considering all the data transfers required for the whole process, the text of the message is actually a very low percentage total data processed. â
here is a video of Evelyn Glennie she is a deaf percussionist who claim she "Listen" music through here body . you got to see her preform to believe it .
Thats Intelligent design for you.
jokes apart this "Blind sight " thing might have some grain of truth. its more likely to happen to people who are Not blind by birth but who loose their sight. this will be an interesting variation in the experiment . this is somewhat similar to Phantom Arm phenomena . there is a neuro anatomical explanation for this.
20+ comment with in 10 min of publication when TFA have 158 pages of gibberish . are you guys cyborg or people on /. have stopped Reading TFA .
they say that your Freedom should not be on the cost of the freedom of Next guy . so we GOT TO find a middle path . Have you heard of seasteading community [ it has been discussed on /. sometime back] they are trying to experiment with idea of society based on absolute freedom . but i am sure that overtime they will evolve their own set of regulations. its just natural .
Because circular saw doesn't come with a Restore CD
thats NOT Freedom thats anarchy ,mahem,chaos.
" It is up to each of us to decide when we're too tired to drive and the law cannot make that decision for us no matter how hard it tries"
Law works on approximations . if there is a parameter value which is OK with majority of ppl it will be valid law . irrespective of your opinion . thats the cost of living in society and enjoying its benefits. if you don't like it . go live in woods .
you sound like a sane man. you don't belong to this place . go back alien !! this is our planet
"I think you mean systematic conditioning for conventional thought." this is not anywhere close to what he is trying to say . some information ARE not right for kids brain ..school,parents,society has responsibility to protect them . unitll they are ready to make good bad judgment.
AFAIK Richard Dawkins was a student of a school with a strong religious background. this hasn't stopped him from being what he is today
I agree with your points. Porn should be banned (those who need it will circumvent the security so we might as well make it easy to access , is a weak argument). Real problem this guy will face will be with religion and politics ( same as in real world). what if someone wants to check out atheist,gay,socialist content. ideally They should be free to do so but Bible Brigade will inevitably come in the way . that will be the acid test . will the school like corporate would paly neutral card or defendd the freedom . sadly my experience is that more and more schools are behaving like corporate these days .
But isn't thats exactly what's happening in china and Saudi Arabia . some geeky type might turn toward security expert thing but most of them will be turning to "other" ways . may be molestation,rape,prostitution will be some of them .
To prepare them for real world He should block Slashdot on all those machine
folks at palm must be turning in grave on that . These Fanboys !!
Right . have you heard of simulation argument ?? www.simulation-argument.com problem with such theories is that its a sort of recursive logic like "turtle all the way down ..." .stuff of science fiction, not a method of inquiry
" That way instead of a flood of inane commentary, then can see some highly ranked ideas first." Problem with suggested method is that it will eventually reduce to an exercise in sophistry [ never mind that even /. behave like that sometime] .
IMHO most effective method of having a directly participative govt is to have a weighted voting system . where people get different number of votes on specific topic . an architect might get more votes on an issue related to urban planning than a n accountant . who might get a more votes on Finance matters . This enable a true meritocracy
if gov wants to go Web 2.0 ( whatever that means) can they assure 99.999% uptime ?
"which world view do you think is easier to "market" to "consumers?"" well it depend what is the level of awareness and stage of technology when you want to "market" your view point . if technology is developed enough to provide irrefutable proofs and when human race is equiped [as in mature ,intelligent and rational] enough to handle the knowledge . than scientific explanation will prevails and we won't be needing a false cocaine like comfort from religion . think of Turtle theory of earth . it was widely believed to be true but thanks to modern science we have prrof and no one believe it anymore .
I am sure someday we will have an irrefutable proof for "God Delusion" also .
so onus is upon best among us to search for the answer and provide them to world or at least ask the right Q [ like Dawkins ] . This is how society progress not by accepting the "marketed "solution just because its comforting . thinking like this will create more cult and more Vatican
Much as i like to believe you , i have a doubt . your theory says that these guys [cluster B types ] consciously know that what they are doing is wrong . and they are merely pretending to be right ( or JUST) but my personal experience is that they are convinced that their way is right. think of Steve Jobs , he has done all the bad things you associate with that personality Type . [Stealing,cheating, intimidating, backstabbing, bullying you name it ] but his confidence make it look like He really believe in it . I don't think one can pretend all his life and do such a good job of it .
Why the Fuck it has been mobbed as Troll .its insightful
Flashmob ?
another one for your list www.pmsbuddy.com
Not necessarily true . with VoIP and WiMax this can be done without a HUGE investment .
they better do other wise soon you will see history being repeated . who was Hitler ...actually he was not very different from BUSH taken to extreme thanks to people around him who refuse to admit the grave danger of premises of his pseudo scientific assertion about racial superiority of Aryans .