If the police stopped me in a subway or bus station, checked the contents of my bag and frisked me, sure I'd be a little upset about the treatment, but I'd get over it, realizing they're just trying to keep everyone (including me) safe.
This is where we all should draw the line. Random or target bag searches grows the power of the police without adding any value or safty. It's a simple fact. If the terrorists can't figure out an easy way to get around this (and I can think of some that I won't mention) they will just move on to a different type of target. In the end nothing police can do can make us safe from this.
So don't give your rights up so easy. Allowing the search at all leads to the type of police state behavior described in the article. You cannot have one without the other. It human nature for police to start acting this way when they are given broad authority with no checks.
I don't mean to overly hassle you, but today I was going into the subway and saw a man giving in to a bag search and there happened to be a class of small children, on their way to some event I suppose, who were watching what was happening. These are now children who will grow up to think this is normal and right when it is not. We have a responsibility to all the people in our various free countries who lived and died to give us that freedom. I am not going to let down my grandfather who put his life on the line in France in WW2 just because I am in a rush to get somewhere and letting a police officer search my backpack seems like not such a big deal.
Well, one problem which the "choose the best tool for the job" paradigm is that when you are working at a company that needs to consider supporting your applications after you are gone, sometimes the 'right tool for the job' is to choose from a very small list of platforms that the company is dedicated to supporting.
When I fist starting working, I had to fight tooth and nail to convince the suits to allow me to use perl at all. Dispite the fact that perl was the best tool for the job at the time, they'd rather me jump through hoops to use the platform they had invested in (Oracle 7 and plsql) then have to support another platform. It's about money and it's about being able to meet your end user support agreements.
So it not aways easy to say, "Let's use python for this and perl for that."
Now that I work at a consulting company we have more flexibility, since we typically do one off projects for clients that then support the application themselves afterward. So in that case I can actually choose the platform that seems fastest and easiest to use for the job at hand. If it's a small content management system I will use python with Plone, since I have a lot of developers that have skills in Zope. But often I use Perl for more custom stuff, since that is the language I know best.
I'm not sure if you are interested, but I am starting to put together a documentary/community based around people that lived in china for a while and then returned to the US. I'd like to gather people's experiences and relate how that might contrast with the image of China that people get from the news or from politians.
If you are interested in being part of that, feel free to contact me at my email.
This is what happens when a fascist oligarchy adopts the worst aspects of capitalism.
Funny, I was in Beijing two months ago and there was a HUGE billboard for Skype, right in the center of the business district.
My guess is that they are just using a heavy hand to pressure skype into two things:
1) handing over some money/bribes. 2) making sure they can listen in on conversations 3) They did something like this to Google a few years back. Even now google experiences outages all the time. I guess this is just the way the chinese gov't is used to doing business.
Skype just has to figure out the right person to bribe and this will all go away.
I lived in Beijing that last 20 months. Lots of times google was either being blocked or was offline. It was worse with google's specialized services like news.google.
I'm sure that the gov't is mandating educational institutions use something other than google as a home page when the browers starts up.
Remember, in a fascist oligarchy there is no true capitalist supply and demand. It makes no sense to even bother to try to figure out what is going on in that distorted economy.
you know there is a lot of frustration in the US over the different between rich and poor and between the races. However at this moment I'd would ask people to put their philosophical ramblings aside and concentrate on relief.
Being someone who was in NYC when the World Trade Center came down, I know how much worse it felt when I could see my personal tragedy was being hijacked by various people and groups for political agendas.
There is no doubt this event should lead to some serious soul searching in America. Unfortunately it probably won't with the government we have. So I think in the end people who live through it will end up feeling a little like the way I felt. I know what I lived through and I know what I think it means and I know what I am going to teach my children.
It seems then the only useful thing is to ask oneself what can I do to help? If you don't have a good answer then please ask yourself, well what can I do to respect the people to whom this happened and not make it worse?
As the older people start to retire I am sure younger people in the company will see where the promotion opportunities are and will learn on the job as needed.
You know you are only in school for a few years, but on the job training goes on your whole career, like 40 years or more.
Very little of what I learned in school is applicable to what I am doing now.
Personally I don't think schools should even try to teach such technical skills, leave that for on the job learning or for post college certification training. What colleges need to do is teach people the ability to learn on their own, to have the confidence and the habits needed to go after new fields of knowledge.
That's why I can't stand it when I see universities teaching Java and C#. By the time those kids get out of school that train will have left the station. Maybe teach that to final year students so that when they do their internships they have the basic skills. Otherwise I would expect someone who is really interested in computers to be playing with all that stuff from when they are much younger.
for a working perl6 compiler. Yeah, it is not yet feature complete, but progress is very rapid.
Perl6 is really amazing. It removes most of the worst parts of perl5 and make things even easier on the programmer. If you do an research at all you can find that.
Some people are even starting to port important CPAN modules to perl6 and discovering how much a pleasure it is to use.
that might make you want to click more or make you less interested, doesn't matter to me. Just FYIing you if you are the type to not check what the status line of a link is.
It's just some tame lesbo type stuff, no big deal unless you are totally against anything like this.
After living in China for 2 years I can assure you that the only reason that is lawsuit is going forward is because 1) Someone at Baidu forgot to pay the monthly bribe to the goverment for protection or 2) someone was able to bribe the goverment with more money to allow the suit to go forward.
Honestly, my DSL service in China links straight to a movie download service. They are hundreds of movies and games that are all pirated versions and this is coming from the gov't run DSL service. Then there are the 4 stores selling pirated DVD's within sight of the local police station. So there is no way anyone in the gov't really cares about this issue right now. They are just posturing for the WTO. Maybe in the future.
for 18 months I can tell you the great firewall is a serious problem. Not only does it block news and political sites (as well as tons of other stuff that can only makes you say huh?) but the increased latency makes VoIP and IM quite spotty.
It slows down the entire internet outside of china, even if the website is not being blocked.
Even if you pay for a proxy server outside of China, this is a serious pain that impairs any Internet related business.
I will never buy Cisco products, or any other company that is involved in it.
Perhaps it would be better to boycott companies that are big buyers of Cisco products? This worked pretty well in Forcing the South African Aparteid Goverment to change.
Anyway, after living in China I am not convinced they are on their way to a huge bubble and collapse. Sure, I see tons of new buildings and businesses, but there are also tons of scams and empty buildings. I wonder if they will not soon overdevelop beyong their capacity to use? Well, I guess we will just see.
I build a REST interface for an audio generation system at "http://mp3.motorola.com.cn:8080/composer" which is mod_perl2 on windows server 2003 and perl 5.8.6. It just works, not trouble.
I usually make a list of event codes to help ID the type of event or error and it's serverity. Then I make sure that whoever reads the log entry can find the line of code that generated the error.
For example, if I am coding in perl on apache I might have a handler called 'employees.pm'.... sub add_employee {
try { [something that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 1001 at employees.add_employee.100: Can't find the file $filename");
}
try { [something else that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 2001 at employees.add_employee.110: Bad ID of $ID assigned");
}
try { [something that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 1001 at employees.add_employee.120: Can't find the file $path/$somefile");
}
}
This way I can easy find exactly where in the code the error was generated. I can also create a cron to grep the log for certain type of error codes and SMS a warning to my mobile.
I'm sure there are perl modules that make it easier to do this, but I've been doing it this way for a while without trouble.
Sure, people will continue to use this phrase for a long time, but maybe saying it within a few days of a really terrible train wreck is very unsensitive to the victims. It's like when I was in NYC after 9/11 they decided not to play "Independence Day" on TV because some of those pictures might really upset people who already had been through a lot.
BTW, I think this is totally different from how Clearwater sent out a list of songs to ban if they mentioned the word peace. The first is just being sensitive to people who had just been through a terrible trama, while the second is a clear example of censorship in order to control the reaction to that event.
A few months later "Independence Day" was back on the TV.
I don't think it is PC to just be aware of things that are happening in the world and to people. It's not polite to stare at someones unluck, bad haircut either!
The problem is that US content providers suddenly realized that digital TV is easy to copy. So they put the brakes on developing for this until they make new digital TVs with a broadcast flag disabling copying (or so they think)
Of course, this screws all the people who already bought new digital TVs. At least, this in my understanding of the problem.
I don't think this deserves being modded troll. Maybe you don't agree with it, but this post is short and makes a reasonable point. Whoever modded it as troll should really defend his or her reason for doing that.
LOL, I was wondering the same thing! I live in the US and John Pertwee's Dr. Who was never as popular as Tom Baker, so I only saw that Episode once. But it did raise an interesting point that I don't think future writers ever investigated more, that being that idea that each point in history spawns a parallel universe(s) for every possible choice for that point.
I always thought that episode was more about the unconscious fear of "what if the Nazi's had beaten us to a useful nuclear bomb?" just as the Darleks seemed to personify a type of latent cultural need to encode the Nazi era into an identifyable villian.
Anyway, I'm sure this will be modded down as 'can only be understood by another Dr Who Nerd":)
First of all, for all you "Taxation without Representation" people, you need to read your US History and Tax law. You don't have a Constitutional right to have a vote in each locality where you pay some sort of tax or levy. The Founding Fathers understood that each State had to have to right to set taxes and levys without interference from the Federal Gov't. It's a states right's issue, part of the core idea of having a balance of power between federal, state and local gov't and private citizens.
The reason Colonists complained so much is that they were being excluded from any sort of representation, both at their home in the colonies, in the English Parliment, or in the English Courts. They had all the duties of a British Citizen and more, but none of the privileges. Here in the US you have many ways to get yourself represented.
For example, if your rights are stepped in in NYC by some aggressive policy officer, you can sue the City, no matter what state you are coming from. You can sue in city and state courts, or in many cases you can sue in Federal courts.
You can petition your federal representative to help you in an issue where you believe a state is stepping on your rights.
Additionally, you can choose to not deal with the State at all, just pick up and move to a place where things are more to your liking.
British Colonists had no such rights.
So Don't complain about Taxation without Representation.
If you work in NYC, whether you live there or not, you ARE using City services. You are riding subways and buses maintained by the city (the $2 per ride doesn't cover all the costs) and you are riding on roads in taxis being maintained by city workers. You are living in buildings that are inspected by city saftey officials. You are riding in elevators that have been reviewed by a city inspector. You are eating at places that have be checked by city health inspectors.
You are relying on City Police to enforce the law and protect you. If a crime is commited against you in NYC, you will find a host of people ready to help you and fight to find justice for you.
City firefighters will come to your rescue whether you are a city resident or an illegal alien. Just remember how many people that worked in the World Trade Center did not live in NYC. Yet hundreds of City workers laided down their lives on Sept 11, 2001 to try to save and help them.
NYC provides a business infrastructure that you can't just get by crossing the river to NJ. People come to NYC to get work done, and we have an incredible system working here to help.
NYC people are hard working and have a tremendous sense of community. NYC people know how to organize to get stuff done. We also have a ready pool of some of the most talented people in the world, in every possible field. If there is something or someone you need, you will be able to get it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Try finding that in Texas!
The truth here is that NYC is still hurting after 9/11, trying to balance it's budget and still offer essential services. A very small percentage of people are trying to selfishly squirm out of paying the same taxes that everyone who works in the city pays, and the courts said no to this behavior.
Since 9/11 and the War on Terror, NYC has had to shell out billions. Costs are high because we are still a number one target. We gladly do our part to help protect this country, but we need everyone to pitch in and pay their fair share of the costs.
If you work in NYC but live in NJ, you are crossing bridges or tunnels that are seen are prime terrorist targets. A lot of money goes to trying to protect those sites, which is directly protecting you.
Additionally, NYC spents money to protect landmark sites, such as the Statue of Libery and other places of national heritage.
Another truth is that those of you affect by this court case came to NYC to get work. I have to assume if you could get it where you live that you would do
So don't expect any NYC firefighters to come put their lives on the line to pull you from a burning building.
BTW, I doubt you have much to worry about, you don't pay city or state taxes unless your place of work is considered to be in NYC, as far as I know. I used to work for a big corp in NYC, and we had contractors working on projects for us but they lived in NJ and we just got the NJ office to cut the paychecks.
I've lived in NYC for 10 years. I can't see how it is possible that if you are making 150K per year (federal tax bracket averages out to about 25% or so) is going to be less than the 2-4% you pay in NYC (depending on the year, in general city taxes have been lowered year after year during the 1990's but slipped up again after the budget crisis that occurred after 9/11)
Maybe if you had a bunch of crazy deductions or something I suppose it is possible.
As far as 68% of your income going to income taxes, I can't see that either.
In 2003 I made 100K: paid ~19K in federal Tax paid ~6K in NY State Tax Paid ~3K in NYC Taxes
I don't have a single deduction, excluding the personal deduction, so my tax percentages are a bit higher then most people in the US at my income level (most people in my income bracket are paying morgages, so they get to deduct that)
So I paid about 28% of my income to taxes.
How the hell di you get up to 68%! I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just wondering how you pay 40% more of your income in taxes.
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This is where we all should draw the line. Random or target bag searches grows the power of the police without adding any value or safty. It's a simple fact. If the terrorists can't figure out an easy way to get around this (and I can think of some that I won't mention) they will just move on to a different type of target. In the end nothing police can do can make us safe from this.
So don't give your rights up so easy. Allowing the search at all leads to the type of police state behavior described in the article. You cannot have one without the other. It human nature for police to start acting this way when they are given broad authority with no checks.
I don't mean to overly hassle you, but today I was going into the subway and saw a man giving in to a bag search and there happened to be a class of small children, on their way to some event I suppose, who were watching what was happening. These are now children who will grow up to think this is normal and right when it is not. We have a responsibility to all the people in our various free countries who lived and died to give us that freedom. I am not going to let down my grandfather who put his life on the line in France in WW2 just because I am in a rush to get somewhere and letting a police officer search my backpack seems like not such a big deal.
Well, one problem which the "choose the best tool for the job" paradigm is that when you are working at a company that needs to consider supporting your applications after you are gone, sometimes the 'right tool for the job' is to choose from a very small list of platforms that the company is dedicated to supporting.
When I fist starting working, I had to fight tooth and nail to convince the suits to allow me to use perl at all. Dispite the fact that perl was the best tool for the job at the time, they'd rather me jump through hoops to use the platform they had invested in (Oracle 7 and plsql) then have to support another platform. It's about money and it's about being able to meet your end user support agreements.
So it not aways easy to say, "Let's use python for this and perl for that."
Now that I work at a consulting company we have more flexibility, since we typically do one off projects for clients that then support the application themselves afterward. So in that case I can actually choose the platform that seems fastest and easiest to use for the job at hand. If it's a small content management system I will use python with Plone, since I have a lot of developers that have skills in Zope. But often I use Perl for more custom stuff, since that is the language I know best.
I guess it depends on the company you are in.
I'm not sure this cost is justified unless they can point to an enemy we are actually fighting that can put a satilite into order.
I'm not sure if you are interested, but I am starting to put together a documentary/community based around people that lived in china for a while and then returned to the US. I'd like to gather people's experiences and relate how that might contrast with the image of China that people get from the news or from politians.
If you are interested in being part of that, feel free to contact me at my email.
peace, john
Are you in China now? Just curious, I left Beijing in July, was wondering if the fall was as nice as last year.
This is what happens when a fascist oligarchy adopts the worst aspects of capitalism.
Funny, I was in Beijing two months ago and there was a HUGE billboard for Skype, right in the center of the business district.
My guess is that they are just using a heavy hand to pressure skype into two things:
1) handing over some money/bribes.
2) making sure they can listen in on conversations
3) They did something like this to Google a few years back. Even now google experiences outages all the time. I guess this is just the way the chinese gov't is used to doing business.
Skype just has to figure out the right person to bribe and this will all go away.
I lived in Beijing that last 20 months. Lots of times google was either being blocked or was offline. It was worse with google's specialized services like news.google.
I'm sure that the gov't is mandating educational institutions use something other than google as a home page when the browers starts up.
Remember, in a fascist oligarchy there is no true capitalist supply and demand. It makes no sense to even bother to try to figure out what is going on in that distorted economy.
you know there is a lot of frustration in the US over the different between rich and poor and between the races. However at this moment I'd would ask people to put their philosophical ramblings aside and concentrate on relief.
Being someone who was in NYC when the World Trade Center came down, I know how much worse it felt when I could see my personal tragedy was being hijacked by various people and groups for political agendas.
There is no doubt this event should lead to some serious soul searching in America. Unfortunately it probably won't with the government we have. So I think in the end people who live through it will end up feeling a little like the way I felt. I know what I lived through and I know what I think it means and I know what I am going to teach my children.
It seems then the only useful thing is to ask oneself what can I do to help? If you don't have a good answer then please ask yourself, well what can I do to respect the people to whom this happened and not make it worse?
...and you will see that it is certainly the role of government to be leading the response to this crisis.
It is the reason why we the people allow the gov't to exist at all and impose itself on our freedom and liberty.
Gov't doesn't justify itself.
As the older people start to retire I am sure younger people in the company will see where the promotion opportunities are and will learn on the job as needed.
You know you are only in school for a few years, but on the job training goes on your whole career, like 40 years or more.
Very little of what I learned in school is applicable to what I am doing now.
Personally I don't think schools should even try to teach such technical skills, leave that for on the job learning or for post college certification training. What colleges need to do is teach people the ability to learn on their own, to have the confidence and the habits needed to go after new fields of knowledge.
That's why I can't stand it when I see universities teaching Java and C#. By the time those kids get out of school that train will have left the station. Maybe teach that to final year students so that when they do their internships they have the basic skills. Otherwise I would expect someone who is really interested in computers to be playing with all that stuff from when they are much younger.
check out "http://pugscode.org/"
_ p6.html
for a working perl6 compiler. Yeah, it is not yet feature complete, but progress is very rapid.
Perl6 is really amazing. It removes most of the worst parts of perl5 and make things even easier on the programmer. If you do an research at all you can find that.
Some people are even starting to port important CPAN modules to perl6 and discovering how much a pleasure it is to use.
see http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/07/28/test_builder
as an example of that.
btw, check out the example code. for all of you who think perl5 looks like static on a tv screen, you will be pleasantly surprised I think.
peace
that might make you want to click more or make you less interested, doesn't matter to me. Just FYIing you if you are the type to not check what the status line of a link is.
It's just some tame lesbo type stuff, no big deal unless you are totally against anything like this.
After living in China for 2 years I can assure you that the only reason that is lawsuit is going forward is because 1) Someone at Baidu forgot to pay the monthly bribe to the goverment for protection or 2) someone was able to bribe the goverment with more money to allow the suit to go forward.
Honestly, my DSL service in China links straight to a movie download service. They are hundreds of movies and games that are all pirated versions and this is coming from the gov't run DSL service. Then there are the 4 stores selling pirated DVD's within sight of the local police station. So there is no way anyone in the gov't really cares about this issue right now. They are just posturing for the WTO. Maybe in the future.
for 18 months I can tell you the great firewall is a serious problem. Not only does it block news and political sites (as well as tons of other stuff that can only makes you say huh?) but the increased latency makes VoIP and IM quite spotty.
It slows down the entire internet outside of china, even if the website is not being blocked.
Even if you pay for a proxy server outside of China, this is a serious pain that impairs any Internet related business.
I will never buy Cisco products, or any other company that is involved in it.
Perhaps it would be better to boycott companies that are big buyers of Cisco products? This worked pretty well in Forcing the South African Aparteid Goverment to change.
Anyway, after living in China I am not convinced they are on their way to a huge bubble and collapse. Sure, I see tons of new buildings and businesses, but there are also tons of scams and empty buildings. I wonder if they will not soon overdevelop beyong their capacity to use? Well, I guess we will just see.
...we could just work together to solve the problem here on Earth?
BTW, has anyone considered the impact of reduced sunlight on agriculture?
I build a REST interface for an audio generation system at "http://mp3.motorola.com.cn:8080/composer" which is mod_perl2 on windows server 2003 and perl 5.8.6. It just works, not trouble.
I usually make a list of event codes to help ID the type of event or error and it's serverity. Then I make sure that whoever reads the log entry can find the line of code that generated the error.
....
For example, if I am coding in perl on apache I might have a handler called 'employees.pm'
sub add_employee
{
try { [something that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 1001 at employees.add_employee.100: Can't find the file $filename");
}
try { [something else that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 2001 at employees.add_employee.110: Bad ID of $ID assigned");
}
try { [something that generates an error]}
catch {
log("Error 1001 at employees.add_employee.120: Can't find the file $path/$somefile");
}
}
This way I can easy find exactly where in the code the error was generated. I can also create a cron to grep the log for certain type of error codes and SMS a warning to my mobile.
I'm sure there are perl modules that make it easier to do this, but I've been doing it this way for a while without trouble.
Sure, people will continue to use this phrase for a long time, but maybe saying it within a few days of a really terrible train wreck is very unsensitive to the victims. It's like when I was in NYC after 9/11 they decided not to play "Independence Day" on TV because some of those pictures might really upset people who already had been through a lot.
BTW, I think this is totally different from how Clearwater sent out a list of songs to ban if they mentioned the word peace. The first is just being sensitive to people who had just been through a terrible trama, while the second is a clear example of censorship in order to control the reaction to that event.
A few months later "Independence Day" was back on the TV.
I don't think it is PC to just be aware of things that are happening in the world and to people. It's not polite to stare at someones unluck, bad haircut either!
The problem is that US content providers suddenly realized that digital TV is easy to copy. So they put the brakes on developing for this until they make new digital TVs with a broadcast flag disabling copying (or so they think)
Of course, this screws all the people who already bought new digital TVs. At least, this in my understanding of the problem.
I don't think this deserves being modded troll. Maybe you don't agree with it, but this post is short and makes a reasonable point. Whoever modded it as troll should really defend his or her reason for doing that.
LOL, I was wondering the same thing! I live in the US and John Pertwee's Dr. Who was never as popular as Tom Baker, so I only saw that Episode once. But it did raise an interesting point that I don't think future writers ever investigated more, that being that idea that each point in history spawns a parallel universe(s) for every possible choice for that point.
:)
I always thought that episode was more about the unconscious fear of "what if the Nazi's had beaten us to a useful nuclear bomb?" just as the Darleks seemed to personify a type of latent cultural need to encode the Nazi era into an identifyable villian.
Anyway, I'm sure this will be modded down as 'can only be understood by another Dr Who Nerd"
First of all, for all you "Taxation without Representation" people, you need to read your US History and Tax law. You don't have a Constitutional right to have a vote in each locality where you pay some sort of tax or levy. The Founding Fathers understood that each State had to have to right to set taxes and levys without interference from the Federal Gov't. It's a states right's issue, part of the core idea of having a balance of power between federal, state and local gov't and private citizens.
The reason Colonists complained so much is that they were being excluded from any sort of representation, both at their home in the colonies, in the English Parliment, or in the English Courts. They had all the duties of a British Citizen and more, but none of the privileges. Here in the US you have many ways to get yourself represented.
For example, if your rights are stepped in in NYC by some aggressive policy officer, you can sue the City, no matter what state you are coming from. You can sue in city and state courts, or in many cases you can sue in Federal courts.
You can petition your federal representative to help you in an issue where you believe a state is stepping on your rights.
Additionally, you can choose to not deal with the State at all, just pick up and move to a place where things are more to your liking.
British Colonists had no such rights.
So Don't complain about Taxation without Representation.
If you work in NYC, whether you live there or not, you ARE using City services. You are riding subways and buses maintained by the city (the $2 per ride doesn't cover all the costs) and you are riding on roads in taxis being maintained by city workers. You are living in buildings that are inspected by city saftey officials. You are riding in elevators that have been reviewed by a city inspector. You are eating at places that have be checked by city health inspectors.
You are relying on City Police to enforce the law and protect you. If a crime is commited against you in NYC, you will find a host of people ready to help you and fight to find justice for you.
City firefighters will come to your rescue whether you are a city resident or an illegal alien. Just remember how many people that worked in the World Trade Center did not live in NYC. Yet hundreds of City workers laided down their lives on Sept 11, 2001 to try to save and help them.
NYC provides a business infrastructure that you can't just get by crossing the river to NJ. People come to NYC to get work done, and we have an incredible system working here to help.
NYC people are hard working and have a tremendous sense of community. NYC people know how to organize to get stuff done. We also have a ready pool of some of the most talented people in the world, in every possible field. If there is something or someone you need, you will be able to get it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Try finding that in Texas!
The truth here is that NYC is still hurting after 9/11, trying to balance it's budget and still offer essential services. A very small percentage of people are trying to selfishly squirm out of paying the same taxes that everyone who works in the city pays, and the courts said no to this behavior.
Since 9/11 and the War on Terror, NYC has had to shell out billions. Costs are high because we are still a number one target. We gladly do our part to help protect this country, but we need everyone to pitch in and pay their fair share of the costs.
If you work in NYC but live in NJ, you are crossing bridges or tunnels that are seen are prime terrorist targets. A lot of money goes to trying to protect those sites, which is directly protecting you.
Additionally, NYC spents money to protect landmark sites, such as the Statue of Libery and other places of national heritage.
Another truth is that those of you affect by this court case came to NYC to get work. I have to assume if you could get it where you live that you would do
So don't expect any NYC firefighters to come put their lives on the line to pull you from a burning building.
BTW, I doubt you have much to worry about, you don't pay city or state taxes unless your place of work is considered to be in NYC, as far as I know. I used to work for a big corp in NYC, and we had contractors working on projects for us but they lived in NJ and we just got the NJ office to cut the paychecks.
I've lived in NYC for 10 years. I can't see how it is possible that if you are making 150K per year (federal tax bracket averages out to about 25% or so) is going to be less than the 2-4% you pay in NYC (depending on the year, in general city taxes have been lowered year after year during the 1990's but slipped up again after the budget crisis that occurred after 9/11)
Maybe if you had a bunch of crazy deductions or something I suppose it is possible.
As far as 68% of your income going to income taxes, I can't see that either.
In 2003 I made 100K:
paid ~19K in federal Tax
paid ~6K in NY State Tax
Paid ~3K in NYC Taxes
I don't have a single deduction, excluding the personal deduction, so my tax percentages are a bit higher then most people in the US at my income level (most people in my income bracket are paying morgages, so they get to deduct that)
So I paid about 28% of my income to taxes.
How the hell di you get up to 68%! I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just wondering how you pay 40% more of your income in taxes.
Is there anyone who knows what this LLVM issue is about? Anyone out there who is not just ranting incoherently about RMS?