When people are candidly and honestly sharing their own experiences in public, in order to usefully contribute to a discussion, despite the fact they are admitting to illegal activites, the last thing they need is a do-gooder who has no idea what they're talking about coming in and criticising their behaviour.
Obeying rules works both ways - both police and students must obey the rules.
Compliance is NOT so critical that it is acceptable to taser people 5 times, in violation of their rights and the police's guidelines, and with excessive force.
You don't need to taser him even ONCE to subdue and cuff him tbh. there were 2 (or was it 3) police officers, who were extremely well built. There was no question that they could control the situation without resort to tasering, let alone repeated tasering.
Apart from the fact that the statement smacks of orwellian dystopia, it also shows that the administrator is ok with policemen assaulting his students on campus.
And guess what the administrator/vice-chancellor/whatever of the university said in a press statement shortly afterwards: "Compliance is critical for the safety and well-being of everyone."
Talking about images, I just thought of another possible peaceful action: everyone hold his mobile in front of him, even if the phone does not really have a camera, and say to the security people "we are filming you, please stop using violence"...
Yes that is an excellent solution, better than violence. Mod parent up!!
The acting vice-chancellor or whatever his position is gave a media statement shortly after the event: "Compliance is critical for the safety and well-being of everyone."
Are you not allowed to perform a citizen's arrest? That was clearly an assault, as the policemen went far beyond the force required to achieve their objective.
My first reaction upon watching that video was - why are these pussy students standing around and not preventing this happening? 2 or 3 students to restrain each police officer, and call some other police in to deal with it.
The students that are restraining the policemen could expect to be arrested when the other police turn up, but civil rights groups would be onto them when the word gets out.
£333/desktop if they had rolled out the full number of desktops.
Its not surprising that they spent a lot of money to achieve seemingly nothing - Birmingham City Council BOASTS all over the place that they are "the biggest employer in the West Midlands". Probably cos it takes 10 muppets to do the same job that 1 competent employee should be expected to do.
I would say the media is an unwitting propaganda machine but a propaganda machine no less. It is a (mostly) free media so there is no reason that any individual cannot use the media for their own propaganda...assuming they can fund their own publicity/marketing department. So the media devolves more or less to be the mouthpiece of those with money (power) - government and coporations.
Those points of view that do not have the resources to outshout other points of view do not get represented.
so how do you verify that the code on the encrypting microcontroller is the correct code? do you remove the microcontroller after the election and e.g. examine it with a Scanning Tunnellign Microscope to verify that it contains the appropriate circuitry and EPROM code thus destroying each voting machine?
Surely any vulnerabilities you could have with the operating microcontroller could also be present in the encrypting microcontroller?
Yes - let's just use mechanical systems where the weaknesses are well understood. Fcuking politicians should never advocate technological solutions to problems as by and large they don't have a fcuking clue.
If you know the source code of the software (including build options etc), and the compiler/linker versions that have been used to build it, it will be possible to prove whether or not the binary code on the machine was generated from the source code in front of you. To be more precise, you will be able to prove that the source code in front of you combined with those compiler/linker options generates the same binaries as exist on the machine. If your compilation does not generate the exact same binaries, then someone has some explaining to do. This is the advantage of OSS voting code - it allows independent verification of the process without requiring a huge amount of trust to be invested in any stage of the process.
The chap completely accepts that he took user contributed information, then locked it up in a private database. How is this setting the record straight? He has explained his motivation for doing so, but the fact is he still took the user contributions to build his product. He had no moral right to do this. Once you are accepting contributions from users, you have to accept that users feel a sense of ownership and entitlement. Many years ago (while I was still at school in fact) I put the effort to type in some early drum'n'bass cds into this public database, in return for the effort it saved me. I never thought for one second that some chap would start charging for access to this information and I certainly wouldn't have bothered typing any information in had I known it would become a commercial outfit within a couple of years. If only I could remember the cds that I entered into the database, then I could demand that Gracenote remove my info from the database.
So just when the world may be starting to awaken to the decreasing viability of our environment/ecosystem/biosphere, we are now giving the greenlight to pollution of the surrounding space. And how much space rubbish must burn up in the outer atmosphere before that starts getting unbalanced?
Encryption available on all protocols without having to implement special for it (i.e. not in the transport layer not the application layer). https would be obsolete
With respect to A) the population is considered to be (based on the Kazakh government census from 1999) 47% Muslim and 44% (Russian Orthodox) Christian, so I don't think "ridiculing Muslims" is necessarily a strong motivation for him as a Jew. There are much more Islamic countries nearby that he could have picked on, for example Turkmenistan is 89% Muslim.
Making an assumption that Kazakhstan is full of Muslims seems to be typical of the attitudes Cohen delights in highlighting.;)
Maybe the exact reason he's so successful is that those who understand what he's getting at laugh at his mockery of western culture, and those who don't understand laugh at his crude eastern stereotype.
Personally I don't think he could make his point (if he has one) any clearer.
Basically the main argument in this article seems to be something along the lines of "The Arabs and Muslims kill each other a lot, so why do people care so much about Israel killing Arabs and Muslims". I don't consider that argument to have any moral legitimacy.
Back to the America question, some recent polls have been carried out which make interesting reading:
Slashdot Mirror
When people are candidly and honestly sharing their own experiences in public, in order to usefully contribute to a discussion, despite the fact they are admitting to illegal activites, the last thing they need is a do-gooder who has no idea what they're talking about coming in and criticising their behaviour.
Go back under your rock.
Obeying rules works both ways - both police and students must obey the rules.
Compliance is NOT so critical that it is acceptable to taser people 5 times, in violation of their rights and the police's guidelines, and with excessive force.
You don't need to taser him even ONCE to subdue and cuff him tbh. there were 2 (or was it 3) police officers, who were extremely well built. There was no question that they could control the situation without resort to tasering, let alone repeated tasering.
Apart from the fact that the statement smacks of orwellian dystopia, it also shows that the administrator is ok with policemen assaulting his students on campus.
And guess what the administrator/vice-chancellor/whatever of the university said in a press statement shortly afterwards:
"Compliance is critical for the safety and well-being of everyone."
Talking about images, I just thought of another possible peaceful action: everyone hold his mobile in front of him, even if the phone does not really have a camera, and say to the security people "we are filming you, please stop using violence"...
Yes that is an excellent solution, better than violence. Mod parent up!!
The acting vice-chancellor or whatever his position is gave a media statement shortly after the event: "Compliance is critical for the safety and well-being of everyone."
That scares the shit out of me tbh.
Are you not allowed to perform a citizen's arrest? That was clearly an assault, as the policemen went far beyond the force required to achieve their objective.
My first reaction upon watching that video was - why are these pussy students standing around and not preventing this happening? 2 or 3 students to restrain each police officer, and call some other police in to deal with it.
The students that are restraining the policemen could expect to be arrested when the other police turn up, but civil rights groups would be onto them when the word gets out.
haha loser troll.
half the workforce there is on long-term sick leave! I never saw anybody working hard in any department I temped in either
£333/desktop if they had rolled out the full number of desktops.
Its not surprising that they spent a lot of money to achieve seemingly nothing - Birmingham City Council BOASTS all over the place that they are "the biggest employer in the West Midlands". Probably cos it takes 10 muppets to do the same job that 1 competent employee should be expected to do.
ok agreed :)
How he sounds doesn't make it any less true...
I would say the media is an unwitting propaganda machine but a propaganda machine no less. It is a (mostly) free media so there is no reason that any individual cannot use the media for their own propaganda...assuming they can fund their own publicity/marketing department. So the media devolves more or less to be the mouthpiece of those with money (power) - government and coporations.
Those points of view that do not have the resources to outshout other points of view do not get represented.
So concern about pollution is now considered trolling?
fuck you america
so how do you verify that the code on the encrypting microcontroller is the correct code? do you remove the microcontroller after the election and e.g. examine it with a Scanning Tunnellign Microscope to verify that it contains the appropriate circuitry and EPROM code thus destroying each voting machine?
Surely any vulnerabilities you could have with the operating microcontroller could also be present in the encrypting microcontroller?
Yes - let's just use mechanical systems where the weaknesses are well understood. Fcuking politicians should never advocate technological solutions to problems as by and large they don't have a fcuking clue.
The MD5 of the binary being used must be somehow used as a key to encode the votes.
Despite my position above, how are you going to prevent a malicious binary using the MD5 of the correct binary to encode the votes?
If you know the source code of the software (including build options etc), and the compiler/linker versions that have been used to build it, it will be possible to prove whether or not the binary code on the machine was generated from the source code in front of you.
To be more precise, you will be able to prove that the source code in front of you combined with those compiler/linker options generates the same binaries as exist on the machine. If your compilation does not generate the exact same binaries, then someone has some explaining to do.
This is the advantage of OSS voting code - it allows independent verification of the process without requiring a huge amount of trust to be invested in any stage of the process.
The chap completely accepts that he took user contributed information, then locked it up in a private database. How is this setting the record straight? He has explained his motivation for doing so, but the fact is he still took the user contributions to build his product. He had no moral right to do this. Once you are accepting contributions from users, you have to accept that users feel a sense of ownership and entitlement. Many years ago (while I was still at school in fact) I put the effort to type in some early drum'n'bass cds into this public database, in return for the effort it saved me. I never thought for one second that some chap would start charging for access to this information and I certainly wouldn't have bothered typing any information in had I known it would become a commercial outfit within a couple of years. If only I could remember the cds that I entered into the database, then I could demand that Gracenote remove my info from the database.
This is why GPL license > BSD license.
So just when the world may be starting to awaken to the decreasing viability of our environment/ecosystem/biosphere, we are now giving the greenlight to pollution of the surrounding space. And how much space rubbish must burn up in the outer atmosphere before that starts getting unbalanced?
have you read http://www.rdos.net/wiki/index.php/Neanderthal_the ory / http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm ?
I'm not sure if I agree but still its interesting.
4s seems remarkably high!
I get frustrated by a delay of even 1s.
Encryption available on all protocols without having to implement special for it (i.e. not in the transport layer not the application layer). https would be obsolete
With respect to A) the population is considered to be (based on the Kazakh government census from 1999) 47% Muslim and 44% (Russian Orthodox) Christian, so I don't think "ridiculing Muslims" is necessarily a strong motivation for him as a Jew. There are much more Islamic countries nearby that he could have picked on, for example Turkmenistan is 89% Muslim.
;)
Making an assumption that Kazakhstan is full of Muslims seems to be typical of the attitudes Cohen delights in highlighting.
Maybe the exact reason he's so successful is that those who understand what he's getting at laugh at his mockery of western culture, and those who don't understand laugh at his crude eastern stereotype.
Personally I don't think he could make his point (if he has one) any clearer.
mass hysteria
Basically the main argument in this article seems to be something along the lines of "The Arabs and Muslims kill each other a lot, so why do people care so much about Israel killing Arabs and Muslims". I don't consider that argument to have any moral legitimacy.
h reat-than-kim-jongil-poll/2006/11/03/1162340050262 .html
Back to the America question, some recent polls have been carried out which make interesting reading:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/bush-bigger-t