The only reason these people are SHOCKED that evolution is in the curriculum is because they believe everything taught in schools should be 100% true, always and forever, and actually believe such an idea exists.
Please clarify. Have you denied that real truth exists? If so, I remind you of a common sense phrase:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away".
I am not convinced that one world government is necessary to set reasonable standards for science education in the US. On what basis do you believe that it is?
So if one day it _does_ become necessary, will you support it?
Anyway, I could understand federal educational standardization for "hard" sciences and arts such as Mathematics, Physics and Biology. The competent scientists are almost unanimous regarding these, and I see not reason to think they are biased.
But History and Geography curricula must be designed at the state level, because they are (unfortunately) highly politicized, and it is utterly unacceptable to impose federal politics on the states.
So maybe we two can reach a compromise, yes? Just keep your federal hands outside History, Geography, Philosphy, etc.
There aren't any advantages over xubuntu other than not dealing with cannonocial, and I just wanted to give it a try. Had an HDD failure awhile back, (primary./ volume) so I had to reinstall anyway. Just wanted to explore the landscape more.
What is the problem with Canonical? Slashdotters did not like Unity, but Ubuntu still has XFCE, LXDE, KDE and other options. They are now working on GNOBuntu, a full Gnome (with the Gnome Shell and everything) flavor of Gnome.
And I like Unity just fine. Ubuntu is still the number 1 distribution*, which suggests that the Ubuntu-hatred is a Slashdot thing.
Fortunately, even with the last president, the country resisted turning into the full-fledged theocracy so many of his supporters wanted.
Do you have solid sources for your alegation that many GOP supporters wanted theocracy?
Sure, he gave away a few tens of billions of dollars of our tax money to specific churches, which was bad and wrong, but not nearly as bad as forcing teenage rape victims to marry their rapists and stoning gays to death like these people promote in other more theocratic countries.
The fact that you have to change the subject to Islamist theocracy says a lot.
The old "Christian"* theocracies ended many centuries ago, so Americans who fear of "theocracy" are forced to speak of Iran and Saudi Arabia... which simply aren't applicable to America.
* I put "Christian" under quotes because authentic Christianity is against theocracy; "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".
Yes I want standards for teaching children about science to be set by scientists, not by religious cranks. If that requires top down control, then that's a strong argument for top down control
You want top down control. Why does it end at the federal level? By your logic, we should have a one-world government.
Your concerns would be solved by strenghtening federalism. Let laws be created at the state level, and let the federal government be concerned with foreign releations, the armed forces and standardizing the currency, like it was originally.
Sorry, hillbillies. We're not making a separate test for you just because you're a bunch of bible-thumping idiots.
I myself believe in evolution, but I disagree with your disrespect above. Please remember that respect applies to both sides. If you claim creationists to be "hillbily" and "idiots", then you cannot complain if someone calls homosexuals to be "fags".
I see no problem with some corporation being associated with the project. If there are reasonable rules, and if the project has a reasonably open governance, corporate help is welcome.
To an extent it's fine, but the corporation usually ends up steering the project to some extent. For instance is Ubuntu more community-driven or Cononical driven?
Since it is open source, we can always fork it. And normally the fear of forks will stop the corporation from acting too badly - doing evil to open source software does not pay.
In the case of Canonical, we have an additional assurance: it is a private company, which does not have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits. It was founded by Mark Shuttleworth, who is a nice guy and was a Debian Developer.
In the case of Ubuntu, the "evil" was selecting Unity as default. However, Xfce, LXDE, KDE and others are still available, and they are working on GNOBuntu (with the full Gnome, including the Gnome Shell). Despite the hate you see on Slashdot, Ubuntu is still the number 1 distribution - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Installed_base.
And, personally, I use Unity and like it just fine.
... then your school should be teaching kids how to use the Internet safely. There just isn't any technology that will protect your kids from everything they might do wrong.
I suppose you have to block sites that would offend parents (though the kids probably know all about them) but relying on filtering software to keep your kids safe is abdicating the school's responsibility
Kids aren't responsible enough for that. It makes sense to set up filters at home, and asking the school to do the same.
It's one of the very few distros that are based solely on donations and have no private corporation behind them.
I see no problem with some corporation being associated with the project. If there are reasonable rules, and if the project has a reasonably open governance, corporate help is welcome.
I can't properly express how bewildered I am that a South American country is having to demonstrate a recognition of basic human rights to two European countries.
Oh please. Ecuador is deeply anti-American. It is offering asylum to Assange only for that reason. If Assange had leaked Ecuadorian diplomatic cables, I assure you that Ecuador would be foaming at the mouth with hate. And would imprison Assange if they got the chance.
The consequence for breaking that assurance would be to seriously disrupt the USA chance of getting future extraditions from Europe.
Whether that consequence happens depends on the Swedish authorities.
Not just Sweden, but the whole Europe. If the USA lied to Sweden, then it would get less chance of getting any future extradition from Europe; and possibly other parts of the world too.
Why did you abandon Ubuntu? For the archs that both support, I don't see any advantage Debian has over Ubuntu.
Yes, Debian stable is extremely stable. But it is only supported for three years or so, and the packages in it come already obsolete. For both of these reasons, you are forced to upgrade to a new Debian version within months after its release.
Ubuntu LTS, on the other hand, comes with updated packages and is supported for 5 years. For both these reasons, you can easily wait for the second point release (9 months after the LTS release) before you upgrade; it will be rock solid and be supported by 4 years and 3 months.
As long as ads are discreet (no "punch the monkey" stunts, no attention-killing animations) and don't waste too much bandwidth, I'm fine with them. I don't use AdBlock. I want the sites I love to be economically viable.
Human engineering is bad not only because of intrinsic moral problems, but also because it would lead to societal catastrophe. Imagine multiple countries engaging in supersoldier arms race.
And you believed them? All it takes is an assurance on the part of the US that the death penalty won't be sought, and Sweden can legally extradite to the US. And there are no consequences for breaching that assurance.
The consequence for breaking that assurance would be to seriously disrupt the USA chance of getting future extraditions from Europe.
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Please clarify. Have you denied that real truth exists? If so, I remind you of a common sense phrase:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away".
So if one day it _does_ become necessary, will you support it?
Anyway, I could understand federal educational standardization for "hard" sciences and arts such as Mathematics, Physics and Biology. The competent scientists are almost unanimous regarding these, and I see not reason to think they are biased.
But History and Geography curricula must be designed at the state level, because they are (unfortunately) highly politicized, and it is utterly unacceptable to impose federal politics on the states.
So maybe we two can reach a compromise, yes? Just keep your federal hands outside History, Geography, Philosphy, etc.
What is the problem with Canonical?
Slashdotters did not like Unity, but Ubuntu still has XFCE, LXDE, KDE and other options. They are now working on GNOBuntu, a full Gnome (with the Gnome Shell and everything) flavor of Gnome.
And I like Unity just fine. Ubuntu is still the number 1 distribution*, which suggests that the Ubuntu-hatred is a Slashdot thing.
* See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Installed_base
Do you have solid sources for your alegation that many GOP supporters wanted theocracy?
The fact that you have to change the subject to Islamist theocracy says a lot.
The old "Christian"* theocracies ended many centuries ago, so Americans who fear of "theocracy" are forced to speak of Iran and Saudi Arabia... which simply aren't applicable to America.
* I put "Christian" under quotes because authentic Christianity is against theocracy; "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".
See http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ratzinger2.html
PS: No, linking to lewrockwell.com does not make me a Libertarian. I just agree with that particular essay.
You want top down control. Why does it end at the federal level? By your logic, we should have a one-world government.
Your concerns would be solved by strenghtening federalism.
Let laws be created at the state level, and let the federal government be concerned with foreign releations, the armed forces and standardizing the currency, like it was originally.
I myself believe in evolution, but I disagree with your disrespect above.
Please remember that respect applies to both sides. If you claim creationists to be "hillbily" and "idiots", then you cannot complain if someone calls homosexuals to be "fags".
As wrong as it is let's respect people, yes?
How can the above comment be described as against Slashdot comment guidelines?
This is moderation abuse. People who disagree with me should reply, instead of down-modding.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history
Since it is open source, we can always fork it. And normally the fear of forks will stop the corporation from acting too badly - doing evil to open source software does not pay.
In the case of Canonical, we have an additional assurance: it is a private company, which does not have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits. It was founded by Mark Shuttleworth, who is a nice guy and was a Debian Developer.
In the case of Ubuntu, the "evil" was selecting Unity as default. However, Xfce, LXDE, KDE and others are still available, and they are working on GNOBuntu (with the full Gnome, including the Gnome Shell). Despite the hate you see on Slashdot, Ubuntu is still the number 1 distribution - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Installed_base.
And, personally, I use Unity and like it just fine.
Thank you for the clarification.
Combining filtering and education makes sense.
Kids aren't responsible enough for that. It makes sense to set up filters at home, and asking the school to do the same.
I see no problem with some corporation being associated with the project. If there are reasonable rules, and if the project has a reasonably open governance, corporate help is welcome.
Oh please. Ecuador is deeply anti-American. It is offering asylum to Assange only for that reason.
If Assange had leaked Ecuadorian diplomatic cables, I assure you that Ecuador would be foaming at the mouth with hate. And would imprison Assange if they got the chance.
Not just Sweden, but the whole Europe. If the USA lied to Sweden, then it would get less chance of getting any future extradition from Europe; and possibly other parts of the world too.
Why did you abandon Ubuntu?
For the archs that both support, I don't see any advantage Debian has over Ubuntu.
Yes, Debian stable is extremely stable. But it is only supported for three years or so, and the packages in it come already obsolete. For both of these reasons, you are forced to upgrade to a new Debian version within months after its release.
Ubuntu LTS, on the other hand, comes with updated packages and is supported for 5 years. For both these reasons, you can easily wait for the second point release (9 months after the LTS release) before you upgrade; it will be rock solid and be supported by 4 years and 3 months.
As long as ads are discreet (no "punch the monkey" stunts, no attention-killing animations) and don't waste too much bandwidth, I'm fine with them.
I don't use AdBlock. I want the sites I love to be economically viable.
See my other answer to this.
The common sense one.
Except that he could talk to other people during his "solitary" confinement.
See http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3052779&cid=41016389
Sources?
No yellow press (Huffington included) please. I want Reuters, AP, or something equally or more trustworthy.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_manning#Complaints_about_detention.2C_move_to_another_jail
Calling it "torture" abuses the word "torture". This is like calling a verbal sexual harassment ("nice legs!") as "rape".
It is simply dishonest.
Human engineering is bad not only because of intrinsic moral problems, but also because it would lead to societal catastrophe. Imagine multiple countries engaging in supersoldier arms race.
The consequence for breaking that assurance would be to seriously disrupt the USA chance of getting future extraditions from Europe.