You are not paying attention. Seriously. Apple and Google are getting worse and worse, but Microsoft has in fact been improving significantly over the past few years. Please note that the linking of your online and desktop personalities in the BETA (that nobody is paying for) is being removed in the RTM. As stated in the FAQ and in the TFA.
For the morons who can't RTFA nor the RTFAQ, the "mandatory" Microsoft Account link is for the beta, and for the beta only. It will not be there for the RTM. If you can not understand why Microsoft would want to keep an eye out for what you do when you sign up as a free beta tester with them, then you are a moron. Every single piece of beta software I have ever been part of building, was teeming with monitoring functionality, its the f*cking point of having a beta.
I'm healthier, which lowers my impact on the healthcare system
Ah, that's not true. In fact, the people with the lowest impact on the health care system are obese, smoking alcoholics who die of a heart attack in their early to mid 50s. The vast majority (70% for most) of health care cost come after you are quite old. Getting old (which requires you to be somewhat healthy) is by far the most damaging thing you can do to the health care system.
Pizza, Coke, Beer, Marlboros. It's for society man. Stand up and do your duty.Die.
If all personal vehicles were converted to EVs overnight, and the grid automagically adapted to support it, the amount of CO2 released would perhaps (on a good day) drop by half a percent. Looking at personal transportation and conversion to EVs is moronic.
Word wide, personal transportation contributes some 7% of all CO2 emissions (all transportation is about 14%, private transportation about half, a little more in the US). That's a whopping 3-4% of all CO2 emissions. Going from petroleum to EV is going to cut emissions by some 10% or so (a little more in the US since the US uses bigger cars than the rest of the world on average). Either way, and in best-case scenarios, we are looking at 1% or less of a reduction in emissions. That is statistically equal to zero. It's a rounding error.
Talking about targeting personal cars to reduce CO2 emissions is moronic and idiotic and counter-productive. That's one of the reasons people have little respect for the environuts. Target power production, then industrial production and finally agricultural production. That's how you reduce CO2 emissions.
World-wide, transportation (all of it, planes, trains, boats, buses, trucks and private vehicles) account for about 14% of green house gases. Personal transportation is less than half of that. Talking about personal transportation as a tool to combat green house gases is moronic idiocy, and anyone doing so has disqualified him self from rational debate on the topic.
We need to fix electricity generation first. Then industrial emissions, later agricultural emissions. If we can do that properly we'd cut emissions by 50-75% and talking about transportation becomes moot.
I can't imagine where you could live and see only five minutes without power per year.
Lived in Marina Del Rey (CA) for ten years. Had zero multi-minute outs, and hardly any, perhaps three to five that lasted a few seconds. It helped not to be a hostage of PG&E though. LA does it's own power stuff.
I just randomly picked Linux as a search item in Google News. It could have been anything. Almost everything you read in a publication was "sold" to that publication by a PR professional. Did you think journalists actually spent time researching and finding out stuff on their own? Honestly, if it wasn't sold by a PR agency, you probably never heard about it.
Could you mention a flaw that is not related to running metro apps? I mean, if you run metro apps, your friends I mean, you are too stupid to operate anything more tecnincally advanced than a 1980s Timex calcualtor watch. So, what are the flaws? We've covered the start menu, which is easily fixed. Metro apps are not relevant. What are the flaws?
People always whine when you move their cheese. They did when XP was released (what kind of Fisher Price shit GUI is this), they did when Vista was released, the even whined when Win7 was released (where is all the glorious bling I loved from my beloved XP and Vista). People whine when you move their cheese.
Fun fact: XP had a slower up-take than Win8 has, and people whined every bit as much about XP as they do about Win8.
In order to make any operating system I use not suck, I have to add third party tools. This goes for the Ubuntu installation I use for jBoss development, it goes for Win XP, Win 7 and Win 8, it goes for iOS on my iPad and for WP8 on my Nokia 920. In that, Windows 8 is no different from any other operating system.
I just don't get the incessant WHINING we have heard from the anti-Windows 8 crowd just because Microsoft moved your cheese a thousands of an inch. Honestly, the only reason people are bitching and moaning about the lack of a start menu in Windows 8 is because it is fashionable to so. You are all a bunch of pizzing, moaning and whining lemmings unable to form opinions on your own.
or you're as mentally deficient as the "UX" jerkoffs that think a tablet interface on a desktop is anything other than the most brain-meltingly stupid "innovation" of the last decade
Another Windows 8 user here. Running mostly Visual Studio, Eclipse and Adobe CS 6. I am 100% on the desktop. I have installed Start 8, but could have used any of the free stuff too.
So, since you think Windows 8 is bad for the desktop, could you enumerate the ways it is different from Windows 7? Again, just staying on the desktop. Hell, forget about enumeration. Just give me one example of how it is different in such a way that it matters to anyone i day-to-day use. One thing.
Betcha you have never used Windows 8 and therefore have no answer. Betcha you are just another lemming mouthing off the same bullshit one of your religious leaders has spouted and that you have swallowed no questions asked. It's sad really, that the world has changed so. Now it is the Linux/FOSS people that have gone all Lemming in the head.
Serious question. How does it suck? I use Start8 to get a Start menu. I never use Metro apps, they all suck, so why would I? I also do not engage in self flagellation. Why would I? It hurts. This means I stay 100% within the desktop - though, I'll admit, I have some Metro apps installed (but do not open them) and they populate the Start screen with "at-a-glance information". I some times, but quite rarely these days, the novelty's worn off, glance at the start screen just to pick up some of this info (weather, stocks, news). But other than the occasional glance, Windows 8 looks, acts, behaves, works exactly like Windows 7. If Windows 8 sucks on the desktop, so does Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP and Windows 2000.
So, if you don't like it (I hate it) why the FUCK are you DUMB enough to use "Modern UI" apps? I am sorry for the twice four letters, but is someone forcing you? I've been running Windows 8 since some time early this year. I never run Metro apps? Why would I, they are crap apps, they do not overlap properly (though you could always fix that too, Stardock has a tool that allows you to run Metro apps in a window, but then again, why run the metro apps?), they do not contain much useful functionality. They are simply a waste of space, time and $$$s.
I do have some metro apps installed, mind you, the live-update tiles are nice for "information at a glance", but I probably haven't "glanced" in a few weeks. To me, Windows 8 behaves, runs (albeit a little faster) and looks exactly like Windows 7.
Please list all the "serious flaws" you see when running Windows 8 in desktop mode. Name ONE SINGLE thing you don't have that you had in Win7, Vista or XP. Just one.
They'd be completely lost without the modal dialog box, an invention they must hold the patent to because I've never seen it on any other operating system
I am sorry for your long-term blindness and/or complete lack of exposure to computers. Is there anything we/I can do to help?
Except, of course, all those things are tied to Windows programming model
Not really, no. VS2012 with ASP.NET MVC/Nancy is reasonably close in "joy" to Ruby/Rails/Sinatra as a web development platform, and for me a very decent number two for this (Ruby being number one if that was unclear). There is nothing "Windows programming model" about that. Also, the cost for Microsoft to port the XAML/C#/MSIL stuff to other platforms would probably also be quite low, and again, there is nothing "Windows programming model" over XAML/C#/MSIL either. In fact, XAML/C#/MSIL is basically "Java the way Java could have been had it not been murdered by incompetent committee BS" (TM).
The only thing keeping M$ going is majority typical end user, 'LAZINESS'
What a lot of clueless drivel. In the Enterprise Microsoft is not number one because IT staff is lazy (or bad). They are #1 because they have some very nice, and at times fucking awsome products. Sure, nothing is perfect, but the mix that MS currently supplies to the Enterprise is, for the vast majority of enterprise, unparallelled in both quality and features.
Remember, this has not "always" been true. Novell and IBM once ruled part of that world, MS eventually beat them with a better product. Word Perfect etc held a tight grip on their end of the world, but started selling pure shit and calling it "our way". MS beat them on usability (WP for Windows was/is a horrid piece of shit).
if the OEMs in their race to the bottom continue their die off
This description of reality is only partly true. Yes, some of them are, but others, like Lenovo, actually produce excellent stuff, and are not in a downward trend by any measure. The problem with OEMs is that they have been pushing out shit products, and now they are paying for it. With the Surface (thinking about the Pro now) Microsoft challenged them to do better. Some of them, again like Lenovo, did. The others are going to be gone soon, and good riddance.
The problem is that Apple makes more than that off just the iPhone.
The problem with that is that people (outside of a few fanatics) have very close to zero loyalty to their phone. Players who once dominated the phone market are gone or in serious trouble. That could easily happen for Apple too. The reason is quite basic, I am not heavily invested in my iPad (mini) nor was I in my iPhone back when I still used it. Apps are a dime a dozen, a huge portion free. If the apps are there on an alternate and at any point in time more popular platform, people will jump.
I am heavily invested in my PC though. Obviously I have more software than most, but I pay several thousands of $$$ for software for my PC and I am therefore highly unlikely to switch to a Mac whenever I upgrade next.
In Canada (75%), France (89%) and Norway (100%), at least, that is not true
You are correct, in those three countries (and Japan to a degree) it is not true, but in the world as such, it most certainly is. Also, however, in those three countries, it is also mostly true. The max effect you can get of targeting private cars is 6-7%. That is quite a lot total, but insignificant compared to what you can do by making other industries better.
No matter what way you look at it, targeting something that can yield a maximum improvement between zero and seven percent is moronic.
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BZZZT! WRONG! RTFA!
You are not paying attention. Seriously. Apple and Google are getting worse and worse, but Microsoft has in fact been improving significantly over the past few years. Please note that the linking of your online and desktop personalities in the BETA (that nobody is paying for) is being removed in the RTM. As stated in the FAQ and in the TFA.
For the morons who can't RTFA nor the RTFAQ, the "mandatory" Microsoft Account link is for the beta, and for the beta only. It will not be there for the RTM. If you can not understand why Microsoft would want to keep an eye out for what you do when you sign up as a free beta tester with them, then you are a moron. Every single piece of beta software I have ever been part of building, was teeming with monitoring functionality, its the f*cking point of having a beta.
I'm healthier, which lowers my impact on the healthcare system
Ah, that's not true. In fact, the people with the lowest impact on the health care system are obese, smoking alcoholics who die of a heart attack in their early to mid 50s. The vast majority (70% for most) of health care cost come after you are quite old. Getting old (which requires you to be somewhat healthy) is by far the most damaging thing you can do to the health care system.
Pizza, Coke, Beer, Marlboros. It's for society man. Stand up and do your duty.Die.
If all personal vehicles were converted to EVs overnight, and the grid automagically adapted to support it, the amount of CO2 released would perhaps (on a good day) drop by half a percent. Looking at personal transportation and conversion to EVs is moronic.
Word wide, personal transportation contributes some 7% of all CO2 emissions (all transportation is about 14%, private transportation about half, a little more in the US). That's a whopping 3-4% of all CO2 emissions. Going from petroleum to EV is going to cut emissions by some 10% or so (a little more in the US since the US uses bigger cars than the rest of the world on average). Either way, and in best-case scenarios, we are looking at 1% or less of a reduction in emissions. That is statistically equal to zero. It's a rounding error.
Talking about targeting personal cars to reduce CO2 emissions is moronic and idiotic and counter-productive. That's one of the reasons people have little respect for the environuts. Target power production, then industrial production and finally agricultural production. That's how you reduce CO2 emissions.
World-wide, transportation (all of it, planes, trains, boats, buses, trucks and private vehicles) account for about 14% of green house gases. Personal transportation is less than half of that. Talking about personal transportation as a tool to combat green house gases is moronic idiocy, and anyone doing so has disqualified him self from rational debate on the topic.
We need to fix electricity generation first. Then industrial emissions, later agricultural emissions. If we can do that properly we'd cut emissions by 50-75% and talking about transportation becomes moot.
Clueless drivel.
There are three boxes to defend against a totalitarian government.
Since the two first boxes do not work, and the third has some serious complications attached, perhaps we need to find some new boxes.
Move to LA, get out from the claws of PG&E.
I can't imagine where you could live and see only five minutes without power per year.
Lived in Marina Del Rey (CA) for ten years. Had zero multi-minute outs, and hardly any, perhaps three to five that lasted a few seconds. It helped not to be a hostage of PG&E though. LA does it's own power stuff.
Loss leader as in it costs more to make than they sell it for.
Does it hurt to be as ignorant as you are, or does the ignorance come with some sort of pain-reducing features of its own?
What is PR.
Some news articles that would probably not exist without PR professionals:
http://www.informationweek.com/global-cio/trends/how-linux-foundation-runs-its-virtual-of/240156624
http://www.eweek.com/servers/ibm-to-support-linux-kvm-virtualization-on-power-systems/
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Linux-Mint-15-A-better-Ubuntu-for-the-desktop-1873682.html
I just randomly picked Linux as a search item in Google News. It could have been anything. Almost everything you read in a publication was "sold" to that publication by a PR professional. Did you think journalists actually spent time researching and finding out stuff on their own? Honestly, if it wasn't sold by a PR agency, you probably never heard about it.
Could you mention a flaw that is not related to running metro apps? I mean, if you run metro apps, your friends I mean, you are too stupid to operate anything more tecnincally advanced than a 1980s Timex calcualtor watch. So, what are the flaws? We've covered the start menu, which is easily fixed. Metro apps are not relevant. What are the flaws?
Well, enough people whined
People always whine when you move their cheese. They did when XP was released (what kind of Fisher Price shit GUI is this), they did when Vista was released, the even whined when Win7 was released (where is all the glorious bling I loved from my beloved XP and Vista). People whine when you move their cheese.
Fun fact: XP had a slower up-take than Win8 has, and people whined every bit as much about XP as they do about Win8.
In order to make any operating system I use not suck, I have to add third party tools. This goes for the Ubuntu installation I use for jBoss development, it goes for Win XP, Win 7 and Win 8, it goes for iOS on my iPad and for WP8 on my Nokia 920. In that, Windows 8 is no different from any other operating system.
I just don't get the incessant WHINING we have heard from the anti-Windows 8 crowd just because Microsoft moved your cheese a thousands of an inch. Honestly, the only reason people are bitching and moaning about the lack of a start menu in Windows 8 is because it is fashionable to so. You are all a bunch of pizzing, moaning and whining lemmings unable to form opinions on your own.
or you're as mentally deficient as the "UX" jerkoffs that think a tablet interface on a desktop is anything other than the most brain-meltingly stupid "innovation" of the last decade
Another Windows 8 user here. Running mostly Visual Studio, Eclipse and Adobe CS 6. I am 100% on the desktop. I have installed Start 8, but could have used any of the free stuff too.
So, since you think Windows 8 is bad for the desktop, could you enumerate the ways it is different from Windows 7? Again, just staying on the desktop. Hell, forget about enumeration. Just give me one example of how it is different in such a way that it matters to anyone i day-to-day use. One thing.
Betcha you have never used Windows 8 and therefore have no answer. Betcha you are just another lemming mouthing off the same bullshit one of your religious leaders has spouted and that you have swallowed no questions asked. It's sad really, that the world has changed so. Now it is the Linux/FOSS people that have gone all Lemming in the head.
And there, it sucks
Serious question. How does it suck? I use Start8 to get a Start menu. I never use Metro apps, they all suck, so why would I? I also do not engage in self flagellation. Why would I? It hurts. This means I stay 100% within the desktop - though, I'll admit, I have some Metro apps installed (but do not open them) and they populate the Start screen with "at-a-glance information". I some times, but quite rarely these days, the novelty's worn off, glance at the start screen just to pick up some of this info (weather, stocks, news). But other than the occasional glance, Windows 8 looks, acts, behaves, works exactly like Windows 7. If Windows 8 sucks on the desktop, so does Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP and Windows 2000.
So, if you don't like it (I hate it) why the FUCK are you DUMB enough to use "Modern UI" apps? I am sorry for the twice four letters, but is someone forcing you? I've been running Windows 8 since some time early this year. I never run Metro apps? Why would I, they are crap apps, they do not overlap properly (though you could always fix that too, Stardock has a tool that allows you to run Metro apps in a window, but then again, why run the metro apps?), they do not contain much useful functionality. They are simply a waste of space, time and $$$s.
I do have some metro apps installed, mind you, the live-update tiles are nice for "information at a glance", but I probably haven't "glanced" in a few weeks. To me, Windows 8 behaves, runs (albeit a little faster) and looks exactly like Windows 7.
Please list all the "serious flaws" you see when running Windows 8 in desktop mode. Name ONE SINGLE thing you don't have that you had in Win7, Vista or XP. Just one.
They'd be completely lost without the modal dialog box, an invention they must hold the patent to because I've never seen it on any other operating system
I am sorry for your long-term blindness and/or complete lack of exposure to computers. Is there anything we/I can do to help?
Except, of course, all those things are tied to Windows programming model
Not really, no. VS2012 with ASP.NET MVC/Nancy is reasonably close in "joy" to Ruby/Rails/Sinatra as a web development platform, and for me a very decent number two for this (Ruby being number one if that was unclear). There is nothing "Windows programming model" about that. Also, the cost for Microsoft to port the XAML/C#/MSIL stuff to other platforms would probably also be quite low, and again, there is nothing "Windows programming model" over XAML/C#/MSIL either. In fact, XAML/C#/MSIL is basically "Java the way Java could have been had it not been murdered by incompetent committee BS" (TM).
Seems like they are going all-out to copy Windows 8, so it might be :-)
The only thing keeping M$ going is majority typical end user, 'LAZINESS'
What a lot of clueless drivel. In the Enterprise Microsoft is not number one because IT staff is lazy (or bad). They are #1 because they have some very nice, and at times fucking awsome products. Sure, nothing is perfect, but the mix that MS currently supplies to the Enterprise is, for the vast majority of enterprise, unparallelled in both quality and features.
Remember, this has not "always" been true. Novell and IBM once ruled part of that world, MS eventually beat them with a better product. Word Perfect etc held a tight grip on their end of the world, but started selling pure shit and calling it "our way". MS beat them on usability (WP for Windows was/is a horrid piece of shit).
if the OEMs in their race to the bottom continue their die off
This description of reality is only partly true. Yes, some of them are, but others, like Lenovo, actually produce excellent stuff, and are not in a downward trend by any measure. The problem with OEMs is that they have been pushing out shit products, and now they are paying for it. With the Surface (thinking about the Pro now) Microsoft challenged them to do better. Some of them, again like Lenovo, did. The others are going to be gone soon, and good riddance.
The problem is that Apple makes more than that off just the iPhone.
The problem with that is that people (outside of a few fanatics) have very close to zero loyalty to their phone. Players who once dominated the phone market are gone or in serious trouble. That could easily happen for Apple too. The reason is quite basic, I am not heavily invested in my iPad (mini) nor was I in my iPhone back when I still used it. Apps are a dime a dozen, a huge portion free. If the apps are there on an alternate and at any point in time more popular platform, people will jump.
I am heavily invested in my PC though. Obviously I have more software than most, but I pay several thousands of $$$ for software for my PC and I am therefore highly unlikely to switch to a Mac whenever I upgrade next.
In Canada (75%), France (89%) and Norway (100%), at least, that is not true
You are correct, in those three countries (and Japan to a degree) it is not true, but in the world as such, it most certainly is. Also, however, in those three countries, it is also mostly true. The max effect you can get of targeting private cars is 6-7%. That is quite a lot total, but insignificant compared to what you can do by making other industries better.
No matter what way you look at it, targeting something that can yield a maximum improvement between zero and seven percent is moronic.