Bitches are getting good! If I see an interesting link on FB that hasn't popped up in my reader, I go to the source site and try to find the linked article myself because, well, it's FB. But I noticed a crazy-sounding headline from The Washington Post, went to the wp site, never found it, went back to fb and hovered over the link, ready to warn the friend that they'd clicked the wrong link — hoverlink pointed to trove.fb.xxxxxxx (one of those apps for "social sharing" every 'article' you read in the app). I didn't allow the app, of course, but the headline being on the WP bugged me; back on wp.com, I finally found a barely-related article that had a sentence buried deep inside it that alluded to the sensationalistic headline linked on fb. I should have known: the Post dumbs down the articles for fb (why would anyone want to admit to reading the dumbed-down versions?).
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These apps are hell! Why not just go to the WP and read the whole article there? It's like AOL came back from the 90s, bigger and badder (content not served to you; you have to beg for it by approving each 'app', and then you just get a morsel instead of the whole content). And ppl want this?!
Fine; let em have it. I now officially support these fb malware apps — funny to watch in action, and maybe enough of them will teach people not to use these 'apps'. And booyah on the Post for succumbing to the dumbing down of content to feed the masses.
last night; I did the unthinkable and turned adblock off and chat on, then subscribed/all to several ppl I don't normally interact with. Saw some of their chats in the clear on the news ticker. Had a bit of fun myself emailing one the contents of her chat [with a person I'd never heard of before]... the girl thought I was "hacking" her, LOL, but I told her how to do it as well.
But apparently FB cleaned this up; I haven't been able to replicate it today.
The best part; ppl I warned about it DIDN'T CARE if "only FB" could see the chats; they were concerned primarily that their chats might be broadcast to the world. *facepalm*
recoll, lucene, copernic, locate32...
google desktop and it's included "features" wasn't that great, anyway. I see this as a positive development so more projects can get well-deserved support. Let Google focus on the sky while the rest of us work.
Some of us started checking this out a while ago, and there's a new-ish write-up about 'logging features' at InfectedROM ( http://infectedrom.com/content.php/154-HTCs-User-Behavior-Logging ), but what's not said is that it's not only htc phones that have these "features" of logging every single event on the phone and syncing it to cloud servers somewhere.
(htc, google, and amazon iirc)
For now, I've set the offending dirs to read-only so no files are written, and all's well, but I don't think reading the fine print buried in settings>about>legal is akin to "explicitly asking for permission".
(And I don't think having to root your phone to chmod dirs read-only is a user-friendly way to decline these "features")
IIRC a Googler said it was used [maybe legitimately] for 'debugging', but the number of files found (in each directory) logging every event was offensive if only for the amount of phone storage it eats up (and I won't even go there re: syncing those files to clouds and bad data plans—I suppose a few MBs/day isn't a huge deal).
I think I'll remember where I was when I heard this news. Fuckin' Facebook of all places! It's like being caught with your pants down at the Second Coming.
LOL, thinking the same thing (even though I "liked"/. on FB and that's where I heard this news just now). Fuck it, I'm going to man up and go back to IRC and Usenet full time. Internet won't be the same.:(
And I remember thinking that (about registering) too! I lost my first uid pw and had to make this one; lurked as AC between times and just said who I was. Still hate registering at sites.
Effin excellent answer. Isn't it depressing.
Go for the dough!...but turn your garage into a hobby shop with old chipsets and show the grandkiddies how it's done. (Like mine did with ham radio)
I think if the standard android user (think non-rooted) suddenly lost their google acct for whatever reason, they'd be shocked to learn exactly how integrated the phones are with google. Forget gmail; think calendar (years' worth of files, dates, appts, notes), picasa (which many of us used well before google acquired it and decided to become Morality Police), Voice (voicemail, esp archived ones), and esp Contacts, not to mention market apps, all seamlessly integrated under your gmail account. (And many people are invested in their youtubes, blogger accts, reader, and other google apps that are tied to their main acct.)
With an iPhone, you're less likely to default to using google services on an iPhone.
It's more reasonable to use your real google accounts with gmail, calendar, picasa, etc on the phones, where it's actually USEFUL, and limit G+ to the fake google account on a pc.
(And after this brouhaha, to find non-google solutions for your phone data.)
Damn, this is the FIRST TIME I've wished I'd standardized on iPhones instead of Androids. Never heard of apple (or even MS) basically bricking phones.
(though dylan could have made up a new email and g+ account just to post it; but then again, anyone else could have, too.) This has been hashed out somewhat publicly on Twitter: @Matt Cuttssaid he looked into it and believes Dylan did violate the TOS.
I wouldn't say it's viral, but it's not good publicity. And there are more stories of "spam masters" at Google + suspending/deleting accounts without accountability. Here's a post on Google + about "Skud" (who WORKED at Google) who lost her account because she used her nickname instead of her Christian name. And Google knew her by that nickname; she's been keynote at conferences and introduced as her nickname —links provided so you can see her story and G+ users' reactions to Skud being deep-sixed by G+ spam masters. (She's on twitter too: @skud)
Note, people are asking Cutts for more of an explanation about Dylan than "I looked into it", and Cutts is ignoring them (or repeating the party line that he looked into it). But Dylan isn't shutting up about it. If nothing else, that's terrible PR. Cutts should either work it out with Dylan in private so that Dylan stops talking about it, or say what the TOS violation is. Because people really don't give a shit about "Dylan"; they want to know it won't happen to them.
Check out dylan's google account deletion story — he was a long-term, multi-app google user (FANBOI) whose account got deleted for no apparent reason.
Imagine if he'd had an android — all contacts, appointments, etc from his phone, gone.
And he did nothing wrong! (Though even if he did, I think loss of your personal data from your damned phone is too much). Why tempt fate and risk account deletion just to use a social network?
I signed up primarily to reserve my name and make sure my google data was private. I couldn't believe the amount of data that had unintentionally accumulated on my Google accounts; cleaned that up (locked it down).
Good idea about hanging a shingle that says 'nobody's home'.
Even Google Blog said it was more a SKIN than
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any kind of engine change; they made design changes. It's called a skin. A skin is an option; a preference; not 'progress' (unless they're making the app skinnable and just the default 'skin' changed).
And it's fine if they want to add skins, but to completely change the layout for 'aesthetics', at least call it a 'skin' and even make it default, but have other configurations (skins) available. THAT'S progress and change.
(Yes I reverted to "classic", but I doubt that option will be around long.)
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These apps are hell! Why not just go to the WP and read the whole article there? It's like AOL came back from the 90s, bigger and badder (content not served to you; you have to beg for it by approving each 'app', and then you just get a morsel instead of the whole content). And ppl want this?!
Fine; let em have it. I now officially support these fb malware apps — funny to watch in action, and maybe enough of them will teach people not to use these 'apps'. And booyah on the Post for succumbing to the dumbing down of content to feed the masses.
But apparently FB cleaned this up; I haven't been able to replicate it today.
The best part; ppl I warned about it DIDN'T CARE if "only FB" could see the chats; they were concerned primarily that their chats might be broadcast to the world. *facepalm*
recoll, lucene, copernic, locate32... google desktop and it's included "features" wasn't that great, anyway. I see this as a positive development so more projects can get well-deserved support. Let Google focus on the sky while the rest of us work.
not even sure it's available anymore; but that, and maybe the 16-bit DOS art of assembly.
(htc, google, and amazon iirc)
For now, I've set the offending dirs to read-only so no files are written, and all's well, but I don't think reading the fine print buried in settings>about>legal is akin to "explicitly asking for permission".
(And I don't think having to root your phone to chmod dirs read-only is a user-friendly way to decline these "features")
IIRC a Googler said it was used [maybe legitimately] for 'debugging', but the number of files found (in each directory) logging every event was offensive if only for the amount of phone storage it eats up (and I won't even go there re: syncing those files to clouds and bad data plans—I suppose a few MBs/day isn't a huge deal).
(Of course, my biggest concern is privacy :)
awesome post :)
and I still think demandred killed asmodean.
damn, I bought an iPod anyway (and most generations ever since) — WISH I would have listened to that piece of advice, lol.
I think I'll remember where I was when I heard this news. Fuckin' Facebook of all places! It's like being caught with your pants down at the Second Coming.
lol, well there have been some bumps along the way :)
(I know it's spelled wrong; that's how I've always pronounced it in my mind) The timing DOES seem douchey :/
LOL, thinking the same thing (even though I "liked" /. on FB and that's where I heard this news just now). Fuck it, I'm going to man up and go back to IRC and Usenet full time. Internet won't be the same. :(
And I remember thinking that (about registering) too! I lost my first uid pw and had to make this one; lurked as AC between times and just said who I was. Still hate registering at sites.
+Fuck
And it's still s-on after the "unlock".
Effin excellent answer. Isn't it depressing. Go for the dough! ...but turn your garage into a hobby shop with old chipsets and show the grandkiddies how it's done. (Like mine did with ham radio)
With an iPhone, you're less likely to default to using google services on an iPhone.
with a script. Ex: bigpresh's perl script.
(And after this brouhaha, to find non-google solutions for your phone data.)
Damn, this is the FIRST TIME I've wished I'd standardized on iPhones instead of Androids. Never heard of apple (or even MS) basically bricking phones.
so if anything it's our JOB to try to change G+, not to "love it or leave it".
Guess there's always fb.
I wouldn't say it's viral, but it's not good publicity. And there are more stories of "spam masters" at Google + suspending/deleting accounts without accountability. Here's a post on Google + about "Skud" (who WORKED at Google) who lost her account because she used her nickname instead of her Christian name. And Google knew her by that nickname; she's been keynote at conferences and introduced as her nickname —links provided so you can see her story and G+ users' reactions to Skud being deep-sixed by G+ spam masters. (She's on twitter too: @skud)
Note, people are asking Cutts for more of an explanation about Dylan than "I looked into it", and Cutts is ignoring them (or repeating the party line that he looked into it). But Dylan isn't shutting up about it. If nothing else, that's terrible PR. Cutts should either work it out with Dylan in private so that Dylan stops talking about it, or say what the TOS violation is. Because people really don't give a shit about "Dylan"; they want to know it won't happen to them.
Imagine if he'd had an android — all contacts, appointments, etc from his phone, gone.
And he did nothing wrong! (Though even if he did, I think loss of your personal data from your damned phone is too much). Why tempt fate and risk account deletion just to use a social network?
I signed up primarily to reserve my name and make sure my google data was private. I couldn't believe the amount of data that had unintentionally accumulated on my Google accounts; cleaned that up (locked it down).
Good idea about hanging a shingle that says 'nobody's home'.
any kind of engine change; they made design changes. It's called a skin. A skin is an option; a preference; not 'progress' (unless they're making the app skinnable and just the default 'skin' changed).
And it's fine if they want to add skins, but to completely change the layout for 'aesthetics', at least call it a 'skin' and even make it default, but have other configurations (skins) available. THAT'S progress and change.
(Yes I reverted to "classic", but I doubt that option will be around long.)
progress