yeah, it sucks, my little./ friend, when other people have something you don't happen to have. Let's abolish all the property rights. Communism rules !
What happens in reality today is that small inventor has a very hard time raising capital to actually use his patent, but the big companies start infringing immediately, especially when it is hard to detect infringement.
If something is truly novel and useful, it gets stolen immediately by large entities, while inventor is just starting to seek money to implement something.
In this situation, the most pragmatic approach is to sit and wait until those damages of willful infringement accumulate to 100s of mils, then find some greedy laywers to sue some large corp. Thus, patent trolls...
Patent trolls will go out of existence the moment they introduce some harsher punishment for willfull stealing of patented technology: for example, personal financial liability or, better yet, some jail time for execs found guilty of willfull infringement instead of just monetary judjement against the company (right now shareholder pay the ultimate price for all stupid and illegal activities by the upper management...)
On behalf of all small-time inventors, fuck your brains, idiot
Small inventor without capital will NEVER be able to commercialize his invention fast enouggh to meet your idiotic requoremnt: the big honest corporate folks will make sure that inventor stays in limbo...
Looks like each and every software patent is obvious to/. crowd.
And NO, if you work on something in-house and at least have some proof like a documented notebook, then you can fight patent claims by others in court later. Apparently, MS is lying about them working on this feature before the guy came to them - lying in court is a second nature to MS by the way.. Remember Eolas trial and Pen Wei's fraudulent demo ?
Don't worry: patent holders never go after end users, although, legally speaking, they can...
And, by the way, Microsoft knowinly and purposly implemented this feature in all of their versions of Excel and Access software after Carlos Amado introduced this feature to them and attempted to sell his pending patent application in mid-90's. I am quite sure the guy would be more than happy to get some 6-figure compensation from MS (he was a grad student at Stanford at the time), but they offered him nothing, zilch, zero, nil...
This is just a typical Microsoft's behaviour... Penny wise, pound foolish at the end... (see Eolas, InterTrust, Stac etc.)
Suppose I have a patent on a better mousetrap, but in order to manufacture this I have to use many other patents on a basic mousetrap. If I don't have enough resources to license those other earlier patents, I can just wait until they expire and then build my better mousetrap without taking a license from them. This is a perfectly legitimate bussiness plan - to wait for say 10-15 years until some basic patents expire - that's what generic grug producers do. Why do you think you should be stripped of your patent if, for example, your bussiness plan is about waiting for expiration of other patents ? Stupid reasoning on your part... Patent term is 20 years. Period.
Keep writing your shit, you don't need patents, copyright is all you need..
Unlike code writing monkeys, real software engineers need software patents to protect some original algorithm ideas from "clean room" re-implementation by free-riding bastards.
When RIM and NTP lawyers first met many years ago to discuss patent infringement situation, RIM offered NTP zero, yes, that's right, zero compensation for using their patents.
Obviously, as Don Stout said in some interview, such a generous offer is unacceptable to anybody.
Now RIM is going to pay a lot more than zero.. Good lesson for other corporate free-riders out there...
So, when you, my little slashbot bastard, die for some reason, your wife and children should be left with nothing but your debts... All your patents and copyrights must be immediately terminated !
The logical continuation of this thought would be to make sure that you die as soon as possible, preferably right after your patent application or copyrighted work is published... There are so many ways to achieve this... I guess each patent holder would then need to hire armed bodyguards just to walk around the block.
Yeah, and all the US universities are trolls and parasites too: they hold many "paper patents" and collect royalties on them, while not manufacturing anything by default...
The law must equally apply to everybody, my little mentally-challenged friend...
Yes, read the fucking articles about this particular case, my dear little retarded friend.
NTP is not a patent buying outfit - it was founded by an engineer who actually built and demonstrated techology prototypes back in 80's and early 90's.
He died of cancer last year.
If you, my little moron, work on something for 5 years, build some prototype technology, patent it and then something bad happens to you, e.g. you get cancer and die, do you want some large corporation just start using your patented technology for free, just because you are sick and cannot build it yourself on scale ?
Think about it for a while, my little slashdot moron !
US Patent System is more important than Crackberry
on
Supreme Court spurns RIM
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· Score: -1, Troll
The integrity of the patent system must be preserved at all costs. US just cannot compete with countries like China in manufacturing. This battle is already lost. The only thing that is unique (so far) to the US is the amount of innovation originating from small companies and individuals, and they all desperately need strong patent regime, or they will all die out... I hope that the US Supreme Court has a clear understandinfg of this when they move on to decide on MercExchange vs. EBay case (Although I am not a big fan of bussines method patents, but once we have them they need to be respected as well as other patents...)
RIM must be punished for their apparent disrespect of the US Patent Law.
Have you ever worked in academia ? Apparently not.
Most of the mathematical publications coming out of universities these days are complete and utterly useless junk. The only goal is to get tenure by publishing a lot of junk. What lasting impact on humanity are you talking about ? The thing (academic career in math) is f****** broken...
I know some guy in his 40's who works for some well-known company and has "Research Scientist" written on his official company's card. The guy has an Associate degree from some sort of community college... While your education listed on your resume is much better that his, it is far from being impressive. Well, maybe it is here, on/. Tell your stories of "corporate mathematician's success" to somebody else.
For your information, there is a so-called Provisional Patent Application available in US. It costs just 100$ to have your priority date locked for a 1-year grace period.
Better read about patent system first before posting ignorant comments
Invalid or clearly non-infringed patents get thrown out immediately on Declaratory Judgement by the judge. Besides, an obviously invalid patent can't be enforced for 5-10 years against multiple companies to collect substantial royalties without being re-examined by the PTO - no such luck.
Also, if you happen to think that all federal judges are idiots you'd better get the fuck out of this country.
What amazes me the most is that most/. readers are ready to pass a judgement on any patent's validity in just a few minutes.
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yeah, it sucks, my little ./ friend, when other people
have something you don't happen to have.
Let's abolish all the property rights.
Communism rules !
Most Slashbots are just clueless about reality..
What happens in reality today is that small inventor has a very hard
time raising capital to actually use his patent, but the big companies
start infringing immediately, especially when it is hard to detect infringement.
If something is truly novel and useful, it gets stolen immediately by large entities, while inventor is just starting to seek money to implement something.
In this situation, the most pragmatic approach is to sit and wait until those damages of willful infringement accumulate to 100s of mils, then
find some greedy laywers to sue some large corp.
Thus, patent trolls...
Patent trolls will go out of existence the moment they introduce some harsher punishment for willfull stealing of patented technology:
for example, personal financial liability or, better yet, some jail time for execs found guilty of willfull infringement instead of just monetary judjement against the company (right now shareholder pay the ultimate price for all stupid and illegal activities by the upper management...)
On behalf of all small-time inventors, fuck your brains, idiot
...
Small inventor without capital will NEVER be able to commercialize
his invention fast enouggh to meet your idiotic requoremnt: the big honest corporate folks will make sure that inventor stays in limbo
Looks like each and every software patent is obvious to /. crowd.
And NO, if you work on something in-house and at least have some proof
like a documented notebook, then you can fight patent claims by others in court later.
Apparently, MS is lying about them working on this feature before the guy came to them - lying in court is a second nature to MS by the way..
Remember Eolas trial and Pen Wei's fraudulent demo ?
Eolas patent was upheld by PTO.
W3 didn't prove a shit.
MS lost, lost, lost and lost again...
Don't worry: patent holders never go after end users, although, legally speaking, they can...
And, by the way, Microsoft knowinly and purposly implemented this feature in all of their versions of Excel and Access software after Carlos Amado introduced this feature to them and attempted to sell his pending patent application in mid-90's.
I am quite sure the guy would be more than happy to get some 6-figure compensation from MS (he was a grad student at Stanford at the time),
but they offered him nothing, zilch, zero, nil...
This is just a typical Microsoft's behaviour...
Penny wise, pound foolish at the end... (see Eolas, InterTrust, Stac etc.)
Suppose I have a patent on a better mousetrap, but in order to
manufacture this I have to use many other patents on a basic mousetrap.
If I don't have enough resources to license those other earlier patents, I can just wait until they expire and then build my better mousetrap without taking a license from them.
This is a perfectly legitimate bussiness plan - to wait for say 10-15 years until some basic patents expire - that's what generic grug producers do.
Why do you think you should be stripped of your patent if, for example, your bussiness plan is about waiting for expiration of other patents ?
Stupid reasoning on your part...
Patent term is 20 years. Period.
Hey, you are reading official RIM's press releases to better understand this case?
I guess you fully qualify as "mudak" (if you know what it means, actually, nothing too offensive...)
I suggest you read the actual court documents instead...
Contrary to what you say, it is RIM's CEO and other upper managers who
will be sued to oblivion by the disgruntled shareholders.
Why ? Because this case is the future text-book example of
HOW NOT TO RUN patent infringement case.
I suggest you educate yourself a little better about basic realities...
In the RSA case, there is no development cost, it's just a sheer brilliance of the algorithm creators.
Hey, you, retarded slashbot code writers...
= unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1| dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
M sKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/d sM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`"
Keep writing your shit, you don't need patents, copyright is all you need..
Unlike code writing monkeys, real software engineers need software patents to protect some original algorithm ideas from "clean room" re-implementation by free-riding bastards.
Want examples ?
Version 1:
-export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL
#!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj
$/
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"
Version 2:
"print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<>
)]}\Es
By the way, version 1 does exactly the same thing as version 2 - RSA encryption, in case you haven't noticed...
When RIM and NTP lawyers first met many years ago to discuss patent infringement situation, RIM offered NTP zero, yes, that's right, zero compensation for using their patents.
Obviously, as Don Stout said in some interview, such a generous offer is
unacceptable to anybody.
Now RIM is going to pay a lot more than zero..
Good lesson for other corporate free-riders out there...
Excellent proposal ! Very clever.
...
So, when you, my little slashbot bastard, die for some reason, your wife and children should be left with nothing but your debts...
All your patents and copyrights must be immediately terminated !
The logical continuation of this thought would be to make sure that you die as soon as possible, preferably right after your patent application or copyrighted work is published...
There are so many ways to achieve this
I guess each patent holder would then need to hire armed bodyguards just to walk around the block.
What a world full of idiots like you.
Yeah, and all the US universities are trolls and parasites too:
they hold many "paper patents" and collect royalties on them, while not manufacturing anything by default...
The law must equally apply to everybody, my little mentally-challenged friend...
Hey, little Slashbot retards !
Why have you marked the above post of mine as "troll" ?
Have a problem with US Constitution?
Then try to change it or better get the fuck out of here, go to China or elsewhere...
Yes, read the fucking articles about this particular case, my dear little retarded friend.
NTP is not a patent buying outfit - it was founded by an engineer who
actually built and demonstrated techology prototypes back in 80's and early 90's.
He died of cancer last year.
If you, my little moron, work on something for 5 years, build some prototype technology, patent it and then something bad happens to you, e.g. you get cancer and die, do you want some large corporation just start using your patented technology for free, just because you are sick and cannot build it yourself on scale ?
Think about it for a while, my little slashdot moron !
The integrity of the patent system must be preserved at all costs.
US just cannot compete with countries like China in manufacturing.
This battle is already lost.
The only thing that is unique (so far) to the US is the amount of innovation originating from small companies and individuals, and they all desperately need strong patent regime, or they will all die out...
I hope that the US Supreme Court has a clear understandinfg of this when they move on to decide on MercExchange vs. EBay case
(Although I am not a big fan of bussines method patents, but once we have them they need to be respected as well as other patents...)
RIM must be punished for their apparent disrespect of the US Patent Law.
There is a "bounty" for solving any really useful math problem:
it's called US Patent..
But to claim this bounty you have to be rather well-to-do financially in the firsty place and live long enough...
I am not aware of any other kind of "bounty" in existence...
"extract tone information from a recording"...
Hm, how many US patent are you infringing ?
Never mind, just joking...
Good luck with selling your software to an eagerly waiting customer...
Being a Ph.D. sucks the most.
Flush your Ph.D down the toilet, get into some IT and software related consulting venture and your financial prospects will greatly improve...
Have you ever worked in academia ? Apparently not.
Most of the mathematical publications coming out of universities these days are complete and utterly useless junk.
The only goal is to get tenure by publishing a lot of junk.
What lasting impact on humanity are you talking about ?
The thing (academic career in math) is f****** broken...
Just give me a break, Cody...
/.
I know some guy in his 40's who works for some well-known company and
has "Research Scientist" written on his official company's card.
The guy has an Associate degree from some sort of community college...
While your education listed on your resume is much better that his,
it is far from being impressive. Well, maybe it is here, on
Tell your stories of "corporate mathematician's success" to somebody else.
Hey, Slashbot retard, US patent system has been in place for more
...
than 200 years.
And nowadays every mindless fuck with a web browser wants to propose radical changes
The Founding Fathers were not idiots after all...
For your information, there is a so-called Provisional Patent Application available in US. It costs just 100$ to have your priority date locked for a 1-year grace period.
Better read about patent system first before posting ignorant comments
Invalid or clearly non-infringed patents get thrown out immediately on Declaratory Judgement by the judge.
/. readers are ready to pass a judgement on any patent's validity in just a few minutes.
Besides, an obviously invalid patent can't be enforced for 5-10 years against multiple companies to collect substantial royalties without being re-examined by the PTO - no such luck.
Also, if you happen to think that all federal judges are idiots you'd better get the fuck out of this country.
What amazes me the most is that most