Slashbot surely knows better than inventors themselves why they invent new things and what they should do with their patents...
Inventor needs to pay his mortgage and bills, just like everybody else, and patent is like a title to a real property which can be leased or sold to anybody.
Get over it already, the hive minds of Slashbot...
"NOTE: the computer as we know it today, could not have been built using the mathmatical limitations of the roman numeral system. The same leap in advancement can happen when software is inherently free because you make it up as you need it, like using a calculator to calculate something as you need it."
What a pearl of idiocy !
So you, Slashbot geeks, can write an advanced speech-recognition software, for example, when you need it, right ?
For you info, "compressing a voice" is one of those well-researched and well-patented technical problems of great practical significance.
While most of the patents are for minor improvements, some patents are for conceptual things like MELP, so your comment about some guy patenting voice compression (which is actually some partucular way of doing this) is ignorant at best...
Go do your homework first...
And, YES, if the patent you are talking about is a valid patent, you'd better ask this guy for a license...
year, those fucking parasites - independent inventors, filing some papers with PTO and then wanting to collect money from honest big corporations...
It is just sad to see how those corporate BS artists managed to turn even an average clueless slashbot into their supporter...
In this particular case, however, it all depends on the validity of the patents, so just shut the fuck up for now and let PTO do their job properly this time...
Jealousy and Envy deny the merit or the novelty of your invention; but Vanity, when the novelty and merit are established, claims it for its own... One would not therefore, of all faculties, or qualities of the mind, wish for a friend, or a child, that he should have that of invention. For his attempts to benefit mankind in that way, however well imagined, if they do not succeed, expose him, though very unjustly, to general ridicule and contempt; and if they do succeed, to envy, robbery, and abuse. -Ben Franklin, 1755
"3. Raise price to apply for patent to $10,000-50,000 (refundable only on recieving a patent) - while it may seem to screw the "little guy" it actually will kill corporations trying to patent every little thing. Even a little operation will be able to afford to patent 1 WORTHWHILE application, but will corporate America still be able to afford to apply for 10's of thousands of trivial patents?"
You are WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sad to see an ordinary clueless Slashbot lobbying for BIG moneyed interests out of pure ignorance and misinformation.
Most patent attorneys and agents DO have at least BS degree in some technical field, and quite a few have M.S or Ph.D. It is only after they get their technical degree they go to Law School and become patent attorneys - because being an engineer sucks...
Ever tried to read some digital signal processing patents ?
Try it once. For one thing, I am quite sure you won't be able to read them, much less to understand . You need at least research M.S. from one of the good universities, better a Ph.D. and some research background too..
Think about RSA patent, or Karmarkar patent for that matter...
Those patents were produced by scientists. The average Joe "the open-source" developer will actually have hard time even reading those patents, much less understanding the intricacies involved...
Have you ever heard of the open-source speech recognition software ? (Yes, there are some university-funded projects but they are done mostly by MS and PhD students working on their professor's grants, not by Jow "open-source developeler" working full time at Mcdonads)
The big high-tech corps are already doing it (Patent "Reform" of 2005)
They have managed to coin and disseminate so-called "patent troll" non-sense, Heck, they even managed to brainwash an average clueless slashbot to be on their side...
In reality, IBM is the biggest patent troll of all. Kill IBM first, and only then you can start talking about some tiny and harmless (for open-source and small business) outfits like Eolas...
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"
The United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8).
Patent is not the right to make and sell a product, but the right to exclude others from using patented invention for a limited period of time. Invention is not the same thing as actual final product. And there is no money mentioned anywhere in this formula:
Today we salute you, Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy.
[Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy!]
Some people only complain about patent quality, but you know enough to step it up to the next level: advocating the total abolition of all software patents. Patents? You don't need no stinkin' patents.
[Copyright is all you need!]
There's a specification - maybe even some drawings - and a bunch of claims somewhere in the back, but only you know that the only way to determine the scope of a patent is by reading the title.
[They're trying to patent the Internet!]
It could be Microsoft. Or Google. Or Amazon.com. Or some holding company you've never heard of. But whoever it is, their patents cover algorithms you thought of 10 years ago. And besides, the ideas are pretty stupid anyways.
[Don't forget the one-click-patent!]
While others rest, you can't . . . because somewhere a patent is being filed on code you are writing this very moment - and that patent's going to make someone a lot of money.
[It's all a scam anyways!]
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light, Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy, because if you filed a patent application for being smarter than the rest of us, you'd get a first-action allowance.
There are many private organizations and funds sponsoring AIDS research. And everybody is free to donate, of course.
But to expect that small individual contributions from people exposed to AIDS risk can make it possible to bring about new AIDS medicines is naive, to say it politely. For one thing, most of those needy people are dirt pour.
This kind of research needs serious money which can only be provided by the government and by serious private investors, and investors want return on their money, although some charity also takes place. In particular, people in Africa need this thing badly and without charity they will be dying by the millions.
But charity is charity, it has its limits. Serious people sponsoring expensive and risky research want to see a potential to make some profit, which can only be achieved with patents.
>One possible alternative is to enable the people >who would directly benefit from the development >fund the development. As an illustration >consider if everyone in the nation who was at >risk AIDS infection were to put up $100 to fund >the development of an AIDS "vaccine."
This is the most idiotic statement I read so far in this discussion. Truly a masterpiece of Slashdot idiotism. I guess those people at risk would really love this proposal of yours...
You are just insulting people for no reason. And you can be an ex-con and inventor at the same time. What is your f****** problem with that ?
Thomas Edison would be the biggest patent troll nowdays, by the way: he had a bunch of patents but never produced anything on commercial scale.
"Patent troll" myth is being propagated by sleazy and filthy rich patent counsels working for big tech companies to facilitate the passage of the Patent Act of 2005, which will make it legal for them to steal IP from small startups and independent inventors.
Nobody was rich in the old Soviet Union, except, maybe, for a few Communist Party bonzas and a few undercover millionaires. This is the principal difference between a communist regime and a modern capitalist society like US. It's a question of basic fairness: if you create something new and original, can some other individual get rich off your creation without giving anything back to you? In the old Soviet Union the answer was NO: nobody, including you, will make any money off your creativity. Therefore, they didn't even need patents: they had something called "avtorskoye svidetelstvo", a document confirming that you are, in fact, the original creator, something without any monetary value just to satisfy your pride. In the US the answer is YES: some filthy corporate pigs will certainly try to add to their already substantial wealth without even thinking of providing some compensation for you, the original creator. That is why patents and copyrights are unfortunately necessary in a capitalist society.
It is natural for a single young person to live in a shack and be hungry every day, but to continue doing something (science, poetry, art, music etc.) just for the love of doing it, without any material compensation.
But some day you grow older, get married, have kids... Do you want your wife and kids to live in a shack with you and be hungry every day, so you can pursue your dreams of creations?
Do you want some filthy corporate pigs get rich off your discoveries or creations, so their kids can go to Harvard, and your own kids can go nowhere because you don't have any money to pay for their education?
Keep living off your dreams, young people, and never get married. Because the day you get married, your wife will f****** clean this altruistic nonsense out of your brains, or you will end up being single and broke again pretty soon.
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Business model can be either legal or illegal, Slashbot retard.
Enforcing *valid* patents in court is perfectly legal, moreover, this is what patents are for: patent is a legal instrument.
Got it now ?
Slashbot surely knows better than inventors themselves why they invent new things and what they should do with their patents...
Inventor needs to pay his mortgage and bills, just like everybody else,
and patent is like a title to a real property which can be leased or sold to anybody.
Get over it already, the hive minds of Slashbot...
"NOTE: the computer as we know it today, could not have been built using the mathmatical limitations of the roman numeral system. The same leap in advancement can happen when software is inherently free because you make it up as you need it, like using a calculator to calculate something as you need it."
What a pearl of idiocy !
So you, Slashbot geeks, can write an advanced speech-recognition software, for example, when you need it, right ?
Go get your GED now !!!
Take Viagra, for example.
Any drug company can easily analyze and replicate the substance, once
it is out and some people start taking it.
So, no patent for Viagra, according to your foolish "test" ?
Go fuck yourself...
I, as well as all other normal people, want to enjoy all new drugs made possible by the strong patent system.
For you info, "compressing a voice" is one of those well-researched
and well-patented technical problems of great practical significance.
While most of the patents are for minor improvements, some patents are
for conceptual things like MELP, so your comment about some guy patenting
voice compression (which is actually some partucular way of doing this)
is ignorant at best...
Go do your homework first...
And, YES, if the patent you are talking about is a valid patent, you'd
better ask this guy for a license...
"Patents are for your design for doing something. A copyright is for an idea"
Why don't you read about patents and copyrights first ?
You are so fucking IGNORANT !!!
No patents = say good-buy to all modern drugs...
.etc. etc., then undress and go live in the woods...
But that's not all: you must also turn off your computer right away,
trash your TV, IPod, etc
year, those fucking parasites - independent inventors,
filing some papers with PTO and then wanting to collect
money from honest big corporations...
It is just sad to see how those corporate BS artists managed to turn even
an average clueless slashbot into their supporter...
In this particular case, however, it all depends on the validity of the patents, so just shut the fuck up for now and let PTO do their job properly this time...
Jealousy and Envy deny the merit or the novelty of your invention; but Vanity, when the novelty and merit are established, claims it for its own... One would not therefore, of all faculties, or qualities of the mind, wish for a friend, or a child, that he should have that of invention. For his attempts to benefit mankind in that way, however well imagined, if they do not succeed, expose him, though very unjustly, to general ridicule and contempt; and if they do succeed, to envy, robbery, and abuse.
-Ben Franklin, 1755
"3. Raise price to apply for patent to $10,000-50,000 (refundable only on recieving a patent) - while it may seem to screw the "little guy" it actually will kill corporations trying to patent every little thing. Even a little operation will be able to afford to patent 1 WORTHWHILE application, but will corporate America still be able to afford to apply for 10's of thousands of trivial patents?"
You are WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sad to see an ordinary clueless Slashbot lobbying for BIG moneyed
interests out of pure ignorance and misinformation.
Most patent attorneys and agents DO have at least BS degree in some
technical field, and quite a few have M.S or Ph.D.
It is only after they get their technical degree they go to Law School and become patent attorneys - because being an engineer sucks...
Forget US Constitition, Founding Fathers and more than 200 years of history
of invention in USA.
Slashbot knows better...
Ever tried to read some digital signal processing patents ?
Try it once. For one thing, I am quite sure you won't be able to read them, much less to understand . You need at least research M.S. from one of the good universities, better a Ph.D. and some research background too..
Think about RSA patent, or Karmarkar patent for that matter...
Those patents were produced by scientists. The average Joe "the open-source" developer will actually have hard time even reading those patents, much less understanding the intricacies involved...
Have you ever heard of the open-source speech recognition software ?
(Yes, there are some university-funded projects but they are done mostly
by MS and PhD students working on their professor's grants, not by
Jow "open-source developeler" working full time at Mcdonads)
The big high-tech corps are already doing it (Patent "Reform" of 2005)
They have managed to coin and disseminate so-called "patent troll" non-sense,
Heck, they even managed to brainwash an average clueless slashbot to be on their side...
In reality, IBM is the biggest patent troll of all.
Kill IBM first, and only then you can start talking about some tiny and harmless (for open-source and small business) outfits like Eolas...
Comparing patent enforcement companies to terrorists ?
Way to go, let's continue..
And who are the judges and the juries in those patent enforcement cases ? Accomplices to terrorists, I guess ?
Poor little brainwashed Slashdot motherfuckers...
Why don't you shut up and read about this case before you
open your little fucking mouth ?
Calling late inventor a "bastard" ? Who the fuck are you ?
How about the judge and the jury on this case ?
Are they stupid evil bastards too ?
Do yourself a favor: go back to school and get your GED for fuck's sake ..
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"
The United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8).
Patent is not the right to make and sell a product,
but the right to exclude others from using patented invention
for a limited period of time.
Invention is not the same thing as actual final product.
And there is no money mentioned anywhere in this formula:
Don't you get it, idiot ?
Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Genius
[Real men of genius]
Today we salute you, Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy.
[Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy!]
Some people only complain about patent quality, but you know enough to step it up to the next level: advocating the total abolition of all software patents. Patents? You don't need no stinkin' patents.
[Copyright is all you need!]
There's a specification - maybe even some drawings - and a bunch of claims somewhere in the back, but only you know that the only way to determine the scope of a patent is by reading the title.
[They're trying to patent the Internet!]
It could be Microsoft. Or Google. Or Amazon.com. Or some holding company you've never heard of. But whoever it is, their patents cover algorithms you thought of 10 years ago. And besides, the ideas are pretty stupid anyways.
[Don't forget the one-click-patent!]
While others rest, you can't . . . because somewhere a patent is being filed on code you are writing this very moment - and that patent's going to make someone a lot of money.
[It's all a scam anyways!]
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light, Mr. Anti-Software Patent Guy, because if you filed a patent application for being smarter than the rest of us, you'd get a first-action allowance.
[Mr. Anti-Software Paaaaatent Guy!]
(http://271patent.blogspot.com/)
There are many private organizations and funds sponsoring AIDS research.
And everybody is free to donate, of course.
But to expect that small individual contributions from people
exposed to AIDS risk can make it possible to bring about new AIDS medicines is naive, to say it politely.
For one thing, most of those needy people are dirt pour.
This kind of research needs serious money which can only be provided by the government and by serious private investors, and investors want return on
their money, although some charity also takes place.
In particular, people in Africa need this thing badly and
without charity they will be dying by the millions.
But charity is charity, it has its limits.
Serious people sponsoring expensive and risky research want to see a potential to make some
profit, which can only be achieved with patents.
>One possible alternative is to enable the people
>who would directly benefit from the development
>fund the development. As an illustration
>consider if everyone in the nation who was at
>risk AIDS infection were to put up $100 to fund
>the development of an AIDS "vaccine."
This is the most idiotic statement I read so far in this discussion.
Truly a masterpiece of Slashdot idiotism.
I guess those people at risk would really
love this proposal of yours...
Freedom Wireless a "patent troll" ?!!!!!!!!!
You are just insulting people for no reason.
And you can be an ex-con and inventor at the same time.
What is your f****** problem with that ?
Thomas Edison would be the biggest patent troll nowdays, by the way: he had a bunch of patents
but never produced anything on commercial scale.
"Patent troll" myth is being propagated by sleazy
and filthy rich patent counsels working for big
tech companies to facilitate the passage of the Patent Act of 2005,
which will make it legal for them to steal IP from small startups and independent inventors.
Nobody was rich in the old Soviet Union, except, maybe, for a few Communist Party bonzas and a few undercover millionaires.
This is the principal difference between a communist regime and a modern capitalist society like US.
It's a question of basic fairness: if you create something new and original, can some other individual get rich off your creation without giving anything back to you?
In the old Soviet Union the answer was NO: nobody, including you, will make any money off your creativity. Therefore, they didn't even need patents: they had something called
"avtorskoye svidetelstvo", a document confirming that you are, in fact, the original creator, something without any monetary value just to satisfy your pride.
In the US the answer is YES: some filthy corporate pigs will certainly try to add to their already substantial wealth without even thinking of providing some compensation for you, the original creator. That is why patents and copyrights are unfortunately necessary in a capitalist society.
It is natural for a single young person to live in a shack and be hungry every day, but to continue doing something (science, poetry, art, music etc.) just for the love of doing it, without any material compensation.
But some day you grow older, get married, have kids
Do you want your wife and kids to live in a shack with you and be hungry every day, so you can pursue your dreams of creations?
Do you want some filthy corporate pigs get rich off your discoveries or creations, so their kids can go to Harvard, and your own kids can go nowhere because you don't have any money to pay for their education?
Keep living off your dreams, young people, and never get married.
Because the day you get married, your wife will f****** clean this altruistic nonsense out of your brains, or you will end up being single and broke again pretty soon.