Yes, that's completely unusual. Check your cache and proxy settings, clear both. And what do you mean by you "can't"? As in the reply button disapears, you can't get back onto the site...?
Science is a religion. It's a set of beliefs, rules, methodologies, guides, for one to follow to bring themselves closer to attaining and understanding truth about the universe, how and why it works the way that it does. And on that front, it has proven more successful than any other religion. The one big difference is that it doesn't claim to have answers, rather it tells of how to ask the right questions in order to find answers, or how to get as close to them as you can. Answers out there that you see, such as relativity, quantum mechanics... they're not what science is, they are RESULTS of science, the results of following scientific method for the purpose of attaining understanding. This is the true reason why science attacks other religions, because it teaches questions, not answers. Where other religions need faith in their answers and explanations being true, a question is not something you need to have faith in.
"The axioms of science arose from the Judeo-Christian world view"
By which you mean a world view similar to that shared by judeo-christian faiths? You surely don't mean to imply that science is the child of those religions? It seems curious that you'd mention those religions specifically when science was born in areas around the world long before they were touch by those religions, islam was a huge driving force of the scientific method (for similar reasons to those you mention)... travel further east into the realms of polytheism (very un-judeo-christian) and you find very early roots of maths and science.
No, the use of the word 'day' doesn't mean different things in those at all. The difference that you think you're spotting is actually just caused by the pluralisation of the word 'day' in the examples you gave. Pluralisation without an exact quantitive definition in those examples is using vagueness deliberately as an exact measurement of the time is not important to the point being made, unlike the bible which does say 'on the third day' etc, which does specify an exact number of days (being a single day, and the third one of that). Also, "he called the light day and the darkness night" does kind of define what the unit of a day is, unless you're suggesting that the earth spins at a different rate, or that the translation is grossly inaccurate, in which case, the purpose of reading it becomes lost altogether.
exploited higgs bosons *lol* I can just imagine it now, loads of tiny particle with needles in their hands stitching trainers at 0.3c/hour... probably crying
They should just put where they think it'll be in my shoe... when I'm walking along, say in a rush with no time to stop, and the tiniest thing gets into my shoe, it always feels massive.
"How can you then devise a strategy that has a 96% chance of finding the particle with unlimited time"
How did you get "unlimited time" from them saying "finding it first"?
All they're saying is that if it is to be found using particular method, they have chance x of executing that method before the LHC guys do. It's hardly rocket surgery.
"We're saying that their bullshitting about their chances of actually observing it."
I notice your full stop (aka 'period') after the word 'it'... whereas, the quote doesn't have a stop there, it has the word 'first'. If the LHC never comes back online, then LHC's chance of finding it first must be zero, and everybody elses rises to the % chance that our universe model supports the existance of a discoverable higgs boson. Saying 50-96% sounds quite reasonable to me. Don't call bullshit just because you don't know the reasons why something like this is said, it just makes you look ignorant to the existance of any knowledge outside of your own.
No the different being what may seem like chaos to you is actually not all too confusing for everyone else. For example, where you find god in chaos, and believe I find luck, I actually find reason, and believe you find ignorance.
Hydrogen atom says to another, "God stole my electron!" Second hydrogen atom says "are you sure God even exists?!" First hydrogen atom says "yeah, I'm positive!"
"The fact that I didn't pay for Google Earth isn't relevant; if I gave you a "free" doughnut laced with arsenic would that be okay?"
Oh grow up. They're an *internet* based company, they release *internet* software. Every time you run Google Earth, guess what, it connects to them! Now it just tells you as well if you need updates... which is fair enough, being locked into supporting old protocols because you can't get people to upgrade their software is a pain. This isn't the arsenic of the doughnut world, this is a client/server software model. And I fail to believe that there's not one person on here who can scrape together a tiny script that makes this not a problem. All ya gotta do is stop it from launching on boot, just make it launch along with google earth, then remove it again from the autorun when google earth exits, and kill it. I'd offer to myself, but that would mean having to have a machine with OSX on it, and that OS bugs me so much... I bet it's just a few lines in bash tho, or do people here really not have the control over their macs that they claim this google updater software is meant to be taking away?
I don't think they do. People on the whole seem to be quite quick to jump on 'em... it just doesn't seem like it in here especially, because compared to the OTT reactions that Microsoft(it's a trap!) inspires in people... nothing could possibly compare.
I'm sorry I can't hear a word you're sayin over all the Microsoft HATE and RAGE (damn, can't do silly rage voices in typing) that's flooding my brain!!!
Literally I have a friend who you can show him somethin, and he'll react so so, but then if it's an Apple product, he likes it... not because of the product, not because of the company, but simply because he can't seperate the passion for his hatred of microsoft, 'n cuz to him apple represents 'not-microsoft'... it just colours everything.
How distorted is that? Really, they might be big, but they're still a business, a software (et al) business, shouldn't inspire blinding passionate hatred in a whole person. There's *so* much better, and so much worse, passion should be about the extremes in life, not the extremes in operating system memory footprint sizes. I'm a software developer myself, and I love some of the stuff I do, just as I like to of any of my non-software creations, that's what I'm putting into what I'm making. That's good, that's healthy, I deserve that... but to put that passion instead on... oh you get the point, i'm just rambling now!
"A simple, "Check for updates on launch" checkbox would do that"
Why, because the dropdown box where you choose between Update automatically, Ask me first, and Never check for updates baffles you? I don't think Google are responsible for that.
Or third option (more than two options are allowed) -- without a copy of the text, any judgement passed on it is going to be second hand conjecture at the best, and based on the wide varieties of peoples own personal experience with not reading messages. My best guess is that with a flood of people who can only see in false dichotomies, well founded opinions may be hard to come by.
If anyone has the actual text from this message box, post it. This "he didn't say he didn't understand it", like people always know when they're not understanding something (a crash screen is informative to me, but "a load of numbers that don't mean anything" to someone else).
This is so rubbish, can you really not see that there might just be the possibility that you haven't thought of everything? Or does your keyboard just not have a question mark key?
"It's like saying "if you don't like the traffic shaping your ISP is doing, don't use them." "
Yeah, and you think that wouldn't work? How long do you think an ISP could survive without anyone using them?
Except that won't happen of course cuz all it takes is for other people to also think "ah but someone else will, me stopping won't have any affect" and the ISP have their suckers!
So what's the answer? To have "don't be bullied" legislated?
Or perhaps taking out some of the top fat cats, and I don't mean for pizza. Some people just need fear to keep 'em inline. Or of course, decide you don't wanna be part of their "society" anymore, grab some like minded people and go start a commune somewhere. People do it all the time. It's very possible.
Or, I guess, just complain, usually to the wrong people, and use that to gain the feeling of having done something.
"They shouldn't do that"... end of conversation... except that's a bit boring, and even more nonproductive than your claimed 'geek pedant asperger idiot-savants' comments that actually make more of a point than perhaps you realise, as "don't install it" happens to be the/only/ solution. We can't go tell their Mom, and get Google sent to bed. The way to get software companies to stop doing naughties with their software, is to stop using it. Going "grumble grumble grumble... but I'm gonna carry on using it" is just polluting consciousnesses with grumbles. We can't be responsible for everything that goes on, but we can be responsible for ourselves. It's nice to wanna hold peoples hands and protect them from people who'd take advantage, but all you breed doing that is a bunch of people who need their hands held all the time otherwise they get taken advantage of. Sometimes a simple case of stating the lesson to be learnt is the way to go.
Perhaps there are workarounds, replacing the executable with something harmless that just quits, or encasing google earth in a script that does a killall and removes it from startup... perhaps puts it back when you start google earth to avoid any installation (I've not run it, no OSX machine to look at it directly myself)... but that's not gonna stop 'em from doing anything.
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"Is there something wrong with my installation"
Yes, that's completely unusual. Check your cache and proxy settings, clear both. And what do you mean by you "can't"? As in the reply button disapears, you can't get back onto the site...?
Science is a religion. It's a set of beliefs, rules, methodologies, guides, for one to follow to bring themselves closer to attaining and understanding truth about the universe, how and why it works the way that it does. And on that front, it has proven more successful than any other religion. The one big difference is that it doesn't claim to have answers, rather it tells of how to ask the right questions in order to find answers, or how to get as close to them as you can. Answers out there that you see, such as relativity, quantum mechanics... they're not what science is, they are RESULTS of science, the results of following scientific method for the purpose of attaining understanding. This is the true reason why science attacks other religions, because it teaches questions, not answers. Where other religions need faith in their answers and explanations being true, a question is not something you need to have faith in.
"The axioms of science arose from the Judeo-Christian world view"
By which you mean a world view similar to that shared by judeo-christian faiths? You surely don't mean to imply that science is the child of those religions? It seems curious that you'd mention those religions specifically when science was born in areas around the world long before they were touch by those religions, islam was a huge driving force of the scientific method (for similar reasons to those you mention)... travel further east into the realms of polytheism (very un-judeo-christian) and you find very early roots of maths and science.
"Even in English you have different meanings"
No, the use of the word 'day' doesn't mean different things in those at all. The difference that you think you're spotting is actually just caused by the pluralisation of the word 'day' in the examples you gave. Pluralisation without an exact quantitive definition in those examples is using vagueness deliberately as an exact measurement of the time is not important to the point being made, unlike the bible which does say 'on the third day' etc, which does specify an exact number of days (being a single day, and the third one of that). Also, "he called the light day and the darkness night" does kind of define what the unit of a day is, unless you're suggesting that the earth spins at a different rate, or that the translation is grossly inaccurate, in which case, the purpose of reading it becomes lost altogether.
Lighten up!
That's why.
patience! Look again, I think you'll be happy :-)
exploited higgs bosons *lol* I can just imagine it now, loads of tiny particle with needles in their hands stitching trainers at 0.3c/hour... probably crying
They should just put where they think it'll be in my shoe... when I'm walking along, say in a rush with no time to stop, and the tiniest thing gets into my shoe, it always feels massive.
"How can you then devise a strategy that has a 96% chance of finding the particle with unlimited time"
How did you get "unlimited time" from them saying "finding it first"?
All they're saying is that if it is to be found using particular method, they have chance x of executing that method before the LHC guys do. It's hardly rocket surgery.
"We're saying that their bullshitting about their chances of actually observing it."
I notice your full stop (aka 'period') after the word 'it'... whereas, the quote doesn't have a stop there, it has the word 'first'. If the LHC never comes back online, then LHC's chance of finding it first must be zero, and everybody elses rises to the % chance that our universe model supports the existance of a discoverable higgs boson. Saying 50-96% sounds quite reasonable to me. Don't call bullshit just because you don't know the reasons why something like this is said, it just makes you look ignorant to the existance of any knowledge outside of your own.
No the different being what may seem like chaos to you is actually not all too confusing for everyone else. For example, where you find god in chaos, and believe I find luck, I actually find reason, and believe you find ignorance.
Hydrogen atom says to another, "God stole my electron!"
Second hydrogen atom says "are you sure God even exists?!"
First hydrogen atom says "yeah, I'm positive!"
...and then suck in Time Warner?
"I can divide by zero"
No you can't, whilst extrapolation may seem to imply the answer is infinity, division by zero is completely illogical thus has no place in mathmatics.
"The fact that I didn't pay for Google Earth isn't relevant; if I gave you a "free" doughnut laced with arsenic would that be okay?"
Oh grow up. They're an *internet* based company, they release *internet* software. Every time you run Google Earth, guess what, it connects to them! Now it just tells you as well if you need updates... which is fair enough, being locked into supporting old protocols because you can't get people to upgrade their software is a pain. This isn't the arsenic of the doughnut world, this is a client/server software model. And I fail to believe that there's not one person on here who can scrape together a tiny script that makes this not a problem. All ya gotta do is stop it from launching on boot, just make it launch along with google earth, then remove it again from the autorun when google earth exits, and kill it. I'd offer to myself, but that would mean having to have a machine with OSX on it, and that OS bugs me so much... I bet it's just a few lines in bash tho, or do people here really not have the control over their macs that they claim this google updater software is meant to be taking away?
Java. Goddamn Java updater! Everywhere! Just sitting there, in the system tray... grr *scratches screen even tho he doesn't have it*
I don't think they do. People on the whole seem to be quite quick to jump on 'em... it just doesn't seem like it in here especially, because compared to the OTT reactions that Microsoft(it's a trap!) inspires in people... nothing could possibly compare.
I'm sorry I can't hear a word you're sayin over all the Microsoft HATE and RAGE (damn, can't do silly rage voices in typing) that's flooding my brain!!!
Literally I have a friend who you can show him somethin, and he'll react so so, but then if it's an Apple product, he likes it... not because of the product, not because of the company, but simply because he can't seperate the passion for his hatred of microsoft, 'n cuz to him apple represents 'not-microsoft'... it just colours everything.
How distorted is that? Really, they might be big, but they're still a business, a software (et al) business, shouldn't inspire blinding passionate hatred in a whole person. There's *so* much better, and so much worse, passion should be about the extremes in life, not the extremes in operating system memory footprint sizes. I'm a software developer myself, and I love some of the stuff I do, just as I like to of any of my non-software creations, that's what I'm putting into what I'm making. That's good, that's healthy, I deserve that... but to put that passion instead on... oh you get the point, i'm just rambling now!
*gone*
yeah, god forbid they be just as retarded and go for quicktime instead. Eugh. Good point, there are lots of bad choices out there, well made.
"A simple, "Check for updates on launch" checkbox would do that"
Why, because the dropdown box where you choose between Update automatically, Ask me first, and Never check for updates baffles you? I don't think Google are responsible for that.
Or third option (more than two options are allowed) -- without a copy of the text, any judgement passed on it is going to be second hand conjecture at the best, and based on the wide varieties of peoples own personal experience with not reading messages. My best guess is that with a flood of people who can only see in false dichotomies, well founded opinions may be hard to come by.
If anyone has the actual text from this message box, post it. This "he didn't say he didn't understand it", like people always know when they're not understanding something (a crash screen is informative to me, but "a load of numbers that don't mean anything" to someone else).
This is so rubbish, can you really not see that there might just be the possibility that you haven't thought of everything? Or does your keyboard just not have a question mark key?
"It's like saying "if you don't like the traffic shaping your ISP is doing, don't use them." "
Yeah, and you think that wouldn't work? How long do you think an ISP could survive without anyone using them?
Except that won't happen of course cuz all it takes is for other people to also think "ah but someone else will, me stopping won't have any affect" and the ISP have their suckers!
So what's the answer? To have "don't be bullied" legislated?
Or perhaps taking out some of the top fat cats, and I don't mean for pizza. Some people just need fear to keep 'em inline. Or of course, decide you don't wanna be part of their "society" anymore, grab some like minded people and go start a commune somewhere. People do it all the time. It's very possible.
Or, I guess, just complain, usually to the wrong people, and use that to gain the feeling of having done something.
Or, to sum up in a single word which I think says it all... PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*runs around screaming* if we worry about everything then nothing will take us by surprise!
"They shouldn't do that"... end of conversation... except that's a bit boring, and even more nonproductive than your claimed 'geek pedant asperger idiot-savants' comments that actually make more of a point than perhaps you realise, as "don't install it" happens to be the /only/ solution. We can't go tell their Mom, and get Google sent to bed. The way to get software companies to stop doing naughties with their software, is to stop using it. Going "grumble grumble grumble... but I'm gonna carry on using it" is just polluting consciousnesses with grumbles. We can't be responsible for everything that goes on, but we can be responsible for ourselves. It's nice to wanna hold peoples hands and protect them from people who'd take advantage, but all you breed doing that is a bunch of people who need their hands held all the time otherwise they get taken advantage of. Sometimes a simple case of stating the lesson to be learnt is the way to go.
Perhaps there are workarounds, replacing the executable with something harmless that just quits, or encasing google earth in a script that does a killall and removes it from startup... perhaps puts it back when you start google earth to avoid any installation (I've not run it, no OSX machine to look at it directly myself)... but that's not gonna stop 'em from doing anything.
So... what you're saying, is that google earth's going to delete all my data?!!
PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!
We must fight back! *quickly reaches for msn live search*
ooo.... guess my data's not that important... I'm sure I'll be able to just find it again, on google.