"we have the wrong conception that we have to change everything every 5 years and that doesn't count only for computers"
Nobody has to at all. You can keep building devices and software using old protocols if you want to, and some people do. But most people don't want to limit the technology they use to what was available 5-10 years ago, or limit the protocols to that which could be imagined for that old hardware, ignoring improvements and evolution of ideas that come about as we can do more. If there's a better tool, it seems silly not to use it.
It's not our fault that you bleed, go change your tampon and get back to taking your anger out on those who are actually responsible: your parents. None of us here fed them while they were fluking you into existence, so none of us are responsible for you being born a little bitch, and if you weren't such a little bitch, you'd realise that, and direct your PMS anger where it's a little more deserved.
Just because it runs as seperate 'modules' which communicate using set message passing functions, that can't directly mess with each others memory or the rest of the system, making it a zillion times more stable and secure than Other Browsers(tm), does not mean that it's going to be loads slower, or more complicated to develop for, or harder to find developers that will commit to developing for it. Monolithic browsers are a thing of the past. It's all about the micro-browser now. Just you watch. The Hirp of Internet Replacing Plugins (HIRP) browser will be what drives all of our web needs in the next 2-5 years/decades. You'll see.
"But massive instruction per clock improvements do not happen very often in the x86 chip industry. In fact, I can count all the major improvements for the last 15 years on one hand:"
Can count all the major improvements - that you know/can think of, sure you've demonstrated that. What about all the improvements that occur outside of the processor instruction set? Such as improvements to branch prediction and improvements to the pipeline so that branch prediction misses aren't so expensive (as well as additional instructions such as condition move that can reduce need for branching)? Improved out-of-order instruction execution, fast loading/saving of contexts useful for multitasking, improvements to the MMU such as global and large pages mean less TLB misses, memory prefetching, greater memory bandwidth, and of course, hyperthreading (okay just kiddin on the last one;-)
Well there're a few examples where a second core can still take some work from the first even if the first core is running a single threaded process, but yes on the whole it may not be much (or even noticable). Where IO can be performed asynchronously, such as network app (like a network game) that displays its current state on the screen until it receives a packet over the network, at which point it stops working on the screen, processes the incoming packet, then goes back to drawing the updated state on the screen. With a second core, the network interface card (NIC) could trigger the IRQ on the second core, which would pull the packet from the NIC, handle any network frame or tcp/ip stuff (such as combining fragmented packets that may have been received in or out of order), work out which stream it belongs to, do any firewally type stuff, put it in the buffer ready for the app to read it, and then signal the app to tell it there's data ready for it. Similar can be true with asynchronous disc access (think virus scanner running on second core) or display stuff (where app changes contents of screen elements but OS is responsible for keeping the screen up to date with the changes, generating bitmaps from vector graphic fonts etc).
But granted, this could be such a small portion of stuff that the savings are small, or such a large portion that dedicated hardware is used anyway (think graphics accelerators, tcp offload engines, hardware encoders, dsps etc), but possibly still worth noting.
"I've put a *lot* of work into that hole. Who is going to pay me? Probably nobody, because nobody wants that hole."
Unlike music where people are forced to pay you for creating some, even if they don't want it and you haven't even released it? No, people are required to pay if they want to use your work. If you dig a big hole, fill it with water, you could charge people to come swim there (this actually happens!).
You're never paid just for doing something. You're paid for doing something that somebody can use, by them.
It's unfortunately not a rare story, I couldn't tell you how many people I've known who've had their lives ruined by such things, left unable to share certain joys with the people they love that others take for granted, unable to hold together a "normal" relationship because of everything connected with it, the knock on effect on everyone who loves them, and how they feel seeing the effect it has on the people they love. It's heartbreaking. But you can't live with a broken heart, and you can't do your best for the people who need you if you can't handle it yourself. Different people handle things in different ways. I nearly destroyed myself by becoming so emersed, my brain would spot occurances of 'rape' within a page full of text that includes the word 'grapes'. You can't live like that, and you can't help people like that. Now, perhaps not quite as tackless as the post you replied to, I've been known to make poor taste 'jokes' involving the subject matter (but never personalised) and laughing. Why? How can I do that when I've seen how actually unfunny to the extreme it is? I didn't have a choice. Force myself to laugh to reprogram my brain to go down a different thought line to give me the choice of an alternative response to the millions of triggers that serve as the constant reminders of everything I know. And I'm not the only one; I have in the past recognised a victim by her change in humour to include joke-rape-remarks. It's not that she was actually insensitive as it may appear to others, it's that she wished she was, and wanted to convince herself that she was.
Yes there are some very insensitive people out there who haven't seen the effects, and you know what? Lucky them. The more people like that out there means more people whos lives haven't been tainted by such things. And so, they joke, because they don't recognise the seriousness of it. And then, there are the others, who joke because we do recognise the seriousness of it, because we are affected by it, but we try so hard to have moments when we can feel like we're not.
So please be careful attacking people who make such poor taste comments. They may appear insensitive, but it may actually end up being you who is insensitive to somebody's coping mechanism. We're all different. It doesn't mean we're bad.
I wish you and your family the best of luck for your future.
"If you want to throw in a new mobo and add a tuner you can do it, you just have to phone the Microsoft authentication line"
Unless the new mb has an incompatable IDE (esp RAID/SATA) controller, in which case it can be a lot more work (often a reinstall) to get windows to work than linux (which usually at most requires adding the driver to the kernel if it's not already there). There can also be ACPI incompatabilities that can require a reinstall or some tricky fiddling (as anyone who's tried to boot their vmware machine on bare metal or vice versa will have discovered).
"Just because it's a different problem doesn't make it any less relevant"
No, just means it's not as simple as first stated. You have to look at things like: A - Ratio of money spent that ends up in pockets of engineers/etc who will respend as opposed to trapped in massive corporate reserves. B - How this ratio compares to other things the money could be spent on (eg, how much of the police force's budget go on energy costs that end up in the same place? Okay police are quite important, this is just an example). C - Whether there's any way of [part] paying for the project out of trapped corporate reserves by [part] commercialising the project.
Unless the probe was able to collect the hydrocarbons and launch them towards earth to be collected while remaining in orbit or landed on Titan. As long as enough was able to be launched towards earth within the lifetime of the launcher, it could be profitable.
Big ifs there maybe, but shows there are alternate ways of thinking that can increase viability.
"Those costs will end up in corporate coffers which are largely untaxed."
That sounds to me more like the problem that needs to be solved than the government spending money on space research/travel.
"The amount that comes back into the government would be so watered down"
I'm more concerned with money that comes back into the economy as a whole than the government. Any money that gets respent is okay, money that gets taken out of the economy and added to massive corporate reserves is definitely a big problem.
Yeah you're right. They should hide information about hydrocarbon reserves on titan until we can use them. Fancy sending probes out to planets then reporting back what they find! They really haven't thought this through, have they?
And where do you think it's going to go? People will be paid with it to put their time into collecting the resources and developing the rocket to go into space. Just because the result of the work is going into space, doesn't mean the money is. The money will stay on earth, in the pockets of eg rocket engineers who will spend it on food 'n housing. So it's nowhere near as bad as it sounds.
A - Titan has had hundreds of times more dinosaurs than us that are now all hydrocarbons. B - Titan's hydrocarbons come from something other than [just] dinosaurs. C - The reading is incorrect; Titan has no hydrocarbons.
Other relevant options: A - Our hydrocarbons didn't [all] come from dinosaurs.
"with his dick so far up his own ass he cant shit a turd for love nor money. Bite my shiny metal ass"
Dude, I don't care who's dick you've got up your ass, or whether you take it for love or money, I'm not paying you to take a crap. I know you need a new keyboard because you've obviously just taken a dump on yours and pressed 'send', but if you didn't keep taking it up the ass for love and money, your sphyncter muscles would still work and you wouldn't have that drippage problem. Maybe if you developed yourself a skill, people would pay you for something else, and you wouldn't need your ass to be reinforced with metal to take the constant poundings it gets. I know you think it's cool because it makes your ass look like a robot, but as much as you try convince yourself otherwise, gay robot asses just aren't cool. Never have been, never will be.
"So your answer is to leave it to future generations millions of years from now..."
No, my answer was purely that this device does remove CO2 from the atmosphere; it's what you do with it afterwards that dictates where it goes, but that falls outside of the scope of what this invention is designed to do.
"it should certainly be possible to redesign the missiles' guidance system to use the airplane's anti-missile jamming laser as a homing beacon"
Yes, if you're into weapons construction. But the people they're scared about firing these aren't the people who have the resources to do this, they're merely people who have the funds to buy left over tech from fallen regimes etc.
"Fortunately, that one had an anti-missile system installed and the two missiles were distracted"
Do you have a source for this? From what I can find, the pilots were unaware of the attack until afterwards (but were a little confused by the missile exhaust streams). Israeli officials said the plane was not equipped with a deflecting device and put the misses down to poor aiming. With money lost due to people scared to fly due to terror attacks, I'ld think they'd want to advertise missile countermeasures to get people back on board feeling safer, but I guess at the same time they'd want to hide the exact methods to make it harder to adapt to them, so it could go either way.
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"we have the wrong conception that we have to change everything every 5 years and that doesn't count only for computers"
Nobody has to at all. You can keep building devices and software using old protocols if you want to, and some people do. But most people don't want to limit the technology they use to what was available 5-10 years ago, or limit the protocols to that which could be imagined for that old hardware, ignoring improvements and evolution of ideas that come about as we can do more. If there's a better tool, it seems silly not to use it.
"Good idea, bad execution"
JFK?
"I sold my upgraded Proteus 2500 the day they sold out"
Made some money out of it too then, did ya?
hehe
"I didn't mean to imply that I think the secure web server is going to be slow"
Don't worry, my reply was just an echo of the age old microkernel-vs-monolithic kernel debate of Tanenbaum-vs-Linus rather than being directed at you.
It's not our fault that you bleed, go change your tampon and get back to taking your anger out on those who are actually responsible: your parents. None of us here fed them while they were fluking you into existence, so none of us are responsible for you being born a little bitch, and if you weren't such a little bitch, you'd realise that, and direct your PMS anger where it's a little more deserved.
Alt + Double click, or Alt+Enter are both windows shortcuts for viewing a file/folders properties that could be worth a try.
Just because it runs as seperate 'modules' which communicate using set message passing functions, that can't directly mess with each others memory or the rest of the system, making it a zillion times more stable and secure than Other Browsers(tm), does not mean that it's going to be loads slower, or more complicated to develop for, or harder to find developers that will commit to developing for it. Monolithic browsers are a thing of the past. It's all about the micro-browser now. Just you watch. The Hirp of Internet Replacing Plugins (HIRP) browser will be what drives all of our web needs in the next 2-5 years/decades. You'll see.
"But massive instruction per clock improvements do not happen very often in the x86 chip industry. In fact, I can count all the major improvements for the last 15 years on one hand:"
;-)
Can count all the major improvements - that you know/can think of, sure you've demonstrated that. What about all the improvements that occur outside of the processor instruction set? Such as improvements to branch prediction and improvements to the pipeline so that branch prediction misses aren't so expensive (as well as additional instructions such as condition move that can reduce need for branching)? Improved out-of-order instruction execution, fast loading/saving of contexts useful for multitasking, improvements to the MMU such as global and large pages mean less TLB misses, memory prefetching, greater memory bandwidth, and of course, hyperthreading (okay just kiddin on the last one
Well there're a few examples where a second core can still take some work from the first even if the first core is running a single threaded process, but yes on the whole it may not be much (or even noticable). Where IO can be performed asynchronously, such as network app (like a network game) that displays its current state on the screen until it receives a packet over the network, at which point it stops working on the screen, processes the incoming packet, then goes back to drawing the updated state on the screen. With a second core, the network interface card (NIC) could trigger the IRQ on the second core, which would pull the packet from the NIC, handle any network frame or tcp/ip stuff (such as combining fragmented packets that may have been received in or out of order), work out which stream it belongs to, do any firewally type stuff, put it in the buffer ready for the app to read it, and then signal the app to tell it there's data ready for it. Similar can be true with asynchronous disc access (think virus scanner running on second core) or display stuff (where app changes contents of screen elements but OS is responsible for keeping the screen up to date with the changes, generating bitmaps from vector graphic fonts etc).
But granted, this could be such a small portion of stuff that the savings are small, or such a large portion that dedicated hardware is used anyway (think graphics accelerators, tcp offload engines, hardware encoders, dsps etc), but possibly still worth noting.
"I've put a *lot* of work into that hole. Who is going to pay me? Probably nobody, because nobody wants that hole."
Unlike music where people are forced to pay you for creating some, even if they don't want it and you haven't even released it? No, people are required to pay if they want to use your work. If you dig a big hole, fill it with water, you could charge people to come swim there (this actually happens!).
You're never paid just for doing something. You're paid for doing something that somebody can use, by them.
It's unfortunately not a rare story, I couldn't tell you how many people I've known who've had their lives ruined by such things, left unable to share certain joys with the people they love that others take for granted, unable to hold together a "normal" relationship because of everything connected with it, the knock on effect on everyone who loves them, and how they feel seeing the effect it has on the people they love. It's heartbreaking. But you can't live with a broken heart, and you can't do your best for the people who need you if you can't handle it yourself. Different people handle things in different ways. I nearly destroyed myself by becoming so emersed, my brain would spot occurances of 'rape' within a page full of text that includes the word 'grapes'. You can't live like that, and you can't help people like that. Now, perhaps not quite as tackless as the post you replied to, I've been known to make poor taste 'jokes' involving the subject matter (but never personalised) and laughing. Why? How can I do that when I've seen how actually unfunny to the extreme it is? I didn't have a choice. Force myself to laugh to reprogram my brain to go down a different thought line to give me the choice of an alternative response to the millions of triggers that serve as the constant reminders of everything I know. And I'm not the only one; I have in the past recognised a victim by her change in humour to include joke-rape-remarks. It's not that she was actually insensitive as it may appear to others, it's that she wished she was, and wanted to convince herself that she was.
Yes there are some very insensitive people out there who haven't seen the effects, and you know what? Lucky them. The more people like that out there means more people whos lives haven't been tainted by such things. And so, they joke, because they don't recognise the seriousness of it. And then, there are the others, who joke because we do recognise the seriousness of it, because we are affected by it, but we try so hard to have moments when we can feel like we're not.
So please be careful attacking people who make such poor taste comments. They may appear insensitive, but it may actually end up being you who is insensitive to somebody's coping mechanism. We're all different. It doesn't mean we're bad.
I wish you and your family the best of luck for your future.
Alex
If you get that far. If you get "inaccessible boot device", then it doesn't matter what you do to the registry, as that's not even being read yet.
"If you want to throw in a new mobo and add a tuner you can do it, you just have to phone the Microsoft authentication line"
Unless the new mb has an incompatable IDE (esp RAID/SATA) controller, in which case it can be a lot more work (often a reinstall) to get windows to work than linux (which usually at most requires adding the driver to the kernel if it's not already there). There can also be ACPI incompatabilities that can require a reinstall or some tricky fiddling (as anyone who's tried to boot their vmware machine on bare metal or vice versa will have discovered).
...everyone on Titan gets a vote.
"Just because it's a different problem doesn't make it any less relevant"
No, just means it's not as simple as first stated. You have to look at things like:
A - Ratio of money spent that ends up in pockets of engineers/etc who will respend as opposed to trapped in massive corporate reserves.
B - How this ratio compares to other things the money could be spent on (eg, how much of the police force's budget go on energy costs that end up in the same place? Okay police are quite important, this is just an example).
C - Whether there's any way of [part] paying for the project out of trapped corporate reserves by [part] commercialising the project.
Unless the probe was able to collect the hydrocarbons and launch them towards earth to be collected while remaining in orbit or landed on Titan. As long as enough was able to be launched towards earth within the lifetime of the launcher, it could be profitable.
Big ifs there maybe, but shows there are alternate ways of thinking that can increase viability.
No, a stupid comment gets a -1 troll. The fact that it mentions bush is irrelevant.
"Those costs will end up in corporate coffers which are largely untaxed."
That sounds to me more like the problem that needs to be solved than the government spending money on space research/travel.
"The amount that comes back into the government would be so watered down"
I'm more concerned with money that comes back into the economy as a whole than the government. Any money that gets respent is okay, money that gets taken out of the economy and added to massive corporate reserves is definitely a big problem.
Yeah you're right. They should hide information about hydrocarbon reserves on titan until we can use them. Fancy sending probes out to planets then reporting back what they find! They really haven't thought this through, have they?
And where do you think it's going to go? People will be paid with it to put their time into collecting the resources and developing the rocket to go into space. Just because the result of the work is going into space, doesn't mean the money is. The money will stay on earth, in the pockets of eg rocket engineers who will spend it on food 'n housing. So it's nowhere near as bad as it sounds.
Options:
A - Titan has had hundreds of times more dinosaurs than us that are now all hydrocarbons.
B - Titan's hydrocarbons come from something other than [just] dinosaurs.
C - The reading is incorrect; Titan has no hydrocarbons.
Other relevant options:
A - Our hydrocarbons didn't [all] come from dinosaurs.
"with his dick so far up his own ass he cant shit a turd for love nor money. Bite my shiny metal ass"
Dude, I don't care who's dick you've got up your ass, or whether you take it for love or money, I'm not paying you to take a crap. I know you need a new keyboard because you've obviously just taken a dump on yours and pressed 'send', but if you didn't keep taking it up the ass for love and money, your sphyncter muscles would still work and you wouldn't have that drippage problem. Maybe if you developed yourself a skill, people would pay you for something else, and you wouldn't need your ass to be reinforced with metal to take the constant poundings it gets. I know you think it's cool because it makes your ass look like a robot, but as much as you try convince yourself otherwise, gay robot asses just aren't cool. Never have been, never will be.
"So your answer is to leave it to future generations millions of years from now..."
No, my answer was purely that this device does remove CO2 from the atmosphere; it's what you do with it afterwards that dictates where it goes, but that falls outside of the scope of what this invention is designed to do.
"it should certainly be possible to redesign the missiles' guidance system to use the airplane's anti-missile jamming laser as a homing beacon"
Yes, if you're into weapons construction. But the people they're scared about firing these aren't the people who have the resources to do this, they're merely people who have the funds to buy left over tech from fallen regimes etc.
"Fortunately, that one had an anti-missile system installed and the two missiles were distracted"
Do you have a source for this? From what I can find, the pilots were unaware of the attack until afterwards (but were a little confused by the missile exhaust streams). Israeli officials said the plane was not equipped with a deflecting device and put the misses down to poor aiming. With money lost due to people scared to fly due to terror attacks, I'ld think they'd want to advertise missile countermeasures to get people back on board feeling safer, but I guess at the same time they'd want to hide the exact methods to make it harder to adapt to them, so it could go either way.