It is important to remember when talking about the space station that science and PR are not important. Most important is keeping smart ex-soviet rocket scientists from heading to some evil country (North Korea for example) where they would develop ICBMs in exchange for food. A secondary goal is to bring home the port for the more powerful politicians.
Sad, but true. But most are already working in other such countries anyway, so it's still a boondoggle. You could employ ten times as many if you just funded some research programs that did more useful things.
Science is just a handy cover. Every once in a while some is done too, but it isn't the goal and should not be expected, though of course those who care will take what we can get.
Behind? It doesn't do anything! There hasn't been a single useful scientific thing produced with the billions that have been pumped into that flying white elephant.
I got modded down for pointing out most taxpayers and scientists care far more about the Hubble telescope than they do about the Big Govt Boondoggle which is the space station.
Face it, real scientists care about useful things, not PR ops that do nothing.
we were talking about spam, so they can't seize your house for that.
Sadly...
Imagine the roaming hordes of homeless spam kings riding the rails... never knowing which city they will descend upon next, in their search for bandwidth and zombies to regain their former glory, beaten back by Open Source hackers at the city limits, and run out of town to be zTAR'd and FETHER'd when caught...
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Actually, I'd have to say, I think that around the time of the Performa, hackers did not exactly love Apple. That whole period between 1989 and 1997 left a lot to be desired, and it wasn't *simply* a lack of Steve Jobs as many would have you believe- he was there for a lot of that.
True, I think it was around that time that I bought my first non-Apple PCs.
Of course, now here in research we have some people doing Crystallography with miniMacs, and I've got an iMac at home as well as some PCs (Linux and Windoze). But I wouldn't call myself a hacker nowadays, so I'm not sure if it's as true.
I prefer the laws we have here. It doesn't matter what you do with your money.. the state can take all of it and sell your assets to the highest bidder to recover it (the principle being money gained illegaly does not belong to you). They also have the right to empty bank accounts, retirement plans, etc. and for the big cases can sqeeze the offshore accounts too (easy against some countries, less so against others).
Ah, don't know where here is... Canada or EU?
But here in the US if you live in Texas or Florida they can't even lay a claim on your house, no matter where the money came from, and if you incorporate you incur no real risk.
Sadly, we have about a 5 percent rate of actually collecting fines and legal penalties against multi-millionaires in real life here in the US.
the banks help you out, especially since everything you sank into your retirement plans, Social Security, and your house are NOT going to be taken away.
So, it's not really that bad, he still made out like a bandit.
Sigh.
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Very true. The first hacking I ever did was on an Apple II+ (with dual floppies and a RAM drive) using low-baud 110/300 modems. My next machine was a Mac SE with dual floppies and an extra external FAST SCSI hard drive with an unheard of 40MB storage (faster than the internal HD that shipped), crammed to the gills with RAM.
US Constitution, Article I, Section 8 (the powers of Congress), Clause 8: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
I just remember that the US Constitution reserves rights to the states, not the feds, no matter what the current regime desires.
Heck, I still have copyrighted software and magazines that will have my copyright 70 years after I die - and in my family we live about 100 years on average, so I'm expecting my copyrights will expire in 2130 or so. This is just plain wrong.
Perhaps, but it's not like the US is run any better - perhaps it's run far worse, if we use massive and overwhelming debt and fast-growing bureaucracy as a measure.
I can see it now - people will be playing The Sims, with their faces on top of better than average bodies -- ever notice in Sims: The Urbz noone is overweight even though most Americans are obese? -- as they avoid walking and talking to their neighbors IRT.
Sigh. The Decline and Fall of the American Empire - done in by porting the faces of overweight girls onto Natalie Portman's body and overweight boys onto Ryan Seacrest's body.
Then why not protect them by locking them up for 18 months without access to legal representation or due process of law? That's what happened to a bunch of middle easterners that weren't business partners with the Bush family.
Sshh, you're not supposed to question the TSA or you must not be On Our Side (TM).
Ok, photo voltaics for "Homeland Security". What kind of priority is this? Easier to get "funding" this way?
They actually mean satellite-based solar cells, so they can fire death lasers on the MIRVs that North Korea is using, in the hope that they're only single payload nukes with no anti-laser packages or stealth capability.
That's what they mean. You know, War is Peace, that kind of thing. It's a big black hole of debt.
I'm sure your grammar will be glad you found me out.
But it obviates my points that:
a. he actually teaches web search design and other e-commerce things like Google searching and pattern matches (how else do you think they target the ads at you?); and
b. he does encourage students to use Word spelling and grammar on their papers, and is trying to help MSFT improve on this.
it was just released yesterday that FOIA requests have released official documents showing the Saudis were shipped out of the USA when noone else could fly right after 9/11 by the FBI.
Sigh, don't you hate it when the conspiracy theorists are right...
1. Get some good business cards and a silver or aluminum business card holder to put them in. Present them held with two hands as if presenting a letter sealed by wax. When someone gives you one, treat it as a ceremony and place it reverently in the holder.
2. Hold your arms close to your body - do this all the time as if at attention.
3. YES does not mean yes. It means maybe. People will say Yes and not do what you think they agreed to a lot.
4. Food is very very important there - if someone invites you to eat, always accept and always try every dish offered - at least some. Yes, they make loud noises when eating - this means they like it - don't try to imitate this for a while until you understand when.
5. Small gifts are part of the whole respect thing, you're expected to choose something nice for people you work with.
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It is important to remember when talking about the space station that science and PR are not important. Most important is keeping smart ex-soviet rocket scientists from heading to some evil country (North Korea for example) where they would develop ICBMs in exchange for food. A secondary goal is to bring home the port for the more powerful politicians.
Sad, but true. But most are already working in other such countries anyway, so it's still a boondoggle. You could employ ten times as many if you just funded some research programs that did more useful things.
Science is just a handy cover. Every once in a while some is done too, but it isn't the goal and should not be expected, though of course those who care will take what we can get.
Ah, but since it's my taxes, it's my goal.
Behind? It doesn't do anything! There hasn't been a single useful scientific thing produced with the billions that have been pumped into that flying white elephant.
I got modded down for pointing out most taxpayers and scientists care far more about the Hubble telescope than they do about the Big Govt Boondoggle which is the space station.
Face it, real scientists care about useful things, not PR ops that do nothing.
Otherwise, why should the vast majority of taxpayers care?
i think the rule is that any Thomas decision is always the weakest argument amongst the Supremes.
we were talking about spam, so they can't seize your house for that.
...
... never knowing which city they will descend upon next, in their search for bandwidth and zombies to regain their former glory, beaten back by Open Source hackers at the city limits, and run out of town to be zTAR'd and FETHER'd when caught ...
Sadly
Imagine the roaming hordes of homeless spam kings riding the rails
Actually, I'd have to say, I think that around the time of the Performa, hackers did not exactly love Apple. That whole period between 1989 and 1997 left a lot to be desired, and it wasn't *simply* a lack of Steve Jobs as many would have you believe- he was there for a lot of that.
True, I think it was around that time that I bought my first non-Apple PCs.
Of course, now here in research we have some people doing Crystallography with miniMacs, and I've got an iMac at home as well as some PCs (Linux and Windoze). But I wouldn't call myself a hacker nowadays, so I'm not sure if it's as true.
I prefer the laws we have here. It doesn't matter what you do with your money.. the state can take all of it and sell your assets to the highest bidder to recover it (the principle being money gained illegaly does not belong to you). They also have the right to empty bank accounts, retirement plans, etc. and for the big cases can sqeeze the offshore accounts too (easy against some countries, less so against others).
... Canada or EU?
Ah, don't know where here is
But here in the US if you live in Texas or Florida they can't even lay a claim on your house, no matter where the money came from, and if you incorporate you incur no real risk.
Sadly, we have about a 5 percent rate of actually collecting fines and legal penalties against multi-millionaires in real life here in the US.
the banks help you out, especially since everything you sank into your retirement plans, Social Security, and your house are NOT going to be taken away.
So, it's not really that bad, he still made out like a bandit.
Sigh.
Very true. The first hacking I ever did was on an Apple II+ (with dual floppies and a RAM drive) using low-baud 110/300 modems. My next machine was a Mac SE with dual floppies and an extra external FAST SCSI hard drive with an unheard of 40MB storage (faster than the internal HD that shipped), crammed to the gills with RAM.
Hackers have always loved Apple.
But we use whatever we can get/afford.
US Constitution, Article I, Section 8 (the powers of Congress), Clause 8: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
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So 2130 is a limited time?
Maybe in your world
take away our FREEDO [POP! CRACKLE!]
**** TCP/IP Error
**** This domain has been revoked by the country of origin
**** Have a nice day
**** US Big Brother Is Watching You
I just remember that the US Constitution reserves rights to the states, not the feds, no matter what the current regime desires.
Heck, I still have copyrighted software and magazines that will have my copyright 70 years after I die - and in my family we live about 100 years on average, so I'm expecting my copyrights will expire in 2130 or so. This is just plain wrong.
Perhaps, but it's not like the US is run any better - perhaps it's run far worse, if we use massive and overwhelming debt and fast-growing bureaucracy as a measure.
and not small business, but Big Business.
sigh.
I can see it now - people will be playing The Sims, with their faces on top of better than average bodies -- ever notice in Sims: The Urbz noone is overweight even though most Americans are obese? -- as they avoid walking and talking to their neighbors IRT.
...
Sigh. The Decline and Fall of the American Empire - done in by porting the faces of overweight girls onto Natalie Portman's body and overweight boys onto Ryan Seacrest's body.
Now noone will go outside
I wuz tryin 2 show that Lotz of pipple dont uze spelczech or gramma czechingg.
So, I did neither.
Besides, it's supposed to have the ae run together, in most Romance languages and Auld Anglisch.
Go attend a spelling bee or something, your grammar wants you to.
Then why not protect them by locking them up for 18 months without access to legal representation or due process of law? That's what happened to a bunch of middle easterners that weren't business partners with the Bush family.
Sshh, you're not supposed to question the TSA or you must not be On Our Side (TM).
Ok, photo voltaics for "Homeland Security". What kind of priority is this? Easier to get "funding" this way?
They actually mean satellite-based solar cells, so they can fire death lasers on the MIRVs that North Korea is using, in the hope that they're only single payload nukes with no anti-laser packages or stealth capability.
That's what they mean. You know, War is Peace, that kind of thing. It's a big black hole of debt.
12. Misspelling 'Caesar'.
Well, actually, I was trying to mispel thinggs.
I'm sure your grammar will be glad you found me out.
But it obviates my points that:
a. he actually teaches web search design and other e-commerce things like Google searching and pattern matches (how else do you think they target the ads at you?); and
b. he does encourage students to use Word spelling and grammar on their papers, and is trying to help MSFT improve on this.
that he is speaking not to harm Ceasar, but to make Ceasar a better person:
...
From his Most common mistakes by students:
"10. Not running Microsoft Word's spelling and grammar check."
From this we gather that he does want people to use the spelinng and gramer czechs
and
"11. Assuming that Microsoft Word's spelling and grammar check will solve all writing problems."
Which leads us to believe that he has a purpose to this critique of MSFT Word grammar checking.
here's the link about the FBI lying about shipping the Saudis out, thanks to a post deeply embedded somewhere else.
Registration, sadly, is required to read it.
it was just released yesterday that FOIA requests have released official documents showing the Saudis were shipped out of the USA when noone else could fly right after 9/11 by the FBI.
...
Sigh, don't you hate it when the conspiracy theorists are right
But my guess is people will be lined up to get into EMP for a certain free rock CD release instead, so make sure you get in the correct line.
[based on a full page ad in The Stranger this week, but I don't think there's a URL for the ad yet]
1. Get some good business cards and a silver or aluminum business card holder to put them in. Present them held with two hands as if presenting a letter sealed by wax. When someone gives you one, treat it as a ceremony and place it reverently in the holder.
2. Hold your arms close to your body - do this all the time as if at attention.
3. YES does not mean yes. It means maybe. People will say Yes and not do what you think they agreed to a lot.
4. Food is very very important there - if someone invites you to eat, always accept and always try every dish offered - at least some. Yes, they make loud noises when eating - this means they like it - don't try to imitate this for a while until you understand when.
5. Small gifts are part of the whole respect thing, you're expected to choose something nice for people you work with.
Noone will tell you this to your face.
just like in other countries where they "allow" gender selection.
Everyone always focusses on themselves - noone ever thinks what this means for society.
[yes, the first sentence was ironically tinged]