You have to invent something to patent it! Say it ain't so! An awful lot of companies are going to go into panic over this! Why, it could threaten the entire patent holding industry!!
I've only bought one pre-built system in my life and have watched others with pre-builts. So many of these are packed with so much software that isn't needed by a most users that it degrades system performance and casues all kinds of conflicts. Frankly, I would rather the companies didn't bother. When I have often fixed pre-builts for friends, it has often involved junking a good chunk of the stuff that came with it. You get a far more stable and efficient machine when you build your own and only put on the software you want. If you don't have the skills to do it yourself, befriend a geek. You will be happier in the end.
Judging by the way these companies bog down windows machines, I would hate them to do this with linux. It might give linux a bad name if inefficient systems bogged down with too much crap hit the mainstream.
That will go over with Dell like a pregnant woman doing a pole vault... No percentage (that they would get with any other commercial office product) means no profit...
This is not a problem when you can go to http://conservapedia.com/. Who needs credentials when you can have all of the content of wikipedia without those pesky facts that require checking etc.
But there is a truth, which is that whenever I have seen anyone point out a flaw in a distro, there is always a small core that just tries to shut the person down. While many appreciate the the flaw being pointed out like the ubuntu people responding the recent 30 days with ubuntu article, others treat whoever posts flaws like they eat children. That is not good, it does keeps some from reporting issues or talking about it because they feel it is just opening a can of worms. Most people genuinely trying to be helpful walk away when it is not appreciated.
The government will invite the senators politely for coffee, listen to them, do a nice photo op, send them home and then go back to trying to gear up for the next election, trying to polish their image etc... The governemnt is inclined to do exactly... nothing
The Harper government has enough problems right now and has bigger problems than to try to introduce such a trivial piece of legislation. Especially when they are a minority government. This comes up every six weeks on slashdot. Something that should be taken into account is that as long as the governemnt is in a minority position, this issue is apt to be ignored.
Won't it create shortages in other states potentially? They have to be attracted from somewhere? If you waited for the teachers presently in the state to upgrade, it would probably take too long. Sounds to me like the recipe for cannibalization of the school system.
Really, Jobs charted Apple's return to profitability on positioning Apple as a multimedia media company. It's not that the computer side of the business is being neglected. It's that the thousands of ancilliary gadgets we are accumulating and the gowth of home entertainment is where the big moeny is and is going to be... No point in really fighting MS too hard on their turf, better to go after areas where there is money to be had. Apple is in the game to make money.
I thought htis was a study. It's just the ramblings of an academic.
The problem is that this is amero-centric and is not indicative of other cultures. There is no science here certainly to suggest that genetics are involved. In some cultures like Scandanavia, athiests outnumber the believers. In the US, it is asking for trouble to say you don't believe in a deity of some kind. Certainly it hampers your chances for public office if you are so inclined. Definitely hampers how people treat you in some small towns. This is philosophical musing, not a science (even if a scientist does the musing).
All it this piece really does illustrate that that humans are herd animals really.
Part of me would rather the government leave things as they are vis a vis some of the stuff Geist says they should be doing. By mucking about with the games stuff and other trivia they are not bothering with the MPAA and RIAA's sponsored Canadian proxies. As people here know, at present we can download music etc, etc nice and legal like and other stuff. While I would like some of the things Geist mentioned addressed, reality has taught me that once you involve the government that such things rarely go as you would like. Better to keep them distracted with this stuff.
Hmmm... the others seem to be busy. Let me take a crack at this.
You are a hateful M$ shill. Unsupplied hardware drivers are the manufacturer's fault only if you are talking about Linux. Otherwise, it is M$'s fault. Unless, of course, you are talking about Apple. Then, the pre-approved hardware only aspect is a glorious thing brought down from the mountain by the apostle Jobs. All else are heathens who shall burn in hell.
You are trying to stop the spread of linux and apple. You are a bad person. You eat babies and beat the homeless.
Is that okay? Sorry, I am new at this. I wanted to say something about your parentage and driving habits too, but I have to go let the dog out.
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Actually, the DX10 thing is no different than needing a DX9c card to get all the full visual glory of counterstrike or BF2 vs. a regular DX9 card. As the difference is in the instruction set, have you never wondered why video card manufacturers don't issue video bios updates to add the new instructions? It's because the manufacturer's want to sell you new cards. They could put in the software upgrade ability.
So DX10 only comes on vista... DX10 games won't be common for quite a while and more vid card choices will arrive that don't cost 500 bucks. If you must troll, make your arguments plausible. If you are just stupid, I apologize.
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As others have said. Enough of this crap. We all know it will take vista a year or so before it is truly ready... but the drivers are not MS's doing. The hardware vendors want you to buy new stuff so they don't support the old. MS has given them the tools to make the drivers, they just don't want to do it.
Frankly on a lot talk on this drivers issue is from people talking out of bopth sides of their mouth. People who blame the hardware manufacturers for a lack of Linux support seem to be the ones to blame MS for what is the hardware manufacturer's responsibility. You want to upgrade cause you like the tech, well go on-line and see if your old hardware is supported, and that includes printers and other peripherals. To not do so is just stupid. When I build a Linux box, I make sure the components are supported befire I buy them.
This is the same as the PS3 stuff. I have a Wii, I like it a lot. I will never buy a PS3. But enough of that stuff too. It is killing the variety of stories available on this site.
If vista is such a piece of crap, why bother trying to pirate it? Also, if the claimed numbers of pirated copies of windows out there are anywhere close to the truth, could the problems those people have be the result of not being able to patch and update their software? Are some people really blaming MS in many cases because their software won't work right when pirated?
I ask this because a) some keep saying it is crap, b) I have owned a variety of machines over the years and I never really had the kinds of problems people are complain about (nor have my friends and family) and c) every OS I've used has short comings and annoyances.
Again with this stuff... Anyone who knows this stuff knows to avoid any new MS OS for the first year. Wait for the service packs which address these issues... and then upgrade if you want. If you buy a new machine now... then yeah, you'll be likely stuck with it until the fixes come if you plan to run windows. Almost everything that has been written about vista is a carbon copy of xp when it first came out. I am even beginning to think some of these hacks have pulled out their old xp articles and changed the name to vista.
The drivers are really are not an MS problem. The vendors were provided with the specs to make their drivers ages ago and some are doing it and not others. The main reason a lot aren't doing it are because the would rather you buy new stuff from them! They are choosing not to make the driver. This, again, is no different than when xp came out. Many manufacturers use the release of a new MS OS as a cash cow by forcing people to buy new stuff by not supporting the old.
I am not defending these practices, I have just seen them happen over and over. If it comes right down to it, I run a mythbox and an xp machine. I've never had a problem with either. That is mainly because I build my own machines. Many people don't and get stuck. No Linux drivers for some stuff? Not a problem if you pick components that have support. That info is readily available. Ditto is the advice to stay away from vista until they get the stuff worked out.
As for the corporate side. Unless they were planning to upgrade machines at this time of year, they will not likely upgrade until their hardware replacement cycle comes due. As for MS, of course they are going to release new OS's. That's what they do. And the same problem happens each time. As always folks... let the early adopters take the bullet...
The anti-terrorism act is still there. Just a portion of the laws are being allowed to expire. Frankly, I never saw the point of the laws in the first place. If there ever was a real terrorist issue, we have enough criminals laws to deal with them. That is what they are... criminals. Sometimes they are better armed and organized than the average bear, but they can also be three kooks with an ax to grind.
Well, we know how that chant turned out. Seriously, XP sucked brand new out of the box too, and it has matured into a solid OS. So will Vista. Anyone who follows this kind of thing knows to wait a year. Kind of like not buying the first model year of a car. I'll pay more attention to this kind of thing in about a year when I look at rebuilding my box and putting in a new OS.
First reducing forces in Iraq, now this! What the hell is going on? Backstabbing limeys! You'd think they have their own country with their own laws and culture. Put them on the piracy watch list!
I wasn't trying to suggest the linux wouldn't be suitable, or even superior to the solution being used, just that this version of Win2K can't be compared to the commercial version. For example, there wouldn't be DRM because the system being used would never be anywhere near the net (Win2K never had it anyway) or have the software necessary to show movies or music. Likely this OS is solely dedicated to the particular tasks stated in the article.
As for control and security, I know that in such very secure systems, updates etc are more likely to be carried out by physically bringing the update media to the computer. If someone leaked the kernel info or other critical data, well, that would not be piracy, it would be treason. I think we all have an idea as to how that charge is handled. If you somehow found a way to hack your way into it, you would again, not be charged with hacking etc, but with espionage.
Interestingly, if they chose linux and borrowed and modified a piece of your GPL code to their purpose, you would never see it, be notified of it, or offered compensation. If you did hear about it, you could expect to be locked in a room and have a discussion about how you came to find out.
I doubt very much that this is the Win2K that you may have bought for your desktop. Many companies make products for consumers that differ greatly to those made for the military, police, and other services. My suspicion is that this is a highly customized install that will be considerably more limited and specialized. And yes, far more stable. The details of the customization, will no doubt, not be available to the press or public (and nor should they be).
As for the articles description of some of the systems out there that are being used by the militaries of the world. It's pretty accurate. I had a Vic20 that had more power than some of the systems still out there.
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If there is a way once you detect someone attaching to your wireless network to fry their computer remotely
You have to invent something to patent it! Say it ain't so! An awful lot of companies are going to go into panic over this! Why, it could threaten the entire patent holding industry!!
I've only bought one pre-built system in my life and have watched others with pre-builts. So many of these are packed with so much software that isn't needed by a most users that it degrades system performance and casues all kinds of conflicts. Frankly, I would rather the companies didn't bother. When I have often fixed pre-builts for friends, it has often involved junking a good chunk of the stuff that came with it. You get a far more stable and efficient machine when you build your own and only put on the software you want. If you don't have the skills to do it yourself, befriend a geek. You will be happier in the end.
Judging by the way these companies bog down windows machines, I would hate them to do this with linux. It might give linux a bad name if inefficient systems bogged down with too much crap hit the mainstream.
That will go over with Dell like a pregnant woman doing a pole vault... No percentage (that they would get with any other commercial office product) means no profit...
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No worries... and yes these guys are serious... frightingly so... I mean, they say segregation is a core American conservative value?
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This is not a problem when you can go to http://conservapedia.com/. Who needs credentials when you can have all of the content of wikipedia without those pesky facts that require checking etc.
But there is a truth, which is that whenever I have seen anyone point out a flaw in a distro, there is always a small core that just tries to shut the person down. While many appreciate the the flaw being pointed out like the ubuntu people responding the recent 30 days with ubuntu article, others treat whoever posts flaws like they eat children. That is not good, it does keeps some from reporting issues or talking about it because they feel it is just opening a can of worms. Most people genuinely trying to be helpful walk away when it is not appreciated.
The government will invite the senators politely for coffee, listen to them, do a nice photo op, send them home and then go back to trying to gear up for the next election, trying to polish their image etc... The governemnt is inclined to do exactly... nothing
The Harper government has enough problems right now and has bigger problems than to try to introduce such a trivial piece of legislation. Especially when they are a minority government. This comes up every six weeks on slashdot. Something that should be taken into account is that as long as the governemnt is in a minority position, this issue is apt to be ignored.
Won't it create shortages in other states potentially? They have to be attracted from somewhere? If you waited for the teachers presently in the state to upgrade, it would probably take too long. Sounds to me like the recipe for cannibalization of the school system.
Really, Jobs charted Apple's return to profitability on positioning Apple as a multimedia media company. It's not that the computer side of the business is being neglected. It's that the thousands of ancilliary gadgets we are accumulating and the gowth of home entertainment is where the big moeny is and is going to be... No point in really fighting MS too hard on their turf, better to go after areas where there is money to be had. Apple is in the game to make money.
I thought htis was a study. It's just the ramblings of an academic.
The problem is that this is amero-centric and is not indicative of other cultures. There is no science here certainly to suggest that genetics are involved. In some cultures like Scandanavia, athiests outnumber the believers. In the US, it is asking for trouble to say you don't believe in a deity of some kind. Certainly it hampers your chances for public office if you are so inclined. Definitely hampers how people treat you in some small towns. This is philosophical musing, not a science (even if a scientist does the musing).
All it this piece really does illustrate that that humans are herd animals really.
Part of me would rather the government leave things as they are vis a vis some of the stuff Geist says they should be doing. By mucking about with the games stuff and other trivia they are not bothering with the MPAA and RIAA's sponsored Canadian proxies. As people here know, at present we can download music etc, etc nice and legal like and other stuff. While I would like some of the things Geist mentioned addressed, reality has taught me that once you involve the government that such things rarely go as you would like. Better to keep them distracted with this stuff.
Hmmm... the others seem to be busy. Let me take a crack at this.
You are a hateful M$ shill. Unsupplied hardware drivers are the manufacturer's fault only if you are talking about Linux. Otherwise, it is M$'s fault. Unless, of course, you are talking about Apple. Then, the pre-approved hardware only aspect is a glorious thing brought down from the mountain by the apostle Jobs. All else are heathens who shall burn in hell.
You are trying to stop the spread of linux and apple. You are a bad person. You eat babies and beat the homeless.
Is that okay? Sorry, I am new at this. I wanted to say something about your parentage and driving habits too, but I have to go let the dog out.
Actually, the DX10 thing is no different than needing a DX9c card to get all the full visual glory of counterstrike or BF2 vs. a regular DX9 card. As the difference is in the instruction set, have you never wondered why video card manufacturers don't issue video bios updates to add the new instructions? It's because the manufacturer's want to sell you new cards. They could put in the software upgrade ability. So DX10 only comes on vista... DX10 games won't be common for quite a while and more vid card choices will arrive that don't cost 500 bucks. If you must troll, make your arguments plausible. If you are just stupid, I apologize.
As others have said. Enough of this crap. We all know it will take vista a year or so before it is truly ready... but the drivers are not MS's doing. The hardware vendors want you to buy new stuff so they don't support the old. MS has given them the tools to make the drivers, they just don't want to do it.
Frankly on a lot talk on this drivers issue is from people talking out of bopth sides of their mouth. People who blame the hardware manufacturers for a lack of Linux support seem to be the ones to blame MS for what is the hardware manufacturer's responsibility. You want to upgrade cause you like the tech, well go on-line and see if your old hardware is supported, and that includes printers and other peripherals. To not do so is just stupid. When I build a Linux box, I make sure the components are supported befire I buy them.
This is the same as the PS3 stuff. I have a Wii, I like it a lot. I will never buy a PS3. But enough of that stuff too. It is killing the variety of stories available on this site.
If vista is such a piece of crap, why bother trying to pirate it? Also, if the claimed numbers of pirated copies of windows out there are anywhere close to the truth, could the problems those people have be the result of not being able to patch and update their software? Are some people really blaming MS in many cases because their software won't work right when pirated? I ask this because a) some keep saying it is crap, b) I have owned a variety of machines over the years and I never really had the kinds of problems people are complain about (nor have my friends and family) and c) every OS I've used has short comings and annoyances.
Again with this stuff... Anyone who knows this stuff knows to avoid any new MS OS for the first year. Wait for the service packs which address these issues... and then upgrade if you want. If you buy a new machine now... then yeah, you'll be likely stuck with it until the fixes come if you plan to run windows. Almost everything that has been written about vista is a carbon copy of xp when it first came out. I am even beginning to think some of these hacks have pulled out their old xp articles and changed the name to vista.
The drivers are really are not an MS problem. The vendors were provided with the specs to make their drivers ages ago and some are doing it and not others. The main reason a lot aren't doing it are because the would rather you buy new stuff from them! They are choosing not to make the driver. This, again, is no different than when xp came out. Many manufacturers use the release of a new MS OS as a cash cow by forcing people to buy new stuff by not supporting the old.
I am not defending these practices, I have just seen them happen over and over. If it comes right down to it, I run a mythbox and an xp machine. I've never had a problem with either. That is mainly because I build my own machines. Many people don't and get stuck. No Linux drivers for some stuff? Not a problem if you pick components that have support. That info is readily available. Ditto is the advice to stay away from vista until they get the stuff worked out.
As for the corporate side. Unless they were planning to upgrade machines at this time of year, they will not likely upgrade until their hardware replacement cycle comes due. As for MS, of course they are going to release new OS's. That's what they do. And the same problem happens each time. As always folks... let the early adopters take the bullet...
Actually, no, it was not a confidence issue. Fret not, his timing is coming to an end anyway. It's only a matter of time.
The anti-terrorism act is still there. Just a portion of the laws are being allowed to expire. Frankly, I never saw the point of the laws in the first place. If there ever was a real terrorist issue, we have enough criminals laws to deal with them. That is what they are... criminals. Sometimes they are better armed and organized than the average bear, but they can also be three kooks with an ax to grind.
If the threat was more widespread, we always have the emergencies act ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act ) which replaced the war measures act ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Measures_Act ).
Well, we know how that chant turned out. Seriously, XP sucked brand new out of the box too, and it has matured into a solid OS. So will Vista. Anyone who follows this kind of thing knows to wait a year. Kind of like not buying the first model year of a car. I'll pay more attention to this kind of thing in about a year when I look at rebuilding my box and putting in a new OS.
First reducing forces in Iraq, now this! What the hell is going on? Backstabbing limeys! You'd think they have their own country with their own laws and culture. Put them on the piracy watch list!
I wasn't trying to suggest the linux wouldn't be suitable, or even superior to the solution being used, just that this version of Win2K can't be compared to the commercial version. For example, there wouldn't be DRM because the system being used would never be anywhere near the net (Win2K never had it anyway) or have the software necessary to show movies or music. Likely this OS is solely dedicated to the particular tasks stated in the article.
As for control and security, I know that in such very secure systems, updates etc are more likely to be carried out by physically bringing the update media to the computer. If someone leaked the kernel info or other critical data, well, that would not be piracy, it would be treason. I think we all have an idea as to how that charge is handled. If you somehow found a way to hack your way into it, you would again, not be charged with hacking etc, but with espionage.
Interestingly, if they chose linux and borrowed and modified a piece of your GPL code to their purpose, you would never see it, be notified of it, or offered compensation. If you did hear about it, you could expect to be locked in a room and have a discussion about how you came to find out.
I doubt very much that this is the Win2K that you may have bought for your desktop. Many companies make products for consumers that differ greatly to those made for the military, police, and other services. My suspicion is that this is a highly customized install that will be considerably more limited and specialized. And yes, far more stable. The details of the customization, will no doubt, not be available to the press or public (and nor should they be).
As for the articles description of some of the systems out there that are being used by the militaries of the world. It's pretty accurate.
I had a Vic20 that had more power than some of the systems still out there.