>> Personally I would like to think I have values that are essentially Christian in nature >> (i.e be nice etc etc:) but I don't believe in God (any gods).
> Without a firm belief in the power and love of our Lord then your so-called "values" are > meaningless, since the Bible teaches that values come from the worship of God and > following the teachings of his Church. Anyone espousing "values" in any other context is > just deluding themselves, crying out for love but trying to deny their subconscious > wish to be part of something greater.
I'm sorry, but in all respect, you are the one deluding themselves. You need to go back and listen to the most basic, and the most important of Christ's teachings: "Love one another, as you would love yourself." It does not say "You should love everyone else, because My Father wants you to." You forget that Jesus was not trying to start a new religion, He was trying to teach love for your fellow man. I agree with the first post quoted here. Christian does not mean worship of the Lord.
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Um, yeah. My initial thought exactly...
>> Personally I would like to think I have values that are essentially Christian in nature :) but I don't believe in God (any gods).
>> (i.e be nice etc etc
> Without a firm belief in the power and love of our Lord then your so-called "values" are
> meaningless, since the Bible teaches that values come from the worship of God and
> following the teachings of his Church. Anyone espousing "values" in any other context is
> just deluding themselves, crying out for love but trying to deny their subconscious
> wish to be part of something greater.
I'm sorry, but in all respect, you are the one deluding themselves. You need to go back and listen to the most basic, and the most important of Christ's teachings: "Love one another, as you would love yourself." It does not say "You should love everyone else, because My Father wants you to." You forget that Jesus was not trying to start a new religion, He was trying to teach love for your fellow man. I agree with the first post quoted here. Christian does not mean worship of the Lord.
> Germany is third of course because of that
> whole trying to take over the world thing
George Carlin: "Yeah, goddammit, 'cause that's OUR job!"
DUDE! I did /NOT/ need to see that!
I think he's just pointing out this is the last "Odd Day" for nearly a millenia. Those were odd days.
err... the 2 in 21 and 23? the 2 in 2001?