2. Those that call those in 1 geeks and publicly call Lucas a money-lubber, and then secretly watch it in the dark shroud of the night and wish to be Lucas himself.
I dont know who was the first person to use bigot on the discussion... I just got tired of all the people calling other people with religious values bigots and posted in the last post I managed to read without saying anything which happned to be yours. So I'm sorry but I'm not blowing steam off at you, just because it's you.
I am not saying we should lock up gays and call them deviants. But my rights stop where yours begin, and I shouldn't force my wants on you if it goes against your rights. Same way I see it as a right for kids to be adopted by hetero couples. And I am not telling you let's deny gay couples from having children.... I am telling you I am not agreeing with gay couples adopting children. I believe that there are enough hetero couples out there that are willing to adopt kids and give kids an environment which I deem more fit. Also the beauty of male and female is the diversity, and the different views and ways we have to tackle life. Having two moms or two dads (I am assuming a happy mom and dad, to be compared with two happy moms or two happy dad's) will limit the child's "exposure" to the other sex in a family environment.
I am not that saintly:).. and I speak my opinions with my friends gay or not. I am human and I sin. And about your point on abortion... I dont even find justified abortion because of rape... if a mother doesn't want the child she can give the child up for adoption. The child is not to blame for the rape.
I don't accept being called a bigot for a simple reason. I live in a democratic country, with a strong Roman Chatolic background (Malta, EU). We don't have divorce, let alone abortions or gay marriages. Our state is declared Roman Chatolic in the constitution. Which personally I think is an injustice to minorities. I think there should be a separation of state and church. We pride ourselves of being a european country, a new member of the European Union and we dont grant equal treatment to all religious creeds in our constitution.
If the distant day came in my country... which I highly doubt... that we were asked to vote for gay adoptions.. I would vote no. I won't go out protesting in the street or shout from a corner for ppl to repent. I would accept the desicion and carry on with my life. But I think I am allowed to have my morals and convictions as long as I respect those of others. Respecting other people does not mean agreeing to all they say and if I prefer something the way I find more correct I have a right to "fight" for it to be that way. You call that bigot behaviour ?
Yeah sure. Whatever... call everyone who has morals a stupid religious guy. I don't care. Cause I'm neither stupid... nor that much religious. If in your silly little head every religious person is a bigot just because he has some believes... I have no choice but accept you for that.
Now.. I am not that... I have both straight and gay friends. Some close frieds are gay. No one thinks i'm close minded or a bigot... so I'm sorry stranger if you think I am.... but frankly.. who cares.
As for that point about studies... Well...... studies have shown that Microsoft products are cheaper than Linux, that Microsoft is more secure and faster. So... excuse me if I dont marry the cause of people who like to paint being gay as something "cool" or "fashionable" and commercialise it to get a buck out of it.
1) I think children, if possible, should be given the opportunity to grow with their natural parents or at least one of them (and pls no-where i do metion marriage).
2) If that is not possible they should be given the opportunity to live with the closest thing to that... and oh let me see... last time I checked... it took male "stuff" and female "stuff" to create a baby... hey... I must have learnt something after all during my biology lessons.
I am sorry.... I know you probably live in a country where you give more importance to the life of a cat or lab-mouse that to that of an unborn child. So forgive me if I dont give a tiny rat's behind to you thinking i'm a bigot.
Having morals is bigotry ?? I am no saint. I don't always do what's right... and God knows I don't condemn people who don't.
I could go on and give you a whole long list of current issues and points that I don't really agree with in my faith... but I am not that big headed to think that just because an issue is current it is right.
Should the state permit gay marriages, divorces, promote the use of contraceptives... YES. Should the Roman Chatolic Church pretend that believers refrain.... YES!
You have a choice, you can embrace your faith as it is... or you can reject it. This is not a private golf club where you draw up your own rules.
A child should be given the opportunity to grow and develop in a habitat that is optimal, and I see a heterosexual relationship as being more optimal than a gay relationship. If you want to call that bigotry... you're welcome... but I don't agree.
And btw.... bigotry is defined as
"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."
So if you want to be a pro-gay (political) bigot and discard my ideas just to go on ranting about your point and keep calling me names..... be my guest
I have been called many things... but religous bigot is the first time.:)
Please not that I am not condemining anyone... but I would really like to know on what basis you are making your assumptions that love between gay couples is all pure and the love between a man and a woman can be a source of abuse. It just doesn't make sense. Given the fact that there are more heterosexual couples... it only normal that there are more messed up heterosexual. But it's not like it's candy land for gay couples.
Love between a gay couple can be as corrupted as that between a heterosexual couple. I dont think that love is something that depends on sexual orientation.
And don't go accusing anyone who doesn't agree with gay couples adopting as far right christians, or relgious bigots. I am neither one... nor the other.
You are free to rant and rave and compare humans to apes... I beg to fall out of the ape category.
And in your lound discussion... I just happned to noticed that NOT ONCE you happned to mention the rights that CHILDREN HAVE!!!!!
Now I don't give a damn if anyone is gay. I don't judge using that parameter. But last time I checked around me... male + female = offspring... ranging from bacteria to us enlightened creatures that like to call ourselves humans.
Should gay ppl get married ? Yes y not. Should children be made part of a gay marriage... I really find that difficult to swallow. I admit, i am Roman Chatolic and maybe my point of view has quite a religious backing it it. I consider myself in no way a bigot. I hate any kind of discrimination be it based on race, sexual orientation or whatever else you want to name.
But it just makes me go berserk.... that all you can mention is the rights of gay people.. without even considering the rights that children have. If gay people have there own children, and they grow them... well and good.. every child has the right to be grown by it's parent.. but I just can't see it right to let gay people adopt a child.
Shut up with the geek talk!!! What makes you so special ?? The fact that you post on slashdot and look at people from up to down ?? GROW UP! It's a business world... always was always will be. After all the geeks are the pirates... if it were up to geeks, there would be no more games, cause all the game companies would go bankrupt. So SHUT UP!!
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Complaining about a free service.... again... now THAT is new!! A little of gratitude never hurt anyone.. just my 2c.
There are two types of nerds:
1. Those that watch Star Wars and admit it openly
2. Those that call those in 1 geeks and publicly call Lucas a money-lubber, and then secretly watch it in the dark shroud of the night and wish to be Lucas himself.
Which type of nerd are you??
Thank you for your deep insight about Firefox and most detailed review.
I guess we will just have to deal with the fact that we will never agree on this topic. Maybe we can agree on this.
I dont know who was the first person to use bigot on the discussion... I just got tired of all the people calling other people with religious values bigots and posted in the last post I managed to read without saying anything which happned to be yours. So I'm sorry but I'm not blowing steam off at you, just because it's you.
I am not saying we should lock up gays and call them deviants. But my rights stop where yours begin, and I shouldn't force my wants on you if it goes against your rights. Same way I see it as a right for kids to be adopted by hetero couples. And I am not telling you let's deny gay couples from having children.... I am telling you I am not agreeing with gay couples adopting children. I believe that there are enough hetero couples out there that are willing to adopt kids and give kids an environment which I deem more fit. Also the beauty of male and female is the diversity, and the different views and ways we have to tackle life. Having two moms or two dads (I am assuming a happy mom and dad, to be compared with two happy moms or two happy dad's) will limit the child's "exposure" to the other sex in a family environment.
I am not that saintly :) .. and I speak my opinions with my friends gay or not. I am human and I sin. And about your point on abortion ... I dont even find justified abortion because of rape... if a mother doesn't want the child she can give the child up for adoption. The child is not to blame for the rape.
I don't accept being called a bigot for a simple reason. I live in a democratic country, with a strong Roman Chatolic background (Malta, EU). We don't have divorce, let alone abortions or gay marriages. Our state is declared Roman Chatolic in the constitution. Which personally I think is an injustice to minorities. I think there should be a separation of state and church. We pride ourselves of being a european country, a new member of the European Union and we dont grant equal treatment to all religious creeds in our constitution.
If the distant day came in my country... which I highly doubt... that we were asked to vote for gay adoptions.. I would vote no. I won't go out protesting in the street or shout from a corner for ppl to repent. I would accept the desicion and carry on with my life. But I think I am allowed to have my morals and convictions as long as I respect those of others. Respecting other people does not mean agreeing to all they say and if I prefer something the way I find more correct I have a right to "fight" for it to be that way. You call that bigot behaviour ?
Time for Mac Droids to wipe that god-like smuck grin off their face! Nothing is infallible i guess....
Yeah sure. Whatever ... call everyone who has morals a stupid religious guy. I don't care. Cause I'm neither stupid... nor that much religious. If in your silly little head every religious person is a bigot just because he has some believes... I have no choice but accept you for that.
Now .. I am not that ... I have both straight and gay friends. Some close frieds are gay. No one thinks i'm close minded or a bigot... so I'm sorry stranger if you think I am .... but frankly .. who cares.
As for that point about studies... Well ...... studies have shown that Microsoft products are cheaper than Linux, that Microsoft is more secure and faster. So ... excuse me if I dont marry the cause of people who like to paint being gay as something "cool" or "fashionable" and commercialise it to get a buck out of it.
1) I think children, if possible, should be given the opportunity to grow with their natural parents or at least one of them (and pls no-where i do metion marriage).
2) If that is not possible they should be given the opportunity to live with the closest thing to that ... and oh let me see ... last time I checked ... it took male "stuff" and female "stuff" to create a baby... hey... I must have learnt something after all during my biology lessons.
I am sorry.... I know you probably live in a country where you give more importance to the life of a cat or lab-mouse that to that of an unborn child. So forgive me if I dont give a tiny rat's behind to you thinking i'm a bigot.
Having morals is bigotry ?? I am no saint. I don't always do what's right... and God knows I don't condemn people who don't.
I could go on and give you a whole long list of current issues and points that I don't really agree with in my faith... but I am not that big headed to think that just because an issue is current it is right.
Should the state permit gay marriages, divorces, promote the use of contraceptives... YES. Should the Roman Chatolic Church pretend that believers refrain .... YES!
You have a choice, you can embrace your faith as it is ... or you can reject it. This is not a private golf club where you draw up your own rules.
A child should be given the opportunity to grow and develop in a habitat that is optimal, and I see a heterosexual relationship as being more optimal than a gay relationship. If you want to call that bigotry... you're welcome... but I don't agree.
And btw.... bigotry is defined as
"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."
So if you want to be a pro-gay (political) bigot and discard my ideas just to go on ranting about your point and keep calling me names..... be my guest
I have been called many things ... but religous bigot is the first time. :)
Please not that I am not condemining anyone... but I would really like to know on what basis you are making your assumptions that love between gay couples is all pure and the love between a man and a woman can be a source of abuse. It just doesn't make sense. Given the fact that there are more heterosexual couples ... it only normal that there are more messed up heterosexual. But it's not like it's candy land for gay couples.
Love between a gay couple can be as corrupted as that between a heterosexual couple. I dont think that love is something that depends on sexual orientation.
And don't go accusing anyone who doesn't agree with gay couples adopting as far right christians, or relgious bigots. I am neither one ... nor the other.
You are free to rant and rave and compare humans to apes... I beg to fall out of the ape category. And in your lound discussion ... I just happned to noticed that NOT ONCE you happned to mention the rights that CHILDREN HAVE!!!!!
Now I don't give a damn if anyone is gay. I don't judge using that parameter. But last time I checked around me ... male + female = offspring ... ranging from bacteria to us enlightened creatures that like to call ourselves humans.
Should gay ppl get married ? Yes y not. Should children be made part of a gay marriage ... I really find that difficult to swallow. I admit, i am Roman Chatolic and maybe my point of view has quite a religious backing it it. I consider myself in no way a bigot. I hate any kind of discrimination be it based on race, sexual orientation or whatever else you want to name.
But it just makes me go berserk .... that all you can mention is the rights of gay people.. without even considering the rights that children have. If gay people have there own children, and they grow them... well and good.. every child has the right to be grown by it's parent.. but I just can't see it right to let gay people adopt a child.
Shut up with the geek talk!!! What makes you so special ?? The fact that you post on slashdot and look at people from up to down ?? GROW UP! It's a business world ... always was always will be. After all the geeks are the pirates ... if it were up to geeks, there would be no more games, cause all the game companies would go bankrupt. So SHUT UP!!