Recently the biggest holding of Turkey (8b dollars/year) bought the apple importer from Komili, which is also huge but nothing changed.
Also, they figured the US dollar parity against Euro is sinking and made ALL PRICES Euro! They buy in dollars, sell it in Euros!
They also sold me the OSX Panther, which I could get for 20 dollars (G5 owner) if I was in USA for 40 euros! Which makes like 55 dollars I guess. Well, still not pirating...
Apple should review those European crooks/importers IMHO. Thats WHY Apple has less share in Europe btw.
I have MSN messenger and Yahoo messenger running here, its just a reason. Don't let me start about the geek coder masturbation tool Mozilla etc. Happy with Safari, which actually cares about end users.
Get exact spec RAMs, not from Mac dealers, from companies like Kingston etc. from a physical shop which can guarantee they will take it back if they don't work.
Macs need ram, thats all. Can install everything and run.
I mean, I wanted to tell as addition to the guy you replied sinistral:)
Quick Note: My P4 PC was literally burned because of lighting or something, donno,.
I hated MS operating systems while I loved Linux, especially damn barebone Slackware, but I couldn't use them for my usual computing experience.
The day my PC was dead, first I thought to buy new MB/CPU and still alive, 1 gig of RDRAM but I saw RDRAM was kind of abandoned by Intel on home-grade PCs
Than I figured I hate MS but because of some matters I have to use some of their software... I didn't know how long those "copy DLL" Wine method will go on, so I checked the Mac.
Personally I wanted a dual G4 but thanks to friends provocating me, it turned to be 1600 Mhz G5. Than added ram, to its funny standard 256 mb, making it 768. Oh, yes, no need to buy from apple, bought exact match of kingstons.
Now I have a desktop, which is supported by ALL major companies, the gcc and a giant like Apple behind my back. Like nobody dares not to allow Mac users to their sites since the profile is A+/AB (advertising profile).
Install linux on it? No. Why? It seems, Linux and the developers are very far away from desktop. E.g. ask some fix for mozilla, 3 morons pops up and tells 'so, you code it, where is the patch?!", I don't believe I really have to listen to such geek shit while I have money etc.
BTW, to note again, this is a home machine, used on real stupid but needed things and also I am a video editor.
"When someone mentioned "slow, bloated, and leaking memory", I assumed he was talking about Netscape, not AOL."
Yes AC replying to my "troll' post, I have ns 4.76 here came with Mac OS 9 compatability installation here and never does such things like flooding memory etc. It works!
I really wonder how, especially after my post is marked "troll".
It uses amazingly less memory and works, so if there is anything wrong with "open source" one? This time I really deserve the troll , no kidding.
Get the lowest version of Java you can get from Sun. The browser plugin one and remember it will make your OS mad. I remember it was coming with the Opera 4 or 3
See how fast it runs...
Thats why MS one is so fast. Its like comparing win 3.1 to win32 or even NT.
Now the Java has even hardware accelerated 3d (java3d). Some companies are trying stuff on it.
Oh, its not MS Java 'old code', it is new, has even P4 or (amazingly) IA 64 optimizations, the "java virtual machine version" is old.
I have even paid for Java relying code (Thinkfree Office) and let me give an example, on OSX which I use it on now, G5 mac/768 ram, damn app launches faster than the trial ms office OSX I have here!
There are many more examples I can give but topic isn't about Java.
Oh, btw, since Apple changed how embedded java in browser should work on late releases, browsers other than Safari (Apple one) is stuck with 1.3.1 instead of 1.4.x...
Don't tell stuff like that... Remember, Netscape is from "evil" company, whatever such evil companies do, we should never admire them. Entire source is open? Closed/commercial part is coded by people who we know and IRC chat even? Nevermind. Its from AOL.
Another example could be Real Networks.
At last AOL dropped the entire browser thing. Forget that 2M even. So I hope the geeks are happy.
In otherway, with Firefox whatever, Netscape 8 would ship instantly, usual bribes, ahem download listings/ads given to those major 10 websites and the opensource loving community would benefit too. No site with brain could reject coding for gecko which is simply web standards...
Anyways, the evil "AOL" is gone...;)
ps: Its not really "flaming" your post I hope you understood.
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What kind of a troll you are and how you managed to get +5 insightful is beyond my understanding.
;)
Oh wait! This is slashdot!
Your iBook is broken, get it to service and let them fix it.
Thats all, the poster wasted keystrokes replying to you.
That one I can agree from Istanbul Turkey.
Recently the biggest holding of Turkey (8b dollars/year) bought the apple importer from Komili, which is also huge but nothing changed.
Also, they figured the US dollar parity against Euro is sinking and made ALL PRICES Euro! They buy in dollars, sell it in Euros!
They also sold me the OSX Panther, which I could get for 20 dollars (G5 owner) if I was in USA for 40 euros! Which makes like 55 dollars I guess. Well, still not pirating...
Apple should review those European crooks/importers IMHO. Thats WHY Apple has less share in Europe btw.
ROTFLMAO
That was good, now offtopic me...
But damn, I really laughed...
Hey Flamebaiter
I have MSN messenger and Yahoo messenger running here, its just a reason. Don't let me start about the geek coder masturbation tool Mozilla etc. Happy with Safari, which actually cares about end users.
Hi.
;)
It seems Fink does all. Its like Debian Apt-Get which gets source, makes all patches (especially on makefile) and compiles/installs.
It worked here so far, except I had problems with my local keyboard than proved to be problem with Apple X11.
Can get/compile XFree too btw. Just if I was interested in X11
The power of OSX also comes from the development tools you get with a commercial OS, for free. It has even XCode IDE.
Get exact spec RAMs, not from Mac dealers, from companies like Kingston etc. from a physical shop which can guarantee they will take it back if they don't work.
:)
Macs need ram, thats all. Can install everything and run.
I mean, I wanted to tell as addition to the guy you replied sinistral
Quick Note: My P4 PC was literally burned because of lighting or something, donno,.
I hated MS operating systems while I loved Linux, especially damn barebone Slackware, but I couldn't use them for my usual computing experience.
The day my PC was dead, first I thought to buy new MB/CPU and still alive, 1 gig of RDRAM but I saw RDRAM was kind of abandoned by Intel on home-grade PCs
Than I figured I hate MS but because of some matters I have to use some of their software... I didn't know how long those "copy DLL" Wine method will go on, so I checked the Mac.
Personally I wanted a dual G4 but thanks to friends provocating me, it turned to be 1600 Mhz G5. Than added ram, to its funny standard 256 mb, making it 768. Oh, yes, no need to buy from apple, bought exact match of kingstons.
Now I have a desktop, which is supported by ALL major companies, the gcc and a giant like Apple behind my back. Like nobody dares not to allow Mac users to their sites since the profile is A+/AB (advertising profile).
Install linux on it? No. Why? It seems, Linux and the developers are very far away from desktop. E.g. ask some fix for mozilla, 3 morons pops up and tells 'so, you code it, where is the patch?!", I don't believe I really have to listen to such geek shit while I have money etc.
BTW, to note again, this is a home machine, used on real stupid but needed things and also I am a video editor.
Can get/compile NFS too. Even with --fast option, which produces G5 spesific. Er, not?
just a user, sorry...
I hope it never does.
"When someone mentioned "slow, bloated, and leaking memory", I assumed he was talking about Netscape, not AOL."
Yes AC replying to my "troll' post, I have ns 4.76 here came with Mac OS 9 compatability installation here and never does such things like flooding memory etc. It works!
I really wonder how, especially after my post is marked "troll".
It uses amazingly less memory and works, so if there is anything wrong with "open source" one? This time I really deserve the troll , no kidding.
Heh
I wouldn't give a single cent to such reply...
It works fine, company is friendly, backed by IBM, Trolltech and Nokia, I'd care less about "future" of Opera.
BTW, I paid. There are situations you don't have to pay for Opera, not cracking, much more legal ways...
Keep on geek browsing, it runs in latest Mercedes 600'es even. WITHOUT compromising the standards.
I'd better pay for a browser "like a stupid" instead of being in same community with your kind of people.
I bet your post is +5 while mine will sink to -1 but I'd care less about some "karma" thing before telling my opinion.
Guess what? Your kind of "fans" make Mozilla suck.
You are on slashdot, nobody will have balls to like Opera, a closed source browser even if it follows standards.
Wrong site I would say...
(a registered Opera user)
Mac IE will never do those stuff its standards compliant supporting much more than its win part.
Its the real thing MS should ship imho but anyway..
There is no taskbar in OSX let alone taskbar clutter. Could be "window clutter"? Its solved too, that "Expose" thang.
Testing it for hours, no, this browser is not for me. It couldn't even identify a realnetworks file and let listen to it via realone/osx.
Yes, we stupid foreigner Apple users even subscribe to Radiopass of Real to listen our fav USA radios in broadband...
That would be the reply of a reply if I sent a bug report to mozilla.org.
They generally like to reply "So where is the patch?"
"The growing number of security holes in IE does nothing but help as well. :-)"
I am a my yahoo user, whenever I check the IE bugs for fun, those embedded market values appear.
In such a freaky situation of MyDoom even, damn MSFT rises!..
Any finance geek here to explain this freakness?
Its like "Ford brakes proved not to work in snow" and Ford shares rise...
Just watch releases, konq still didn't insert Apple mods to khtml rendering fully.
It will become huge news soon. Speaking from OSX, thing (Safari) became more compatible than IE itself even on some sites.
imho (as an end, newbie osx user) I would say we should test/ give our time to Camino nightlies.
IMHO, Camino is the one (nightlies) we OSX users should test, send bug reports etc.
Firewhatever will work fine, its the Camino who utilizes the OSX GUI api..
Get the lowest version of Java you can get from Sun. The browser plugin one and remember it will make your OS mad. I remember it was coming with the Opera 4 or 3
See how fast it runs...
Thats why MS one is so fast. Its like comparing win 3.1 to win32 or even NT.
Now the Java has even hardware accelerated 3d (java3d). Some companies are trying stuff on it.
Oh, its not MS Java 'old code', it is new, has even P4 or (amazingly) IA 64 optimizations, the "java virtual machine version" is old.
I have even paid for Java relying code (Thinkfree Office) and let me give an example, on OSX which I use it on now, G5 mac/768 ram, damn app launches faster than the trial ms office OSX I have here!
There are many more examples I can give but topic isn't about Java.
Oh, btw, since Apple changed how embedded java in browser should work on late releases, browsers other than Safari (Apple one) is stuck with 1.3.1 instead of 1.4.x...
Don't tell stuff like that... Remember, Netscape is from "evil" company, whatever such evil companies do, we should never admire them. Entire source is open? Closed/commercial part is coded by people who we know and IRC chat even? Nevermind. Its from AOL.
;)
Another example could be Real Networks.
At last AOL dropped the entire browser thing. Forget that 2M even. So I hope the geeks are happy.
In otherway, with Firefox whatever, Netscape 8 would ship instantly, usual bribes, ahem download listings/ads given to those major 10 websites and the opensource loving community would benefit too. No site with brain could reject coding for gecko which is simply web standards...
Anyways, the evil "AOL" is gone...
ps: Its not really "flaming" your post I hope you understood.
Oh yes, AOL execs phoned them everyday to make browser suck.
You geeks have no clue what would happen if Netscape branded Firefox shipped with AIM, free offline Webmail etc
Its a mozilla story, many fanatics, posting as AC.
They can't even take critism let alone coding a browser.
No! Instead put W3C logo at bottom that it complies to W3C standards completely... at bottom of slashdot..
http://validator.w3.org/
Wait a minute..
If I remember, Netscape 4 for Mac had this (although I'm not sure if it made it into Mozilla, or Netscape 6).
No sadly it didn't
Also Safari needs lots of publicity to get accepted in such sites
Mozillazine, that mozilla fanatic site...
As well as the other site hating from Mozilla, I don't care about them. Both fanatics
Also imho if Mozilla wants to progress it should get rid of such fanatics and listen to people who dislike Moz for some reason.
Mozilla 1.6 manages to flood an 64bit cpu (G5) and make my G5 sound like a jet...
Anyways