I remember their JVM before becoming evil was better than Sun JVM, supporting 64bit really early times. I also remember some developer friends say "Hey, now I can check that Java thing."
Of course, they couldn`t become the standard on Java virtual machine, they had to "embrace and extend" it so it became 500 million dollar court thing for them. I keep wondering how people in charge of such stupid decisions can stay in management.
They must be really patient people who has decent gift of ignoring "community". Them and to some extent, real networks who did nothing but favour to Linux community and desktop users especially with Helix project. You see the "thank you"(!) they get from the community whenever their name got mentioned.
Last time, Real offered million dollar worth patents to GPL projects for free and all I read was some lifeless idiots whining "spyware" on Slashdot. Same goes for Java which is GPL now.
IE 5.2.x which has become a security threat because it is not updated can still run on Leopard flawlessly without a single warning at console.
When they let Developers do their job without adding any "evil", they can produce great software and in fact, community supports them in process too. Mac users have chosen IE over Netscape without anyone forcing them. IE was basically way more standards compliant and trouble free. Of course, it was just an "app" in/Applications , nothing like Windows junk.
Office as you mention always keeps up with whatever API Apple recommends and the latest one actually is Cocoa application built with stock XCode as far as I followed. Mac community pays back too, it is always on top spot at Apple top seller software. When you mention it, people doesn`t believe you. It is a good way of explaining developers why they should ignore certain loudmouth people.
As nobody can convince me that MS doesn`t know how to code for PowerPC, Silverlight story is the one which the "evil" factor got intervened in process. They released V1, we said "OK, stop being anti MS, lets see this thing" and it was OK as a plugin. Than, V2 shipped dropping PowerPC support while Adobe moved to parallel processing in Flash 10 for PPC. Now, that is what happens when the evil gangs inside that large company goes into action.
I know XCode is great, mini OS X is great but there is no reason to prison yourself to a single device from a single company with a single app store.
Look to Nokia 5800 at least or that touch thing from Blackberry. Release same application on them. It is amazing that people ignores these devices which sold millions especially Nokia ones since clearly Symbian Foundation will be a huge thing, more huge than you can imagine right now. We are speaking about a dirt cheap OS coming with a UI library already in use by thousands of apps and an entire Desktop environment itself named "Qt".
It is like shooting TV series with Fox in mind and begging them to air it, without any kind of promise. You could say to them "Look Fox, NBC is already calling us, what is your decision?".
For example, Skype managed to make entire Symbian community hate them by promising a S60 version for years and never releasing it except some joke like version on some British cell provider not allowing calls on 3G or Wifi. They made Fring the de facto standard for Skype calls and Fring doesn`t even bother with their official SDK. Now, if Apple decides Skype is bad for iPhone and reject their new version, they will sure whine. It would be way better if they had a working S60 version in use on millions of Symbian handsets. That guy rejecting app would think twice since Nokia owners would say "get a real smart phone" to iPhone owners. Skype could have an example in hand and they could even use it to force Apple to allow some features. For example, Video calling over IP solutions already started to appear in Symbian market, good luck making Apple allowing such thing on app store.
Express settings are way more than browser, it is almost like a spyware install carefully hiding options.
If you express install IE 8, you are basically owned by their Live services. Search, homepage, "look up", "blog", "look on map". All are Microsoft properties which are horribly unpopular compared to other options.
It is way more than "default browser" setting. They really lost it this time since monopoly court is still watching them with EU guys are already on them.
I wonder if MS fired the team responsible for that scandal (IE 8) that even their best buddies didn't like and the decision to pull a trick even Real Networks gave up.
"If user has installed me over automated windows update and has another browser selected by default, don't touch his settings".
How hard it is? It is really malicious and nothing else, the team, managers, all must be fired unless they publicly apologize.
Their action, while at court with EU could cost them millions if not billion. Yes, that childish action has potential to cost them. I am sure EU officials already added it to their files.
BTW MS, we noticed you hired some AC guys, tell them to post a bit later defending your actions. First 3-4 posts coming from fake AC accounts (paid accounts in fact) really shows too much.
Funny is 4 KB app manages to do HDTV and your AV solution being thousands (if not millions) times bigger can't figure the difference between a trojan and packed executable. That is in case it is even packed.
I would hire Mr. Avenaim to have a decent photo of my client if I was PR guy of some artist and release it on Wiki, one of World's top 10 sites and becoming de-facto entertainment information site.
Of course, contract would require him to shut up about his ideas about Wiki;)
There is a reason why IMDB insists on these conditions for a basic headshot:
"You may submit a resume and photos for yourself or an authorized representative may submit them on your behalf. Examples of authorized representatives include your agent, your publicist, your parent, or even a friend you asked to help you because you're no good with computers, just so long as they have your express permission. If you're submitting a resume or photos for a person who is deceased, you must be that person's heir or have permission from their heir(s)."
Note that, that is the policy which disallows fans to submit photos even if they paid $25 for a "pro" account.
The reason is simple, even some artists specific photos are owned by the movie company or the producers of that movie.
So, these photoshop geniuses with high end cameras should ask their lawyers if they could actually release them.
I have dealt with a Wiki editor for a celebrity photo and I haven't seen anything managed that professionally on the web. Perhaps only some very big Hollywood company could reach that kind of strict policy. They should have checked how the photos being in Wiki end up there, the process and they would agree me.
A last note for them: Maintain your own portfolios on your own sites, Wiki is not a advertisement site.
I don't use Windows for a long time but when I read "Kazaa", "spyware" term comes to my mind instantly.
I don't know if Kazaa was spyware itself or people were downloading some.exe junk with it to get infected but really, Kazaa simply doesn't exist in anyone's "brand memory" anymore.
I would be really hesitant to let some service coming with that brand name store my credit card, e-mail and home address.
Again, not really using Win since 2003 but I was quite phobic about Kazaa name. I can still remember that name after all these years.
Napster didn't have any kind of "spyware" story while it was really Napster so it had some kind of brand recognition. In case of Kazaa, it just reminds some "Ilgaz" guy spyware. That is why I remember the name anyway.
With P2P, you don't have to think about the bill coming from Akamai.
So, for example, if pirates offer 720P heavily compressed and transcoded junk, offer 1080p with 7.1 sound directly from masters themselves.
Or they offer FLAC? Offer 24bit 5.1 version with a special key to attend band's concerts 25% cheaper.
I would take a mpeg 2 DVD over pirated avi just because of picture and sound quality, extras, convinience. Most of DVD buyers aren't that technically illirate, they know they can download it freely but they choose DVD for similar reasons.
They will have the name of a notorious spyware and won't use any kind of features coming with P2P. They will put the exact same junk as pirates with the added DRM which will probably be wmedia based (so, there goes macs) and horrible compression and even taking Apple as example, stereo, relying on Pro Logic II.
I really started to wonder what kind of web this noscript lobby is browsing.
Every single damn bug found with every single lamer, they come here and lobby about noscript. I started to look for =referrer in URLs seriously.
If an updated browser (yes, I keep FF) can't work safely without turning off a central web feature, I move to another browser. Simple as that. Or, I use a decent AV solution which will have state of art heuristics enough to figure it out and stay away from random sites until bug fixed.
I use Omniweb now but Firefox has really became some kind of "internet operating system" these days with web services which would not exist if javascript didn't exist.
If one is that paranoid, there is no need for extensions. ANY site can be hacked for example to inject malicious code. Turn Javascript off and enjoy your nerd browsing.
Seriously, we aren't stupid, some of us are old enough to remember first javascript enabled version of netscape. Enough with noscript advertisements.
I would really love to hear your opinion about the other Royal (UK) navy's use of Windows on Destroyers and Nuclear submarines and even (kind of) bragging about it.
I mean, if it is not non ethical or anything else stops you.
What is your guess? Do they use Windows clients to a real operating system like UNIX or it is actually pure Windows? What would Dutch army/ask say if you went crazy and proposed using Windows replacing *NIX? They would sure do a triple background check on you right?
A good AV will detect unknown threats and zero day attacks even before you read about them. If combined with a good firewall, they will detect any form of data leakage, at least in unencyripted form which is the most common.
There is amazing level of virtualisation, heuristics on commercial products like Kaspersky to the point of actually having a virtual machine in them and transparently launching suspicious application in that locked down machine before granting it some kind of "gray" level unless it changes.
There is also white list concept. Known products from known companies are scanned lightly and watched for things they shouldn't be doing. So, it is not like "every file scanned". File is scanned in different degrees.
Windows is so popular and known by black hats so "I don't run as admin" or "signed apps only" isn't enough anymore.
So, a person who can do mad things like ring -1 and knows about -2 -3 attacks who also happens to be a professional security researcher doesn't use AV and "doesn't see need for it."
This is the most irresponsible thing I have ever heard. Does average user have knowledge of system internals like she does? Does average user can stand the torture of 3 virtual machines? Could average user get rid of "run as admin" even on upcoming Windows 7, especially if he/she is a gamer?
This is more like a Medical Doctor bragging about how he never used any pills or went to a doctor and "doesn't see need for it".
She should browse some average user troubleshooting forums and see the junk non technical people are being victim of. No, they really don't know the privilege levels or CPU rings.
I understand the DEP (data execution prevention) enabled processors weren't common back in Windows XP days but what is the deal with Windows 7 even 64bit version? Why wouldn't MS enable it by default as it is said to prevent very serious attacks on CPU level, without slowing down the system at all?
While there are no real viruses on OS X yet, I try to prepare machines for "no AV needed even while viruses exist" configuration just like you with couple of extra admin prompts, that is all but I don't follow Windows scene too much.
After enabling DEP, I even gamed on Windows 7 64bit (game is even running under win2k compatibility) and I haven't seen anything bad happen. I remember some stupid HP driver on another machine crashed because of DEP but that was all, the error message was really informative too.
So, do they disable it to make couple of badly written software owners happy while 99% would benefit from it?
I actually need DRM content from Sony. Buying books for 20 dollars and giving 30 dollars to DHL for safe shipping to this place is really absurd. I hate piracy too so, I could end up buying a Windows for Virtual Machine and buy books from Sony.
It is amazing that Sony and others miss the fact that iTunes Music store actually took off on OS X/Mac. Mac users were the ones who paid for legitimate content enough to keep iTunes/iPod afloat in first years.
You don't need to make up story. He spoke about "boiling teenagers in oil" , call the police and say you read a guy talking about boiling teenagers in oil "in an hackers forum".
If they come to his house and land a helicopter on his lawn, he will remember this message.
BTW, I am not joking. It may actually happen as I know how police mind works. There is a low rank police friend of mine which I joke as "rescue me from police station" each time I call. Guy knows me for 30 years and every single fscking time, he asks "What did you do again?". Notice the "again" part!
I think everyone misses the point that no law is impossible to change or remove.
So blaming John Major even after Blair elected and did nothing about it doesn't make any sense.
I would be just like Obama, keeping Guantanamo open even with more torture and blaming W. Bush for Guantanamo while he can easily close it down. (which he did or something)
I respect to Ulrich way more than those assholes hiding somewhere and let house wives pay millions for their pirated tracks.
Right or not (IMHO he was trolled big time), at least he went there and openly said what he was thinking.
Man they are such stupid that nobody had the evil idea of amazing cheap PR move. "We, as a band, protest this ridiculous case and we will cover her monetarily whatever it costs.". That exact moment, you are a hero even while you are an evil bastard who just looks for cheap (yes,compare to others) PR.
I just wonder one thing. How many billions of dollars in public relations did RIAA lose with that ridiculous mp3 case and Pirate Bay case?
Calculate this way. How many billions of dollars must music industry spend in advertising, donations, public apologies to fix their image and the artists they claim to represent?
I somehow think it is impossible but I better ask anyway. It must be billions even if it is possible. Way more than couple of millions.
To add to your comment for the real brain dead not understanding what this means:
Amazon can make NY Times (on Kindle) NOT having this story tomorrow. Yes, a NY Times not having this story and you don't have any right to bitch about it.
Books were confiscated, books (and theis authors) burned but nobody could remotely change a book until now.
Slashdot Mirror
I remember their JVM before becoming evil was better than Sun JVM, supporting 64bit really early times. I also remember some developer friends say "Hey, now I can check that Java thing."
Of course, they couldn`t become the standard on Java virtual machine, they had to "embrace and extend" it so it became 500 million dollar court thing for them. I keep wondering how people in charge of such stupid decisions can stay in management.
They must be really patient people who has decent gift of ignoring "community". Them and to some extent, real networks who did nothing but favour to Linux community and desktop users especially with Helix project. You see the "thank you"(!) they get from the community whenever their name got mentioned.
Last time, Real offered million dollar worth patents to GPL projects for free and all I read was some lifeless idiots whining "spyware" on Slashdot. Same goes for Java which is GPL now.
IE 5.2.x which has become a security threat because it is not updated can still run on Leopard flawlessly without a single warning at console.
When they let Developers do their job without adding any "evil", they can produce great software and in fact, community supports them in process too. Mac users have chosen IE over Netscape without anyone forcing them. IE was basically way more standards compliant and trouble free. Of course, it was just an "app" in /Applications , nothing like Windows junk.
Office as you mention always keeps up with whatever API Apple recommends and the latest one actually is Cocoa application built with stock XCode as far as I followed. Mac community pays back too, it is always on top spot at Apple top seller software. When you mention it, people doesn`t believe you. It is a good way of explaining developers why they should ignore certain loudmouth people.
As nobody can convince me that MS doesn`t know how to code for PowerPC, Silverlight story is the one which the "evil" factor got intervened in process. They released V1, we said "OK, stop being anti MS, lets see this thing" and it was OK as a plugin. Than, V2 shipped dropping PowerPC support while Adobe moved to parallel processing in Flash 10 for PPC. Now, that is what happens when the evil gangs inside that large company goes into action.
I know XCode is great, mini OS X is great but there is no reason to prison yourself to a single device from a single company with a single app store.
Look to Nokia 5800 at least or that touch thing from Blackberry. Release same application on them. It is amazing that people ignores these devices which sold millions especially Nokia ones since clearly Symbian Foundation will be a huge thing, more huge than you can imagine right now. We are speaking about a dirt cheap OS coming with a UI library already in use by thousands of apps and an entire Desktop environment itself named "Qt".
It is like shooting TV series with Fox in mind and begging them to air it, without any kind of promise. You could say to them "Look Fox, NBC is already calling us, what is your decision?".
For example, Skype managed to make entire Symbian community hate them by promising a S60 version for years and never releasing it except some joke like version on some British cell provider not allowing calls on 3G or Wifi. They made Fring the de facto standard for Skype calls and Fring doesn`t even bother with their official SDK. Now, if Apple decides Skype is bad for iPhone and reject their new version, they will sure whine. It would be way better if they had a working S60 version in use on millions of Symbian handsets. That guy rejecting app would think twice since Nokia owners would say "get a real smart phone" to iPhone owners. Skype could have an example in hand and they could even use it to force Apple to allow some features. For example, Video calling over IP solutions already started to appear in Symbian market, good luck making Apple allowing such thing on app store.
Express settings are way more than browser, it is almost like a spyware install carefully hiding options.
If you express install IE 8, you are basically owned by their Live services. Search, homepage, "look up", "blog", "look on map". All are Microsoft properties which are horribly unpopular compared to other options.
It is way more than "default browser" setting. They really lost it this time since monopoly court is still watching them with EU guys are already on them.
I love how they gave it a KB number so poor user should think it is part of system functionality or some kind of something gets updated.
I wonder if MS fired the team responsible for that scandal (IE 8) that even their best buddies didn't like and the decision to pull a trick even Real Networks gave up.
"If user has installed me over automated windows update and has another browser selected by default, don't touch his settings".
How hard it is? It is really malicious and nothing else, the team, managers, all must be fired unless they publicly apologize.
Their action, while at court with EU could cost them millions if not billion. Yes, that childish action has potential to cost them. I am sure EU officials already added it to their files.
BTW MS, we noticed you hired some AC guys, tell them to post a bit later defending your actions. First 3-4 posts coming from fake AC accounts (paid accounts in fact) really shows too much.
Funny is 4 KB app manages to do HDTV and your AV solution being thousands (if not millions) times bigger can't figure the difference between a trojan and packed executable. That is in case it is even packed.
What about using a gigabit or even 100mbit drive at your neighbor granting him/her same right explaining the benefits?
Every backup tool has encryption support too.
I would hire Mr. Avenaim to have a decent photo of my client if I was PR guy of some artist and release it on Wiki, one of World's top 10 sites and becoming de-facto entertainment information site.
Of course, contract would require him to shut up about his ideas about Wiki ;)
There is a reason why IMDB insists on these conditions for a basic headshot:
"You may submit a resume and photos for yourself or an authorized representative may submit them on your behalf. Examples of authorized representatives include your agent, your publicist, your parent, or even a friend you asked to help you because you're no good with computers, just so long as they have your express permission. If you're submitting a resume or photos for a person who is deceased, you must be that person's heir or have permission from their heir(s)."
Note that, that is the policy which disallows fans to submit photos even if they paid $25 for a "pro" account.
The reason is simple, even some artists specific photos are owned by the movie company or the producers of that movie.
So, these photoshop geniuses with high end cameras should ask their lawyers if they could actually release them.
I have dealt with a Wiki editor for a celebrity photo and I haven't seen anything managed that professionally on the web. Perhaps only some very big Hollywood company could reach that kind of strict policy. They should have checked how the photos being in Wiki end up there, the process and they would agree me.
A last note for them: Maintain your own portfolios on your own sites, Wiki is not a advertisement site.
I don't use Windows for a long time but when I read "Kazaa", "spyware" term comes to my mind instantly.
I don't know if Kazaa was spyware itself or people were downloading some .exe junk with it to get infected but really, Kazaa simply doesn't exist in anyone's "brand memory" anymore.
I would be really hesitant to let some service coming with that brand name store my credit card, e-mail and home address.
Again, not really using Win since 2003 but I was quite phobic about Kazaa name. I can still remember that name after all these years.
Napster didn't have any kind of "spyware" story while it was really Napster so it had some kind of brand recognition. In case of Kazaa, it just reminds some "Ilgaz" guy spyware. That is why I remember the name anyway.
With P2P, you don't have to think about the bill coming from Akamai.
So, for example, if pirates offer 720P heavily compressed and transcoded junk, offer 1080p with 7.1 sound directly from masters themselves.
Or they offer FLAC? Offer 24bit 5.1 version with a special key to attend band's concerts 25% cheaper.
I would take a mpeg 2 DVD over pirated avi just because of picture and sound quality, extras, convinience. Most of DVD buyers aren't that technically illirate, they know they can download it freely but they choose DVD for similar reasons.
They will have the name of a notorious spyware and won't use any kind of features coming with P2P. They will put the exact same junk as pirates with the added DRM which will probably be wmedia based (so, there goes macs) and horrible compression and even taking Apple as example, stereo, relying on Pro Logic II.
I really started to wonder what kind of web this noscript lobby is browsing.
Every single damn bug found with every single lamer, they come here and lobby about noscript. I started to look for =referrer in URLs seriously.
If an updated browser (yes, I keep FF) can't work safely without turning off a central web feature, I move to another browser. Simple as that. Or, I use a decent AV solution which will have state of art heuristics enough to figure it out and stay away from random sites until bug fixed.
I use Omniweb now but Firefox has really became some kind of "internet operating system" these days with web services which would not exist if javascript didn't exist.
If one is that paranoid, there is no need for extensions. ANY site can be hacked for example to inject malicious code. Turn Javascript off and enjoy your nerd browsing.
Seriously, we aren't stupid, some of us are old enough to remember first javascript enabled version of netscape. Enough with noscript advertisements.
I would really love to hear your opinion about the other Royal (UK) navy's use of Windows on Destroyers and Nuclear submarines and even (kind of) bragging about it.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/05/windows_for_warships_hits_type_23s/
I mean, if it is not non ethical or anything else stops you.
What is your guess? Do they use Windows clients to a real operating system like UNIX or it is actually pure Windows? What would Dutch army/ask say if you went crazy and proposed using Windows replacing *NIX? They would sure do a triple background check on you right?
A good AV will detect unknown threats and zero day attacks even before you read about them. If combined with a good firewall, they will detect any form of data leakage, at least in unencyripted form which is the most common.
There is amazing level of virtualisation, heuristics on commercial products like Kaspersky to the point of actually having a virtual machine in them and transparently launching suspicious application in that locked down machine before granting it some kind of "gray" level unless it changes.
There is also white list concept. Known products from known companies are scanned lightly and watched for things they shouldn't be doing. So, it is not like "every file scanned". File is scanned in different degrees.
Windows is so popular and known by black hats so "I don't run as admin" or "signed apps only" isn't enough anymore.
So, a person who can do mad things like ring -1 and knows about -2 -3 attacks who also happens to be a professional security researcher doesn't use AV and "doesn't see need for it."
This is the most irresponsible thing I have ever heard. Does average user have knowledge of system internals like she does? Does average user can stand the torture of 3 virtual machines? Could average user get rid of "run as admin" even on upcoming Windows 7, especially if he/she is a gamer?
This is more like a Medical Doctor bragging about how he never used any pills or went to a doctor and "doesn't see need for it".
She should browse some average user troubleshooting forums and see the junk non technical people are being victim of. No, they really don't know the privilege levels or CPU rings.
Make sure you never hang around with AIX or even worse, z/OS people.
The numbers you would hear would kill you because of excessive laughing or amazement. Yes, those numbers are really thousands, not tens.
I understand the DEP (data execution prevention) enabled processors weren't common back in Windows XP days but what is the deal with Windows 7 even 64bit version? Why wouldn't MS enable it by default as it is said to prevent very serious attacks on CPU level, without slowing down the system at all?
While there are no real viruses on OS X yet, I try to prepare machines for "no AV needed even while viruses exist" configuration just like you with couple of extra admin prompts, that is all but I don't follow Windows scene too much.
After enabling DEP, I even gamed on Windows 7 64bit (game is even running under win2k compatibility) and I haven't seen anything bad happen. I remember some stupid HP driver on another machine crashed because of DEP but that was all, the error message was really informative too.
So, do they disable it to make couple of badly written software owners happy while 99% would benefit from it?
BTW, this is what DEP is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention
I actually need DRM content from Sony. Buying books for 20 dollars and giving 30 dollars to DHL for safe shipping to this place is really absurd. I hate piracy too so, I could end up buying a Windows for Virtual Machine and buy books from Sony.
It is amazing that Sony and others miss the fact that iTunes Music store actually took off on OS X/Mac. Mac users were the ones who paid for legitimate content enough to keep iTunes/iPod afloat in first years.
You don't need to make up story. He spoke about "boiling teenagers in oil" , call the police and say you read a guy talking about boiling teenagers in oil "in an hackers forum".
If they come to his house and land a helicopter on his lawn, he will remember this message.
BTW, I am not joking. It may actually happen as I know how police mind works. There is a low rank police friend of mine which I joke as "rescue me from police station" each time I call. Guy knows me for 30 years and every single fscking time, he asks "What did you do again?". Notice the "again" part!
I think everyone misses the point that no law is impossible to change or remove.
So blaming John Major even after Blair elected and did nothing about it doesn't make any sense.
I would be just like Obama, keeping Guantanamo open even with more torture and blaming W. Bush for Guantanamo while he can easily close it down. (which he did or something)
I respect to Ulrich way more than those assholes hiding somewhere and let house wives pay millions for their pirated tracks.
Right or not (IMHO he was trolled big time), at least he went there and openly said what he was thinking.
Man they are such stupid that nobody had the evil idea of amazing cheap PR move. "We, as a band, protest this ridiculous case and we will cover her monetarily whatever it costs.". That exact moment, you are a hero even while you are an evil bastard who just looks for cheap (yes,compare to others) PR.
I just wonder one thing. How many billions of dollars in public relations did RIAA lose with that ridiculous mp3 case and Pirate Bay case?
Calculate this way. How many billions of dollars must music industry spend in advertising, donations, public apologies to fix their image and the artists they claim to represent?
I somehow think it is impossible but I better ask anyway. It must be billions even if it is possible. Way more than couple of millions.
To add to your comment for the real brain dead not understanding what this means:
Amazon can make NY Times (on Kindle) NOT having this story tomorrow. Yes, a NY Times not having this story and you don't have any right to bitch about it.
Books were confiscated, books (and theis authors) burned but nobody could remotely change a book until now.