As you mention MS, something comes to my mind... There is nothing stopping MS from _never_ releasing drivers and such "Linux gets support first" gestures could either be a kick to them or could guarantee USB3 becoming a failure just because MS didn't include drivers.
While Apple is certainly more nice company than MS, Apple is the one who always loves "We had it here first" type of things and all (excluding hopeless fanatics) must thank Apple for helping USB to really take off, with first iMac.
So, they are taking the chance to make SJobs telling how amazingly fast, unbeliavable thing USB 3 is. If I was a company working on USB3 like, multimedia focused technology, I wouldn't make Apple mad too.
Especially while there is certainly incoming FW3200 technology, significantly more modern than USB (thanks to its roots) and it half belongs to Apple. They can say "We are waiving our patent price for implementing it and here are its specs including comically low CPU usage". Firewire 1600/3200 is _really_ 1600 and 3200 mbit, no overhead etc. issues and you can CHAIN them without losing bandwidth. Think about netbooks having to have 3-4 USB inputs in such small space. A single FW1600 can handle all with amazing speed. What stops firewire? Of course, the high price of implementation. Apple can actually erase half or more of the price instantly with a single memo.
There are some great technologies failed just because they weren't supported on Windows natively. Just look how that FAT16/32 dinosaur lives on while there are dozens of better filesystems out there.
To figure how huge thing this is, you should be running Linux in 1990s and tried to use USB early, practical devices such as mouse.
Windows 95 with "hacked in" USB support was working better with USB devices. We ended up struggling for hours and ending up with PS/2 adapter coming with USB mouse under Linux. Need to say more?
I wonder if you are fooled by lack of Desktop popularity of Linux since I see UNIX, by exact meaning along with certificates is approaching 10% desktop share now and basically sets the destination on mobile scene. That is OS X for you. Should Apple do the most interesting thing ever and gather Unix 03 certificate for a mobile device too?
If we look to matter as *NIX, MS is actually struggling to reach top spot spending billions of dollars to overtake Linux and FreeBSD _dominance_ on server scene. Enterprise? UNIX simply owns it. No matter their web 2.0 abuser army says or their sell off trojans in FOSS claims, UNIX runs the enterprise for 40 years and counting.
If you claim some market share and even CNET which is known to be best friend of MS doesn't buy it and even laughs to it, it is time to re-consider your business.
You can't say a WORD about Opera and their right to discuss web standards. They earned that very right over years since the start, since the times people joked about them for not displaying non standard compliant sites good.
Being proprietary doesn't mean anything. I care about passing ACID 3 test, supporting web standards to a point that they would happily lose market share. They also FORCED MS to support standards. Your thousand hacks running non proprietary browser did any of these? What did they do except getting money from Google? Do you think cloning the evil proprietary, future mega patent troll dinosour's plugin in open source, missing their community linux release day because he was wondering around at Redmond, successfully dividing open source community gives Icaza the right to talk? Think again.
...and by not using H264 just because it is patented World wide, multi platform, large company adopted (including MS, that monkey boy knows) standard, they guarantee that we will see the use of video element ONLY in open source fanatic sites and perhaps Wikipedia.
Such things made what Flash has become today and they guarantee its further success as an abused plugin. It is amazing... Silverlight by its anti multi platform attitude (don't tell me about that clone), Quicktime large download bundled with iTunes, Real Networks still not getting rid of God damn bundles and their attitude, Java still not being a ultra light and fast plugin... All serves to Flash... Really amazing!
The video codec/plugin for embedding content standard is dictated by Google who owns Youtube and Youtube look alikes. It is Flash now. Very same company attempts to use a standards based method using an open source application and mini RMS people all over speaking about very deep philosophical matters.
Let me start reporting Flash bugs to Adobe again, it seems people are eager to guarantee that originally vector drawing plugin will be used for video next 5 years.
I really wonder who really cares about what Icaza has to say about patents, large companies, shadowy use of LGPL.
I promise myself never to talk about Icaza and leave it to boycottnovell.org but somehow he really manages to troll me.
We all know Opera ASA is a closed source company, they claim it is their business model and it works so far. I can take their words very serious since they are the ones who managed to stand up against Microsoft instead of selling out to them and still claim they are the same company. Can we tell the same thing about Icaza guy and Novell? Come on really, one should really know when to shut up.
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In other sense, OS X is still built on the same idea of UNIX. If you time warped a UNIX user from 1970s to a OS X running Terminal full screen, it wouldn't take long for him/her to adopt to it.
Even the OS X technologies like launchd (which is free as in every sense) is coded in same sense as Unix was coded.
It really seems some.NIX users are jelous to a point that they can actually ignore a UNIX 03 compliant OS. It is because it went with a completely different attitude and managed to be choice of general end users?
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Please go to sourceforge and read some app sources or better go to Apple darwin site. You like it or not, OS X is UNIX. Each 0.1 percent OS X gets equals to UNIX share.
Apple has spent significant time and money to get Unix 03 cerficate, perhaps it added months to Leopard release date.
If those "lusers" running iTunes and Safari wasting that great power bothering you, fine. The sad truth (!) is, OS X is at same league as very big boys like IBM (AIX), HP and others in terms of UNIX compliancy.
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By definition, long and endless testing, the way it works. OS X is UNIX. In fact, Unix 03 standard (Intel distro).
So the Unix you seem to show as dying to add some emotion to your otherwise good article is approaching 10% of market share and completely changed mobile scene (as iPhone runs mini OS X). It is the only serious competitor to MS in Desktop and in same sense, it is the only OS MS would bother to code apps for.
If writing an article about UNIX and mentioning the open group, having such strict standards, OS X is UNIX 03 compliant operating system. Also POSIX is making its way to Mobile in mini form or real form.
Like it or not or downplay as OS from iPhone maker, OS X is UNIX and even more interestingly, it is also Mach based. It is not a very easy thing to achieve, ask any UNIX admin how huge set of tests and standards it requires to get that certificate.
I remember it bragged about restoring a overwritten system dll thanks to new technology. The problem? It was actually win32.hybris virus it restored:) The most advanced pre-rootkit virus of all times, almost polymorphic.
Even worse, they tried to do what Apple tried to do and failed. Win ME is some sort of Apple's failed "lets modernise MacOS" plan which took years and a top end manager to figure it won't really happen.
It is a really interesting Windows edition if you look deeper. They tried to make Windows 2000 on top of Windows 9x, even tried to "system restore" while that archaic FAT32 filesystem was the only option.
If a general user turns off automatic updates, he will be infected by a security exploit. Basic as that as in 2+2=4 sense. They don't read KB articles in needlessly complex URLs either.
Go and watch how general users use their machines, you will learn a lot. Obviously MS really knows them to exploit their weakness.
On that matter, SJobs was really right. Xerox can come up with the coolest thing ever invented which happens every time and yet can't sell it. I mean we are lucky they stole... err acquired engineering teams:)
Oh Xenix thing predates whole Linux/SCO etc. thing. It was their actual product, they loved selling it and made great money from it. I mean, MS was also a Unix OS vendor even back in 1978+ period. They obviously knew/saw DOS quirks as most of the great Unix functionality was already up and running back at that time.
They have ties to SCO but it is not something in evil way, they sold their license to them or something way before this SCO trolling begun. Back at that time, SCO was a reputable company with a good product I guess.
That is the thing alerting me, black/gray hats learning from their beloved MS as we speak. "Impossible to uninstall" really rings some bells in those guys dirty minds.
Speaking from experience, on high end Samsung plasma. Burn in can happen when the components (display) is cold. It becomes way more forgiving when it goes up to normal operating temperature. BTW, I haven't seen the actual end of the plasma, it is just a "warning" we/normally using see. The real burn in is so evil that it stays even system is off. E.g. that LCD owner replied to you, he speaks about the actual thing.
Another populist slashdotter AC plays the old game and wins.
What really makes Adobe Acrobat reader and Quicktime "suspicious"? Having MPEG1/3/4/PDF embedding functionality along with the TIFF coming with legitimately installed software plugin coming from legitimate companies is suspicious how?
You forgot Realplayer btw, it would give your little AC post +10 informative. Guess what, WE KNOW how to disable or rm plugins. It is the ultimate unethical method of MS we argue about. The nature of company and things they are capable of doing is another matter too. Adobe/Apple won't say "lets crash that stupid little browser", they won't deliberately do it but MS is certainly capable of doing such stuff. How do I know? Look to US Court documents.
I always wondered if they ever thought "If we didn't acquire quick and dirty OS and go with our own". If you look at the quality of their code on Mac and releases in those ages, it is clearly ages ahead of the clone of the clone they acquired.
Remember, they had UNIX license directly from AT&T too and selling it as Xenix. It really looks like they try to code Unix again in a different sense but fail, over and over. Judging from OS X Office releases, they wouldn't be a bad Unix/NeXT coding company either.
In case of dupe, CmdrTaco's evil mind did a neat trick that when you say "omg dupe, stupid editors", you blame whole community including mods:)
How? Story comes from Firehose thingie. So, it was up to Firehose using registered users to "vote down" as dupe or tag as dupe.
While on it, as a person with horrible grammar,spelling, I can suggest them to auto add us like "Firehose editors" to break sentences of stories in a way that even OS X Leopard grammar checking will crash. I actually managed to do it.
If Firefox was an evil company of some sort, they would deliberately add some functionality to make browser break when their extension installed from their back and call a good lawyer company. For a software/app at market share of Firefox, I can guarantee millions of dollars in return although I am not a lawyer.
MS should pray that they don't seem interested in such things and of course, source is open to look/review. E.g. it is not Microsoft.
Funny is, the real thing they stole the feature (Sun Java) does it very happily without having anything installed to "extensions" or "plugins". Java Webstart. Of course, it is ages ahead of the copier too.
Understand why Apple carefully picks the term "Photocopier" when talks about Redmond? They can't/don't make the exact copy, it is always backwards compared to the real thing just like photocopy.
There is something called "file types" on all operating systems down to Symbian on handhelds. You register filetype with helper app and expect browser to pick it from that database. It works on my Symbian S60 128MB RAM having handset:)
So lets speak about what has changed in 1 year? Firefox developers still didn't implement some sort of "If some extension installed behind my back (offline), ask user about it in next launch" functionality. Of course, it is a community/open source project. I would suggest and ask for votes if I was really a Firefox user but I am not.
It is Microsoft and couple of ignorant developers currently installing local extensions, no malware or serious privacy issue yet. It is just inconvinience but things may change. Firefox is a very major player in browser business now and extensions can be very powerful. Users still run as "super user", even if they weren't, there is no precious data besides users home dir and browsing habits anyway. Understand what I am really afraid of?
It is simply "check whatever was there in last quit and what was added when I got first launched" functionality. Nothing fancy, nothing fascistic like app store. Oh if they look at source and haxor the functionality? That is the time you do a nice submission to ClamAV/Kaspersky/Symantec/MCafee and they will care for the rest.
No it is their justification to run Office in a Web browser which I did back in 2001, with Think Free Office. Think Free guys used to rely on Java but it changed as technology progresses, now they use mixture of Java, Ajax and HTML technologies. I think some Flash will be involved too.
Of course, same people laughing at me while using a Office written in Java now talks about what kind of a modern idea Google invented (!) after 8 years.
Of course, native vs. interpreted application? I purchased Apple iWork, funnily named but piece of art Objective C code as I got couple of PPCG4 which I can't waste with some spoiled search engine guys ''inventing'' things.;)
I wasn't talking about it for a while as I am tired of Google fanatics but, what is the point of running a software with Administrator(win)/Super User(Mac) privileges every 2 hours that will... check for updates?
I speak about the Google Updater and I don't really CARE if it is open source or not.
Not just that, you are giving a very bad example to industry to use as reference. They already started talking about ''but Google does it''.
Is that part of the excuse? Because hardware guys beat the badly designed software coded by some re-invent wheel guys? Does something run in your server farms opening a socket to the outside World every 2 hours that will check for updates?
Listen, people purchasing $1400 software are bugged about their paid commercial software checking for updates yet alone it does only check weekly and _if application runs_. We don't have hardware to waste or some top certified security engineers to waste. Stop thinking everyone has some undocumentedly large server farms like you.
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As you mention MS, something comes to my mind... There is nothing stopping MS from _never_ releasing drivers and such "Linux gets support first" gestures could either be a kick to them or could guarantee USB3 becoming a failure just because MS didn't include drivers.
While Apple is certainly more nice company than MS, Apple is the one who always loves "We had it here first" type of things and all (excluding hopeless fanatics) must thank Apple for helping USB to really take off, with first iMac.
So, they are taking the chance to make SJobs telling how amazingly fast, unbeliavable thing USB 3 is. If I was a company working on USB3 like, multimedia focused technology, I wouldn't make Apple mad too.
Especially while there is certainly incoming FW3200 technology, significantly more modern than USB (thanks to its roots) and it half belongs to Apple. They can say "We are waiving our patent price for implementing it and here are its specs including comically low CPU usage". Firewire 1600/3200 is _really_ 1600 and 3200 mbit, no overhead etc. issues and you can CHAIN them without losing bandwidth. Think about netbooks having to have 3-4 USB inputs in such small space. A single FW1600 can handle all with amazing speed. What stops firewire? Of course, the high price of implementation. Apple can actually erase half or more of the price instantly with a single memo.
There are some great technologies failed just because they weren't supported on Windows natively. Just look how that FAT16/32 dinosaur lives on while there are dozens of better filesystems out there.
To figure how huge thing this is, you should be running Linux in 1990s and tried to use USB early, practical devices such as mouse.
Windows 95 with "hacked in" USB support was working better with USB devices. We ended up struggling for hours and ending up with PS/2 adapter coming with USB mouse under Linux. Need to say more?
I wonder if you are fooled by lack of Desktop popularity of Linux since I see UNIX, by exact meaning along with certificates is approaching 10% desktop share now and basically sets the destination on mobile scene. That is OS X for you. Should Apple do the most interesting thing ever and gather Unix 03 certificate for a mobile device too?
If we look to matter as *NIX, MS is actually struggling to reach top spot spending billions of dollars to overtake Linux and FreeBSD _dominance_ on server scene. Enterprise? UNIX simply owns it. No matter their web 2.0 abuser army says or their sell off trojans in FOSS claims, UNIX runs the enterprise for 40 years and counting.
If you claim some market share and even CNET which is known to be best friend of MS doesn't buy it and even laughs to it, it is time to re-consider your business.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10258576-2.html
IMHO you better go call MS, they may have some job for you.
You can't say a WORD about Opera and their right to discuss web standards. They earned that very right over years since the start, since the times people joked about them for not displaying non standard compliant sites good.
Being proprietary doesn't mean anything. I care about passing ACID 3 test, supporting web standards to a point that they would happily lose market share. They also FORCED MS to support standards. Your thousand hacks running non proprietary browser did any of these? What did they do except getting money from Google? Do you think cloning the evil proprietary, future mega patent troll dinosour's plugin in open source, missing their community linux release day because he was wondering around at Redmond, successfully dividing open source community gives Icaza the right to talk? Think again.
...and by not using H264 just because it is patented World wide, multi platform, large company adopted (including MS, that monkey boy knows) standard, they guarantee that we will see the use of video element ONLY in open source fanatic sites and perhaps Wikipedia.
Such things made what Flash has become today and they guarantee its further success as an abused plugin. It is amazing... Silverlight by its anti multi platform attitude (don't tell me about that clone), Quicktime large download bundled with iTunes, Real Networks still not getting rid of God damn bundles and their attitude, Java still not being a ultra light and fast plugin... All serves to Flash... Really amazing!
The video codec/plugin for embedding content standard is dictated by Google who owns Youtube and Youtube look alikes. It is Flash now. Very same company attempts to use a standards based method using an open source application and mini RMS people all over speaking about very deep philosophical matters.
Let me start reporting Flash bugs to Adobe again, it seems people are eager to guarantee that originally vector drawing plugin will be used for video next 5 years.
I really wonder who really cares about what Icaza has to say about patents, large companies, shadowy use of LGPL.
I promise myself never to talk about Icaza and leave it to boycottnovell.org but somehow he really manages to troll me.
We all know Opera ASA is a closed source company, they claim it is their business model and it works so far. I can take their words very serious since they are the ones who managed to stand up against Microsoft instead of selling out to them and still claim they are the same company. Can we tell the same thing about Icaza guy and Novell? Come on really, one should really know when to shut up.
In other sense, OS X is still built on the same idea of UNIX. If you time warped a UNIX user from 1970s to a OS X running Terminal full screen, it wouldn't take long for him/her to adopt to it.
Even the OS X technologies like launchd (which is free as in every sense) is coded in same sense as Unix was coded.
It really seems some .NIX users are jelous to a point that they can actually ignore a UNIX 03 compliant OS. It is because it went with a completely different attitude and managed to be choice of general end users?
Please go to sourceforge and read some app sources or better go to Apple darwin site. You like it or not, OS X is UNIX. Each 0.1 percent OS X gets equals to UNIX share.
Apple has spent significant time and money to get Unix 03 cerficate, perhaps it added months to Leopard release date.
If those "lusers" running iTunes and Safari wasting that great power bothering you, fine. The sad truth (!) is, OS X is at same league as very big boys like IBM (AIX), HP and others in terms of UNIX compliancy.
By definition, long and endless testing, the way it works. OS X is UNIX. In fact, Unix 03 standard (Intel distro).
So the Unix you seem to show as dying to add some emotion to your otherwise good article is approaching 10% of market share and completely changed mobile scene (as iPhone runs mini OS X). It is the only serious competitor to MS in Desktop and in same sense, it is the only OS MS would bother to code apps for.
If writing an article about UNIX and mentioning the open group, having such strict standards, OS X is UNIX 03 compliant operating system. Also POSIX is making its way to Mobile in mini form or real form.
Like it or not or downplay as OS from iPhone maker, OS X is UNIX and even more interestingly, it is also Mach based. It is not a very easy thing to achieve, ask any UNIX admin how huge set of tests and standards it requires to get that certificate.
http://www.opengroup.org/comm/press/19-2-nov07.htm
I remember it bragged about restoring a overwritten system dll thanks to new technology. The problem? It was actually win32.hybris virus it restored :) The most advanced pre-rootkit virus of all times, almost polymorphic.
Even worse, they tried to do what Apple tried to do and failed. Win ME is some sort of Apple's failed "lets modernise MacOS" plan which took years and a top end manager to figure it won't really happen.
It is a really interesting Windows edition if you look deeper. They tried to make Windows 2000 on top of Windows 9x, even tried to "system restore" while that archaic FAT32 filesystem was the only option.
If a general user turns off automatic updates, he will be infected by a security exploit. Basic as that as in 2+2=4 sense. They don't read KB articles in needlessly complex URLs either.
Go and watch how general users use their machines, you will learn a lot. Obviously MS really knows them to exploit their weakness.
On that matter, SJobs was really right. Xerox can come up with the coolest thing ever invented which happens every time and yet can't sell it. I mean we are lucky they stole... err acquired engineering teams :)
Oh Xenix thing predates whole Linux/SCO etc. thing. It was their actual product, they loved selling it and made great money from it. I mean, MS was also a Unix OS vendor even back in 1978+ period. They obviously knew/saw DOS quirks as most of the great Unix functionality was already up and running back at that time.
They have ties to SCO but it is not something in evil way, they sold their license to them or something way before this SCO trolling begun. Back at that time, SCO was a reputable company with a good product I guess.
That is the thing alerting me, black/gray hats learning from their beloved MS as we speak. "Impossible to uninstall" really rings some bells in those guys dirty minds.
Speaking from experience, on high end Samsung plasma. Burn in can happen when the components (display) is cold. It becomes way more forgiving when it goes up to normal operating temperature. BTW, I haven't seen the actual end of the plasma, it is just a "warning" we/normally using see. The real burn in is so evil that it stays even system is off. E.g. that LCD owner replied to you, he speaks about the actual thing.
Another populist slashdotter AC plays the old game and wins.
What really makes Adobe Acrobat reader and Quicktime "suspicious"? Having MPEG1/3/4/PDF embedding functionality along with the TIFF coming with legitimately installed software plugin coming from legitimate companies is suspicious how?
You forgot Realplayer btw, it would give your little AC post +10 informative. Guess what, WE KNOW how to disable or rm plugins. It is the ultimate unethical method of MS we argue about. The nature of company and things they are capable of doing is another matter too. Adobe/Apple won't say "lets crash that stupid little browser", they won't deliberately do it but MS is certainly capable of doing such stuff. How do I know? Look to US Court documents.
I always wondered if they ever thought "If we didn't acquire quick and dirty OS and go with our own". If you look at the quality of their code on Mac and releases in those ages, it is clearly ages ahead of the clone of the clone they acquired.
Remember, they had UNIX license directly from AT&T too and selling it as Xenix. It really looks like they try to code Unix again in a different sense but fail, over and over. Judging from OS X Office releases, they wouldn't be a bad Unix/NeXT coding company either.
In case of dupe, CmdrTaco's evil mind did a neat trick that when you say "omg dupe, stupid editors", you blame whole community including mods :)
How? Story comes from Firehose thingie. So, it was up to Firehose using registered users to "vote down" as dupe or tag as dupe.
While on it, as a person with horrible grammar,spelling, I can suggest them to auto add us like "Firehose editors" to break sentences of stories in a way that even OS X Leopard grammar checking will crash. I actually managed to do it.
If Firefox was an evil company of some sort, they would deliberately add some functionality to make browser break when their extension installed from their back and call a good lawyer company. For a software/app at market share of Firefox, I can guarantee millions of dollars in return although I am not a lawyer.
MS should pray that they don't seem interested in such things and of course, source is open to look/review. E.g. it is not Microsoft.
If it sounded too childish or tin foil, just check that story http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/11/05/how_ms_played_the_incompatibility/ . It is not a IT urban legend, it is actually documented in court.
Funny is, the real thing they stole the feature (Sun Java) does it very happily without having anything installed to "extensions" or "plugins". Java Webstart. Of course, it is ages ahead of the copier too.
Understand why Apple carefully picks the term "Photocopier" when talks about Redmond? They can't/don't make the exact copy, it is always backwards compared to the real thing just like photocopy.
There is something called "file types" on all operating systems down to Symbian on handhelds. You register filetype with helper app and expect browser to pick it from that database. It works on my Symbian S60 128MB RAM having handset :)
So lets speak about what has changed in 1 year? Firefox developers still didn't implement some sort of "If some extension installed behind my back (offline), ask user about it in next launch" functionality. Of course, it is a community/open source project. I would suggest and ask for votes if I was really a Firefox user but I am not.
It is Microsoft and couple of ignorant developers currently installing local extensions, no malware or serious privacy issue yet. It is just inconvinience but things may change. Firefox is a very major player in browser business now and extensions can be very powerful. Users still run as "super user", even if they weren't, there is no precious data besides users home dir and browsing habits anyway. Understand what I am really afraid of?
It is simply "check whatever was there in last quit and what was added when I got first launched" functionality. Nothing fancy, nothing fascistic like app store. Oh if they look at source and haxor the functionality? That is the time you do a nice submission to ClamAV/Kaspersky/Symantec/MCafee and they will care for the rest.
No it is their justification to run Office in a Web browser which I did back in 2001, with Think Free Office. Think Free guys used to rely on Java but it changed as technology progresses, now they use mixture of Java, Ajax and HTML technologies. I think some Flash will be involved too.
Of course, same people laughing at me while using a Office written in Java now talks about what kind of a modern idea Google invented (!) after 8 years.
Of course, native vs. interpreted application? I purchased Apple iWork, funnily named but piece of art Objective C code as I got couple of PPCG4 which I can't waste with some spoiled search engine guys ''inventing'' things. ;)
I wasn't talking about it for a while as I am tired of Google fanatics but, what is the point of running a software with Administrator(win)/Super User(Mac) privileges every 2 hours that will... check for updates?
I speak about the Google Updater and I don't really CARE if it is open source or not.
Not just that, you are giving a very bad example to industry to use as reference. They already started talking about ''but Google does it''.
Is that part of the excuse? Because hardware guys beat the badly designed software coded by some re-invent wheel guys? Does something run in your server farms opening a socket to the outside World every 2 hours that will check for updates?
Listen, people purchasing $1400 software are bugged about their paid commercial software checking for updates yet alone it does only check weekly and _if application runs_. We don't have hardware to waste or some top certified security engineers to waste. Stop thinking everyone has some undocumentedly large server farms like you.