Well, I saw it happen 3 times and I remember choosing Yahoo over and over on that page. I ended up with "Internet Explorer for Yahoo!" and gave up when I figured Live search came back like a zombie.
It could be another convenient windows bug effecting minor number of users, you know...;)
Real in decline? They hit the nail on target by their multiplatform, platform neutral philosophy. Near all Symbian devices have Real Player, their Mobile game business is so huge that they decided it to separate it, mobile media deals are huge too.
Except Microsoft, all decided not to re-invent wheel. Everyone does things based on a real standard like MPEG4/AAC now, there is no Codec war anymore. All except that spoiled, rich Microsoft who never paid for their mistakes have decided the existing ISO standards are all fine and they can do things sticking to them as basis of things.
Sites not having Real Player as choice or even having other choice by default are ones who got tricked by Microsoft Media Division. You sound like great to have anti-everything-windows, non standard choice like wmedia instead of a multi platform, platform neutral thing is nice. I seriously miss the days where people had 3-4 choices choosing whatever works best.
Worse, if your entire work is based on Quicktime, you put Quicktime/H264 embedded to page and know that people paid $30 to Apple can easily save it as source, transcode it horribly (in general) and put to Youtube. You hate that junk presented by irrelevant text ads, contact them and they put a convenient "don't blame us, evil copyright owner forced us" toned thing to that page making your potential customers hate you.
Some spends time to "Do Not Allow Save" flag of Quicktime file but never seen that "Save As Source" grayed out so I don't bother anymore.
The issue is, Real Player is in millions of end user machines while alsadump etc. are in hands of advanced people who can also easily save the file from their cache.
Another issue is, Flash is not designed for streaming media and it can't do even 1990's tricks like bandwidth switching back and forth. Result? People figure they can't watch the video conveniently and decide to use "Save As" instead of watching it embedded along with the "Text ads" right next to it. That kills them.
I am even afraid that BBC may switch to Flash from real plugins like Real Player or even Wmedia.
They actually deliver their promise, even in broadband thanks to these plugins actually being designed to stream media. Real switches to UDP, switches bandwidth when in need and perform great on low bandwidth. I couldn't watch a single "flash player" BBC thing in its full.
Also if there wasn't a competitor, example like Real in hand, BBC iPlayer would be wmedia only along with wmedia drm. MS lost it when people showed how many platforms Real supports even including Symbian and Solaris.
Some AC from Real Networks said "There has been a geek/nerd coup here" on Slashdot. The suits decided those "add ins" (everyone at that time did it) are all gone I heard.
They should figure it a lot earlier. They should see the feedback of their MacOS/ OS X version and compare it to Windows one. It is very common for OS X machines to have Realplayer since they always shipped a media player rather than circus they ship with Windows version.
Well, OS X version always stayed as a focused media player which also saves users of previous versions of Quicktime Player to pay $30 for "fullscreen".
Most of things Real Networks and others have done happened because of Microsoft. Why? When they figured Microsoft can easily steal their media extensions , they were forced to put a startup item. When others saw it, people ended up having "winamp agent", "quicktime task", "real taskbar" on their windows taskbar. I can't blame anyone for putting a small agent which maintains extensions on Windows because the Windows vendor doesn't play nice. I had to install "Yahoo Companion" just to make sure IE 7 stays with Yahoo search engine, to prevent it from changing "accidentally" to MSN Livesearch.
When MS decided to put Windows Media 7 preinstalled (remember how good was 6.4?), the companies were forced to code a "all in one" application which will have library, CD burning and to cover the costs, advertisement of paid content. They also figured the Microsoft one does GUID without asking user so they decided to enable it for their best server customers who offers paid content (guess who?). It was a horrible mistake. The people didn't bother to check the competition directly attacked them and become hero in end user eye.
Now they produce complete open source software for all platforms (except codecs) and still, they get hit instead of the ultimate privacy invaders like Google.
I would say "Karma" but it is beyond it. Something strange happening. For example, it is almost impossible for one to be on slashdot and never heard the Helix project (not you) and whine around saying Spyware spyware.
If these people actually used a real (quicktime, real, wmedia) streaming plugin, it wouldn't be in cache obviously. Things would get a bit complex to rip it (not impossible).
As they choose to use 1994's "Embed huge file inside page" trick, their horrible bandwidth waste finally gets a punishment.
Google can make millions of dollars over Youtube by putting Text Ads to ripped content but when time comes that people actually saves the FLV file they already downloaded, it is a problem. Do you know the solution to prevent regular end user from ripping your (read, YOURS) content? DRM it. It will at least create some hassle and legal responsibility. Not like DRM ever actually worked.
Also targeting Real Networks will really work on Slashdot considering there are thousands of people who types almost memorised things like "Spyware!" when they hear Real Networks, a company who offers entire source in GPL on https://www.helixcommunity.org/
Nice, targeted article which you can only expect from a media professional having a pinpoint target. It wouldn't be wise to target Apple Inc. who offers "Save as source" in their Quicktime Plugin for ages when user pays $30 to their software making it "Pro".
Speaking about Quad Cores, as a Quad G5 owner I think Intel being the largest CPU vendor/Desktop CPU company should spare time to figure out what kind of Applications including core GNU software can be multi threaded to a point where the cores actually get used. They look funny when they try Graphics stuff competing with NVidia and ATI which are way beyond anything they could produce.
It is 2008 and I begin to see multi core aware Flash (check V10 Beta) on my 3 years old OS X system, browsers still use single core, bzip2 needs pbzip to use cores etc.
When I heard this Ray Tracing on CPU while GPU would do it in a fraction of time story, I jokingly said "Intel finally admits they can't do Graphics thing."
Next, IBM will show Crysis doing 120 FPS on their Bluegene/L massive supercomputer.
How come nobody sued Intel and other USB monkeys for openly lying to consumer about bandwidth? It is costing consumers, people get tricked by "480Mbps!" on el cheapo USB drives and question why the heck is 400Mbps one is more expensive. Next time you see guy struggling to send a 500 MB file to USB2 drive at 15 MB/sec.
Isn't it bigger deal than 160 GB=160.000.000 bytes trick?
Intel wouldn't support Firewire, I bet they got into panic when they saw a Motorola G3 Mac beating their highest end internal IDE device. You don't need a multi Ghz multi core Intel CPU to get Firewire speed. My Mac mini G4 1,42 Ghz upstairs has same IO benchmark as my Quad 2500 G5 with 4,5 GB of RAM. If I was a CPU manufacturer, I would hate it.
Firewire is like SCSI compared to USB which is more like pre DMA IDE.
You get what you pay for. I have seen 120 MB/sec on ordinary Firewire 800 hard disk during normal file operation. It even saved Mac Mini which now boots faster than my Quad G5 with SATA drives.
Would you call me paranoid if I think USB 3.0 will cost more CPU time ignoring the competition from Firewire?
USB protocol is broken, IMHO on purpose. The guy designed it is a genius, I know how excellent Atari 800 external connections worked and how easy they were. Of course in 8 bit, 1 Mhz ages, there was actual CPU competition so nobody would dare to rely on CPU.
It is only the "Board". You will notice even Microsoft is in board. There are some die hard rivals in that organisation which maintains sort of corporate democracy.
AMD/Nvidia and others (who are afraid to come up) doesn't need a "new" standard, they just need to put that Firewire 800/1600/3200 chip and connector to their mid range offerings (not only expensive ones!) and they should end this stupid i-link, firewire, ieee 1394 chaos. It is Firewire, that is a good name, talk with Apple already.
"FireWire requires an actual IO controller, where USB 2 relies on the CPU and the driver."
How convenient is it considering USB 1/2/3 designed/supported by a team lead by Intel, a CPU manufacturer? Now they try to demo GPU not needed via doing ray tracing. Next, they will try to hit the awakening PDA/Cell GPU market which started to do OpenGL ES.
Intel hates Firewire (IEEE 1394) so much that it isn't even in the organisation. I can understand their reasons as many people started to understand since newer high end external drives come with dual (USB/Firewire) connectivity. People having chance to plug them with Firewire doesn't look back to USB ever again.
If there is one reason I hate IBM these days is, they never took Apple serious to deliver a God damn mobile G5/G6 CPU leaving entire market to these X86 monopolists.
It isn't only about games. OS X actually uses OpenGL to the limit for everything it does on Desktop and core technologies. If your Laptop has a horrible integrated graphics junk, it will use RAM, CPU power and make your OS X experience slower.
It is so stupid that one wonders if Verizon has to go nice with Government of USA these days. I don't know the American system but generally, if a company does stupid things that will only make Govt. happy, they are going for a deal or something.
Well, Google groups and the Germany/.edu based http://www.individual.net/ to the rescue. Both doesn't carry bin groups. That is what they should do if they were concerned.
I ask about serious, commercial applications everyone wants to run on their Windows and OS X, you come up with couple of demo like junk which isn't anywhere competitive and calling me ignorant. My definition of "end user application" is 1M+ downloaded Applications by general public, not some nerds.
"With the integration of Versora's technology into the Kaseya management framework, managing a user's day to day state and assisting in seamless data migration to new desktop operating systems such as Microsoft Vista and Mac OS X will be a great pairing of two superior technologies."
So? Where is Multiplatform enabling Mono technology in this case?
Also many people these days tries to avoid Gnome like plague since it is been abused by its creator and gang to drive people to their lame wannabe cloning technologies. You know, not everyone has been hired by "almost gone chapter 11" company to maintain their shadowy relations with Microsoft.
"Most of these SDKs primarily target DotNet because that's the primary development platform that Microsoft wants people to write Windows apps in"
Isn't it time for Microsoft to admit there are lots of other development environments? If they bitch about fragmented Linux, there is Apple there, has standard "XCode" which everyone is free to plugin.
They are like making it on purpose. It shouldn't be hard to put a tar.gz or even ZIP file containing stuff.h files inside along with usual C sources. Is there a gang out of control in MS? I mean they know they would get this feedback when they make jokes like that. Looks like someone doesn't care. I can almost bet the help files are in CHM too.
Don't you think Sun and IBM won't use it against Microsoft? They will show how neutral their things are, even running on OS X and they will show line managing to put 4 registered trademark symbols in a sentence.
I mean commercial, end user applications. For example, search "requires.NET" applications and look if they can ship to Linux thanks to Mono.
I can give lots of applications who are hugely popular which ships same exact versions to multiple platforms thanks to Java. A recent commercial/popular success example is "Vuze" (Azureus). From Linux land, thanks to Trolltech Qt, a true multiplatform framework, Amarok 2 will release on X11/OS X and Windows using the same code.
I would install anything but FAT32 to those flash drives since it is an archaic filesystem, in fact a thing designed for floppy disks at first place.
I would go for a journaled filesystem, even NTFS would be a good choice rather than FAT. The disaster usually happens because everything comes with FAT32. Ask Mac users about disasters (rather than bad blocks) they had with HFS+ Journaling drives. They would say almost "none".
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It has 256 MB of RAM compared to our 64MB. Evil them.
Well, I saw it happen 3 times and I remember choosing Yahoo over and over on that page. I ended up with "Internet Explorer for Yahoo!" and gave up when I figured Live search came back like a zombie.
;)
It could be another convenient windows bug effecting minor number of users, you know...
Real in decline? They hit the nail on target by their multiplatform, platform neutral philosophy. Near all Symbian devices have Real Player, their Mobile game business is so huge that they decided it to separate it, mobile media deals are huge too.
Except Microsoft, all decided not to re-invent wheel. Everyone does things based on a real standard like MPEG4/AAC now, there is no Codec war anymore. All except that spoiled, rich Microsoft who never paid for their mistakes have decided the existing ISO standards are all fine and they can do things sticking to them as basis of things.
Sites not having Real Player as choice or even having other choice by default are ones who got tricked by Microsoft Media Division. You sound like great to have anti-everything-windows, non standard choice like wmedia instead of a multi platform, platform neutral thing is nice. I seriously miss the days where people had 3-4 choices choosing whatever works best.
Worse, if your entire work is based on Quicktime, you put Quicktime/H264 embedded to page and know that people paid $30 to Apple can easily save it as source, transcode it horribly (in general) and put to Youtube. You hate that junk presented by irrelevant text ads, contact them and they put a convenient "don't blame us, evil copyright owner forced us" toned thing to that page making your potential customers hate you.
Some spends time to "Do Not Allow Save" flag of Quicktime file but never seen that "Save As Source" grayed out so I don't bother anymore.
The issue is, Real Player is in millions of end user machines while alsadump etc. are in hands of advanced people who can also easily save the file from their cache.
Another issue is, Flash is not designed for streaming media and it can't do even 1990's tricks like bandwidth switching back and forth. Result? People figure they can't watch the video conveniently and decide to use "Save As" instead of watching it embedded along with the "Text ads" right next to it. That kills them.
I am even afraid that BBC may switch to Flash from real plugins like Real Player or even Wmedia.
They actually deliver their promise, even in broadband thanks to these plugins actually being designed to stream media. Real switches to UDP, switches bandwidth when in need and perform great on low bandwidth. I couldn't watch a single "flash player" BBC thing in its full.
Also if there wasn't a competitor, example like Real in hand, BBC iPlayer would be wmedia only along with wmedia drm. MS lost it when people showed how many platforms Real supports even including Symbian and Solaris.
Some AC from Real Networks said "There has been a geek/nerd coup here" on Slashdot. The suits decided those "add ins" (everyone at that time did it) are all gone I heard.
They should figure it a lot earlier. They should see the feedback of their MacOS/ OS X version and compare it to Windows one. It is very common for OS X machines to have Realplayer since they always shipped a media player rather than circus they ship with Windows version.
It is almost same as OS X version minus the Quicktime framework capabilities of it. The source is open minus the codecs.
Well, OS X version always stayed as a focused media player which also saves users of previous versions of Quicktime Player to pay $30 for "fullscreen".
Most of things Real Networks and others have done happened because of Microsoft. Why? When they figured Microsoft can easily steal their media extensions , they were forced to put a startup item. When others saw it, people ended up having "winamp agent", "quicktime task", "real taskbar" on their windows taskbar. I can't blame anyone for putting a small agent which maintains extensions on Windows because the Windows vendor doesn't play nice. I had to install "Yahoo Companion" just to make sure IE 7 stays with Yahoo search engine, to prevent it from changing "accidentally" to MSN Livesearch.
When MS decided to put Windows Media 7 preinstalled (remember how good was 6.4?), the companies were forced to code a "all in one" application which will have library, CD burning and to cover the costs, advertisement of paid content. They also figured the Microsoft one does GUID without asking user so they decided to enable it for their best server customers who offers paid content (guess who?). It was a horrible mistake. The people didn't bother to check the competition directly attacked them and become hero in end user eye.
Now they produce complete open source software for all platforms (except codecs) and still, they get hit instead of the ultimate privacy invaders like Google.
I would say "Karma" but it is beyond it. Something strange happening. For example, it is almost impossible for one to be on slashdot and never heard the Helix project (not you) and whine around saying Spyware spyware.
If these people actually used a real (quicktime, real, wmedia) streaming plugin, it wouldn't be in cache obviously. Things would get a bit complex to rip it (not impossible).
As they choose to use 1994's "Embed huge file inside page" trick, their horrible bandwidth waste finally gets a punishment.
Google can make millions of dollars over Youtube by putting Text Ads to ripped content but when time comes that people actually saves the FLV file they already downloaded, it is a problem. Do you know the solution to prevent regular end user from ripping your (read, YOURS) content? DRM it. It will at least create some hassle and legal responsibility. Not like DRM ever actually worked.
Also targeting Real Networks will really work on Slashdot considering there are thousands of people who types almost memorised things like "Spyware!" when they hear Real Networks, a company who offers entire source in GPL on https://www.helixcommunity.org/
Nice, targeted article which you can only expect from a media professional having a pinpoint target. It wouldn't be wise to target Apple Inc. who offers "Save as source" in their Quicktime Plugin for ages when user pays $30 to their software making it "Pro".
Speaking about Quad Cores, as a Quad G5 owner I think Intel being the largest CPU vendor/Desktop CPU company should spare time to figure out what kind of Applications including core GNU software can be multi threaded to a point where the cores actually get used. They look funny when they try Graphics stuff competing with NVidia and ATI which are way beyond anything they could produce.
It is 2008 and I begin to see multi core aware Flash (check V10 Beta) on my 3 years old OS X system, browsers still use single core, bzip2 needs pbzip to use cores etc.
When I heard this Ray Tracing on CPU while GPU would do it in a fraction of time story, I jokingly said "Intel finally admits they can't do Graphics thing."
Next, IBM will show Crysis doing 120 FPS on their Bluegene/L massive supercomputer.
How come nobody sued Intel and other USB monkeys for openly lying to consumer about bandwidth? It is costing consumers, people get tricked by "480Mbps!" on el cheapo USB drives and question why the heck is 400Mbps one is more expensive. Next time you see guy struggling to send a 500 MB file to USB2 drive at 15 MB/sec.
Isn't it bigger deal than 160 GB=160.000.000 bytes trick?
Intel wouldn't support Firewire, I bet they got into panic when they saw a Motorola G3 Mac beating their highest end internal IDE device. You don't need a multi Ghz multi core Intel CPU to get Firewire speed. My Mac mini G4 1,42 Ghz upstairs has same IO benchmark as my Quad 2500 G5 with 4,5 GB of RAM. If I was a CPU manufacturer, I would hate it.
Firewire is like SCSI compared to USB which is more like pre DMA IDE.
You get what you pay for. I have seen 120 MB/sec on ordinary Firewire 800 hard disk during normal file operation. It even saved Mac Mini which now boots faster than my Quad G5 with SATA drives.
Would you call me paranoid if I think USB 3.0 will cost more CPU time ignoring the competition from Firewire?
USB protocol is broken, IMHO on purpose. The guy designed it is a genius, I know how excellent Atari 800 external connections worked and how easy they were. Of course in 8 bit, 1 Mhz ages, there was actual CPU competition so nobody would dare to rely on CPU.
Your original reason should have been the great, huge, vendor neutral (look at competitors in same org.) IEEE 1394 board.
http://www.1394ta.org/Contact/Board/index.htm
It is only the "Board". You will notice even Microsoft is in board. There are some die hard rivals in that organisation which maintains sort of corporate democracy.
AMD/Nvidia and others (who are afraid to come up) doesn't need a "new" standard, they just need to put that Firewire 800/1600/3200 chip and connector to their mid range offerings (not only expensive ones!) and they should end this stupid i-link, firewire, ieee 1394 chaos. It is Firewire, that is a good name, talk with Apple already.
"FireWire requires an actual IO controller, where USB 2 relies on the CPU and the driver."
How convenient is it considering USB 1/2/3 designed/supported by a team lead by Intel, a CPU manufacturer? Now they try to demo GPU not needed via doing ray tracing. Next, they will try to hit the awakening PDA/Cell GPU market which started to do OpenGL ES.
Intel hates Firewire (IEEE 1394) so much that it isn't even in the organisation. I can understand their reasons as many people started to understand since newer high end external drives come with dual (USB/Firewire) connectivity. People having chance to plug them with Firewire doesn't look back to USB ever again.
If there is one reason I hate IBM these days is, they never took Apple serious to deliver a God damn mobile G5/G6 CPU leaving entire market to these X86 monopolists.
It isn't only about games. OS X actually uses OpenGL to the limit for everything it does on Desktop and core technologies. If your Laptop has a horrible integrated graphics junk, it will use RAM, CPU power and make your OS X experience slower.
It is so stupid that one wonders if Verizon has to go nice with Government of USA these days. I don't know the American system but generally, if a company does stupid things that will only make Govt. happy, they are going for a deal or something.
Well, Google groups and the Germany/.edu based http://www.individual.net/ to the rescue. Both doesn't carry bin groups. That is what they should do if they were concerned.
I hope people didn't forget the Usenet that much as Verizon hopes.
If you are concerned about pornography or even piracy of any kind, you don't carry alt.bin tree , problem is solved.
alt.* tree besides bin is really about freedom of speech in its pure form.
I ask about serious, commercial applications everyone wants to run on their Windows and OS X, you come up with couple of demo like junk which isn't anywhere competitive and calling me ignorant. My definition of "end user application" is 1M+ downloaded Applications by general public, not some nerds.
"With the integration of Versora's technology into the Kaseya management framework, managing a user's day to day state and assisting in seamless data migration to new desktop operating systems such as Microsoft Vista and Mac OS X will be a great pairing of two superior technologies."
So? Where is Multiplatform enabling Mono technology in this case?
Also many people these days tries to avoid Gnome like plague since it is been abused by its creator and gang to drive people to their lame wannabe cloning technologies. You know, not everyone has been hired by "almost gone chapter 11" company to maintain their shadowy relations with Microsoft.
"Most of these SDKs primarily target DotNet because that's the primary development platform that Microsoft wants people to write Windows apps in"
Isn't it time for Microsoft to admit there are lots of other development environments? If they bitch about fragmented Linux, there is Apple there, has standard "XCode" which everyone is free to plugin.
They are like making it on purpose. It shouldn't be hard to put a tar.gz or even ZIP file containing stuff.h files inside along with usual C sources. Is there a gang out of control in MS? I mean they know they would get this feedback when they make jokes like that. Looks like someone doesn't care. I can almost bet the help files are in CHM too.
Don't you think Sun and IBM won't use it against Microsoft? They will show how neutral their things are, even running on OS X and they will show line managing to put 4 registered trademark symbols in a sentence.
Here is how normal companies ship SDK for their Frameworks: http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_QuickTime/index.html
I mean commercial, end user applications. For example, search "requires .NET" applications and look if they can ship to Linux thanks to Mono.
I can give lots of applications who are hugely popular which ships same exact versions to multiple platforms thanks to Java. A recent commercial/popular success example is "Vuze" (Azureus). From Linux land, thanks to Trolltech Qt, a true multiplatform framework, Amarok 2 will release on X11/OS X and Windows using the same code.
I would install anything but FAT32 to those flash drives since it is an archaic filesystem, in fact a thing designed for floppy disks at first place.
I would go for a journaled filesystem, even NTFS would be a good choice rather than FAT. The disaster usually happens because everything comes with FAT32. Ask Mac users about disasters (rather than bad blocks) they had with HFS+ Journaling drives. They would say almost "none".