no, not totally ass-pulled. kepler now lets us know that planets are common, and there is not even the pattern of rocky-inner gassy-outer like we have in the solar system, they can be mixed up. planets can be in habitable zone, but they are often the wrong size/type. there are now some hard real numbers to make estimates. We long have had have rough idea of sun like star percentage (5%), we have rough idea of earth-like planets in habitable zone percent of those (about 2%). Soon (a couple decades or I hope less) we'll even know percentage of those that have similar atmosphere to earth, either pre or post oxygen breathing creature modified. Things are heating up in the search for life elsewhere, all science geeks should be getting some serious wood from Kepler!
the truth is much more boring. instead cultures invent an internet, and become self-absorbed watching entertainment and marketing and posting/friending/liking on Sensory-Pod-Book.com, and lose all interest in science and education. civilisation collapses or stagnates
Since we've recently become primates who can do long distance communication (essentially now) till the time our Sun expands enough to make Earth unliveable for us (about 300 million years), that's 0.3 / 13.75 = 2% of the universe's existence. Let's estimate the odds of any present or past ET with long range comm to overlap our long range comm existence as 2% squared then, or 0.0004
The question then, is how many ET within say 5,000 light years (600 million stars). 5% (30 million) are sun-like, 2% of those (600,000) have earth-like planet in habitable zone, some 1% (6,000) of those have life (I made that up), some 10% of those (600) intelligent life (yup, right out of my ass).....and then your 0.0004 window of that, odds are one in five of ET within 5,000 light years that either we see their laser or they see ours and we start long term communication project.
funding runs out November 2012. The cost is $20 million per additional year, and NASA would like four more years to have 7.5 year mission, that will allow them to get more transits from earth sized worlds that are hiding in noise currently (stars are more variable on average than was thought, a discovery in itself)
http://www.space.com/13857-nasa-kepler-mission-extension-alien-planets.html
we could be awash in ETI signals and not know it yet. there is no reason to even think we have a Fermi Paradox, we're too new at long distance communication.
I am a developer, and any necessary data entry / validation / upload / download task can be done on any browser made in the last ten years.
It's assholes like you that make bloated crapware, because you think you need to use every gee-whiz feature that comes with a software library and IDE.
especially since oxygen is a component of the most powerful greenhouse gas on earth, water. And we can't model long term water content, too variable and complicated. We don't really know the contribution of carbon dioxide to the total greenhouse effect (amazing fact), estimated to be 9 to 32%. but the "climatogists" of course wail about the easier one to model.
no chemistry in you background, I take it. there are plenty of other gases that support combustion, fluorine is one. You could burn fluorine on your hydrocarbon atmosphere planet, or hydrocarbons on a fluorine atmosphere planet. You might be interested to know a rocket with highest specific impulse burns lithium and fluorine. You can make fire with many, many things and not have a molecule of oxygen in sight.
mozilla is making money off the users using their browser. if Mozilla wants to continue to have users, they better fucking well start to listen to them....
there are no problems when a company seriously tests and certifies all the softwares it uses to work together, to specify exact versions. A two year or longer cycle is more appropriate for a browser in mission critical / financial business environment. Such users don't need new features or eye candy to do their job.
they already can imprison you indefinitely or assassinate you or sexually molest you or your children "for cause", anything else being discussed is just icing on the cake for our police state
no, tell the teens to get a fucking job and pay for their internet and cell use. this will help them later in life. I started working at age ten with lawn cutting, show shoveling, car washing, etc. to fund my electronics hobby. Even the "allowance" my parents gave me was for check list of weekly jobs.
you are so funny. the fundamental purpose of the internet is to make money for its providers. Comcat, AT&T, Verizon, they don't make communications solutions or connectivity solutions, they make money. period. end of story.
Get a clue, pal. It takes at least 50% (and usually more like 100% on industrial scale) more energy to split water than you get back by burning the product gases. There are thus n no "water powered cars", just scams. And chumps and suckers who believe them, such as you.
There is "free energy" in the world, it comes from the Sun. The biosphere has been running off of it for billions of years. But until we perfect our biological engineering skills, we'll be needing more concentrated energy sources that cost money to build and to feed.
It isn't about the U.S., it's about mega-corporations and the western banking cartel. they already dominate the world, and have governments including the US in their pocket. You'll notice as we went from "conservative" to "more liberal" government in the USA that really the mega-corporate agenda is still being followed. The Left/Right Conservative/Liberal Democrat/Republican dichotomy is just a distraction for the masses.
no, more and more people are having a better life, life expectancy is getting longer. also, there is no shortage of resources in the world, and that which is "consumed" is still here, it does not fly off into space. get real.
most internet traffic is unnecessary fluff anyway, the penis and nigerian riches spam can all be put into that 99.99999%. I only detect the 0.00001 that's the Good Stuff: wank worthy porn, ebay for my tech gear, and slashdot.
I'll tell you exactly why we technical put down the majority of sales and marketing people. They are for the most part completely fungible and interchangeable people with no special skills or abilities other than schmoozing clients. However, there are a few who are really gifted that can create markets or drive sales. I do respect those people, without them the company withers and dies.
Might this instead just produce CO2 depletion zones, dangerous to plant life (and all that depends on plant life)?
In any case, I would not trust any agenda-funded model of the "climatologists", the generate thousands of models and then cherry pick certain ones to fit what the weather is doing (not science, they are book cookers).
from my upbringing I can tell you that, if someone the biblical fundamentalist creationist likes has illness, it's "oh, God is testing his beloved servant!". If it's someone they don't like, it's "God has smitten that vile sinner!". Always, for themselves it's "God is testing me, to refine me like gold!'.
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no, not totally ass-pulled. kepler now lets us know that planets are common, and there is not even the pattern of rocky-inner gassy-outer like we have in the solar system, they can be mixed up. planets can be in habitable zone, but they are often the wrong size/type. there are now some hard real numbers to make estimates. We long have had have rough idea of sun like star percentage (5%), we have rough idea of earth-like planets in habitable zone percent of those (about 2%). Soon (a couple decades or I hope less) we'll even know percentage of those that have similar atmosphere to earth, either pre or post oxygen breathing creature modified. Things are heating up in the search for life elsewhere, all science geeks should be getting some serious wood from Kepler!
the truth is much more boring. instead cultures invent an internet, and become self-absorbed watching entertainment and marketing and posting/friending/liking on Sensory-Pod-Book.com, and lose all interest in science and education. civilisation collapses or stagnates
Since we've recently become primates who can do long distance communication (essentially now) till the time our Sun expands enough to make Earth unliveable for us (about 300 million years), that's 0.3 / 13.75 = 2% of the universe's existence. Let's estimate the odds of any present or past ET with long range comm to overlap our long range comm existence as 2% squared then, or 0.0004
The question then, is how many ET within say 5,000 light years (600 million stars). 5% (30 million) are sun-like, 2% of those (600,000) have earth-like planet in habitable zone, some 1% (6,000) of those have life (I made that up), some 10% of those (600) intelligent life (yup, right out of my ass).....and then your 0.0004 window of that, odds are one in five of ET within 5,000 light years that either we see their laser or they see ours and we start long term communication project.
thousands of slashdot readers are glad to know they are alive, though they will never attempt reproduction.
funding runs out November 2012. The cost is $20 million per additional year, and NASA would like four more years to have 7.5 year mission, that will allow them to get more transits from earth sized worlds that are hiding in noise currently (stars are more variable on average than was thought, a discovery in itself) http://www.space.com/13857-nasa-kepler-mission-extension-alien-planets.html
we could be awash in ETI signals and not know it yet. there is no reason to even think we have a Fermi Paradox, we're too new at long distance communication.
I am a developer, and any necessary data entry / validation / upload / download task can be done on any browser made in the last ten years.
It's assholes like you that make bloated crapware, because you think you need to use every gee-whiz feature that comes with a software library and IDE.
to clarify, that's of the *chemical* rockets
especially since oxygen is a component of the most powerful greenhouse gas on earth, water. And we can't model long term water content, too variable and complicated. We don't really know the contribution of carbon dioxide to the total greenhouse effect (amazing fact), estimated to be 9 to 32%. but the "climatogists" of course wail about the easier one to model.
no chemistry in you background, I take it. there are plenty of other gases that support combustion, fluorine is one. You could burn fluorine on your hydrocarbon atmosphere planet, or hydrocarbons on a fluorine atmosphere planet. You might be interested to know a rocket with highest specific impulse burns lithium and fluorine. You can make fire with many, many things and not have a molecule of oxygen in sight.
battery sounds fun but a match will do.
mozilla is making money off the users using their browser. if Mozilla wants to continue to have users, they better fucking well start to listen to them....
there are no problems when a company seriously tests and certifies all the softwares it uses to work together, to specify exact versions. A two year or longer cycle is more appropriate for a browser in mission critical / financial business environment. Such users don't need new features or eye candy to do their job.
that's pretty much what we did at the end of WW I, the unfair treatment of Germany at that time caused WW II.
they already can imprison you indefinitely or assassinate you or sexually molest you or your children "for cause", anything else being discussed is just icing on the cake for our police state
no, tell the teens to get a fucking job and pay for their internet and cell use. this will help them later in life. I started working at age ten with lawn cutting, show shoveling, car washing, etc. to fund my electronics hobby. Even the "allowance" my parents gave me was for check list of weekly jobs.
you are so funny. the fundamental purpose of the internet is to make money for its providers. Comcat, AT&T, Verizon, they don't make communications solutions or connectivity solutions, they make money. period. end of story.
Get a clue, pal. It takes at least 50% (and usually more like 100% on industrial scale) more energy to split water than you get back by burning the product gases. There are thus n no "water powered cars", just scams. And chumps and suckers who believe them, such as you.
There is "free energy" in the world, it comes from the Sun. The biosphere has been running off of it for billions of years. But until we perfect our biological engineering skills, we'll be needing more concentrated energy sources that cost money to build and to feed.
It isn't about the U.S., it's about mega-corporations and the western banking cartel. they already dominate the world, and have governments including the US in their pocket. You'll notice as we went from "conservative" to "more liberal" government in the USA that really the mega-corporate agenda is still being followed. The Left/Right Conservative/Liberal Democrat/Republican dichotomy is just a distraction for the masses.
no, more and more people are having a better life, life expectancy is getting longer. also, there is no shortage of resources in the world, and that which is "consumed" is still here, it does not fly off into space. get real.
most internet traffic is unnecessary fluff anyway, the penis and nigerian riches spam can all be put into that 99.99999%. I only detect the 0.00001 that's the Good Stuff: wank worthy porn, ebay for my tech gear, and slashdot.
You are making assertions without proof or knowledge. We DO know poison gases can linger in a very large area (square kilometers) hazardous to life.
I'll tell you exactly why we technical put down the majority of sales and marketing people. They are for the most part completely fungible and interchangeable people with no special skills or abilities other than schmoozing clients. However, there are a few who are really gifted that can create markets or drive sales. I do respect those people, without them the company withers and dies.
Might this instead just produce CO2 depletion zones, dangerous to plant life (and all that depends on plant life)? In any case, I would not trust any agenda-funded model of the "climatologists", the generate thousands of models and then cherry pick certain ones to fit what the weather is doing (not science, they are book cookers).
from my upbringing I can tell you that, if someone the biblical fundamentalist creationist likes has illness, it's "oh, God is testing his beloved servant!". If it's someone they don't like, it's "God has smitten that vile sinner!". Always, for themselves it's "God is testing me, to refine me like gold!'.