HURD is nowhere near anything that could be used in a production system, it is not stable and has very poor performance. just a toy for those that like to play with kernel ideas. that's not bad, but saying "watch out Linux or Watch out BSD" is just silly. HURD would need another five years of work if enough mind share could be gathered.
You are full of hot air, and prattle and blather on while utterly ignoring the truth that a jury trial costs the jurors and is a right that comes at their expense. Volumes of wrong words do not contradict the truth.
That's not how the New World Order works, citizen 1327877: get stung by engineered bee and Monsanto sues your ass for having their patented bee DNA stuck in your skin
in the pc world it can, y2k issues plague a lot of wares from 1980s and early 90s, some unique to older BIOS. Old wares were often tied to specific devices and specific disk layouts. A couple years ago for my employer I had to scavenge a 80486 with huge card cage together to run apps, proprietary POTS cards and a dongle under OS/2, hit all those issues and more, what fun and what a rush when it was finally running just like it was 1990.
naw, you are thinking of support for the old 6.2 and 7.3-2 on Alpha only, which HP say supported at least through end of 2012 (may go longer)
The current version 8.4 for both alpha and integrity just came out middle of last year, and though no end dates even announced yet, typical is 5 years support plus 5 more extended engineering support available.
My employer, a VAR, is still selling win 7 systems with Xp downgrade, to government (city, state, county) accounts. And they will do so for years, by contract.
those are actually short time intervals compared to the big iron, where you can run 30-40 year old OS and its apps under the current descendant system. Like 1974 MVS and its apps can run under Z/OS today. or run a late 60s DOS and apps under your Z/VSE. Or run your Burroughs MCP stuff from 1969 on a ClearPath mainframe today. You don't tell fortune 1000 companies or the banking system they have to throw away a twenty year old mission critical app, they'll bitch slap your face onto the nearest wall.
sounds nice in theory, but new machines won't have the ports and accept the IO cards old ones will. Some wares can't function with a clock rate that is too fast, or they require old type of hard drive.
Xubuntu 11.04 is ok, it's Ubuntu without the Unity suck. That should hold you for now while you plan your Ubuntu Great Escape. For me that's the extra hard drive I'm building up with a Debian xfce 6.01
because lawmakers can write down any meaningless standard they want, without regard to reality. because lawmakers obey those they fill their pockets (mega-corporate interests)
"Whim" is what constitutes the bulk of our economy and power usage. You don't *need* lighting, air conditioning, home computer, books, comfortable bed, etc. in the absolute sense. We're talking about the bulk of money being spent to make life "nice", including most consumer energy consumption (and at least a third of industrial). Don't need some goody-goody enamored with symbolism over substance to come along and tell me I *must* spend money for a light source that 25% of the time fails before it can pay for itself (perhaps negating any energy savings), has horrid colors, contains poisonous heavy metal, etc.
Let me buy what I *want*, and when the price of a good light source is *cheap*, and saves me money, I'll buy it all by myself without a bunch of corrupt evil ignorant dolts in the pocket of mega-corporations (our lawmakers) telling me what to do.
nope, you missed the point of the thermodynamics class, heat engines have efficiency determined by temperature differences. Air to air heat pump a waste of money below 30 degrees F (-1 C)
that's a lot of hot air. we're simply talking about what would contaminate a lot of water beyond limit set by EPA. Break a CFL in a tank of water and drink it all, let us know how that works out for you.
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HURD is nowhere near anything that could be used in a production system, it is not stable and has very poor performance. just a toy for those that like to play with kernel ideas. that's not bad, but saying "watch out Linux or Watch out BSD" is just silly. HURD would need another five years of work if enough mind share could be gathered.
no one died, but it was the raw agility that promoted me to queen
You are full of hot air, and prattle and blather on while utterly ignoring the truth that a jury trial costs the jurors and is a right that comes at their expense. Volumes of wrong words do not contradict the truth.
the Chinese have their own space program with various observatories on earth and launched, with more planned
what kind of geek are you? go realign their damn dish for them, you lazy git.
trial by jury
mind your drone beeswax
that's a-pollen to hear
That's not how the New World Order works, citizen 1327877: get stung by engineered bee and Monsanto sues your ass for having their patented bee DNA stuck in your skin
Comb on, let's swarm up our pun generators
in the pc world it can, y2k issues plague a lot of wares from 1980s and early 90s, some unique to older BIOS. Old wares were often tied to specific devices and specific disk layouts. A couple years ago for my employer I had to scavenge a 80486 with huge card cage together to run apps, proprietary POTS cards and a dongle under OS/2, hit all those issues and more, what fun and what a rush when it was finally running just like it was 1990.
naw, you are thinking of support for the old 6.2 and 7.3-2 on Alpha only, which HP say supported at least through end of 2012 (may go longer)
The current version 8.4 for both alpha and integrity just came out middle of last year, and though no end dates even announced yet, typical is 5 years support plus 5 more extended engineering support available.
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/pdf/openvms_roadmaps.pdf
(among other things, my employer requires me to be an Hp certified Integrity Application Integration Specialist (AIS), so we can sell the damn things)
My employer, a VAR, is still selling win 7 systems with Xp downgrade, to government (city, state, county) accounts. And they will do so for years, by contract.
2.4 had a nice long run though, I just looked at the change logs starting with 2.4.1 in Jan 31, 2001 until the last one in Dec 18 2010, 2.4.37.11
those are actually short time intervals compared to the big iron, where you can run 30-40 year old OS and its apps under the current descendant system. Like 1974 MVS and its apps can run under Z/OS today. or run a late 60s DOS and apps under your Z/VSE. Or run your Burroughs MCP stuff from 1969 on a ClearPath mainframe today. You don't tell fortune 1000 companies or the banking system they have to throw away a twenty year old mission critical app, they'll bitch slap your face onto the nearest wall.
sounds nice in theory, but new machines won't have the ports and accept the IO cards old ones will. Some wares can't function with a clock rate that is too fast, or they require old type of hard drive.
Hohoho. Your 1980s PC software will generally puke with Y2K issues now.
Xubuntu 11.04 is ok, it's Ubuntu without the Unity suck. That should hold you for now while you plan your Ubuntu Great Escape. For me that's the extra hard drive I'm building up with a Debian xfce 6.01
because lawmakers can write down any meaningless standard they want, without regard to reality. because lawmakers obey those they fill their pockets (mega-corporate interests)
"Whim" is what constitutes the bulk of our economy and power usage. You don't *need* lighting, air conditioning, home computer, books, comfortable bed, etc. in the absolute sense. We're talking about the bulk of money being spent to make life "nice", including most consumer energy consumption (and at least a third of industrial). Don't need some goody-goody enamored with symbolism over substance to come along and tell me I *must* spend money for a light source that 25% of the time fails before it can pay for itself (perhaps negating any energy savings), has horrid colors, contains poisonous heavy metal, etc.
Let me buy what I *want*, and when the price of a good light source is *cheap*, and saves me money, I'll buy it all by myself without a bunch of corrupt evil ignorant dolts in the pocket of mega-corporations (our lawmakers) telling me what to do.
nope, you missed the point of the thermodynamics class, heat engines have efficiency determined by temperature differences. Air to air heat pump a waste of money below 30 degrees F (-1 C)
sorry, efficiency plummets as temperature drops, you'll *waste* money using those at below 30 degrees F (-1 degrees C)
and they (EPA) have a web site for such things, you know
(monty python mumble to camera, "lazy git.....") 8D
that's a lot of hot air. we're simply talking about what would contaminate a lot of water beyond limit set by EPA. Break a CFL in a tank of water and drink it all, let us know how that works out for you.
Elemental, EPA limit is 0.002 milligrams per liter
the high end expensive CPUs are still increasing in power per core, Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 990x is 27,000 Dhrystone MIPS per core.